Another connection between Mike and OMC (more specifically lakes) might be the Fazbear Frights story Step Closer. A jerk older brother who is associated with Foxy goes fishing at a lake with his dad. He also almost loses his eye to a fishing hook as a “consequence” for bullying his brother and disturbing Foxy. Some more potential evidence!

So old man consequences isn't a Crocodile but Mike as Foxy wearing a fishing hat. Epic.

Interestingly enough, that would make the Foxy vs Freddy anime clips in UCN make sense as well. Vengeful child & Mike fighting over what to do with William

He really likes the brush 😊 from the beginning

"You are won." is DEFINITELY a double entendre for 'You are one' before saying 'and YOU remain'. It feels like if the Princess is actually Golden Freddy, OMC might be saying how only one spirit remains in that body. (After the fire or Happiest Day? My mental timeline is borked.)

The "Mike Consequences" pun is interesting, because I believe I discovered a similar instance. (I don't know if this has been brought somewhere else.) We have all thought that Emily is a weird last name, but I believe it is for a pun. Charlotte Emily, goes by Charlie in the books. Charlie can be short for Charlotte or Charles. Another nickname for Charles is Chuck. Charlie Emily -> Chuck E. ... Cheese. Edit: Just realized, the 3 Emily family members are Charlotte Emily (C. E.), Sammy Emily, (S. E.), and Henry Emily (H. E.). Their initials have the letters to spell C. H. E. E. S. E.

I’ve been headcanoning that Mike was OMC for about 3 years now. I never really expected for there to be actual evidence for it. What a crazy coincidence fyxfjtddghjvddgh

One thing I always believed with Old Man Consequences is that entering the lake is basically moving on. He says you can't go back once you go too deep because there's no back, you can choose to stay and rest forever or you can move on to the next world which is the afterlife. In FNAF world the drowned ending ends the game properly because you can move on while it crashes the game in ultimate custom night because the vengeful spirit refuses to move on from Afton.

a purple mike fishing would be very fun to see. he’s just hollow with purple skin and he’s like “woah look at that biggen”

I can stop laughing at his seriousness while he brushes his cat who can’t get enough attention 😭

I kinda just think that Old Man Consequences… is just Old Man Consequences. If Nighmare/Nightmarionne is the giver of death, and the Puppet is the giver of life, then I think that Old Man Consequences is the “Giver” of Purgatory.

Everybody focusing on the Theory's but not a Soul has Brought up how happy lil bro is while being Brushed every Upload, he must be a Joy to be around

I like the idea that is Mike in the Old Man Consequences. It would make sense because everyone can hear William Afton in the Minigame screaming for Mike to help him, giving us that hint in UCN, the whole time. And the story about Mike from the Fazbear's Fright trilogy talking a boy going fishing, chewing gum, has a little brother that is told to stay away from Foxy and other Animatronics.

Not to mention the mushroom cave lake appears RED, similar to how the lake is coloured in FW/UCN

Mike could also be wearing the foxy mask since he knows that the spirits associate his face with William.

I thought this was a good episode!! It made me think of those pictures Mike drew in the survival logbook. Where he wants a speed boat and water skis. Also it's funny if OMC is Mike, because OMC also means original main character. Mike used to be main character

HOLY SH***********T I AM SO HONORED ! Loved the Mikes face overlay *chefs kiss You did a great job! You the first fnaf creator to have me doing double takes on the series multiple red lakes

If we assume jrs is where the sink hole that became the FNAF6 location is.. then the Mega Pizzaplex would be built on top.. being that it's the same location from midnight motorist we know that's a large open area of land next to what seems to be a busy major highway so that would make sense to build the Pizza Plex there.

Thats the best theory on old man consequences ive ever seen, it covers so many things and just answers the midnight motorist

This honestly is the most "yeah this is just lore" moment for me.

Yoooo okay let’s see what you got

Possibilities I think. 1. Old man consequences is the fnaf universe equivalent of Satan/the devil or the grim reaper, or he’s some kind of ancient entity. 2. Old man consequences is a creation of Henry Emily to help any spirits move on or find peace that are connected to fnaf world and ultimate custom night. 3. Old man consequences is some kind of is some kind of guide for the living, the dead and digital. 4. Old man consequences was someone who Cassidy was familiar with in life at some point. 5. Old man consequences was someone perhaps William or Henry knew. 6. The red king is inspired by old man consequences. 7. The red king is Henry inside princess quest.

