WEIRDEST New Locomotive?

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Sometimes looks have to sacrificed to pull heavy trains with the highest efficiency and power!
References:
Locomotives: The Modern Diesel & Electric Reference by Greg McDonnell
ET23DCM Locomotives Explained by Chris Guss / Trains.com
Guide to North American Diesel Locomotives by Jeff Wilson
How Diesel & Electric Locomotives Work by Jeff Wilson
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@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 13 күн бұрын
Santa Fe was doing this 50 years ago, taking old covered wagon engines and rebuilding them with freight bodies. Check out the book "CF-7 From Cleburne to Everywhere. " by Cary Poole.Those engines got a new lease on life with ATSF. And then they were peddled off on shortlines all over the world. Even Amtrak owned several CF-7s. Many are still being used today, despite their non compliance with Tier 4 emissions requirements
@AaronArroyo-sn4uy
@AaronArroyo-sn4uy 13 күн бұрын
ATSF is my favorite railroad, I've heard of them before.
@Coloribus2004
@Coloribus2004 13 күн бұрын
The CF7’s looked ugly to some, but they were real miracle workers. I’ve heard crews praise the CF7’s for their flexibility and large windows
@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 13 күн бұрын
@@Coloribus2004 maybe it was the short little nose? The first railroad I worked for had about a dozen CF-7s and a pair of GP-7s. Except for the position of the batteries and the nose shapes, they were almost identical to each other to us crew folk.
@James89378
@James89378 13 күн бұрын
@@AaronArroyo-sn4uysame
@user-ff2iz5qc6l
@user-ff2iz5qc6l 13 күн бұрын
Those CF7s were built before the Environmental Police Agency really started mandating all these Tier rules. I think they overstepped their power and have caused many things to cost more because of their actions. Besides many older locomotives were grandfathered and allowed to keep running. Just look at the Alcos and MLWs that are still running. Anyway I thought that the EMD that opened the video was a rebuilt with EMD components. Thanks for the info.
@_andrewvia
@_andrewvia 13 күн бұрын
I live in Erie PA. Wabtech has been more cunning, devious and cut-throat against their employees than even GE was. These workers have built locomotives for decades. They are skilled. But the company wants to move production to Texas and pay wages that are half or less, to laborers who have very little experience. In a short decade or so, watch for some Wabtech locomotives to have issues with quality and build. These will be the ones built by cheap labor.
@rogermccraney8119
@rogermccraney8119 12 күн бұрын
They want to hire ILLEGALS YES I said ILLEGALS for the job.
@napierpaxman
@napierpaxman 11 күн бұрын
Boeing all over again!
@BroadwayLTDProductions
@BroadwayLTDProductions 10 күн бұрын
Meh ge’s have always been junk so they will be even worse!
@williamphelan8779
@williamphelan8779 10 күн бұрын
Do you mean cheap, Mexican labor ?
@Neil-ru7kw
@Neil-ru7kw 10 күн бұрын
se habla espanol
@sudriansignalman9387
@sudriansignalman9387 13 күн бұрын
As someone whos worked with those rebuilds, theyre nowhere near as powerful as the unrebuilt ones, but they are so quite and smooth. We got her in on a mow train. She didn't stay long but i liked her
@Maine_Railfan
@Maine_Railfan 9 күн бұрын
They are slippery from what I heard and have had issues in the colder climates.
@arbigdog73
@arbigdog73 12 күн бұрын
Notice the Red light over the Ditch Lights on the Canadian National Unit. They use the Red light for rear DPU usage. I wished every Railroad would adopt this standard.
@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 10 күн бұрын
It's just one more accessory to maintain. Locomotives used to have marker lamps or sometimes called section lamps. There was a mechanical rod that changed the lenses from red to white and to green. While their usage became unnecessary in the 70s, any Locomotive equipped with such accessory had to maintain it in order to pass inspection. Broken or malfunctioning section lights were a defect and the engine could not pass an inspection while the accessory was defective. This included the bulb behind the lens that were not used! And yet in certain cases, it was cheaper to keep a working light bulb in the socket than it was to remove and cover the fixture altogether, so it stayed. Appliances, fixtures and other accessories that are not required or have been made obsolete, are really more hassle than their worth. And making something a standard requirement would need some safety background to justify its necessity. Red lights vs ditch lights or even a glowing headlight is probably not going to win any favor since both have the same meaning. "Train or engine here, stop before you reach the coupler, thanks!" The argument about flashing or "wig-wag" ditch lights has been a fundamental debate since the mid-90s when ditch lights themselves became a requirement. But the wig-wags are not required by law. Certain railroads prefer them because they feel it offers an extra level of safety while other railroads remain firm in the stance that its just not necessary at all.
