Weirdest Arch User Repository Package Ever Created!

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The Arch User Repository or the AUR is an absolutely incredible resource and will usually have everything that you could possibly want this even includes weird packages that don't seem to make any sense in how they're packaged
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@Aura_Mancer Жыл бұрын

An AUR I love is the one that downloads a Windows Enterprise ISO, gets the fonts from it, installs them, and then deletes the ISO. And I think the package explained how nothing of this violated Microsoft TOS. It's ttf-ms-win10-auto

@phoenixrising4995 Жыл бұрын

Yeah those pesky Windows fonts if you want to keep compatability with MS Office docs Yuck.

@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын

That's hilarious.

@tuantran3629 Жыл бұрын

The correct package is ttf-ms-win10-auto btw

@Aura_Mancer Жыл бұрын

@@tuantran3629 ah, true. I'll edit it

@Aura_Mancer Жыл бұрын

@@phoenixrising4995 believe me that I'm not fond of having *calibri* on my system

@DaVince21 Жыл бұрын

So basically, they _ported_ a whole application in nothing but an AUR script. Pretty neat.

@nikkiofthevalley Жыл бұрын

Not a very complicated port, but yeah. Trying to port a native application however, that'd be impressive. I can think of ways you could do such a thing as well, would be stupidly fiddly, though, and very slight changes would break everything.

@aDifferentJT 11 ай бұрын

I’d class the patches that are being applied as the real port, and those aren’t inline within the AUR script

@user-dc9zo7ek5j Жыл бұрын

The person dedicated so much time and knowledge in order to get this up and running. I am more than impressed.

@DeeezNuts Жыл бұрын

man just wanted to listen to some music

@Fareke2 Жыл бұрын

@@DeeezNuts There are more ways to listen to music.

@Handy-Handy Жыл бұрын

@@Fareke2 I think @Deeez's sentence was highly ironic :D

@pumpkinjutsu1249 Жыл бұрын

@@DeeezNuts username checks out

@oro6768 Жыл бұрын

At this point, I'd be surprised to see something the AUR *doesn't* have. Even if it's broken, I always see an AUR package for an app

@tgheretford Жыл бұрын

Straight off the top of my head, AbracaDABra, a DAB player which uses SDR dongles to decode digital radio stations.

@user-cu6yh7po2f Жыл бұрын

@@tgheretford I am surprised this isn't in aur yet. It even has ubuntu version Though 4 stars on github might tell something about it's popularity

@SkyyySi Жыл бұрын

The calamares installer has no AUR package. There are a lot of PKGBUILDs for it, but not in the AUR.

@oro6768 Жыл бұрын

Yall have been played for fools, as I can now submit those packages to the AUR so that there is never a package not in the AUR

@aerospherology2001 Жыл бұрын

Even BrickBench, a level editor for LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga, has one.

@jeverest Жыл бұрын

I like these style videos of yours where you go a bit deeper on "taken for granted linux / distro features" for which us noobs out there need more exposure. I mean, of course, but I didn't internalize all that could be achieved with package installations. Thanks!

@MyAmazingUsername Жыл бұрын

This was a fun video. I can add some to it: 1. Exe isn't an "archiving format". It's just that many generic installer tools such as InstallShield output as exe files with custom ways of embedding archive data inside them. And 7zip, being the king that it is, recognizes and unpacks those formats. 2. The reason why they are at Electron 13 is most likely NOT what the maintainer is claiming. The reason is that Electron 13 is the final Electron version with the legacy "remote" API which allows GUI code to talk directly to Electron's backend. In Electron 14 and up, you must talk via local sockets instead. All old apps that used the "remote" API need to be rewritten if they want to run on a modern Electron. :P

@TurtleKwitty Жыл бұрын

In what world is "They made breaking changes" not what the maintainer is claiming aka "They made breaking changes"?

@MyAmazingUsername Жыл бұрын

@@TurtleKwitty I misheard Brodie's reading of the maintainer's message as something else. I checked the screenshot now and see that the "remote" API was indeed the issue and that it was already mentioned. 😂

@ribosomerocker Жыл бұрын

EXE seems to be an "archiving format". Why would it not be? It allows you to archive files.

@MyAmazingUsername Жыл бұрын

No, it's not an archiving format. Why wouldn't you go and look it up after I just explained it in detail and explained how 7zip can open them? EXE is an executable format. It contains native machine code for the CPU, and instructions for Windows about what byte to start executing the code from. Many installers put a small GUI app and decompression code in the EXE, and then they append the compressed installer files at the end of the EXE after the end of the program code. Most of them use proprietary ways of packing the data, but 7z has implemented extractors for all of the popular ones.

