mike show a brief video of how the industry has changed to welding vs clamping and how this can change the life of the system by many years
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@kevinwedman2452 Жыл бұрын
I put new dual exhaust with glass packs on my square body chevy and I clamped it. It's been sounding awesome for over 8 years now
@markwarren5644 Жыл бұрын
Welded connections are best, less heat transfer means less moisture, means less rust
@midnightrider1854 Жыл бұрын
I agree that properly welded connections are the best if done correctly as you stated about heat transfer, welding causes it badly and will induce rusting quicker than properly installed stainless band clamps, in my opinion as long as the pine tapers are running in the right direction (smaller feeding into larger diameter) then there shouldn't be any moisture trapped in the clamp joints. Again, this is just my opinion. I'm not as experienced as the host with exhaust but I do have over 30yrs as a dealer trained mechanic and started out installing exhaust for many years.
@Fee.19 ай бұрын
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@midnightrider18549 ай бұрын
@@Fee.1 Lol Thank you for the offer but I am at the end of my career. And that part of my life that I want to sit on the back deck in the sun drinking a cold one and thinking about the poor bastards that still have to go to work every day. 🤣
@Fee.19 ай бұрын
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@promaterial9 ай бұрын
The places where the pipe is welded always seems to be the first spot to rust.
@mpiexhausttechnologies7 ай бұрын
thanks for your question, with our weld together Kits that's why we recommend Painting the weld joints with BT53 Paint, this will eliminate that concern,
@mgmnfld3109 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen dual muffs mounted vertical like this, not to mention how clean the rest of the job is.
@dirtyaznstyle4156 Жыл бұрын
A lot of pickups I’ve seen have the oem muffler mounted like that. It’s just doubled up
@thunderbolt97979 ай бұрын
Personally, I like to put a clamp on each side of the muffler in 99-06 Silverado and Sierras and weld everything else. The reason being, if for whatever reason the exhaust needs to come out, it can be dismantled easily in 3 main pieces.
@mpiexhausttechnologies7 ай бұрын
thank you for your question, we have systems in a clamp-together option for that specific reason,
@alexmiller4998 ай бұрын
I put em on both ways. They make some really nice clamps now and if take the time to swell and fit the pipe,it comes in handy when you take a Y pipe off to remove a transmission and put it back on without welding and cutting
@thespacedpirate7 ай бұрын
I do 3 bolt flanges on the ones I do so i can remove the transmission withoug having to cut the exhaust off. Keeps it serviceable
@centraltexasfoxbodies8 ай бұрын
Up north you can't weld the exhaust, you have to clamp it because it'll rust if you weld it
@krislink17618 ай бұрын
Agreed, unless it's 304 ss. It will rust and fall off faster than being clamped
@centraltexasfoxbodies8 ай бұрын
@krislink1761 my dad grew up up north that's the only reason that I know that.
@bigduphusaj1626 ай бұрын
the reason that happens is you are using the wrong type stick mate. It happens on stainless if you use just Argon. You need some helium in there
@centraltexasfoxbodies6 ай бұрын
@bigduphusaj162 even if it's the wrong stick, it' won't pass state inspection.
@krislink17616 ай бұрын
@@bigduphusaj162 as a 20 year welder fabricator, don't give anymore welding advice bud
@joeb71689 ай бұрын
I got away with using exhaust clamps a lot of times, I hacked my exhaust up one time clamped it together with scrap and had to weld the clamp to fill the gap 🤣
@midwesternwelds119710 ай бұрын
Say the 200k miles again to the people at home in Michigan.
@giftdcam84729 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 I was thinking the same for us Illinois people too.. our states get salt put on the roads
@trekinseattle9 ай бұрын
That's called a stupid tax.... You gotta be stupid to live there where you have to pay tens of thousands extra because of rust damage. Here in WA? 30 years 300,000 not one speck of rust. Also nearly zero UV damage. We throw away perfect body cars cuz we're rich, and care about the environment soo much
@PaulRudd19419 ай бұрын
@@trekinseattle Up north from you in BC, we also have basically no rust on our vehicles. Saskatchewan is a different story lol.
@allurared90299 ай бұрын
@@trekinseattleYeah because its just so easy for anyone to get up and move. Not like 40% of Americans couldnt afford a sudden $400 expense 🙄
@toodjackson44389 ай бұрын
New York here too
@AnonYmous-kd9el6 ай бұрын
Good job! maybe some of us youngsters will pick up on it, I know I will.