@railscenes4959
@railscenes4959 3 сағат бұрын
Canadian RRs have been trend setters for safety. So while the previous reply seemed to think this use of a red marker used in DPU mode at the rear end is just another item to repair and won’t last, I think it is a good idea. After 40 years working the ATSF mainline (now BNSF Transcon) a red marker on a crowded main I think it is much better than a headlight on dim.
@landonriley9226
@landonriley9226 13 күн бұрын
Looks like an ES44AC and SD40-2 had a baby lol
@lp-trainfan
@lp-trainfan 12 күн бұрын
yes😂
@bowlinglegendofleftwich4775
@bowlinglegendofleftwich4775 12 күн бұрын
It's a SD23T4
@bowlinglegendofleftwich4775
@bowlinglegendofleftwich4775 12 күн бұрын
The only difference is that it has a GEVO engine
@RaisedLetter
@RaisedLetter 11 күн бұрын
​@@bowlinglegendofleftwich4775so like an ES44AC...
@bowlinglegendofleftwich4775
@bowlinglegendofleftwich4775 10 күн бұрын
@@RaisedLetter yeah, ES44ACs and ET44ACs use the same engine, except that they used an ET44AC engine for the Tier 4 specifications
@robertdean9392
@robertdean9392 13 күн бұрын
Great video and great information. I enjoy your videos. There is a small group of us that railfan at Amtrak Station in Clemson.. Saturday evening, I was early ahead of the rest of the group when a grandmother showed up with 2 grandsons. They both had tripods and cell phones with scanners on their belts. They asked about you tube train channels. I provid we d yours, and several others including Distant Signal with Danny Harmon. Helped both of them with Grandmother's permission, to set up and subscriptions for all the channels. They were absolutely excited and loved it. I told the grandmother about rail day at Folkston, and she said they will attend in the fall.
@AnontheGOAT
@AnontheGOAT 13 күн бұрын
Don’t forget 7 Idea Productions my guy.
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
That's really cool! Thanks for sharing the channel with them.
@twiggs24
@twiggs24 12 күн бұрын
The sd40 lives on. Sd40-2 is one of the best locomotives ever built
@kens.3729
@kens.3729 13 күн бұрын
I can completely understand Rehab, Rebuild and Reactivate especially when the Cost of New Units is one (1) to two (2) Million plus dollars. Thanks Charlie. 👍🙏
@distantsignal
@distantsignal 12 күн бұрын
I loved this video! You put a lot of work into it and it shows. Those 1713 & 1714 are crazy looking locomotives.
@v12productions
@v12productions 7 күн бұрын
Thank you, sir!
@sudriansignalman9387
@sudriansignalman9387 13 күн бұрын
Can also confirm that the 23s are supposed to be only in MoW service........ our mto got yelled at for using her as a second engine on the local while waiting for the mow to finish relaying the yard lol
@mikeingeorgia1
@mikeingeorgia1 12 күн бұрын
I left out of Tilford one time with 6 U18Bs, all painted orange for mow service “only”, on a revenue train, because they were the only engines left in the yard lol
@sudriansignalman9387
@sudriansignalman9387 12 күн бұрын
@@mikeingeorgia1 sounds about right lol, there was a time we were down to two engines to cover all of our locals (7 at that time) and one for switching lol
@Maine_Railfan
@Maine_Railfan 9 күн бұрын
They have two assigned to road service on the former Pan Am territory. Crew hate them, they are constantly breaking down, load slow, are slippery, and are gutless. For the longest time they were getting sent into the shops every other trip.
@Messicrafter
@Messicrafter 12 күн бұрын
01:30 haha, I was the conductor on that 1714 when it went from Spartanburg, SC to Kingsport, TN, probably not long after you took that video. It isn't a really good engine, it loves to drop its load when it goes from its sub-21 MPH to 21+ MPH ?gearing?, which isn't a good idea when it is the only engine pulling a train up the mountain.
@anf_8310_ab
@anf_8310_ab 13 күн бұрын
The SD23T4 also have their dynamic brake fan section raised a little, which i assume to accommodate necessary Tier 4 components
@countdooku1971
@countdooku1971 12 күн бұрын
Good video. Very informative. That SD23 looks like the result of a one night stand between an EMD and a GE.