@Winnetou17 Жыл бұрын

@@ribosomerocker What Hello World said. To simplify it more, it's basically a format which has a specific code for "this file ends here" which windows doesn't go over (it only loads up to that point). Which allows people to add whatever data they want after that code, in the same file. Including compressed data. But it can really be anything. Including one or more icons that can be displayed by windows file manager, regardless of the executable code.

@salvaje1 Жыл бұрын

I use Deezer on a daily basis and when I moved to arch based distros and had access to the aur I was surprised that this package exists and wondered why Deezer doesn't just make it available officially. I also wondered how the packaged download an exe and yet I don't see wine being used anywhere. This is a great explainer.

@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb Жыл бұрын

I imagine Linux is such a small percentage of users that they don't want to spend time supporting it if people have problems.

@elsandosgrande Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb Why does Spotify bother then?

@elsandosgrande Жыл бұрын

Also, hello fellow Deezer user and greetings from Bosnia!

@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb Жыл бұрын

@@elsandosgrande Some companies do it, and others don't. Maybe the people at Spotify understand how it can benefit them and the people at Deezer don't, or they don't think what benefits they get out of it are worth it to them. I'm not in the inner-workings of either company, so it's hard for me to say.

@SkyyySi Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelWilliams-lr4mb Since browser agents report the OS, my guess would be that Spotify sees enough Linux users there for it to make (financial) sense, while that's not the case for Deezer.

@routerdieb8485 Жыл бұрын

This Deezer package is a work of art.

@Appalling68 Жыл бұрын

This is just the sort of "out of left field" Arch videos I really enjoy. Thank you!

@XeroLinux Жыл бұрын

Oh wow a dedicated video... I knew it would end up as one from your reaction during our talk... Great job clarifying the situation. That's what keeps me coming back...

@x3roxide Жыл бұрын

This was really entertaining. The weirdest package I needed on the aur not even close to this but is strange due to licencing. Cisco's packet tracer cannot be downloaded without being enrolled in a free course, so the aur requires you have the Deb package in the folder prior to using makepkg. This pretty much breaks aur helpers like yay or paru.

@CMDRSweeper Жыл бұрын

Interesting, sadly the Electron changes are FUBARed... I am thinking of all the annoyances of Discord and the issues it keeps creating and the horrible suggestions from their developers on Windows. "Just run it in Administrator mode"

@lorenzo42p Жыл бұрын

this is pretty awesome. I love that you go a bit into the details, not just read headlines

@AKFADE Жыл бұрын

Someone needs to do security scans on the AUR. There have been malware packages taken over in the past

@kj-marslander Жыл бұрын

This was your best video by far, please make more like this. I really liked how you explained everything. 🤩

@TheCalcaholic Жыл бұрын

A similarly crazy install script is the widevine installer included in Kodi that enables widevine on arm devices. IIRC, it downloads a full chrome OS image and extracts widevine from there :D

@scheimong Жыл бұрын

Similar things with many applications that are packaged for Debian/Fedora but not for Arch (for example, Google Chrome): the AUR build script simply extracts the .deb/.rpm archive and repackages it into an Arch-compatible .pkg.zst file. Pretty awesome and straightforward if you ask me.

@samgould8567 Жыл бұрын

Similarly, it is easy to go in the opposite direction, as well. I’ve done so with RPMs.

@Alienwareofficial Жыл бұрын

debtap

@JTCF Жыл бұрын

I've used Deezer for some time when Spotify wasn't available in my country. Quite a pleasant experience. Didn't have a clue that there's so much happening under the hood of installation. Nice video!

@myghi63 Жыл бұрын

Despite not being guaranteed that the package will keep working with a updated Arch everytime, it's way more convenient than using a external repository or ppa on ubuntu for my workflow. One of that very convenient things is what you showed on this video! The craziest AUR package that I have used is a driver for kyocera printers, which extracks a .deb, change the directories to be compatible with arch and also apply patches on some python code to make it work properly

@iamvenomous3393 Жыл бұрын

Hey! Thanks so much for this video!

@mykytao5028 Жыл бұрын

insane! really cool, thanks for this video

@Couleur Жыл бұрын

your most passionating video yet!

@LautaroLosio Жыл бұрын

Actually interesting video about packaging applications!

@bobbybologna3029 Жыл бұрын

My favorite part about Arch is also my favorite part about Gentoo. "Hold my hand please!" "No."

