We Shouldn't Talk About Spinosaurus (But We're Going To Do It Anyway!)

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5 ай бұрын

I was warned that Spinosauridae is too controversial to discuss; to talk about Spinosaurus and its relatives is like walking into a hive of killer bees while dressed like a honey badger. Well, we're doing it anyway! Buckle up, it's fight time!
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@hamfranky 5 ай бұрын

A recent study has shown that spinosaurs venom is actually just a lethal dose of salt.

@ClintsReptiles 5 ай бұрын

It all makes sense!

@bigkirbyhj666 5 ай бұрын

Could be box jelly toxin.

@sperenox 5 ай бұрын

Idk if that’s a real paper but that sounds hilarious

@heyy13 5 ай бұрын

It's not, it's a joke about the who would win books. @@sperenox

@sperenox 5 ай бұрын

@@heyy13 ahh, Thank you! Still funny tho, but now I can get context

@Frog_Dogger 5 ай бұрын

The Spinosaurus' spines were actually in a helicopter blade orientation, which spun around and allowed the Spinosaurus to fly. It could hunt on land, sea and air. This paired with its venom made it the ultimate predator.

@CeeGeeFursuits 3 ай бұрын

I read a paper that said they would spit their venom while airborne to blind potential prey

@ThePyroSquirrel1 3 ай бұрын

Don’t forget they had a spine fin used like a rudder to control their direction in the air

@MikeS-um1nm 3 ай бұрын

Good one, but not as impossible as you may think. Are you familiar with the Bacterial Flagular motor (spelling?) Nature is smarter than we are. Dr. Richard Dawkins wrote about it.

@ruffstuff1069 3 ай бұрын

In addition a recent discovery shows that Spinosaurus had ejectable claws which it could fire at rapid speeds akin to a machine gun.

@ZAPRST8879 3 ай бұрын

felt like this is something japan would do like monster hunter

@DrSpooglemon 5 ай бұрын

"A damaged skull is better than a pocket full of teeth." ~ Clint Laidlaw

@grahamstrouse1165 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like something Raylan would say on “Justified.”

@okdude8215 3 ай бұрын

@@grahamstrouse1165 I still remember the next one's coming faster line to Duffy. 😅

@Ducatirati 2 ай бұрын

Not in a game of Aussie Rules, it's a bother playing on with yah teeth in a glass of milk after a look around the teeth are found , you skull, wrapped up with a bandage , not a good week coming up

@gelinrefira 5 ай бұрын

Spinosaurus is one of the best examples on how science works. Controversy is good, it means there are more things to find out. It means the field is a lively one.

@kyze8284 4 ай бұрын

It was so hard to explain to people that any science you can’t question is no longer science, because the first thing you do in science is question what already exists

@testerwulf3357 4 ай бұрын

@@kyze8284 This! It's not science anymore it's just fact..just how it is. If I said grass is grass, that isn't science..no one would congratulate me on my scientific statement..

@stevenkunkle3857 3 ай бұрын

You could have told the archeologists and their funders

@RealLifeIronMan 3 ай бұрын

In a way, the Bone Wars continue (just to a lesser extent)

@theundefeatedavatar1738 3 ай бұрын

@@testerwulf3357didn’t know grass was green amazing scientific discovery

@juggs4039 5 ай бұрын

New paleontologist: “It’s all baryonyx?….” Some veteran paleontologist with ptsd from decades of debate: “Always has been.”

@user-tl9tv1zc8c 4 ай бұрын

Agreeable

@carloschristanio4709 4 ай бұрын

I disagree

@YusufKaan-ti7fc 4 ай бұрын

bro theres still debate even bown here

@somegeese 4 ай бұрын

"Always has been -chukchuk-" is one of my favorite memes

@StudioMod 3 ай бұрын

Well, it's an evolutionary tendency toward water over millions of years, likely because of the surplus of food in water and the competition on land. Like many land animals that adapted toward the water later in their evolution (like whales), its body grew and its legs did not, fusing his hip inside the fleshy part of abdomen. These types of specializations are subject to convergent evolution.

@hulud 5 ай бұрын

The giddy way he encouraged everyone to argue pointlessly made me smile.

@Khyranleander 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely! The degree of saccharine sarcasm was absurdly surreal art. "Awesome, yet ANOTHER immaturely physical clash over a point two-year-olds wouldn't whine about? Let me get the popcorn before my esteemed colleagues get too far into it!"

@bhuggins6059 5 ай бұрын

Lol ya

@matthewdavies2057 5 ай бұрын

@@KhyranleanderIt's not all his fault. Spinosaurus is a touchy subject in dino science. Lots of fights have taken place on that topic. Lots of fights.

@cat_spit 5 ай бұрын

Spinosauridae makes educated professionals act like fifteen-year-olds in a videogame fandom fighting over which two fictional characters are in love. Something something human nature, I guess.

@lavatun 5 ай бұрын

Clint is an agent of tzeentch confirmed..

@sofiagaeta8268 5 ай бұрын

“Please keep you fighting as petty and pointless as possible” honestly, this is what biology teachers should ask to start chaos instead of “is water wet”

@xxhowisuxx 5 ай бұрын

Ask theoretical physicists to explain time and watch chaos ensue.

@wildflower1397 4 ай бұрын

Pluto is a planet. 😂

@Nick_Soup 4 ай бұрын

Ice is a mineral, which means water is lava, which means geysirs are vulcanos. I rest my case

@JohnJ469 4 ай бұрын

Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour?

@wildflower1397 4 ай бұрын

@@JohnJ469 A half hour is the whole thing for you?

@deutschlander85 5 ай бұрын

I'm sorry, but knowing that there is a dinosaur called "Irritator" is got to be one of the best random things I learned from Dinosaur December.

@D3m0-1n64Toz 3 ай бұрын

the only reason I know about him is because of the Jurassic world p2w mobile game.

@Shazm12 Ай бұрын

Same@@D3m0-1n64Toz

@Shazm12 Ай бұрын

@@D3m0-1n64Toz wait which one?