@bowlinerailfan
@bowlinerailfan 13 күн бұрын
I saw 1713 several months ago when it was pulling one of CSX's geometry trains. It was parked in a nearby yard over the weekend I saw it. But I barely missed it when it left due to having to go do something else.
@abloogywoogywoo
@abloogywoogywoo 12 күн бұрын
Interesting design, though the radiator overhang means it's lost its ladder, which may make maintenance a pain.
@mr.sir.
@mr.sir. 13 күн бұрын
T4? Nah, as someone who worked for the railway new GEs are not even close to T1 on a good day. Emissions from locomotives will always be high but way lower than semi trucks
@Biker_Gremling
@Biker_Gremling 11 күн бұрын
Another flawless documentary from V12 Productions
@randallellison6421
@randallellison6421 13 күн бұрын
These rebuilds from CSX are just another in a long line of crazy rebuilds railroads would pump out, and there have been some wild ones over the course of history! You should check out some of the ones Frisco and MKT for example pulled off! Alco RS units rebuilt with GP7/9 long hoods and prime movers, Santa Fe's famous "Beep" locomotive, PA-1s rebuilt with EMD engines, the list goes on! Love them, or hate them, these SD23-T4s are just following in the footsteps of some of the more zany rebuilds of yesteryear!
@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 10 күн бұрын
Illinois Central Paducah-builts with their strange ox-bow intakes. Santa Fe CF-7s where they took a F-unit car body off, and replaced it with a unique freight body. And then some one-of-a-kinds that served as a way for locomotive shops to flex their muscles and show just how much skill they had at building a jalopy of a locomotive. I've been railroading almost 25 years and only just recently learned about the "Beep" haha!
@iancontreras7688
@iancontreras7688 12 күн бұрын
EMD nose and flared radiators make these stunning. I love these things and wish they’d escape Barr Yard here in Chicagoland more often. Very photogenic.
@ClockworksOfGL
@ClockworksOfGL 12 күн бұрын
As far I’m aware, the reason why locomotives use water instead of antifreeze is the engines leak too much. Antifreeze contamination of the oil will ruin its lubrication qualities & turn it into a milkshake.
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 12 күн бұрын
Water works fine. Antifreeze is expensive and toxic. In cold weather, diesels are kept running to prevent freeze-up. Water in oil will also destroy engines.
@user-hb2gh6wh7e
@user-hb2gh6wh7e 12 күн бұрын
@@Greatdome99 That is interesting. My thought was that water lacks corrosion inhibitors (the primary reason I change my car's antifreeze according to the service manual)?
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 12 күн бұрын
⁠while they could use the same pink antifreeze as RV drinking water systems, it is probably still too expensive and messy most of the time.
@ClockworksOfGL
@ClockworksOfGL 12 күн бұрын
@@user-hb2gh6wh7e - For some reason, I know more about antifreeze than I should. In your car, when you add fresh antifreeze, it reacts with bare metal and forms a protective film to prevent further corrosion. As the miles add up, the pump slowly wears down, constantly exposing “fresh metal” that then reacts with the same corrosion inhibitors. Eventually the system “uses up” those inhibitors and that’s when you need to change the coolant. When carmakers switched to long-life coolants a few years ago, they had to redesign the pumps to reduce cavitation and erosion, some even switched to non-metallic pumps in spite of the high cost of glass-reinforced nylon parts.
@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 12 күн бұрын
@ClockworksOfGL the main reason locomotives do not use antifreeze is because they are running more often than not. And if they are running, the coolant will not ever freeze in normal conditions. That being said, I remember seeing instructions on a locomotive in Alaska to leave it running idle in Run 3 (throttle position) when the outside temperature was below -25C. I've also been a (trainmaster) of a short line that had to get out of bed at 11pm and go fire up some engines that would freeze otherwise.
@zenontrainstrucks9433
@zenontrainstrucks9433 12 күн бұрын
Great video! Interesting to see how rebuilt that unit!
@modelrailpreservation
@modelrailpreservation 13 күн бұрын
Every time I see those giant radiators I always think SD45 or GE U-Boat. Doesn't help that when my dad tells me he saw a U-boat he really saw an SD70ACE or some other modern junk.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
U-boats don't have particularly large radiators. And if anybody tells you they've seen a U-boat today, they're almost certainly mistaken. There are almost none still running. Barely even any Dash-7s, which people keep calling "U-boats" but they're a generation later.