@samuelbidocuello Жыл бұрын

A true demonstration of truly knowing Electron. Ho, ly, shit.

@igorthelight Жыл бұрын

11:32 - Kinda true. But repackers do a lot of interesting stuff with modifying execatables, DLL's, disabling AVX2 instructions, enabling PAE (so 32bit application could use 4 Gb of RAM instead of 2). And there are also mysterious "Windows 7 patches" that allow some of the newest applications/games created for Windows 10, run on Windows 7. Pretty cool stuff ;-)

@Kevin-fw9ks Жыл бұрын

I have seem a similar approach with Authy, it's available to Linux but just as a snap package, so some people just download the .exe of the Windows version, extract and run the bundle directly with electron. In AUR you can find the two ideas, there is authy and authy-electron which extracts the snap package, the first using the actual binaries inside the .snap and the second running the .asar, and there is authy-desktop-win32-bin which does the same way as deezer

@YannMetalhead Жыл бұрын

Great explanation.

@markonfilms Жыл бұрын

Wow this is pretty cool!

@somerandomprogrammer6886 Жыл бұрын

I've been using this package for a while and it has done wonders for me. Currently I'm using Deezer by passing my smartphone audio output to my PC via bluetooth but keeping this package just in case. I hope this shape of repackaging electron windows apps happens more.

@imhemish Жыл бұрын

I did come over this package, and found the packaging nice and attractive, and i thought i could similarly extract and package "Resso" following similar procedure, but i found that unlike deezer, resso has actually compiled the code into os-specific node binaries, so it couldnt be extracted like that. In deezer's case, it gets actually extracted to actual code

@supernenechi Жыл бұрын

My favorite AUR package I found is one for a decompiled and reverse engineered version of the original Microsoft pinball game. Not the actual one mind you, because the original windows version is also on the AUR, no the reverse engineered one.

@martinus_mars Жыл бұрын

this is pretty hilarious. thanks for telling us about this

@goawqebt6931 Жыл бұрын

The maintainer of notion-app used to do that too

@RadikAlice Жыл бұрын

This is _wild._ I love it

@yearoflinux Жыл бұрын

It's a Electron app that's why it's possible. Modding Electron apps is common, even on Windows, like adding dark mode or something.

@5omebody Жыл бұрын

note: it's not "because of the way this package is handled" that electron isnt bundled with the application, its a few things: - electron itself takes up tons of space - you cant switch it out for a different, compatible version of electron - also cant update it with a patched version - arch prefers not to have binaries as the primary mode of distribution in the first place cuz that makes it near impossible (if even legal) to fix incompatibilities with arch - this is the exact point they make, you yourself mention it later in the video might be worth checking out the electron packaging guidelines in the arch wiki if youre interested

@5omebody Жыл бұрын

if anything, it feels almost like the normal installation process for a normal electron package - the only difference being that its packed in a windows exe instead of a regular archive, which of course pacman extracts by default which is why you dont normally see an extraction step in many electron pkg builds

@sumnerd69 Жыл бұрын

what I find odd is that whoever is in charge of these projects feels the need to stress test your cpu with a full blown web browser just to let you listen to mp3 files

@DeeezNuts Жыл бұрын

Who wrote the app? Probably some intern(s) who only knows javascript

@linuxsbc Жыл бұрын

Because it's easy and doesn't need to be rewritten for different operating systems (in this case Windows and MacOS).

@attemptedpolymath9660 Жыл бұрын

This is why I use a terminal based Spotify client. The Spotify app in Linux is just an electron app and consumes stupid quantities of your system resources.

@ahmadshahzad4023 Жыл бұрын

@@attemptedpolymath9660 the Spotify app on Windows and Mac is also an electron app if I am correct.

@phoenixrising4995 Жыл бұрын

@@attemptedpolymath9660 cmus with a spotify plugin would be great.

@marcusmeaney Жыл бұрын

I always watch until the end to see how long he'll pause before he's out

@Winnetou17 Жыл бұрын

Me too!

@AlexanderPrussak Жыл бұрын

You should have a look at the ttf-ms-win10-auto package. It's incredible

@chairwood Жыл бұрын

@jongeduard Жыл бұрын

Hmm, currently on Arch I still just listen deezer using my webbrowser, but I might consider installing this app now. Great project indeed. Certain repackagings are not new to me by the way when it comes to AUR. I have also seen solutions that download Deb or RPM packages from the the internet and convert those. Which makes sense because a lot of proprietary applications that support Linux actually only support the distros associated with these 2 well known formats.