@gunner_melon445 Ай бұрын

It is now my new favorite dinosaur

@sakuraice22 Ай бұрын

@@gunner_melon445 It was found in Brazil and it annoyed the scientists so much they named it that, I love it

@drimachuck 5 ай бұрын

What a lovely video on spinosaurs! Unfortunate that all this info will probably be revised in like 2 weeks lol

@gingermcgingin4106 5 ай бұрын

Wonder if any betting parlers will take those odds

@bhuggins6059 5 ай бұрын

2 seconds

@sharkestry1119 5 ай бұрын

in 10 years spinosaurus will just be a big pelican with 1 wing (the sail) instead of what we think of today

@drimachuck 5 ай бұрын

@@sharkestry1119 taking notes

@feroxcorax8288 5 ай бұрын

Just a chance for more spinosaurus videos :D

@Flufux 5 ай бұрын

This video almost felt more like a mental breakdown than anything else.

@stickiedmin6508 5 ай бұрын

Frightening, dangerous, explosively emotional yet ultimately cathartic and freeing?

@a.j.crowley2280 5 ай бұрын

It makes more sense than that former coworker of mine who used to tell me stuff like dinosaurs lived in the Garden of Eden and nobody was a carnivore. I guess we know now why Spinosaurus has that long face full of teeth. All the better to pick fruit off the trees.

@martinmalicus3987 4 ай бұрын

And the repeated scenes from the Turkish parliament 😆

@cupsnake7996 4 ай бұрын

Honestly, that's what spinosaur research is like. The more digging you do, the more the entire field feels like scientists having a mental breakdown over the limited information we have on these damn things. They're SO cool, and we have JUST enough to keep everyone looking and discovering things... but not enough to settle the debates. So every time we DO discover something new, it spawns a dozen points to argue and raises more questions than it answers.

@4nn4h 3 ай бұрын

@@martinmalicus3987I was wondering where that clip was from. Nice to see parliaments in other countries get as wild as ours in South Africa.

@JustSomeGuywithEpicGrasses 4 ай бұрын

This is why Carnotaurus is still my favorite to this day. One pristine specimen. Epic horns. Tiny arms. Armored skin. No feathers. No quills. Just a genuinely epic beast.

@TheUndyingCrystal 4 ай бұрын

*slaps roof of Carno* This bad boy will eat your whole neighborhood

@Woopor 4 ай бұрын

The only way that feathers would be acceptable on Carno would be if they had massive peacock feathers on their stubby arms that swing back and forth for display

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD 4 ай бұрын

@@WooporI’m gonna draw that

@pantsuchan968 4 ай бұрын

@@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD Following so I can see this masterpiece

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD 4 ай бұрын

@@pantsuchan968 oh sh yeah I forgot

@vault1310 5 ай бұрын

“Discovered is a strong word” made me chuckle 🤭

@ClintsReptiles 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for watching this video. Please remember to keep your comments as petty and pointless as possible. These are spinosaurids, if we aren't here to fight, then what was the point?

@HassanMohamed-rm1cb 5 ай бұрын

Hey Clint Laidlaw, Why don't you get to think of a suggestion and creating a KZfaq Videos all about the🦅🦉Birds Of Prey Group🦅🦉(Raptors) on the next Clint's Reptiles on the next Saturday coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍

@ayserheimmerXD 5 ай бұрын

pls do the the family of alvezsauridae(they are dinosaurs)

@Kevintherhea188 5 ай бұрын

i belive spinosaurus was a large species of tentecaled, 10-legged solenodon that lived above the stratosphere and went extinct because a wild Dāv Kaufman fell right into there population.

@Kevintherhea188 5 ай бұрын

hey clint, i noticed at 10:35 you spelled "baryonyx" as "baryonix"

@pallavijoshi4865 5 ай бұрын

Almost as funny as spinofaarus

@PaleoAnalysis 5 ай бұрын

0:51 Yep... That was me... I warned him. 👀🤚

@kyokyodisaster4842 5 ай бұрын

I mean, few biologists would believe the sheer amount of petty fighting over a single clade of theropods, but due to history and fragile bones we are left with endless hearsay and speculation / Specula!

@4nn4h 3 ай бұрын

@@kyokyodisaster4842taxonomy fights can be absolutely brutal. I've seen friendships end over disagreements among botanists, and that's when we have living specimens available!

@Indarow 5 ай бұрын

“Please keep your fighting as petty and pointless as possible down in the comments.” You really are the best Clint.

@tofuteh2348 5 ай бұрын

I will never understand people who are upset that Spino isn't like the Jurassic Park 3 version. What we have now is so unique and beautiful, like a therapod leviathan!

@AngelEmfrbl 4 ай бұрын

Because they want a monster instead of a unique water dragon. Its from the group of people who want everything to be like Jurassic Park.

@devitt89 4 ай бұрын

Planet Dinosaur's representation is my favorite, sure it's closer to the JP3 spino, but i still love it for what it is. However, I do prefer the current spinosaurus over the JP3 one.

@TamagoSenshi 4 ай бұрын

I'll always fondly remember someone in my class saying "At least, Spinosaurus didn't have feathers" and just being like "...Oh..."

@sawomirpastor7140 4 ай бұрын

I always thought that spino from jw3 just looked that way because they used Trex genome to fill the missing parts in spino. Like in that time we thought spino looked like on jw3 so in that world it would be logical

@AngelEmfrbl 4 ай бұрын

@@sawomirpastor7140 no one knew what Spino looked like and it was presumed it would look like most Therapods, or the only real Spino-relative they had at the time. Basically, they wanted to use the only other relative we knew relatively how it looked and went with that. But the dinosaur they based it upon is in another branch of the Spino-family tree. So they were off by a lot. Edit: Saying that, remember back then we didn't have much to work with. The Spino family is sparce at best.

@Lauresaurus96 5 ай бұрын

You could almost make this a yearly tradition. It’ll need a whole new phylogeny by next year.