@modelrailpreservation
@modelrailpreservation 5 күн бұрын
@@beeble2003 Most didn't, true, but it is worth noting the U36B and C had larger ones, and I think my dad associates radiator wings with U-boats as a result. Dad and I are both into trains, and we have had a number of Lionel O gauge and Bachmann HO and N U36Bs over the years, so he makes the association, as he is much more casual a railfan, in that he enjoys seeing them, knows some units, but that's about it. To him, every road unit GE has made is a U-boat.
@bluegrassman3040
@bluegrassman3040 13 күн бұрын
The EMD 710 would meet t4 standards if DEF is used, but the railroads did not want that. As far as I know the 710 can still be bought for marine use.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 12 күн бұрын
Then Metra in Chicago might decide that they want a 710 with DEF in something rather than add the 265/1010 to the mix, as they have an all-EMD fleet except for the electrics and the yet to be delivered Stadler MUs.
@bluegrassman3040
@bluegrassman3040 12 күн бұрын
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis CSX got rid of the t4 SD70s they had, well gave them back to Progress Rail, anyways.
@danielferrovias
@danielferrovias 11 күн бұрын
Because they sucked irrc
@alexmarks7275
@alexmarks7275 2 күн бұрын
@@bluegrassman3040 They were on a 5 year lease, CSX never owned them, Progress did.
@bluegrassman3040
@bluegrassman3040 2 күн бұрын
@@alexmarks7275 yes I know that.
@BDTrains
@BDTrains 13 күн бұрын
I love the look of them especially the radiator fins. 1713 has a wonderful Ekyrail E-bell too!
@RaisedLetter
@RaisedLetter 11 күн бұрын
Wonderful and Ekyrail usually aren't paired together
@ARP_GA
@ARP_GA 13 күн бұрын
Nice shots Charlie! Glad we were able to see 1713 at Howell in March!
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thanks man!
@3sierra15
@3sierra15 3 күн бұрын
Loved the quality of this video and the amount of info packed into it. Thanks. Subscribed.
@sweynforkbeardtraindude
@sweynforkbeardtraindude 13 күн бұрын
As always, fantastic content and information!
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@bradsawyer3185
@bradsawyer3185 11 күн бұрын
This was extremely informative and well put together.
@tylerrose5232
@tylerrose5232 13 күн бұрын
So I’ve been in the 1717 and 1719 and they where strictly rebuild for MOW duties ( rail trains, geo trains, dumping ballast etc)
@TealGuy
@TealGuy 13 күн бұрын
Is CSX planning to put them in local or normal service anytime soon?
@tylerrose5232
@tylerrose5232 13 күн бұрын
@@TealGuy like k said strictly MOW duties. They was the ones who funded the rebuilt
@TealGuy
@TealGuy 13 күн бұрын
@@tylerrose5232 oh ok
@rogermccraney8119
@rogermccraney8119 12 күн бұрын
Yeah v12 great video as usual .👍🏻
@songtroop
@songtroop 13 күн бұрын
Your videos are always so helpful! Thank you for the valuable information! 💝🐱
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
@@v12productions You just replied to a porn spammer.
@FearsomeGodzilla999
@FearsomeGodzilla999 13 күн бұрын
My first teir 4 gevo I ever saw was Norfolk southern 3648, definitely something special for me
@williamphelan8779
@williamphelan8779 10 күн бұрын
Just found your channel. WOW, this was a fantastic video ! Love all the different scenes injected into the video !
@v12productions
@v12productions 7 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@kennyspry5189
@kennyspry5189 2 күн бұрын
Bottom Line is EMD Engines are still Thee Best Engines ever made and also Good Looking Engines period.
@SDTrains8098
@SDTrains8098 11 күн бұрын
I saw one of those before it was painted into CSX, it had a grey body with the big radiator and an NS cab/short hood, it had marks for GECX
@RadioactiveSherbet
@RadioactiveSherbet 12 күн бұрын
There was a *GP* 23T4 at UP's Stockton, CA yard last time I was there. It's used for yard work. It was specifically on the industry switcher job last I've heard.
@jacksonsdrones
@jacksonsdrones 13 күн бұрын
There's about 2 or more of those new CSX engines in my area, and I still haven't caught one. 😅I absolutely love the horn and bell on them along with their looks. I just took a trip to the Huntington Shop a few days ago! They've got a lot of SD70s rebuilt since my last visit in 2022. They just built a new hydrogen powered locomotive last month. As Always, another Enjoyable and Informative video! Keep Up the Great Work!
