"Weathering Software Winter", Handmade Seattle 2022

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Here are some of Devine's disjointed thoughts on the creation of a clean-slate computing stack based on the universal virtual machine strategy for digital preservation. As opposed to the seemingly natural trend in software, Uxn is reaching backward in time and making itself available further and further back in time, growing increasingly smaller.
This talk was recorded during the 2022 Handmade Seattle event, visit their website for more information:
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@akachaki Жыл бұрын

During this talk you did well at conveying your ideas, vision and passion. Thank you for sharing this.

@sosai8406 Жыл бұрын

I miss the video updates so much. I love the email updates, but the video logs were so viby. I think I've watched them through now 3 or 4 times

@davidjoelsen3399 Жыл бұрын

Your talk make quite interesting points especially for someone who has been with personal computing since start. I enjoy your contributions in computing, music and sailing very much.

@TroyFletcherKeyboards Жыл бұрын

Great talk. Thank you for introducing me to Project Oberon and "What the dormouse said"

@MavsTail 11 ай бұрын

Devine, thank you. Your talk really resonated with me. I've thought a lot about how digitization has lead to impermanence. My job as a designer and developer is exactly as you described -- a skill which is dependant on software that not only relies on the creator to maintain, but by a fragile infrastructure network (power, telecommunications, internet, storage centres). Being skillful is often attributed to independence, which is mostly true for a carpenter, artist, but not for a programmer. It makes digital work (this generations primary industry) feel less valuable since it cannot stand the test of time like the physical creations of past humans. How can future humans appreciate monuments of our digital world as we do now with works of the physical world? It's very interesting to think about and a problem worth solving. I also live in BC and have begun sailing. Looking forward to seeing more of your content and hope to see you on the water! -Connor

@DevineLuLinvega 4 ай бұрын

Come and say hi if you see us out there :)

@xavierfoucrier Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great presentation! Be safe and continue to both move forward in the same direction ;-)

@worldzer0 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic talk! This is something I've been thinking about for a while. When you explained how we're learning tools not skills, that really resonated with me as a digital product designer. Everything we make is in some tool that basically is unusable unless you've got a connection.

@beefladle 5 ай бұрын

Same planet, different ocean: I am recapping my graphic design study with an emphasis on learning skills, not using tools. Made paper boxes for gifts last christmas, too. Enjoying the slow learning of skills so far.

@ptrckqnln Жыл бұрын

Fantastic presentation. Thank you for the inspiration.

@chhindz Жыл бұрын

Miss your sailing adventures. I would like to sail to Japan where I lived on land for a year in 80s

@scottmonaghan1078 Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation

@sanderbos4243 11 ай бұрын

Loved it!

@BRODZELi Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@snapdeus 9 ай бұрын

inspirational

@Rong2k Жыл бұрын

If you want to take this more into Lisp direction, look into Nock. It has a minimal spec of 9 lines, and can be accelerated on any alien systems due to its inherent hygiene. One problem that plagues the assembly-type languages is implicit register size. This comes with some ugly corner cases, and Nock design solves it in a consistent and clever way.

@DevineLuLinvega Жыл бұрын

We toyed around with nock a few years ago, it's kind of fun, pretty slow unless you do heavy vectorization at the vm level which we didn't want to do. I think a more interesting system of that type is Kindelia(interaction nets).

@nifftbatuff676 Жыл бұрын

I hpe that in the future there will be the freedom to create our programs.

@andybacohonestly104 Жыл бұрын

that was great! I like the idea of permacomputing. However, I'd like to mention that original permaculture is not necessarily trying all different ideas and see what sticks, it is more about observing working patterns and systems in nature, understanding how they work and interact with each other and applying that knowledge to designed/human made systems. At least that was the original idea behind permaculture, now it is a lot more politicized and more in the line of throw in whatever.

@DevineLuLinvega Жыл бұрын

I agree that it was a very vulgar way of explaining the thing, I meant it more in the sense of abundance of experiments, I've been invited to talk to Strange Loop this year, and I'll try to go deep into the perma in permacomputing specifically. At handmade it was just a quick detour to mention it.

@Jmmondeau Жыл бұрын

Hey guys. I’ve been wondering where you have been. I’m now living in Mexico on a 50 foot trawler. Do you have some contact info so I can stay in touch with you.

@HundredRabbits Жыл бұрын

We're still bumming around the Salish sea. Our contact info is on our wiki 100r.co under "about us>the rabbits", we'd prefer not to post email directly here.

@imustbecomeamachine5470 Жыл бұрын

я люблю ваш софт🥰

@DMWatchesYoutube 3 ай бұрын

Near sundown you could have something connect and then power off every 10 seconds lol to use minimum power till day light and maintain the connection... but that's garbage and a ton of work

@nanthilrodriguez 6 ай бұрын

With all the talk of esoteric languages, why is APL or K never brought up in these conversations? It's as if they never existed, but APL was one of the most predominant languages on mainframes at one point in time, and has been in production perpetually since the 60's. If you want a system on a tshirt, the entire specification of K is like 20 columns wide, and 20 rows long.

@DevineLuLinvega 5 ай бұрын

The APL specification is huge, and even smaller array languages are quite large, the BQN VM for example(which is love and use daily) is relatively small as far as implementation go for these types of languages, but it's still about 30x the size of things I mention in the talk like Chifir and the likes.