@maryeckel9682 5 ай бұрын

The Year In Spinosaurids

@neasulavuori4955 4 ай бұрын

y e s

@Edhelistar 4 ай бұрын

The more contested the better!

@xoan2107 4 ай бұрын

Weekly*

@YogoBites 4 ай бұрын

Forget birthdays, we can have birth spinosaurus’ “Oh you were born in bipedal spinosaur? Well you’ve aged like wine!”

@MaskOfAbyss 5 ай бұрын

The "even if the name is dumb" was 100% coming from the pure honesty of an inner child 😂

@Dinoman-mo7mt 4 ай бұрын

He forgot to mention with the exception of Trex. It was named something else first though I do not remember what and since everyone knew Trex but not the other name they made an exception if I remember correctly

@elisabethbyrne5024 3 ай бұрын

Look no further than Basilosaurus "King lizard" which is a WHALE and a MAMMAL and NOT reptile but even if stupidly inaccurate the older name stays which is RIDICULOUS

@Rystefn Ай бұрын

@@Dinoman-mo7mt There are a handful of exceptions. It's totally a thing that occasionally, they really do just go "yeah, no" and call it what they want instead of following the rule.

@TimeyWimey. 4 ай бұрын

Spinosaurids are like the abstract paintings of the dinosaur world.

@spawnofapathy 5 ай бұрын

The pure amount of salt and shade in this video really made me laugh so many times. 😂 I just love the sense of humor this channel has.

@Genzafel 3 ай бұрын

that moment of the salt, won me as a subscriber

@GaryDunion 5 ай бұрын

I would like to say in the defence of Ceratosuchops that while the name of the genus is not particularly inspired, the type species name is Inferidios, which means THE HELL HERON. (I used to teach field science on the south coast of England, including briefly on the Isle of Wight where Riparovenator and Ceratosuchops were found!)

@eliscanfield3913 5 ай бұрын

Hell Heron! Nay, must be the Hell Crane! ;)

@williamcozart8158 5 ай бұрын

@@eliscanfield3913 Hell buzzard...no actually not that not that....Hellstork....

@eliscanfield3913 5 ай бұрын

@@williamcozart8158 Stork maybe, but buzzards don't resemble the others at all!

@znail4675 5 ай бұрын

@@williamcozart8158 Azhdarchids kind of own that description already.

@Wolfie54545 5 ай бұрын

Irritator challengeri has entered the chat

@PaleoGeek 5 ай бұрын

Excellent and very in-depth video! Also 25:19 thanks for featuring and crediting a bunch of my Wikipedia artwork! Makes me happy seeing my illustrations used to educate peeps on these wonderful critters I'm super fond of! :)

@eyetooth 5 ай бұрын

Your art makes me feel so excited about these dinos! I love how current-day paleo artists seem to take more inspiration from the patterning/colouring of living animals in their illustrations. I feel like paleo art has come such a long way in terms of how "life-like" depictions of these creatures have become, and that's so cool to see 😄

@stickiedmin6508 5 ай бұрын

I've gotta say, the guy at 30:14 kinda looks like it could be in some ancient, paleontological glossy magazine ad for fancy whiskey, or super expensive cigars - you know, the kind where there's a chiselled, insultingly handsome and immaculately groomed dude (or dinosaur) relaxing on his yacht, or leaning against a Ferrari at sunset, giving the camera a bit of side-eye with a little smirk that's _juuusst_ smug enough to say, "Don't you wish you were as smooth as me? Buy absurdly expensive whiskey!"

@PaleoGeek 5 ай бұрын

@@eyetooth Thank you so much! I'm definitely super happy with the colour patterns I ended up with. I worked closely with a friend of mine who is a zookeeper and conservationist and he provided loads of great references of modern animals with interesting patterning that I took inspiration from. Was fun giving each spinosaurid a unique and vibrant yet plausible look. 😁

@rowanmarlow7402 4 ай бұрын

I love how your friend was like "Don't get involved" and you went "How can i stir the pot a little more? I know, i'll throw shade at the whole group for their naming choices" and i respect you for this.

@varicosevaynes 5 ай бұрын

Spinosauridae will always be my favorite family of theropods. The crocodilian snout and even the sail found in spinosaurus itself and also ichthyovenator, just everything about them is so majestic and mysterious.

@MoltenPoo 5 ай бұрын

The salt references and repeated nods to the "Who Would Win" books had me laughing out loud. You are a brilliant science communicator, brother Happy and healthy new year to you.

@bhuggins6059 5 ай бұрын

The refrences are in fact very salt

@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural 5 ай бұрын

This is why I respect Clint regarding biology.

@tomcross3000 5 ай бұрын

spinosaurus was a land and water killing machine! i know coz i saw a recent documentary, i think its called jurassic park 3, i'll need to check tho

@bhuggins6059 2 ай бұрын

@@tomcross3000 and it can kill t. rex! 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

@tomcross3000 2 ай бұрын

@@bhuggins6059 YeaH FuLly! 😂my 2009 prehIStoRiC batTlE sHOw litrely sayz so!

@brandonblackwood3680 5 ай бұрын

I know it's highly unlikely, but I've always liked the idea that the reason why we have two or more seemingly identical species, minus a few features, is because we're looking at some sexual dimorphism. Sigilmasasaurus and Spinosaurus could be just male and females of the same species. Like I said I know it's unlikely but I've always liked the idea

@thatguywesmaranan 5 ай бұрын

that's actually a pretty cool hypothesis, man... thank you!!!

@tgr3423 4 ай бұрын

Imagine what a mind-shattering revelation this must be if we somehow verify its authenticity

@omarbriseno4584 4 ай бұрын

mind blown

@noctusowl 4 ай бұрын

Or it could be two chrono species. with age reading errors half a million to 2 millions margin could span huge morphologic differences. I mean, look how different we are from hominid specimens from 200k to 500k years ago, even more 1 to 2 million years ago.