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Will do. Thanks!
@UnstoppableRailfan
@UnstoppableRailfan 13 күн бұрын
Great Video!
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@ICE6365
@ICE6365 11 күн бұрын
Awesome video! Really enjoyed the information about the different engines and how they meet tier 4 emissions requirements
@RailsofForney
@RailsofForney 12 күн бұрын
Finally, a 4-stroke EMD.
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 12 күн бұрын
Amusingly, the 1010J is just an improved 265H (thanks to Caterpillar) from the SD90 and SD89 models.
@freedomfan4272
@freedomfan4272 10 күн бұрын
@RailsofForney I wonder if cummins will ever produce a 8 cylinder 3/4ton truck engine. It's always been a 6 cylinder
@RailsofForney
@RailsofForney 10 күн бұрын
@@freedomfan4272 i8s would be a bad idea due to their length, but a V8 or upscaled VR8 would be a good idea.
@RailsofForney
@RailsofForney 10 күн бұрын
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Sounds good to me
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
"Finally"? EMD have been making four-stroke engines since 2015...
@DMP_Ferrocarriles
@DMP_Ferrocarriles 11 күн бұрын
What a great video! The very smooth images, combined with drone and the bunch of information make this one of the best train channels. My favorite one. Greetings from Mexico!
@v12productions
@v12productions 7 күн бұрын
Many thanks!
@thurmandavide
@thurmandavide 13 сағат бұрын
Again another excellent video. Your in-depth explinations are great and I learned quite a bit this morning watching and listening. Your video quality is secomd to none!👨‍🎓
@BigAlFPV17
@BigAlFPV17 12 күн бұрын
A good friend of mine & other railfans I know caught one of those SD23T4 rebuilds leading a loaded coal train in NE Ohio back in March. Very unusual but I imagine they were testing these to see how they would do. Excellent video!!
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 2 күн бұрын
I remember going down to the steam loco scrap yards in N.J. Nice to see some Diesels being rebuilt.
@cheryltysver4819
@cheryltysver4819 5 күн бұрын
In the top 2 or 3 Rail Channels overall and the best with regard to Motive Power details and information. Excellent video! Just found your channel and subscribed immediately.
@mickvonbornemann3824
@mickvonbornemann3824 12 күн бұрын
Seen those Diesel-electric-electric hybrids in Spain? They’re basically Diesel-electric locos with a pantograph ontop so they can run off overhead electric power when desired & run off the Diesel generator when required, or even put power into the lines, say on long descents, etc. Means a lot more versatility at I assume not that much more cost.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
Quite a bit more cost, and you end up as lower power in either diesel or electric mode. Neither diesel nor electric locomotives have enough free space in them to accommodate the equipment of the other.
@mickvonbornemann3824
@mickvonbornemann3824 9 күн бұрын
@@beeble2003 You do know that virtually all diesel locos use their diesel engines to generate electricity to run electric motors. ‘Diesel-electric-electrics’ are also known ‘electric Diesels’. BtW there’s no space issue that can’t be resolved by making the locos a couple of metres longer. Go do a search. It really is as simple as sticking a pantograph unit ontop with the added electric switching & wiring. Yes some are a compromise, but there are ones like the Spanish ones that run like both a full power Diesel-electric loco & a full power electric loco, just with a choice of either. Although some have huge banks of batteries as well, that’s really another type that I wasn’t referring to.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
@@mickvonbornemann3824 Thanks, I know how diesel-electric locomotives work. The problem is that you seem to think that an electric locomotive is simply an empty box with a pantograph on the top, traction motors at the bottom and wires between the two, so all that's needed is sticking a diesel engine and generator/alternator in the empty space. They're not empty boxes.
@mickvonbornemann3824
@mickvonbornemann3824 9 күн бұрын
@@beeble2003 i know, but it’s not rocket science, do a search on “electric-diesels”, not all are compromises. There are ones that exist that match the full specs of both full powered electric locos & full powered diesel electrics, & they’re only a few metres longer. Go check out the Spanish ones. They really do make more sense on rail systems that are only electrified in urban areas & greater populated regional areas, leaving most of the country regions unnelectrified. Take Australia, where the big trans continental trains all have to change over to diesel locos about 100 to 300km out from capital cities
@dukeofgibbon4043
@dukeofgibbon4043 Сағат бұрын
I've wondered why this isn't done elsewhere. Other than railroading's gigantic mutatiaphobia.