1 MINUTE?? THIS IS THE EARLIEST I'VE BEEN...

In the fnaf book step closer the Main character may be a Mike parallel, and in the story he goes fishing with his dad, so that could support the Mike=omc theory.

His cat loves him making videos it gets a groom everytime 😂 Such a good dude for his cat. Its actually quite sweet

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="955">15:55</a> Another connection: *BOTH LAKES ARE RED!!!*

The cave and the lake falling animation could indeed be a link. maybe the restaurant being underground could also be caused by a MASSIVE sinkhole.

You convinced me especially because it solves midnight motorist in a satisfying way

Great theory Rye. You are one of my favorite FNaF content creators but there is just one aspect of this video that I cannot overlook: You should get one of those cat brushes that have like a button to push the back end of the brush closer to the "teeth", so it accumulates less fur. It seems like a pain to remove all that fur from the brush you were using.

Ive never stopped to think how old mike is at this point, damn

This is gonna go crazy I already know! I always like new perspectives on "established" things.

The OMC Sprite in relation to Mike’s Foxy mask was *chef’s kiss*! GTLive needs to react to this, cause it’s a good ass theory!

Immediate thought without searching for evidence: crying child's body was dumped in the lake. I will not explain further but think about it.

It fits together sooooo cleanly. Like i was convinced so easily that im almost suspicious, because lets be honest when does Scott let it be this easy.

The voice acting for OMC was 10/10!

Wow I love the way you write your theory videos, I feel like I put the pieces together with you and it's really clear which points you're trying to make, I find even the og boy matpat struggles to walk me through it in the same way. No hate to him just a comparison, I think the chill vibes help me digest the information better aswell, also the way Marq was looking at you while you were brushing him 😭

personally i don't think it's anyone. these are good points, i like how connected everything is visually, but i think he's a representation. not any real person speaking through old man consequences, but just a character to say it's the end of the road. FNaF World was supposed to be the last game, tying the lore with the key to the FNaF 3 mini games and a final game for Scott to leave. Old Man Consequences was there to say, "This is it. No more FNaF." It isn't until you (the player/fredbear) drowns in a lake and falls forever in void and obscurity, and once you stop touching the keyboard, that it dies. And you see scott with his children, bonding in front of the TV. Same for UCN in my eyes. He's a character telling whoever fredbear is (whether it be Cassidy or FNaF) that it's the end. You die and it crashes. Finally the end of FNaF for Scott. That's my headcannon but i do really like the idea of it being Mike talking to Cassidy, all theories are valid tbh

Also name would make sense in that regard too. Old Man Consequences. Like, consequences of what? Player going too deep into the code? And this character that was clearly not born from the program, just decided to stay in the area nosy players end up in to poke fun of them? Yeah, sure. But in Old Mike case that "consequences" part makes perfect sense - him being there is the consequence of his actions as a kid bully. His entire existence is the direct consequence of his actions. Therefore it makes sense to call his older self that - "I am an Old Man made by Consequences of my younger self actions"

Something about his sprite unnerves me. It taps into some weird, early childhood anxiety I would get from playing the Atari game, Frostbite. Great character. I love him.

another bit of evidence: the OMC sprite's mouth looks very similar to mike's after hes scooped

I love that you talked about the cave in Security Breach. I haven't seen people talk about that weird cave that had waters and stuff in it

I believe michael is old man consequence because he lets his brother rest going in the lake the image of three people is elizabeth michael and cc michael also tries to get the vengful spirit to rest but the game crashes meaning either it worked or omc was shut out

This is an incredible theory! These are the kind of new ideas and perspective we need, and this would be an amazing way for Mikes influence to remain in the series without lazily saying “guys guess what he didn’t actually die in the FNAF 6 fire!”

I found it questionable at first, but I was convinced by the end. Theories tend to be more believable when all games are tied into it instead of just Security Breach/Ruin.

Always enjoy the various theories popping up these days. That's gonna be a nice one to relook at everything through with that outlook. Keep up the good work and I'mma see about hopping in another stream sometime and saying hi. Been a bit and didn't realize this much time has passed since I last did.

New subscriber. I was curious about the episode topic but the brushing the kitty and being so cute is what got me 😂

Personally been thinking fnaf world shouldn't be ignored. Its not canon, but the ideas inside it are clearly ones that Scot was contemplating. I can absolutely see them using the glitching up and down as a very interesting explanation for what is happening in the newest saga. I find it odd that the Pizza Plex was shown being built INSIDE a game that fully acknowledged it was a game. If Cassy was trapped layers below in the AR, her father going in after her makes sense or vice versa. Glitching down into the game within a game within a game. The books suggest this is something on their minds, waking up from the VR world only to find out you never actually left. Im excited to see if they are headed this direction. I think it would be neat to see FNAF World be the key to the new era. Regardless, I'm along for the ride.

