I think she was happy because she got a "real" competition

I like the way this scene was choreographed. Though Wednesday lost the match, she still made her point to everyone (and especially Bianca) that she's a force to be reckoned with.

"He isn't hopeless, he's lazy..." This is a nice hint of Bianca's true character. She's not just a jerk or mean for the sake of mean. She's the best, but also someone who notes the quality of others and seeks unorthodox means to draw it out. She's an apex trying to drag other's up to her level.

I loved that Wednesday was actually shocked that someone managed to cut her. I binge-watched this entire series in a day! I thoroughly enjoyed it.

needs a second season immediately

One of the many things I love about Nevermore is how Wednesday was allowed to pick her own costume/color palette although her dress didn’t uniform with others'.

Wednesday losing the fight here was a mark of good hero design. You need to let your characters fail, especially when they are confident. It shows your audience they are human and can bleed and sometimes it humbles them...other times it just makes them more determined. Either way it's a good show.

Lesson: don't assume arrogance means unskilled..some people really can back up what they say... Side note: I am loving Wednesday's black fencing outfit... my first thought was immediately Yes

This was honestly my favourite Netflix series of the year!! The cast all did such a good job owning their roles. Especially Jenna she shined as Wednesday. The story and especially the writing the dialogue so funny and fresh!

This is actually a pretty excellent scene: Wednesday, true to form, acts as an Agent of Vengeance in defending the weak (Rowan) against the strong (Bianca), first with trading verbal barbs, with the added metaphor of her rapier as a stinger; that's actually characteristic of The Addams sense of honor. When the challenge turns physical, she fights in traditional formation to 2 effects--1) it allows her to exploit Bianca's underestimation of her to get the first hit, 2) enhances Bianca's ego by allowing Bianca to use that formation to get the second hit. Then, she flips the script by abandoning linear stances into loose formation, giving her the upper hand as Bianca is likely unaccustomed to combat maneuvering. Then, Wednesday actually loses, which subverts the narrative expectation. Wednesday's mistake was being impractical and aggressive. She assumed that Bianca's ego masked some ineptitude, and so Wednesday focused too much effort on humiliating flair while Bianca focused on pragmatic tactics. Every misstep Wednesday made was by trying to match her opponent's energy instead of forcing her opponent to match hers--Bianca is bold and aggressive, Wednesday is always subdued and precise. By taking the aggressive approach, Wednesday opened herself up to positions that made Bianca's hits possible. Had she adopted a strategy reflective of her personality, Bianca would have had to make all the gambits, thus making her vulnerable to Wednesday's ripostes. I also like that Wednesday's "psychopathy" makes her an outcast. These Nevermore cryptids are fairly conventional people so a normal human with inhuman psychology unnerves even them. Unfortunately, this scene kind of proves that Wednesday ISN'T a psychopath: if she was, she wouldn't care about Rowan or feel the need to defend him.

I like the fact that she didn't win, because it would be too cliché if she did.

This might be strange to say, but I appreciate that Wednesday does something villainous and gets punished for it. It's good to make sure the MC it's a flawless person both physically and personally

As a fencer, I'm really happy the sabre got used in this scene. Even though steps were maybe more or less correct, I'm happy they were a fencing scene, actors really did well

This was a great way to De-Mary Sue Wednesday as a character. A superb job by the writers.

As a fencer this is the most stupidest and funniest fencing match ive ever seen

pretty wild that this is one of the best fencing scenes in modern day media considering it's painfully obvious that noone involved in this scene has ever fenced or watched anyone fence or has any idea what fencing is. Here's what i noticed on my first watch. 1. If you walked through a piste like at 0:07 you would get thrown out instantly. 2. 00:20 patch is on the wrong side of his jacket literally unforgivable (kidding) 3. Games aren't played to 3 points, why does every director think that 4. Just continue ignoring the electric devices we've been using for like 60 years and pretend like all fencing is dry fencing 5. using epee masks for sabre but since there's no electricity doesnt matter i guess 6. Black lamees are only for teachers and masters, not edgelords 7. If anyone even joked about playing with their masks off the teacher would throw them out, literally what is the point 8. Why would anyone ever make removable tips for swords they would get sued so hard 9. Don't get why every fencing scene has to have some dumb twist to make it cooler, it's already a swordfight just make it look not dumb and silly. Unfortunately all of them look goofy as hell including this one. Its still pretty good but the bar is so low. 10. I'm not an expert on right of way but pretty sure doing a triple somersault loses priority 11. Also love how whenever fencing is shown they're using sabres but playing like its foil (ofc they're not actually fencing at all and just stage fighting but still) Thanks this has been cinemasins, sin counter: 11

"Your face finally got that splash of color it so desperately needed." And that smile 😂 I love Bianca.