@mariawhite7337 4 ай бұрын

There is also a huge debate werevwe need to start thinking some smaller species are actually just babies of another.

@despero6630 5 ай бұрын

I love Clint's gradual decent into madness trying to discuss this phylogeny

@germanscience7246 4 ай бұрын

2 days later: "Turns out it had webbed fingers!" *sound of paleotologists smashing tables*

@katierose8035 5 ай бұрын

My mum is a paleontologist and she studied the irritator! Awesome to see it in a video!!

@amandareeves5101 5 ай бұрын

Wow! You are one lucky person to have family that takes on the best yet most controversial science!

@orthiaclamedesang1797 5 ай бұрын

Is it hard to do paleontology with boxing gloves ?

@stickiedmin6508 5 ай бұрын

@@orthiaclamedesang1797 I expect it's *_really_* irritating...

@fenekku.kitsune 5 ай бұрын

I'm so jealous I wish I had a paleontologist mom

@varanid9 5 ай бұрын

Sorry, but studying her own husband doesn't count.

@user-lq4ct6dr5m 5 ай бұрын

Man I like the face Clint went into this topic as like thinking " How hard could it be ?" And the suffering and confusion on his face becomes visible when he just hit the Baryonychinae The Spino family confusing a dino lover successfully once again Edit: Clint skipped the most funny fact and relatable fact about Irritator, its species name for the type fossil Irritator Challengeri, the scientist who named the fossil really channeled all of his frustration onto the name

@Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken 5 ай бұрын

best name

@ConairHockey 4 ай бұрын

I love knowing my spinosaurus tattoo will one day be proven incorrect. The spinosaurus and the rest of Spinosauridae are the gifts that keep on giving.

@avrilrowland1913 3 ай бұрын

Get a new revised tattoo under the first one every time the facts are updated.

@Not_Fish 5 ай бұрын

Got this in my recommended, the Spino family contains most of my top five favorite prehistoric creatures, and I’m so glad someone is finally talking about how confusing it’s family can be! I’m currently looking to become a Paleontologist, and this video just made my night, thank you!

@lamborn3D 5 ай бұрын

Clint should play Ark: Survival Evolved and react to the scientific accuracy of the various prehistoric creatures featured in it in between fleeing from them in terror. I want to see both of these things.

@cookie856 5 ай бұрын

I want to see his reaction when he comes too close to the tickle chicken now XD

@theflyingdutchguy9870 5 ай бұрын

altho ark isnt aiming for accuracy at all. i would also love to see this

@lamborn3D 5 ай бұрын

@@theflyingdutchguy9870 that's part of the reason I want to see it, haha. Him talking about the spinosaurus possibly being quadrapedal is what made me think of it though. With Ark having the quadrapedal and bipedal "modes" for the spinosaurus.

@theflyingdutchguy9870 5 ай бұрын

@@lamborn3D thats interesting. i didnt know that. havent payed attention to ark for years.

@Firestar-TV 5 ай бұрын

I want to see him play Prehistoric Kingdom 😃 It's still in Early Access though and will probably take a few more Years to be finished. Also got Spinosaurus in the newest Update 😃 Really appreciate that they always try to make their Animals as accurate as possible (which is also one of the Reasons that the Developement takes that long)

@SeriousWizard 5 ай бұрын

YOU DID IT!!! My favorite family of dinosaurs! Spinosaurus specifically is my number one favorite! Not just because it could be the longest theropod or how it looks, but the HISTORY behind it. Those grueling hours of meticulous note-taking upon its discovery and repairs it underwent after its messy delivery to Berlin. It's a testimate to Dr. Stromer's dedication to his work and magnifies the tragedy of its destruction during WWII. Thank you so much for your work on this video!!

@justicierodelaliga 5 ай бұрын

Another great person with an EXCELLENT taste!

@May-or-May-not 5 ай бұрын

To be honest, spinosaurus is one of my favorite dinosaurs and hearing this absolute mess is just making me love them more. Go, chaos gremlins, go!

@TheRussian13 Ай бұрын

I like that Clint went with education over opinions with this video. I personally refuse to believe anyone that discourages the pursuit of knowledge to be a subject matter expert. It's so disappointing to see scientists telling people to not teach, learn or discuss something like spinosaurus due to the controversy since its discovery. The more people study and discuss topics, the more we all learn. Thank you Clint for doing the right thing for science.

@shawnstegall665 5 ай бұрын

As someone whose favorite dinosaur is Spinosaurus I wish they were spoken about more. Their completely unique appearance and mystery surrounding their origin and family tree is so interesting. I’m excited to see what more the community discovers about them.

@ridleyroid9060 5 ай бұрын

"I wish they were spoken about more" I know what you mean but trust me he occupies every paleontologists head rent free 365 days a year. The spinosaur saga truly is the best ongoing series of our time.

@sampagano205 5 ай бұрын

Angaturama has extreme "this is just a full grown irritator" vibes.

@Hank39 9 күн бұрын

Which is funny, because Angaturama is the one being invalidated, not Irritator, makes no sense when you think about it

@ukan1527 5 ай бұрын

What a fantastic last video of the year! Spinosaurids are as interesting as they are infuriating as a group, they're just awesome! A couple of things I want to point out, however: - At 16:13 you mention how older scientific names always take priority, which isn't always the case. Tyrannosaurus rex is a very good example of this; if the older names always take priority we should all be calling this animal either Dynamosaurus imperiosus or Manospondylus gigas, however they are considered nomen oblitum ("forgotten" names), while Tyrannosaurus rex is a nomen protectum (a "protected", preferred name). Not arguing that you're wrong, just pointing out an interesting exception to the rule. - More of a personal opinion thing than a note, but while I do agree spinosaurid genus names tend to be very bland and uninspired in terms of meaning they are nonetheless one of the groups of dinosaurs with the most consistently pleasant or cool sounding names if we disregard etymology for a moment. Sigilmassasaurus, Icthyovenator and Cristatusaurus are all great examples of this. Again, might be just me and my opinion but then again, isn't discussing spinosaurids in general mostly opinion-based anyway? Cheers to a new year, may we have a 2024 of as many new spinosaurid discoveries as new mysteries shrouding them them are sure to follow!