"I need to record this video but this cat demands a brushing" is such a mood. Every time I try and get some work done at my computer one of my cats inevitably flops down on my mouse or keyboard.

It always bothered me that nearly everyone assumed OMC was Henry. Like the evidence is so lukewarm but it made the most sense thematically. This evidence however is pretty solid!

This is all really compelling, but i have to ask: If micheal is omc, then why is he in fnaf world? I suppose it depends on when that would take place. It would have to take place shortly before the happiest day minigame, which is probably after pizzeria sim, so i could buy mike having become omc by then. Although, if fnaf world doesn't take place at that point and instead is earlier in the timeline, i dont see how that could be him. Maybe it could be some kind of buried memory michael deep underneath everything else in cc's weird spirit memory realm, but if thats the case i feel like thats not how it would act. Personally, I'm leaning towards the PS->FNAF World->Happiest Day. Still food for thought though. But i figure this theory is pretty sound all and all

This fits too damn well I’m sold

This theory goes so hard on the first watch (coupled with the comment section too) man. I'm DIGGING THIS. Its like those railroad connectors as kid we got (Thomas the Tank engine tracks), feeling I get with this theory. Vert satisfying. Keep up the great work!

Another thing thats important is the waterfall lake in the cave of ruin is actually red if you look at it, so maybe a hint to the OMC Red lake idk

i’ve always thought OMC looked like foxy and it wasn’t until this video that i realized that’s not the general consensus

Came here to watch the newest short stumbled upon a full theory video

Mike being OMC also makes sense since technically FNAF's story itself was in a way his "consequence", If you believe the CC was the first victim.

It would also be tragic but good if you consider the idea that fnaf world is rescuing the crying childs soul - michael is there too, to protect his brothers soul when he strays too far. Its not evidence but its still quite thematic

The fact that the lake envolves a huge mistery even in new games is so exciting. The drowning ending in fnaf world (with that final photo that no one knows what it is), the fallfest and fnaf 4 house near that lake, fredbear coming from it... For me, it seems that there is a huge mistery envolving that lake that may be solved with a fallfest game, it makes so much sense now. I wish they bring us the final piece of lore. Fun fact: In ruin's cave, the water on the ground is red coloured, I think it is on purpose, wdyt?

i remember a theory that old man consequences is none other than jeremy fitzgerald and his head is actually a man missing his frontal lobe

When the idea of Micheal being him was brought up I started tearing up from the idea of the angel figure being Micheal & his two little siblings as him being OMC is his attempt to keep helping & protecting them like he wished he did in life.

This is canon and i refuse to believe otherwise from here on out

Okay, I like this. You've convinced me, I'd never have thought of this without the podcast.

I think this might be the first theory that I have ever been 100% convinced on, I thought about it when you brought it up during your podcast and I liked the idea of it but with more evidence I am actually fully convinced on this one

I really like this theory, way more than Henry being OMC. Here's hoping other fnaf tubers react/respond to this theory and bring more connections.

I think RyeToast might also be old man consequences. I mean... look at that salmon shirt

I saw this title and was gonna make a sarcastic joke about the theory being mike is OMC but holy crap that is the actual theory-

Another connection to Michael is I think in the drowning ending the 3 figures at the end that seem to be cuddling and/or watching something are Michael, C.C, and Elizabeth, Michael being the taller one in the middle and it's pretty safe to say c.c and Elizabeth are the same hight so they're on either side of him.

I’m kinda surprised everyone thought of OMC was a crocodile, I’ve always seen it as a Foxy cause you know the red, the long snout and teeth

I stayed for the cat, i haven't played fnaf but i dabble in matpat ramblings

haven’t even finished the video but - gonna be honest since dual process theory’s video i’ve been thinking SO much about mike as OMC. i really like cassidy as CC, but ALSO as the vengeful spirit. and mike being OMC , telling his little brother he can finally rest is .. sweet, and sad to me ive also always seen OMC as a wolf or fox rather than a gator, but i had a big bias towards canines in general so😭

Well, you need a fishing HOOK to get the fish... Just like a pirate hook

Considering Michael had been conversing with the vengeful spirit in the security logbook prior to UCN, it makes sense they have a connection after FNAF6.