@Wreck6987 Жыл бұрын
200k huh. Ever been to Minnesota
@mpiexhausttechnologies Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ✅ works in all climates, we have a 3 year warranty also
@krislink17618 ай бұрын
You're putting 200k miles in 3 years, lol. I sincerely hope that's 304 stainless steel, otherwise she's coming off in the rust belt
@RetadinАй бұрын
2017 Ram 1500 stock exhaust is band clamps, for the muffler.
@TheManic.5-OH11 ай бұрын
God forbid you want to change the sound up out of that miraculous 200-300k mile exhaust system though!
@White000Crow8 ай бұрын
They did cut the old exhaust out. Couldn’t they just cut it out again?
@DadsToasterАй бұрын
This is beautiful!
@Denis-tu1pd7 ай бұрын
In Santa Rosa CA we have a muffler shop welded exhaust system back in 1955 .
@daxlangeveld60539 ай бұрын
What is that box for my truck doesn’t have one?
@waynep343 Жыл бұрын
A friend with a 62 Buick had put the points in wrong. Cranked and pumped the gas for so long. I spotted the issue and told him to try it. Kaboom. A massive explosion under the car. My pants legs were flapping like i was riding a motorcycle. I laid down and looked under the car and started laughing. I was laughing so hard my ribs were cramping. Yes i was rolling on the ground laughing my azz off. He got out of the car and started kicking me. Stop laughing at my car. I'm not laughing at your car. I am laughing at how you are ever going to explain that to midas for a 2 hour old muffler in for a warranty. The muffler skin was laying flat on the ground. That muffler skin stayed nailed to the midas shop wall for the next 20 years.
@thatboykarloz9 ай бұрын
What did y'all tell Midas that happen to the muffler
@andreyshcherbinskiy68733 ай бұрын
Can I weld any muffler vertically ?
@BILLSCHMIDT49 Жыл бұрын
Do you install full stainless exhaust system?
@jkink80498 ай бұрын
Sounds like a time I would’ve loved to live in
@Bill-dc3so9 ай бұрын
Last longer why is that you didn’t explain why. I put my exhaust on my Escalade in 10 minutes whit clamp on never had a problem in fact now with everything welded if there’s a problem with any part now you need to replace the hole thing or cut the part off instead of two bolts an it pops out
@gearsnstuff73309 ай бұрын
And heaven forbid you want to take the exhaust out for any reason, like so you can reuse it out after an engine/transmission swap. The factory isn't doing what's better, they're just doing what makes them more money on repairs, and is cheaper going down the assembly line. Hard to admit in the 21st century, but sometimes the old timers knew what they were doing.
@parkwehrley908811 ай бұрын
O seriously!!! good luck. if any engine makes it but a diesel now a days makes it more then 200.000 miles . is a serious miracle !
@rickchambers738 ай бұрын
Boy i remember i had a 66 Galaxie 427 duel.quads 4 speed 456 gears. With Cherry bombs off the collectors. Loud loud. Back in the 70s
@ghunt812 ай бұрын
If you're talking the old guillotine style clamps, then yeah don't use those. But modern band clamps are awesome and actually let you take stuff apart later. I tend to switch out mufflers after awhile and band clamps make that super easy.
@RJ-lk5pj Жыл бұрын
You need struts on your garage door sections..
@RJ-lk5pj Жыл бұрын
Steer clear of the Kmart specials on auto repairs
@richardcook14807 ай бұрын
I have a 69 torino. Cherry Boomb since 1977 still on there. Blaa black sure been a long year
@benlalime8543 Жыл бұрын
What about the cross over pipe
@brandonstennes49319 ай бұрын
Was the pipe work done in house?.
@mpiexhausttechnologies9 ай бұрын
yes, this is our MPI Exhaust Kit this specific truck was a 5.3L Chevy
@JohnSmith-ty1vn10 ай бұрын
I got a jon boat from monkeywards title is from the 70s.....thing still hits the lake every summer .joker is heavy buy built to last
@ryderhartmann202811 ай бұрын
I never had a problem with a clamp
@Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb9 ай бұрын
I've never had a problem out of them either everybody always complains about exhaust u-bolts they'll never hold it will fall off but they never complain about the ones that hold their axle on.
@druumb23058 ай бұрын
Man I put on 1 years at Meineke in the early 90s for &19.95.