Many audience misunderstood Bianca here, they thought she was bullying Rowan because she's a crass or blunt. In reality she gives him respect by acknowledging that he isn't helpless. Infact Rowan is one of the most powerful people in the school with his powers and it's possible it is the other students, or the audience who underestimate him, not Bianca. How is Bianca a villain when during episode 1 all she did was: - make some remarks about the new girl based on gossip that she killed someone. Actually Ajax even said Wednesday ate the people she killed so why is no one saying Ajax is a villain? - Bianca only accepted Wednesday's duel and fought her fair and square at fencing. - Wednesday approached Bianca after Rowan died and asked her to report it. Instead of dismissing her, Bianca actually helped her and went to report to Weems and not questioned Wednesday's honesty whether it was nonsense. I am not saying she is purely good as well but considering her a villain during this time, people are exaggerating. Rowan actually tried to kill Wednesday twice! is he not the villain then? Because im not hearing anyone say something about Rowan.

The lesson for Wednesday: Just because her mother and father fence to flirt doesn't make her an expert. Although she *is* good, there are people who are *equally* good and then it just comes down to the question of who makes the first mistake.

I love how Wednesday fighting style gravely changed after she has challenged Bianca to a "winner draws first blood" challenge. Wednesday fighting style becomes more circular and contains some elements of Wu Shu. Especially at 2:24 you can see how she does that somersault jump to dodge. Uncle Fester taught her very well!

Imagine Bianca cut off one of Wednesday‘s braids💀

Wednesday really broke that stereotypical hero that doesn't get backed up and tries to act as the Revenger Person, Bianca didn't down bad Rowan, she actually recognizes him as a good fighter. Her mentality/mindset reminds me of Saitama, who couldn't find an enemy at his level to face him equally and finally be great challenge to him, just like Bianca. Wednesday's problem was to overconfident herself on humiliate Bianca more than just win the battle in a fair and not exaggerated way. And another thing: The villain here is Rowan, who tried to kill Wednesday already on the 1st episode due to her mother's fear of Nevermore's "Fall" predicted on her visions.

She lost but sometimes the point is to challenge the unchallenged

Finally a battle where the confident hero doesn't completely outclass and embarrass their adversary, but loses like a (relatively) human being could. Feels refreshing. Although Wednesday is right about many things, she's not right about everything and might overestimate herself.

This is good. Wensday is an actuall interesting story not a bland tenage power fantasy as a lot magic shool franchises it has bern compered to often are.

How this scene would play out in real life: Wednesday: [wears black gear into gym] The other people wearing black: aight, bet Everyone having unique parts of their gear (flags, names, stamps, etc.): aight, bet Wednesday: [walks across mats while people are actively fencing] The fencers on the mat: Ayo, what the heck? rude. Wednesday and opponent: [keeping their points everywhere other than on their opponent] All the fencers on the sidelines giving constructive criticism: Hey, stop flinging your blade everywhere, keep the tip on the opponent! Wednesday: [continuously turns her back to her opponent] Ref: [issues her a black card after several reds] Wednesday: Winner draws first blood Ref: Like hell they will. Young lady, please leave my gym.

This is one of the best scenes of the show We all expected Wednesday to win but the writers subverted our expectations by making Bianca win

I admire the rivalry between these two

as a fencer im adding wednesday to my long list of shows/movies/books that tried to portray fencing and failed miserably. this hurts my eyes

Bianxa4: "Oh you must be the psychopath they let in!" Wednesday: "And you must be the self appointend queen bee. " UGH THIS IS MY 2ND FAVOURITE QUOTE

The way she looks at Xavier is funny and dead serious 😂

Just watched the clip, I love how Thing is portrayed, such attention to detail with e stitches and the guy who was beaten at fencing in the beginning using his inhaler..!! Brilliant, I thought this was at the cinema and now i find its aseries on Netflix gonna have to watch it

These two would hate to admit it, but they’re more alike than they think.