I must say, i've always thought that OMC was some kind of foxy like character. The colour and the shape just fit. The rest of the theory blew my mind but that part i already thoguht x)

The fact that fnaf world could get an update is exciting

Some people got ‘that dog’ in them but Michael got ‘that guilt’ in him, poor guy

great theory so far (I'm 8m in so far) but I think you should talk about why you think FNAF World is after FFPS. I think it's MUCH more likely it's Charlie using some entity to set up the Happiest Day, and I think it's implied throughout the game, so I'd love to hear your thoughts on that debate.

i am going to be real honest. i havent really kept up with fnaf lore except for a few matpat videos so this video is near incomprehensible to me, but you have a really captivating speaking voice and the pace of the video is phenomenal. I logged on to my computer just to comment on it. Also your cat is very cute

Surprised Rye didn’t mention the foxy pirate ship behind the lake where dreadbear comes from. Kind of seals this theory.

The idea that mike is the vengeful spirit lines up with the idea that ucn is based off of mike's memories while at the locations as the security guard. who else would fend off the monsters like he does? of course he would want william to experience the things he experienced! He could also be omc, just as another part of himself. a part that wants to let go and move on to the afterlife. i also headcanon that mike is the kid from sit and survive, but that's neither here nor there.

"can you believe this shit percy poodle?"

Who the hell thought the crocodile was Henry in the first place?

That cat be loving that brush :3

Only the best lore channels have the host loving on a chonky cat the entire video

First of all, I LOVE how you engage with the Community and build up not just Theorists at home but Theorists in general. When KZfaqrs build each other up and prominent people in Fandoms do so too, it is so much better! It's more fun and it allows for more Nuance to be put in without a big explosion of nonsense first. Well, the nonsense persists but it stays contained to a few bad apples that can be ignored for the majority of the time. Thanks for that. Now, as for the video, I've always thought that OMC was Henry because what he wanted more than anything was for everyone William hurt to rest peacefully and to have the Afterlife that they deserve. William already ruined their Lives. He shouldn't get to ruin their Afterlife, too. Once he realized that Cassidy was doing UCN, at first, he was totally down for it because the more pain, the better for William Afton plus UCN is the sort of justice that everyone he killed and their loved ones deserved. HOWEVER, after a while, he realized that Cassidy was blinded by revenge and spite, delaying William's descent to The Darkest Pits of Hell (UCN is Purgatory in my eyes) and more importantly, adding to Cassidy's pain and ruining her Afterlife. Him manifesting as OMC is his way of saying: "STOP. THIS S.O.B DOESN'T DESERVE ANYMORE OF YOUR ENERGY. YOU DESERVE BETTER. LET GO AND I PROMISE THAT THE DEVIL WILL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND MORE. YOU CAN BE WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND WATCH. YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THIS." Henry just wants not just Charlie but everyone to be Free. UCN is giving William another victory, even as he's ripped to shreds. Today's video has given me a new Theory to roll with because with a couple of details changed, the essay I just typed applies to Mike, too. He wants to atone for what he did to his little brother (Evan, to me...) and make sure that William Afton gets everything he deserves without harming anymore people. So, yeah, you and other Theorists have given me a new perspective. Either Henry or Michael can be OMC. It's cool. I'm happy with that.

love the content man. idk how your able to focus on grooming your cat, my inattentive ass could barly even speak if i was doing that while trying to talk a complex theory like this.

OKAAAYYYY YOU BAKED W THIS ONE!!!!

This whole video has got me like, “Oh yeah! It’s all coming together.”

I was a bit skeptical about OMC being Michael but after hearing the evidence, I’m convinced

The evidence taken from the CODB hub world is actually really solid evidence, I liked this

Hold on I never thought of this I like it there’s a lot of evidence just as much even more than Henry interesting

I still think "leave the demon to his demons" is my favourite quote in this franchise ngl

and the lake in ruin and old man is red

Im really impressed with the theories BUT IM MORE IMPRESSED WITH THE CAT STAYING ON YOUR LAP

Damn the "ran off to that place again" gave me chills. Good stuff.

im literally shaking i cannot believe that scott actually INTENDED omc sprite to be foxy's mask

Honestly the most solid FNAF theory I've seen in a long while. Most definitely convinced me!

I honestly Love this theory a lot. This is the first Modern Day FNaF Theory that I've actually enjoyed that seems to make sense

Finally someone else saw it I have always believed the old fart to be Mike and I’m glad someone else saw it to

I love the details you put into this.

So PQ4 Old Man is just Chat GPT trying to impersonate him, got it