@uuu12343 Жыл бұрын

I apologize beforehand but I'm surprised nobody has said this yet DEEZER NUTS

@exnihilonihilfit6316 Жыл бұрын

Actually, somebody said it 3 hours before you. Not that I get the joke... I guess it's beyond my English level. 😀

@rcht958 Жыл бұрын

Literally the most genius thing I've ever seen

@majoryoshi Жыл бұрын

the best thing about this is that it was originally someone who just didn’t want to use the web app (i assume there is one) or use something like android-x86, and electron basically says “here you go”

@coopercummings8370 Жыл бұрын

Really what electron does is hand you google chrome with a sticker that says "Definitely not a web browser" on it, but it does at least make multi-platform implementations easy, although it does have the disadvantages that come with it being a web browser.

@Dratchev241 Жыл бұрын

impressive, most impressive

@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын

I wonder if this approach could be used to port stuff to FreeBSD? I’ll maybe give it a try.

@thepaulcraft957 Жыл бұрын

this is incredible

@OleksaBaida Жыл бұрын

The one from the conversation with DarkXero ))

@LucasOe Жыл бұрын

I install software on my Windows machine with Scoop and it works in a similar way. Instead of running the exe or msi files it just extracts the content and installs it manually.

@cheebadigga4092 Жыл бұрын

Very nice information. Question: Because the PKGBUILD basically removes the licence information from the package, does that make installing the package kind of illegal?

@catrybou123 Жыл бұрын

It still shows the license on the PKGBUILD so I think that it’s fine.

@cheebadigga4092 Жыл бұрын

@@catrybou123 according to the Arch Wiki (page PKGBUILD), that's only step 1 of 2. You still have to install the license file if it's a custom license, which it is for the deezer package.

@master138 Жыл бұрын

they can simply convert it to a flatpak package. flatpak manifests are so similar to PKGBUILDs. this way they can mitigate the electron version issues for a long time...

@BrodieRobertson Жыл бұрын

It's already using a package with a locked electron version so Flatpak doesn't change that

@n1vz3r Жыл бұрын

you can learn many things from aur scripts. Helped me to install taskcoach on a fedora system! (don't ask)

@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I'm going to ask. Why?

@MrTurbo_ Жыл бұрын

8:10 not completely true, there are 2 packages which can make it almost impossible to reverse engineer, bytenode and asarmor

@LetrixAR Жыл бұрын

AUR is the reason I always go with Arch Linux instead of other distro.

@leonidas14775 Жыл бұрын

I use neither deezer nor arch but find this interesting

@oglothenerd 2 ай бұрын

This is pretty funny.

@justaguyalive6762 Жыл бұрын

makes me wonder if this can be done with discord

@BrodieRobertson Жыл бұрын

What in particular, discord works on Linux

@thgreenshaman8503 Жыл бұрын

Chur bro from New kiwiland

@dorktales254 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't this installer ignore localles?

@Cuperino Жыл бұрын

Notepad++ packages for Linux come with their own WINE instance.

@martinhertz4957 Жыл бұрын

7z specifically here supports nsis installers(most don't), not exe persay. Sorry for nitpicking and thanks for vid. (Edit: Sorry maybe covered before, though just skimmed long other post afterwards posting, sorry)

@BrodieRobertson Жыл бұрын

No I only briefly mentioned it, that's good to know

@Juiceboxmakes Жыл бұрын

I think the app is broken now with the latest electron update

@obama3024 Жыл бұрын

Guess who are gonna try to do that with every proprietary electron app >:3

@user-gw1sh9qc2s Жыл бұрын

The more you explain this the more I'm convinced all this was a huge mistake.

@9a3eedi Жыл бұрын

Interesting... I wonder if this can be done for Whatsapp for desktop as well, which for some strange reason doesn't have a Linux version. Electron is cancer. What's the point of adding so much bloat if in the end you're not going to make it properly cross platform anyway

@Raspredval1337 Жыл бұрын

then why not all electron apps are distributed as an electron app and not as a bloated bundle? Imagine if there was a chromium runtime, that is shared between the browser and the electron apps. It would be way efficient and stable

@BrodieRobertson Жыл бұрын

A lot of projects bundle Electron because they need to bundle Electron, they are built against a very specific version and haven't been tested with anything

@phoenixrising4995 Жыл бұрын

I wish websites would just let you use a standard browser as well. Game launchers are also becoming the same problem on Windows. Steam and Epic games launchers and that is it for me.

@anon_y_mousse Жыл бұрын

I believe you're thinking of Java. As much as I hated it as a language, the setup for such a system would be better. If someone were to take on such a project, but obviously in a better language, I'd definitely contribute to that.