@apachebill7 ай бұрын
I got clamps on my 70 Lemans older than you are. 😂
@karrpilot70929 ай бұрын
I got over 200K before the muffler went on my Pontiac. Then I had a shop weld on a Flow Master to the stock pipe.
@pacolapala7 ай бұрын
My jeep has a clamped muffler since 2001. Muffler is rusted out but clamps are holding tight… nothing wrong with owners clamping things… exhaust shops on the other hand need to weld. Thats what you’re getting paid to do.
@bookhamerfamily4972 ай бұрын
If it got 200 300k miles then i wouldnt need to be repairing it with ubolts and hose clamps now would I? Factory doesnt mean right
@moparfreak19699 ай бұрын
Mine is clamped and cobbled. And it's going strong at two hundred and forty seven thousand 😮
@richardp3624 Жыл бұрын
Bring on the stash!
@user-zt6ih5pp6d7 ай бұрын
Truth
@ultimateormus79038 ай бұрын
I live in Arkansas and few people have mufflers, or they are almost all chopped off or dragging the ground. Mostly going to and from meth houses.
@paulcondie25209 ай бұрын
In my experience were the muffler is welded will be the first to fail! I will never have another muffler welded on. Exhaust pipe is different
@kevincoulimbe39748 ай бұрын
Back in the old days of Muffler of the pipe the clam all came to maybe $10 today you're looking at $1,000 it better last a long time
@Jaseh57107 ай бұрын
I just use clamps cause I’m too lazy to get out the welder
@robertduran19459 ай бұрын
I'm going to make an appointment at Kmart quality work 559 get er done😅😅
@MrMark13258 ай бұрын
The materials is probably a bigger reason than weld vs clamps. Old days everything rusted out and fell off.
@Firstlastname0007 ай бұрын
Clamps👍
@182turtel Жыл бұрын
Good luck with 300,000 out of new shit
@f.chrisliuzzo788911 ай бұрын
If it’s 400 series stainless you’ll get that many years! But in the rust belt maybe 10 yrs
@mopedwarehouse3 ай бұрын
So you warranty all of your exhaust systems for 2 or 300,000 miles against rust??? You must do a lot of warranty work because those vertical muffflers are going to rot out way before that.
@mpiexhausttechnologies3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question, With all new Emission systems having a higher operation temperature vs older 80-90's vehicles you wont every have a problem with.
@anthonyedwards10878 ай бұрын
So you're implying that a welded muffler will last much longer than a clamped muffler? I can absolutely attest from personal experience that is 100% not true.
@frosttvy11549 ай бұрын
Dude this guy looks like Steve Irwin wtf 😱
@andyb99947 ай бұрын
Factory exhaust is the best....
@mpiexhausttechnologies7 ай бұрын
thank you for your question, so on a Hemi 5.7L, for example, we gain 30 TQ and 26 HP with a 3.7 MPG increase with our MPI Exhaust System. Just exhaust no tuning,
@ABeans072 ай бұрын
VW Audi uses clamps OEM
@kaedyncopper127 ай бұрын
Never would it last that long here in the northeast,all the treatment put on the roads in the winter time. That slurry stuff they put down is awful,if you don't wash it off after every winter it eats metal like nothing. Stuff literally sticks to everything and leaves a coating on everything.
@mpiexhausttechnologies7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question, we have many systems with those numbers in that area,
@bobrollans84607 ай бұрын
How are you going to get 300k out of that exhaust system when that car doesn't have 300k left in it .
@repairmanjoe80818 ай бұрын
That's all great if its stainless, but if you live in the rust belt, that system will NOT last no 2 or 300,000 miles! Welded or clamped. Guaranteed!
@master6435 Жыл бұрын
Ahh what exhaust shop don't weld exhaust pipes...
@Dieselmd20088 ай бұрын
Factory exhaust is not welded there clamped
@NoName-tz5ji9 ай бұрын
It worked better and longer than you think kid
@user-og5cj4ik1h9 ай бұрын
Stainless maybe
@Star-fc4ni8 ай бұрын
My dad would never buy a chevy ever!
@edwardb5501 Жыл бұрын
Yup I actually remember when Kmart used to do that.
@ansonwill19992 күн бұрын
Not in Michigan
@Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb9 ай бұрын
Just to let people know if AU bolt cannot hold your exhaust how come you can hold your axle on?