@WhisperdaleD 5 ай бұрын

Spinosaurids are my favorite dinosaurs and I'm so hyped to see you cover the clusterfuck they are. Every single time I see a big video on them, something has been discovered or disproven to make it completely different from the last iteration I saw. It's great! I can't wait to see what we think it looked like (for real this time) in like ten years!

@dougjacobson8736 5 ай бұрын

Did love people complaining that new research showing Spinosaurus couldn't swim (because their bones are too dense) makes them less impressive… Not realizing that Hippos can’t swim but move fast in bodies of water and still kill hundreds of people In a year. I now think of them as giant carnivorous hippo crocodiles….

@AngelEmfrbl 4 ай бұрын

Those who say its too heavy.... ...Tell them... ....Blue Whales.

@theapexsurvivor9538 2 ай бұрын

I mean, if the spines were humps not sailed, they might actually have been incredibly buoyant, thus making them way more terrifying by being hippo crocodiles that CAN swim...

@AngelEmfrbl 2 ай бұрын

@@theapexsurvivor9538 The other issue is, they would have not just the size, but blk and weight behind them like a hippo. That would make them more scary as the hippo is more dangerous then a lion

@ZwrP 5 ай бұрын

love all the comedy in this video and so much shade thrown at spino researchers lol.

@raminagrobis6112 5 ай бұрын

Not only his contagious enthusiasm is remarkable, but also his ability to repeatedly pronounce long complex generic names, often in rapid succession and impeccably. This guy has the professor gene and is highly brilliant.

@aidanjames1988 4 ай бұрын

Spinosaurids are in my list of favourite dinosaurs, so I'm glad you made this video! Also, I did not know about all these other spinosaurids, I only knew five!

@supportiveduck 5 ай бұрын

I’m always looking forward to a new dinosaur phylogeny video from you, these videos are amazing and it’s hard to find good info like this in such a well put and fun to understand way

@ben2184 5 ай бұрын

Yeeesssss my absolute FAVORITE group of dinosaurs

@ArchJ17 5 ай бұрын

Very happy to learn that my favorite dinosaur family is also the bane of most archaeologists. I wouldn’t ask you to commit to something as cursed as this but I’d love to see yearly check ins with the more uncertain phylums to see how much they shift.

@Ayrtonium 4 ай бұрын

You’re such a joy to watch! Please keep making whatever videos you want to, whatever it takes for us to keep seeing you happy and passionate and smiling! Hope you’re having a good start to the year

@GraupeLie 5 ай бұрын

I usually watched your stuff about reptiles and other animals living today, but man, did you just reawake my inner dino-freak. Wanted to become a "dino digger" when I was a kid, and your giddy nerdiness is just making me so, so happy right now...I'm in full dino mode now!

@Steaphany 5 ай бұрын

Clint, Dinosaurs have/had a sense of humor. I once knew a Macaw who would greet people with the phrase "Rub my head" and when someone reached out to comply, the Macaw would chomp that hand or finger followed by saying "Bad Bird" I have a Quaker who earned the name Tickels. Tickels will say "Tickels" and if anyone reaches out to the bird, Tickels will chomp the finger. The bird loves pulling this joke on people. So, in the original Jurassic Park movie, when the T-Rex knocks down the building and eats the cowering Layer, that was right out of a dino joke book.

@Grinnar 4 ай бұрын

Fun fact about Jurassic Park/World, the geneticists do a lot of guess work, and gene splicing. So what they have are actually a weird chimera that looks and behaves what we think, but have very strange DNA. Not true clones, as we would understand it by other media.

@spoopertrooper2726 2 ай бұрын

I will never be tired of the fact that there is a dinosaur named Irritator, and it is in a family of dinosaurs that causes so many headaches for paleontologists-

@rondahiller8541 5 ай бұрын

Forget the salt, if Clint threw any more shade, there'd be an eclipse... Kudos for taking this on

@Shard113 5 ай бұрын

Could we just take a moment to also acknowledge that there is a Daemonosaurus (in the evolutionary tree that is at 1:40) and it was about a size of a dog? A tiny friend with a mean name.

@svennoren9047 5 ай бұрын

Have you ever met a chihuahua?

@WinterFrostDragon1347 5 ай бұрын

Daemonosaurus, perfect name for a Chihuahua. 🤣

@Damoinion Ай бұрын

I feel you could write a book on Spinosauridae in the style of Dr. Suess. "This one was quite small but it's sail was tall, This one had a sail so small, Is it a Spinosaur or a Baryonyx after all? Theropods all both large and small, They all have there various tricks, But where o where do we place Vallibonavenatrix?" Edit: I may come back and work on this a bit if enough people find it fun.

@benjammin3381 5 ай бұрын

I just gotta say. You have a absolute way of making these dino facts videos fun and exciting, and easy to understand. I usually struggle to sit through anything that isnt 15min or less but i didnt even notice 38min fly by like nothing. Happy new years!

@nancyreid8729 5 ай бұрын

I really appreciate your poetry this morning; it felt like you were channeling your inner Dr Seuss!

@jernada6794 5 ай бұрын

That hint of maddness, encouraging your viewers to spread academia in fighting is amazing. Heated spino arguments warm my heart.

@dantheman2907 4 ай бұрын

"please keep your arguments as petty and pointless as possible" this is only the second video I've seen from this channel and I'm in love with it!

@lancehayes9983 5 ай бұрын

Next shirt should be "a damaged skull is a heck of a lot better than a pocket full of teeth."