@737Garrus
@737Garrus 13 күн бұрын
I love Your intros! They're awesome!
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@LaAwesomeK
@LaAwesomeK 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for this amazing and informative video!!! 🚅
@v12productions
@v12productions 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ukaszwalczak1154
@ukaszwalczak1154 13 күн бұрын
The back of it looks like a hammerhead shark lmao
@MohammedHasanRaheem
@MohammedHasanRaheem 12 күн бұрын
I Love Your Videos
@Megalodon275
@Megalodon275 13 күн бұрын
love your vids
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@TheCTRailfan
@TheCTRailfan 13 күн бұрын
Very interesting, cool new addition to the CSX's fleet.
@constellations1527
@constellations1527 13 күн бұрын
the SD23T4's are often seen in Maine on the trains coming in and out of Waterville
@jonathanlarathetrainguy7788
@jonathanlarathetrainguy7788 12 күн бұрын
We’re probably in the future now 😂😂
@Sigil_Firebrand
@Sigil_Firebrand 8 күн бұрын
Seeing that Winchester and Western unit was a real treat, I live next to one of the lines operated by them!
@williamgreeter1855
@williamgreeter1855 13 күн бұрын
The GEs always catch fires and they don’t last as long as the EMDs because EMD finds replacement parts and easily rebuild their locomotives while GE rushes newer locomotives out the door
@ClockworksOfGL
@ClockworksOfGL 12 күн бұрын
“GE” is a strange way to spell “Alstom”
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 12 күн бұрын
Ironically, GE Transportation made a lot of money rebuilding EMD locomotives for a while, as did MK, which became Wabtec in a somewhat complicated history before buying the GE Transportation division.
@williamgreeter1855
@williamgreeter1855 12 күн бұрын
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Dash 8 are gone they got cut up like the Dash7 In 2006
@charlesgreenwood8229
@charlesgreenwood8229 12 күн бұрын
​@@williamgreeter1855Dash 8s would and should have been considered for rebuilds. Not many left around anymore.
@freedomfan4272
@freedomfan4272 10 күн бұрын
@williamgreeter1855 CSX has a lot more GE's on their roster than EMD.
@JamieSaunders-yn9nu
@JamieSaunders-yn9nu 12 күн бұрын
Just found your channel. Very informative.
@user-yb9sr8pp9o
@user-yb9sr8pp9o 12 күн бұрын
Very good 👍 show 😎. You Do a very good job 👏🚂 . Thanks: alan.
@jondavidmcnabb
@jondavidmcnabb 12 күн бұрын
has anyone ever done a cost per mile comparison of a turbine vs a piston engine on trains?
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
Presumably Union Pacific did, and the answer was "terrible".
@huntersmith7127
@huntersmith7127 12 күн бұрын
There It Is!!! That's The Locomotive I've Been Looking For!!!!
@Cripleclarence_1948
@Cripleclarence_1948 12 күн бұрын
Tier 5? Chevron deference ruling says "Hold my beer"
@ArkansasTrainz
@ArkansasTrainz 13 күн бұрын
When he said surprise I just had to run and grab my popcorn great video V12
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@southmassrailfan
@southmassrailfan 13 күн бұрын
Great video and information. However these unit are being rebuilt in Wabtec’s factory in Erie, PA. Not being done by CSX.
@dmorgan28
@dmorgan28 12 күн бұрын
Pretty cool looking locomotive. I’d really like to run one! Cool video. Thanks 👍❤️
@alexmarks7275
@alexmarks7275 2 күн бұрын
I have.
@dmorgan28
@dmorgan28 2 күн бұрын
@@alexmarks7275 That’s great. Being a retired locomotive engineer I’ve run lots of locomotives but never one of those.
@robertgift
@robertgift 13 күн бұрын
At Goodwill just bought a lamp similar to yours seen at 1:45 . HANDLAN AT&SF Ours is *blue* glass. Designates *Do not move* ? Base has a well in which to set an oilamp? Did the oil lamp have a clear glass chimney to keep the colored lens from sooting up? Is the slot for wick height adjustment? Or someone cut for an electricord? (I put in an LED lamp.) Thank you.
@user-nq1fk3db3i
@user-nq1fk3db3i 13 күн бұрын
Now this is totally awesome how some of these locomotive's gets rebuilt or replaced totally awesome 😊
@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877
@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877 12 күн бұрын
Great vidio, lots of good info, just got an et44 for my Yard layout 0 gauge and shes a great runner.Thanks for the morning coffee...