@wumwum42 Жыл бұрын

@@phoenixrising4995 Luckily they are installed only once. But you probably have over 10 electron inststalled on a avarage windows system, 3-4 of them in autostart... EGS, Spotify, Discord in autostart and you are already at three. Now that I think about it, even I am actively using 4 on my linux pc: zettlr, ferdium, bitwarden and signal.

@VictoriaMan69 Жыл бұрын

Deezer isn't worth using compared to most any other music service. It's lossless hq files are few and hard to find.

@seanrileyhawkins4511 Жыл бұрын

I like how some Linux users have the idea of 'I will do it myself'.

@spoilerkiller Жыл бұрын

"If you liked the video, like the video. And if you really liked the video.."

@eyssewieringa2084 Жыл бұрын

Does this mean we could get audio streaming on discord?

@ahmadshahzad4023 Жыл бұрын

@eyssewieringa2084 Жыл бұрын

@@ahmadshahzad4023 why not? We could do they same the maintainer of the deezer package did, right?

@ahmadshahzad4023 Жыл бұрын

@@eyssewieringa2084 if I recall correctly, Discord uses the same version of Electron for Windows/Linux/Mac, so even if you pulled it out and slapped it inside a Linux distro using this method, it wouldn't make a difference as you would need to use the version of Electron used by Discord, just like Deezer needs Electron 13. Also, the Discord version of Electron is not vanilla since Discord also slapped their own patches on top of it. That version of Electron simply doesn't play nice with Linux's audio system.

@mariusdulce4177 Жыл бұрын

try webcord idk

@alex15095 Жыл бұрын

I haven't tested it, but there is a flatpak package called discord-screenaudio which supposedly mods the Discord client to support audio streaming

@richardrapstine9014 Жыл бұрын

I know the Arch users will snicker at me, but what is meant by "even more against how Arch does things"?

@flleaf Жыл бұрын

not gonna watch the video but i once found bullet hell gacha rhythm game when searching for rhythm games in aur

@sakesaurus1706 Жыл бұрын

when the developer refuses to release linux build community: Fine, I'll do it myself

@thingsiplay Жыл бұрын

Deez Nuts

@linuxheki9326 Жыл бұрын

Can we do that with Discord?

@BrodieRobertson Жыл бұрын

What in particular, discord works on Linux

@linuxheki9326 Жыл бұрын

@@BrodieRobertson Get discord out of electron and put it into updated electron

@007arek Жыл бұрын

Just open it in web browser. 😅

@BrodieRobertson Жыл бұрын

Where's the fun in that when you can take these steps and have a desktop app

@buuf456 Жыл бұрын

AUR give you more problems, so you can fix them whole day. Neck beards call that fun.

@cookiedestroyer402 Жыл бұрын

deprecated by guix

@ytuser13082011 Жыл бұрын

This is genius :v

@aeleequis Жыл бұрын

Can you put some more dBs on your audio, I'm currently on headphones, at 95% volume and I still find hard to understand some things that you say. (Also, switch to another video blasts my ears like a cannon as I forget to tone it down lmao) Your videos are fine, just talk closer to the micro or touch the levels a hit

@Winnetou17 Жыл бұрын

Weird, for me, his level is normal.

@gFamWeb Жыл бұрын

If a customer-facing application can be modified to log URLs that point to sensitive data.... that's a poorly designed app.

@BrodieRobertson Жыл бұрын

Without a doubt

@M1America Жыл бұрын

I would have a soy warning at the start of the video. Holy cow that was a lot of soy.

@Darudas0420 Жыл бұрын

Such wired hand movement i cant concentrate on the content

@danielnolan8049 Жыл бұрын

"Listen to us on deezer." "What's deezer?" "Deezer nutz! Ha, gotem!"

@Flackon Жыл бұрын

lmao

@bogansrun Жыл бұрын

newbie linux user here. Been nearly 8 months on Fedora (36, built from server ISO as of late), started on Ubuntu for the first 3 (My biggest regret). I could never play things like Nexus: The Jupiter Incident on windows and then bam, I'm Marcus Cromwell again because some nerds put their heads together and made all the wonderful things that magically appear on my computer after I type some words. To other noobs. 'Sudo' = Oi! 'dnf' = get to work ya lazy slob (or the other ones) 'install' = Install then the thing you want to install. Linux desktop is the union worker of the desktop space. Normal stuff, paid by the hour. Anything that requires some fiddling and screwing around with? You need yubbos for that. Linux, the yubbos kernel, they just don't know it yet.