I am a fencer so the second she said no masks/ tips I was like gurl what 😮

I love how Xavier is just standing in the back watching.🤣cant wait for second season

Just when we were prepared to hate Bianca, she pulled through. Love her!

As a fencer, this is hilarious 😂😂 they have no idea what they're doing

When Wednesday said “And you must be the self appointed queen bee. Interesting thing about bees, pull out their stingers and they drop dead,” I was like “damnnnn”! That’s probably my favorite line. Amazing roast lol!

I hate how much I love this show. I would hate to see more seasons!

I love Xavier in this scene !! When he first notices Wednesday, he takes off his helmet !! And he staring at her when she wins the first round !! She lost but he still admired something about her !! 😊😊

this is some zesty fencing

This is an unrealistic fencing match.

Oh my God!! Her full toothed grin at the end!! I'm in love with you BIANCA!!!😭😭😭

The fist two bouts are perfect. Sadly, after removing the masks it's all spinning and no fencing :( The final hit is clearly out of distance, because Bianca at the end presents her saber point-in-line and it's clearly too far from Wednesday's face while after getting hit none of the girls moved their feet.

I have to say that this girl is the coolest Wednesday Adams yet. Imagine how much cooler she would be if she was cast as Emily the Strange. ☺️

i cant wait for season 2! we need it asap..

I can't wait to see their rematch in the future. Even Bianca herself is looking forward to it.

Jenna is gonna kill this, this is enough proof

You would be carded or banned if you tried this in a real fencing club. The only way this would be acceptable is if it was coach approved. Likewise Wednesday is wearing a coaches outfit. Unless it was purely for practice it would not be allowed. Don't get me started on the kicking........

This series is worth watching again on Halloween. My generation is playing these characters now. Of course, I have to mention that in this month too this is our tradition too, I have some things in thought.🖤

Not gonna lie, this scene sparked my interest in fencing. It looks fun

i just finished watching the whole series and i thought it was great. i would love to see a rematch between wednesday and bianca but then become this unstoppable team with xavier, enid, and eugene. i love those characters.

Although Wednesday had quite the teacher, being Gomez who's notoriously an expert fencer, but it seems Wednesday still has much to learn.

fencing with saber on epee attire is crazy

So excited for season two

The way she learned all of that from fencing is incredible its amazing how she learned it!

I love this scene, fencing honestly looks like so much fun, Wednesday is a tough one😉

Something tells me Jenny wanted Wednesday and Bianca to quote Zorro & Elena from "The Mask of Zorro". It only seems fitting since Catherine Zeta-Jones (Elena) was playing Wednesday's mother (Morticia) in this series. Bianca/Zorro, 'I do not have time to give you the proper instruction.' Wednesday/Elena, 'I have had the proper instruction since I was four.'

Wow! That was pretty epic.

second season immediately pleeeeease

Wednesday's all out , win or lose, attitude is something else.

Look at Bianca's smile at the end. She was so happy. That she actually had to try for once. Im glad that Wednesday lost this fight. It's so annoying the cliche of the new kid coming in dominating everyone on their first day.

this fencing style is ancient

Why i love bianca...

Brilliant series! Binge-watched all 9 episodes this weekend..

It was admirable for me that the creators of Wednesday broke the cliché of the protagonist beating her rival in her first confrontation. And frankly I deduced right that Wednesday would lose to Bianca in that first duel, I unconsciously deduced that way.

I love the bee reference given everything that transpired around bees later on in the series 😊😊

Just watched all episodes of Wednesday great I l laughed and cryed alot the best 💋❣️💯

I didn't like Bianca at first but I warmed up to her.

I'm starting this series tonight, and I really hope that this scene continues on where Bianca laughs but then clutches her lower back, and it focuses on Wednesday's foil as she brings it into frame and blood drips off the tip.

Everybody’s saying how cool this scene was to make Wednesday lose but I’m just looking at how unrealistic this is, they went off the mat and the were fighting like it was actual swords. Not only that but a fencing teacher would never allow that to happen no matter what. Also even when they were on the mat they were still not fencing correctly but then again it’s a show that has a giant goblin and for some reason the school isn’t put on lockdown when the murders start happening 🤘

I absolutely love fencing ⚔️🗡️🖤 Definitely works on your coordination, cardio and the ladies love it too 🖤

I would have loved to have seen Wednesday use Gomez's finishing move on Tully from the first movie