@v12productions
@v12productions 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jasonmacklin8264
@jasonmacklin8264 12 күн бұрын
Hi v12 awesome video good information on locomotive is USA thanks for sharing the information I have been watching your videos for same time now from Australian Queensland . Jason.
@Hobbytrem
@Hobbytrem 6 күн бұрын
It is looking great 😃👍🏼
@rickknight8950
@rickknight8950 12 күн бұрын
looks fantastic.
@P_litzer
@P_litzer 12 күн бұрын
What lights are you using in the darker shots?
@nndorconnetnz
@nndorconnetnz 12 күн бұрын
That makes no sense. Larger radiators mean either one of 2 things. Either your going to run the engine at a lower temperature or generate more power. Running the engine at lower temperature means you loose efficiency but decrease NOx. Higher temps mean you gain efficiency but increase NOx. Normally . However, with new engine designs, being able to get a clean burn at lower temperatures...err compute error....Zzziiittt Naa, bigger radiators means more power!
@GreenlightGlory-Jesuswithus
@GreenlightGlory-Jesuswithus 9 күн бұрын
Just one thing, I was told the first GEVO was 2004. If I’m wrong, I would love to know about the very first GEVO from 2002.
@Farmall-H
@Farmall-H 13 күн бұрын
Beautiful beasts
@wacojones8062
@wacojones8062 10 күн бұрын
I can remember seeing F7 and Fairbanks Morris running through Rondout Lake County Illinois. Biggest train I have seen had 24 SD-40 and 240 Coal cars test run for train control electronics Chicago & Northwestern main line along US 41 near lake Forest Ill in the Mid 70's
@dr8on1999
@dr8on1999 11 күн бұрын
We have been using one of these sd23t4s as a bowl job in Radnor for about 2 months already. We call it the Frankenstein
@Biker_Gremling
@Biker_Gremling 11 күн бұрын
Is it any good?
@dr8on1999
@dr8on1999 11 күн бұрын
@@Biker_Gremling loads like a road engine. Shit for yard work. We need motors that load quick and put power down but once it loads up it pulls anything we put on it. But there are a lot of faults that keep popping up. It spends alot of time in the pit
@MrMystica401
@MrMystica401 11 күн бұрын
7:12 That's a Tunnel Motor, popularized after the 1970s when it was discovered during Southern Pacific's time running German engines that exhaust tends to want to backwash in tunnels, significantly reducing the integrity of the frame and carbody each time. To prevent this, engines were either factory-direct with these tunnel motors, or were rebuilt to have them. Basically, the grates hold fresh air for the engine to use so it doesn't cycle its exhaust and ruin the engine
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
No it isn't. That's a 2000s era GE locomotive. Tunnel motors were SD40s and SD45s. And I don't think any tunnel motors were rebuilds -- the whole thing would need to be re-engineered as, for example, the SD40T has body over the whole length of the frame.
@brucerogermorgan2388
@brucerogermorgan2388 10 күн бұрын
So the single most important change was going to 4 stroke diesels instead of the 2 stroke EMD diesels, yet very little mention was made of this.
@buckshot6481
@buckshot6481 12 күн бұрын
I grew up in Tucker Ga I know Exactly where that's at, I'm not there at night without the 2A and a pit bull.😂
@louispaparella5766
@louispaparella5766 12 күн бұрын
what does the pit carry?...besides pearly whites>>>
@danielneeley5480
@danielneeley5480 13 күн бұрын
I maybe old fashioned but EMD is still the best, especially when it's smoking and in notch 8; good report Mr Charlie, you always bring good content.
@richharris9489
@richharris9489 12 күн бұрын
Emd all day
@Greatdome99
@Greatdome99 12 күн бұрын
You gonna have to explain how more cooling capacity reduces emissions. There is no direct connection. I suspect this straight six has a monumentally large turbocharger and its equally humongous intercooler (fitted between the compressor side of the turbo and the engine. . .) which need more coolant to 'densify' inlet air for more power from such a small displacement motor. Some of the reduced emissions also come from improved engine management (engine computer) just like today's autos.
@freedomfan4272
@freedomfan4272 10 күн бұрын
Or you could research it yourself
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
@@freedomfan4272 Sure, but if somebody's going to make a video about low-emissions diesel locomotives and claim multiple times that bigger radiators reduce emissions, that claim should be explained in the video itself. It's not just some tangential thing -- it's one of the video's main points.