@turbotreehouse9780 5 ай бұрын

Manospondylus gigas was the original name for T. rex. I think we'd have to do the same thing for the sucho. Suchomimus is just a cooler name and its become so popular under that name. We can protect it!!! nomen protectum (plural nomina conservanda) (taxonomy) A name that has been protected by the International Commission for Zoological Nomenclature and is valid to be used although it is known it does not comply with the requirements of the International Code for Zoological Nomenclature

@aharttsx8019 5 ай бұрын

was looking for this comment!

@Dinoman-mo7mt 4 ай бұрын

@@aharttsx8019so was I

@sophiejones3554 22 күн бұрын

Ok, but M. gigas got trashed not because it wasn't cool enough but because it sounds dirty. You need a better reason for a nomen protectum than "it's cooler". Suchomimus could get put onto Siamasaurus, because in addition to being dumb that name is just a bit cringe. Or Spinosauridae could get renamed Suchomimidae, since it would be a better description of the clade's distinctive feature. They're all croc mimics, not just that genus.

@stacypalermo3506 5 ай бұрын

This was a great video on Spinosaurus! ❤ I think you did a great job on presenting what is “known” as well as the different sides to the different arguments. The way you presented the information really helped understand the full picture of how disarrayed the Spinosaurus family is. It’s what you would see if the National Lampoon’s Family did Paleontology; which would be another great movie for their collection 😂 Like Tommy Lee Jones’ character, K, said on MIB, “ thousand years ago, everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, they knew the Earth was flat. Fifteen minutes ago, you knew we humans were alone on it. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.” 🦖🦕

@teresaellis7062 4 ай бұрын

Clint is just the best. His enthusiasm always brings a smile to my face.

@dinobanan3211 Ай бұрын

5 minutes and I can't even count how many "I've made a video about it" pop-ups came up. That is one extensive back-log.

@johnsimon2988 5 ай бұрын

With a nasal cavity halfway up the jaw, perhaps an ambush hunter?

@randomshiver 5 ай бұрын

Love all the 🧂! The problem with spinosaurus is not that uncommon with figuring out when a new dinosaur has been discovered in general: is this a new piece of a puzzle we've already started or a new puzzle all together. I love the new T-shirt design. Happy Dino December to me! 🧩

@junkyporpoise4254 4 ай бұрын

I’ve never seen someone talk about the Spinosaurus in such a giddy, enthusiastic manner. And I’m all for it

@polinibolini6207 4 ай бұрын

As someone who has never been particularly interested in dinosaurs, your energy is infectious! I love these niche headache causing debates in highly specialized fields, I understand nothing but they sure are entertaining.

@hiddentruth1982 5 ай бұрын

I would say that long claw would be for gutting prey since their jaw is not made for crushing. They would need another way to kill prey since holding on isn't really and option. It would be logical that they would use claws to help end things quickly, even with fish.

@leahcimwerdna5209 5 ай бұрын

Or even just holding slippery prey, I legit use thumb forefinger and middle to hold things and use the ring and pinky as feelers in case it slips, unless it really heavy then all 5 are engaged

@everettduncan7543 5 ай бұрын

They could have used the back of the dentary and maxillary sets of teeth to hold, and the claws to disembowel.

@sampagano205 5 ай бұрын

That seems unlikely just because they have adaptations that specifically help to swallow their prey whole. The whole pelican mouth thing they discovered earlier this year. Fighting between males is probably the best candidate to my mind.

@hiddentruth1982 5 ай бұрын

@@sampagano205 I hadn't heard anything about that.

@dracocrusher 5 ай бұрын

I'm not so sure. It already has venom and the extended jaw/neck to reach things with, it wouldn't make sense for it to also cut things apart with its arms. I have an alternate idea. What if the claws are used to spar against rival males? Two Spinosaurs could walk up, size up eachother's sails, and then if they don't back down then they could potentially rear up to look bigger before swiping at eachother with the claws. We know modern birds can have pretty elaborate mating rituals, and it wouldn't make sense for animals to poison eachother in a sparring match because of how dangerous that tends to be. So maybe this is an evolutionary way for them to stay territorial and fight other males while also being less likely to outright kill eachother? It would also lessen the chance of damaging their skulls and teeth, which are more necessary for hunting. As for the actual hunts, I'm imagining them being more like a mix of crocodile and wading bird, gently floating along until it's time to duck their head underwater. It's weird, but that does make a lot of sense to me. If the venom thing is real then that could help them get around not having something like a Death Roll to kill prey. It's hard to really 'death roll' when you have a big back sail, right?

@ChipsDaCat 5 ай бұрын

As a devoted Spinosaur fan, I love all the discoveries about them! I started when I first watched Jurassic Park 3 (Which is still one of my favorite movies). I eventually watched some documentaries, and was amazed on how different it was from other dinosaurs! I am DEFINITELY not one of the people who say “tHiS iS rUiNiNg DiNoSaUrS!!!1!” The modern Spinosaurus reconstructions really show just how different dinosaurs can be. I will always be open to new discoveries, and will always be a Spinosaurus fan. (Also I don’t care if spino loses against T. rex, it’s a fight that is biased)

@maryeckel9682 5 ай бұрын

Pull T rex into the water and see how he does

@JTScottOfficial 5 ай бұрын

@maryeckel9682 Hey didn't you know a Spino can snap a TRexs neck? It's in that Documentary about that park that had dinosaurs.

@_-DZ-_ 5 ай бұрын

Spino beats Trex it has been proven

@philbattiste9649 4 ай бұрын

In the words of Alan Grant, the dinosaurs of Jurassic Park were genetically modified, theme park monsters. But that never meant these creatures couldn't capture our imaginations. Dinosaurs have reached an incredible point in human culture that they can be studied as real animals, and mythologized as reptilian monsters, and captivate audiences either way.

@4nn4h 3 ай бұрын

Let's see either of 'em win against the ultimate lifeform, the microbe. For the purposes of this fight, I would like viruses to be included as microbes, despite their contested status as "lifeforms".