@mpiexhausttechnologies9 ай бұрын
howdy, thanks for your question, the axle doesn't see the same hot and cold cycles the exhaust does. Exhaust temperature reaches around 1250 Degrees at the hottest.
@kevinharms75789 ай бұрын
Looks stainless.
@Randald10 ай бұрын
How much have you had to drink tonight?
@richardalletag1129 Жыл бұрын
80.000
@CH-fh9hp8 ай бұрын
Those two mufflers side by side like that are gonna catch and hold so much crap and rot out in a year or two
@mpiexhausttechnologies8 ай бұрын
Howdy, thanks you so much for you question. with our all MPI Mufflers we have never had that problem, all products are also backed with a 3 Year Warranty.
@Mike_hocksbig696 ай бұрын
My issue is every welded exhaust i’ve seen is full of boogers and splattered everywhere
@jdizzle3409 ай бұрын
Garbage shops weld everything, now its not serviceable or removable for other work to be done. Always pie cut and use flat band clamps. And , no flowmaster will last that long, they rot out, especially if theyre the knock offs
@mpiexhausttechnologies9 ай бұрын
Howdy, with all our MPI Exhasut Technologies Series kits they will last that long,
@george4203 ай бұрын
unless that's stainless steel. ain't no way you'll get over 200000miles.
@nicblizzard7 ай бұрын
What about a car that will last that long
@2nd66tube28 ай бұрын
not as a daily in the rust belt
@joeluisramirez9 ай бұрын
Montgomery wards auto center,,,,,it was more like $59ask me how i know
@jasonjaros13859 ай бұрын
Hangs so low. You should tie some rolor skates on it
@blackhorse70908 ай бұрын
It’s cheaper for you to weld! Don’t BS folks
@mpiexhausttechnologies8 ай бұрын
Howdy thanks you so much for your question, the life of all exhaust system are longer Welded vs clamped, their is a zero percent chance of a weld leaking or becoming lost from heat/cool cycles vs clamps,
@1985FieroGT9 ай бұрын
Join the 20th century? I think you're of by 100 years, join the 21st century.
@calypso4396 Жыл бұрын
2-300k miles huh? And it'll cost ya a months pay to get it
@dirtyaznstyle4156 Жыл бұрын
The hole in the muffler after a year makes it sound racy
@mikeznel6048 Жыл бұрын
That’s not a cheap auto zone made in india muffler out of old 55 gallon drums…
@renatoaraujo73839 ай бұрын
Just wait you will have problems with welding those Mufflers together
@mpiexhausttechnologies9 ай бұрын
thanks for your question, when welded together they will last the entire life the the vehicle
@TraceyPruitt10 ай бұрын
The install looks great! Please don't say those are Garbage Master Flow Junkster mufflers. If so, why would you drive something that sounds like your Grandpa farting? Keep up the pro looking install, just dump the FM brand!
@jonowens4609 ай бұрын
Flow Masters awful😂any of that sounds like shit. Thrush Turbo's❤ I work in a muffler shop and this is how we configure them too.😮
@dicktomasko15537 ай бұрын
Not in the salt 3 years
@ron8935 Жыл бұрын
But you won't get two or three hundred thousand out of the truck....
@skylararendt707411 ай бұрын
American Crocodile Dundee
@rainey330310 ай бұрын
Welding then is all good till you have to change the cat
@user-cb2rd1fz6o7 ай бұрын
2 or 300k really. Everything sounded good till you said that bs
@mpiexhausttechnologies7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your Questions, We have a good amount of customers who have reached those numbers, and we understand it is an uncommon number to hear, buts it's very common for an MPI Exhaust System,
@davewilliams81349 ай бұрын
Who cares what you do or how you do it you say
@ronpeters95487 ай бұрын
Sorry pal , but I can't agree with you .
@kalebborders40048 ай бұрын
Factorys have always OEM welded them only shitty lil shops use clamp
@Brian-nl1ok Жыл бұрын
2 200,000/300,000 miles …? Do you have any proof of this? Or is that just subjective guess.? Have you actually had any last that long as what I’m asking? Do you know the old saying… Trust, but verify…!
@mpiexhausttechnologies Жыл бұрын
Yes many, one that we use almost everyday is 20 year and 380,000 mile✅
@dennisgreiwe207811 ай бұрын
@@boggindeepfuggum6916 probably not in the rust belt