Bianca and Wednesday are the most gorgeous people i have ever seen

Fencer here. The second part of the duel is not realistic to the sport ofcourse but the first one is kinda accurate; their footwork that is. However the wear uniforms suitable for epee swords (one of the three swords in fencing) but their swords are sabers. Their play style also looks more like saber fencing and the fact that a point was counted when the right-side hit the blade with the side of it on top of the mask is also a sign of saber play. So I think they are playing a saber game but with epee clothing

Okay. This sold me on the show. Gonna finally give it a watch

It’s pretty convenient that the only people in the fencing club are the main characters 😂

I love you ( Jenna Ortega ) ❤

Wednesday stunt double, Jenny Ayumi, is incredible. ❤❤❤

as a fencer... why are they fencing foil with sabres😭😭

The irony that her last name is Sunday and she's in a villain in a show called Wednesday.

This was an Amazing show, brilliant

I like the way this ended, the expectation was that Wed was gonna win

some small inaccuracies: - Refs/coaches don't say "en garde" to make fencers put on their mask, they are expected to wear them before that. "En garde" signals the fencers to assume the ready position, with "Allez" signalling the start of the bout. - Yes, if you fall it's your fault even if the opponent somehow "tripped" you. That's why people in fencing are taught footwork first and actual fencing later. Even with that, falling doesn't automatically means the opponent won, it simply stops and resets the bout - Even in first-blood-drawn fencing duels (according to old military officers' manuals, which my father did study when he was an Army officer) you are not allowed to either show your back to the opponent (so no twirling) nor you are allowed to step off the lane even with one foot. That would be considered ungentlemanly and you'd lose the duel by default (which would be even worse because it would mean you weren't a gentleman officer) - "No tips" wasn't a thing in military duels, no rule said you could only slash, which is why even in old military duels, even if you didn't have full masks, you had protection for torso, neck and eyes - No, even in old military duels kicking was not allowed - Sabre fencing doesn't count legs as targets so they wouldn't have had to guard for attack against them. The allowed areas are head, torso and arms. Swords (epèe) instead is free-for-all, but you can only strike with the tip. - A standard olympic fencing sabre doesn't leave a clean cut like that (nor does the sword or rapier), they are designed specifically not to. Sure, they can leave a very nasty bruise, maybe some surface scarification in addition, but you can't make that kind of cut - Being struck with a fencing weapon like that hurts like a bitch

I do fencing, I believe it’s pretty hard just like other sports but it’s very fast which can be confusing to people who go on with their daily lives. When I started off fencing I cried blood and tears because I was not quick enough to take down anyone I went against. My reflexes were slow. But I have now improved and I think fencing is usually about reflexes. My opinion. Foil is the hardest one I had been through. Frankly because my weapon had seemed to always hit the leg or head. But Epee is important with defence. I mean all are but defence is not my strongest skill. Keep in mind fencing is not about hurting each other

The chemistry here 👀

Wednesday always slay in every episode

2:19 thats a total Jedi move right there.

I love it all of them it's Wednesday❤

Ppl are weird, Bianca performance was on point! What the hell color has to do with it, she was great at the role 🤷🏾‍♂️

Fencing sabres (the type of sword they were using) don't work like that. They aren't sharp. It's pretty hard to draw blood unless the blade actually breaks. Also... why did they only go to three points? No one does that? A short bout is to 5, a regular bout is 15. And what was up with them wearing épée gear while using sabres? I guess they weren't fencing electric, but their masks would still be the electric kind. And the footwork? Cool looking, but not very good from a technical standpoint. - A fencer

Well shot well choreographed scene. But as someone who fenced for 8 years and did sabre. It makes me want to die.

Cool scene. Wish they did actual fencing though. Especially since this takes place in modern times. Anyone who does actual fencing doesn't fence like that. Still, cool scene.

I hope Netflix finally got something good to show

We need another SEASON NNOOW!!

Ilove you wednesday and how you were defeated Biancer but you seems Amaizing. (are you a ghost) you dont even blink im just waiting for season 2

He isn't hopeless, he's lazy EMOTIONAL DAMAGE😅

Wednesday really treated this place like a prison. First thing to do is beat up the strongest one there to exert dominance. Didn't work in this case... Been on the backfoot ever since, always needing to keep one eye open.

Where do I start? They wouldn't be using pointed tips and they absolutely would not be allowed to fence without their masks, *especially* if they were - for some reason - using pointed tips.

Finally a worthy opponent