@nilsg.nelson-molin1170 4 ай бұрын

You have to xposed the lunacy of us humans. You have kept my rapt interest through the entire talk, and I have LAUGHED OUT LOUD several times. Without even noticing, I feel certain I will retain a solid comprehension of this entire mysterious & confusing group. So poignant a yearning to know, to understand. Thank you so much; you are helping create a generation of very curious people!

@kezia8027 Ай бұрын

Clint you are an absolute delight, and your unbridled passion, enthusiasm, and zest for life truly bring me so much joy. Thank you for sharing this with the world.

@SilverScarletSpider 5 ай бұрын

15:02 i was laughing while watching clint get heated over dinosaur names lol

@lucas10104 5 ай бұрын

Hi Clint! I’m only 7.5 minutes in so far but I’m very much enjoying it, and it even made me learn something about something that wasn’t even a spinosaurid. You showed a dilophosaurus skeleton to compare the conical teeth of a spinosaurus with, which made me go looking into a dilophosaurus diet. This is because I used to work at a state park with footprints we commonly attributed to something dilophosaurus-like, so we learned a lot about them. I’d always heard that they were likely fish eaters, because of the same spoon-like jaw morphology you mention in reference to spinosaurids at 7:30. So why the knife-like teeth? At least according to the minor rabbit hole I went down, they apparently had a fairly reinforced skull, actually, and a pretty strong bite, similar to crocodilians. Some even suggest they attacked prosauropods and might have been the apex predator of their environment. Which is news to me, and fascinating! So thanks! Now for the rest of the video. And if you’re looking for a video idea, Dilophosaurus is right there…

@Wolfie54545 5 ай бұрын

Baryonyx and most of that subfamily also has curved, more knife like teeth as opposed to the cone shaped straight teeth like Spinosaurus.

@xxhowisuxx 5 ай бұрын

Every dino was forced to be as big as possible with as many sharp teeth as could fit into their mouth. Or if they didnt have sharp teeth they bad to be massive. Or if they werent massive they had spikes or armor. Nature was having a bad day and wanted to watch chaos for a while

@howardhavardramberg7160 4 ай бұрын

Spinos have always been my all time fave dino ❤

@brenorocha6687 5 ай бұрын

"Older names ALWAYS have priority!" Well, we already had an exception for Scrotum humanum, so maybe there's hope.

@klausroxin4437 Ай бұрын

We also had an exeption for Manospondylus gigas.

@ravenwolf7128 5 ай бұрын

OK, this is the BEST phylogeny vid yet--absolute joy.♥

@user-tl9tv1zc8c 5 ай бұрын

In a nutshell Everything is absolute nightmare fuel to talk about Spinosauridae

@thomasmilburn199 4 ай бұрын

Man I'm just now finding your page and I must say I really enjoy the way you present your videos. Very fun to watch!! Keep up the good work.

@sentenced03 5 ай бұрын

I relate to this clade so much on a personal level because i too am confusing and a mess.

@nanuqo2006 5 ай бұрын

They gotta bust out Nomen Protectum to save Suchomimus from becoming Cristatusaurus and Baryonyx from becoming Suchosaurus

@robertjames8183 5 ай бұрын

THIS IS THE ONE IVE BEEN WAITING FOR! FAKE paleo fans love to say "look how science massacred spinosaurus." REAL spinosaurus enthusiasts know that he's way cooler now that he's a flat-tailed, wading, piscivorous, "croc-mouthed," theropod with an M-shaped sail than he ever was as a generic T-Rex clone theropod with a sail. They'll probably always be my favorite dinosaur and the only reason I'd never get a tattoo of one is because it would be scientifically inaccurate in a year's time. Thanks for the excellent videos, as always, Clint!

@davidcarlsson5952 4 ай бұрын

Spinosaurus has always been one of my favorites. And after watching this I love it even more hahahaha. This was so fun to watch!

@tomcross3000 5 ай бұрын

you are gorgeous and i love your new silver hairs. some days i just really appreciate your vids more than others to energise me. this is one such moment. my good friend's dog died, he was almost 14 and a loveable butter-beagle. so i'm in a delicate place and needed your help. thankyou for giving it :)

@Blaize24 5 ай бұрын

This one is so much fun and your giddy delight at the lack of firm knowledge and the required arguments was a joy to behold. I've been giggling out loud the entire time. Thank you.

@madisonjacques8507 5 ай бұрын

Edit: You pretty much answered my question later in the video 😂 I noticed that the shape of Spinosaurus was also unusual in that some of the teeth in the upper jaw were very small and the bone almost appeared curved so it could fit tightly with the front of the lower jaw (which also seemed curved in the opposite direction). Was this because of its semi-aquatic nature or for some other reason?

@aeriththemagnificent7711 5 ай бұрын

Clint, I’ve been following u the last month, recently discovered you, you have a freakishly calming voice to listen too, I rly enjoy your topics and videos, thank you and I wish you and your family a wonderfull newyear, greatings from Finland ! ^^ Edit: rad fan on patrion now 💪🏻 thank you and I hope I can enjoy your educations for a long time

@brenorocha6687 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for covering such topic. Science communicators usually give lay people the impression that science is knowledgeable about everything and that's it mostly sure about most things. This video is very informative about how science happens and how it proceeds when information is scarce. And I had no idea we knew about so many (or not) species of Spinosaurids, because every channel who talked about Spinosaurids only discussed if Spinosaurus could float or not, bipedal or quadrupedal, etc etc.

@glorygloryholeallelujah 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for another fantastic DinoCember and for the wonderful content you make for us all year long! I hope that everyone has a happy/safe weekend -and we will meet back here again next year!!❤

@blainestevens6701 5 ай бұрын

I just tamed a Spinosaurus in Ark. Manages to keep up with my two Rexes. I’m a happy camper. Always surprised how many prehistoric animals and dinosaurs they packed into this game.

@crowdemon_archives 5 ай бұрын

Spinosaurus surprisingly do very well in water in Ark lol Like, you can dive with them (within limits)!