@PaulThomas-qo9vy
@PaulThomas-qo9vy 12 күн бұрын
Please elaborate on the mechanical &/or thermodynamic reasoning for the need for additional cooling radiators on these modern train engines. Is it for EGR coolers & multi-stage high boost "compound turbocharger" heat exchangers? Are the radiators now stacked on top of DOC/DPF & SCR exhaust aftertreatment packages too? If older engines produced over 1000 horsepower more & were able to have adequate cooling with smaller radiator systems, then what necessitated much larger or higher radiators on newer ones with less power? Thanks for your show!
@pokechimp88
@pokechimp88 12 күн бұрын
1:07 the K1L13 horn and Ekyrail bell remind me of the VIA Rail F40PH rebuilds
@nsbhagwat
@nsbhagwat 12 күн бұрын
When you quote the horsepower and torque figure, is it for the traction motor or the diesel engine? If diesel engine, what are the specs for the electric traction motors? Also is there a significant difference between traction motors used in an electric loco Vs the diesel electric loco? Thx.
@SD40Fan_Jason
@SD40Fan_Jason 10 күн бұрын
I'm no locomotive mechanic or anything but I know the way they measure a locomotives horsepower in the field is by attaching a dynamic grid to the generator output and measuring the amperage at max throttle. 3500 amps at 600 volts is just a little over 2000 horsepower. And then you are dividing that amperage between 4 or 6 traction motors, one with an ammeter in the cab for the engineer to see.
@CSXEK
@CSXEK 12 күн бұрын
I seen both of these engines in Charleston wv in April on my trip
@ljhudsonjr
@ljhudsonjr 10 күн бұрын
04:01 music to my ears. ❤
@dakotaziegler4
@dakotaziegler4 12 күн бұрын
Saw one up one the Ohio river sub in benwood West Virginia on a test run was a great catch
@CommanderDuck-zn8ro
@CommanderDuck-zn8ro 13 күн бұрын
3:35 what happened to the ditch lights 😂
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
Should be on, but only actually _required_ if going through a grade crossing at more than 20mph. (Or is it 25?)
@kdeuler
@kdeuler 12 күн бұрын
Has anyone heard of a company trying to recoup the power from the water coolant, eg using the steam to run a piston or propeller?
@user-vh1uc6in7b
@user-vh1uc6in7b 13 күн бұрын
Wow that was Locomotives NS and CSX Trains That Was a Fresh Paint?
@Neil-ru7kw
@Neil-ru7kw 11 күн бұрын
Please explain how more cooling capacity effects emissions .
@freedomfan4272
@freedomfan4272 10 күн бұрын
Or research it yourself
@ForestGordon
@ForestGordon 13 күн бұрын
Nice
@v12productions
@v12productions 13 күн бұрын
Thanks
@chrisbrown6945
@chrisbrown6945 12 күн бұрын
1713 was hanging atound up here in Massachusetts for awhile
@25mfd
@25mfd 5 күн бұрын
@ 7:46... turbochargers... so in the early days of dieselization, there were some turbocharged locomotives... but it seems that back then they were unreliable... so much so that some roads ordered new locomotives WITHOUT turbos because they were ALWAYS a maintenance headache... question... at what point did turbos stop becoming a maintenance headache and start becoming more reliable???????
@Thatmanrailfan-channel
@Thatmanrailfan-channel 11 күн бұрын
1:07 it sounds like a VIA train!
@williamtraywick5468
@williamtraywick5468 13 күн бұрын
Very curious with emission now, will these engines require DEF
@cerneysmallengines
@cerneysmallengines 12 күн бұрын
I am continually surprised that Turbines, similar to what drove the Chrysler Turbine, aren't utilized in these modern locomotives. I feel the traditional internal combustion engine leaves much to be desired.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 9 күн бұрын
There were all kinds of experiments with turbines for rail power in the 1960s and 1970s. They were all failures.
@briangriffiths1285
@briangriffiths1285 13 күн бұрын
And do the engines have intercoolers?
@realvanman1
@realvanman1 12 күн бұрын
I came here to see what’s in there. Some kind of 2300 hp six cylinder engine doesn’t really help, though that is tantalizing. It is a shame that EMD (whatever it stands for anymore) is sadly moving away from the superior two stroke that is (was) the foundation of the original company.
@sandasturner9529
@sandasturner9529 10 күн бұрын
Looks top heavy
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