@IMADINOSAURNOTABIRD 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, but the craziest part is just how creative ark is with it. The prehistoric creatures are extremely unique and pretty much just genetically engineered monsters with insane, super out there designs, abilities, and behaviors. AND they still add awesome lore mixed with so many cool fantasy creatures.

@snuzzlebumble 5 ай бұрын

The crazy thing is that in the same time and place, Spinosaurus shared its habitat with so many different enormous carnivores. Isn't that extremely rare?

@DoomMomDot 4 ай бұрын

I would guess its because Spinosaurus mostly ate fish and other sea creatures, where the other carnivores were land predators so it would be a case of "you do you"

@MadameCorgi 4 ай бұрын

Like lions living near nile crocodiles

@grahamstrouse1165 4 ай бұрын

@@MadameCorgiNot really, because lions can (mostly) avoid crocs, thus allowing for a fair amount of niche partioning. Spinosaurus, on the other hand, was just a wader. It couldn’t swim, which means it would have had to coexist with Carcharodontosaurus. This makes its weirder, more awkward body models a lot less plausible. It would have simply become another food source.

@lilbasenji1 5 ай бұрын

I am so glad that you made this video. I love love love Spinosaurus and not a lot is said about it aside from what happened in Jurassic Park. But no one talks about how the first fossils were destroyed in WWII. Or how irritator got its name or how many other spinosauridae species there are.

@radg3ar456 5 ай бұрын

Clint, thank you for your passion in creating these videos. You are one of the most enthusiastic and easy-to-follow educators I’ve encountered, and your students are privileged to have you. It’s always a treat getting a notification from the channel🎉

@garchompy_1561 5 ай бұрын

funny correction - the older name does not *always* take priority as seen at the very dawn of dinosaur naming with Megalosaurus originally being named "Scrotum humanum", and it was thrown out as it wasnt deemed an official name despite being used in a scientific paper as a scientific name, and I suspect after realising that it was a big reptile, no one in victorian socieety really wanted to call it that anyway lmao. I want to say it also happened with a sauropod or tyrannosaur later in the fields history because the name was made so much more popular everyone already knew it and no one knew the older name, but the species escapes me right now. might have been diplodicus? might have been one of the phases of the "brontosaurus" species naming mess? couldve been tyrannosaurus rex itsself? maybe something else, not sure. Thankfully that sort of thing is generally ironed out nowadays and the older one does take priority, though given the state of this family, I wouldnt be surprised if that ends up going out of the window again if someone ends up trying to absorb one well known spinosaur group in to another and makes people on the internet upset... anyway

@matyaskassay4346 5 ай бұрын

to be fair it's not really known whether Scrotum humanum was actually a name given to the fossil or just a faulty description of the illustration in the paper. Also, there was no official way of giving fossils scientific names back then, as many naturalists still held the religious view that animals can't go extinct and therefore all fossils have to come from existing creatures.

@VelaiciaCreator 5 ай бұрын

@@matyaskassay4346 Were they blind to the Dodo?

@reiangossling6395 5 ай бұрын

@@VelaiciaCreatorPeople didn't believe that the dodo was extinct until the 19th century, so there were indeed scientists that thought it wasn't extinct.

@VelaiciaCreator 5 ай бұрын

@@reiangossling6395 Oof.

@VelaiciaCreator 5 ай бұрын

@@reiangossling6395 Ironic, given the religion's history with people eradication.

@lexslate2476 5 ай бұрын

So the answer to 'Why the long face?' may in fact be 'Harder for fish to dodge.' Alright, I think some of these spinosaurus relatives (the ones that exist and aren't just other spinosaurids under different names) spent most of their lives in the water being one of the many terrible things that can happen to fish and only came out of the water for naps, egg-laying and when a creature on the shore looked either tired or dead enough to catch.

@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski 2 ай бұрын

thanks for shouting out my homie baryonix. 1 of 5 dinosaurs I can remember from reading dinosaur books as a kid. alongside deinonychus, parasaurolophus, pachycephalosaurus, and Dimetrodon. my favorite dinosaur as a kid that wasn't actually a dinosaur but my greatest grandfather. i wasn't the smartest child.

@SCRagnarok182 5 ай бұрын

maybe the real Spinosaurids are the friends we made along the way

@M_Alexander 5 ай бұрын

Now I'm wondering how often members of the same family or genus share a location _and_ a niche _and_ a time period. There's sure to be an interesting story behind how they diverged in the first place and it'd be very interesting if they interbred to result in another unique species later

@darcieclements4880 5 ай бұрын

Oh I would imagine that being adapted to sit in different parts of aquatic systems would be one of the ways that they niche partitioned. You know those giant claws that some of them have? I would be willing to bet that at least in some cases they use those to anchor themselves in fast moving water streams to snatch fish that are trying to move upstream. Perhaps others were using those claws to flip over pieces of vegetation in the water to reach areas that critters were hiding in. Heck they might even used it to be able to move upstream without leaving the water, or to climb waterfalls and snatch flying creatures in caves behind and waterfall adjacent as some squamate (lol vtt wrote squid meats) and birds do to this day. There's so many different potential feeding strategies that could go with their anatomy that actually have analogs today that there's plenty of room there for a variety of feeding strategies within a single river system.

@M_Alexander 5 ай бұрын

@@darcieclements4880 I'm just thinking about how like, the panthera genus are all spread out, or how wolves and coyotes interbreeding allows the hybrids to fill the niche left by dwindling wolf populations. It's just hard to imagine overlapping populations of two closely related species actually diverging instead of competing or mingling

@Tribecasoothsayer 2 ай бұрын

I have to recommend the PNSO models myself. Not because I’m an expert of any sort; I was only browsing for the most detailed and realistic appearing dinosaur toy models on Amazon and decided to purchase a couple of these (before I saw Clint’s videos. I’d have purchased using his links if I had, and I recommend you to as well to support his channel.) They are reasonably priced, excellently detailed and do not have manufacturer identifying marks on them. Also, the various models have been given cute personal names by the manufacturer- but feel free to rename them as you like 😄👍