Welding Vs Clamping

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MPI Exhaust Technologies

MPI Exhaust Technologies

Жыл бұрын

mike show a brief video of how the industry has changed to welding vs clamping and how this can change the life of the system by many years

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@kevinwedman2452
@kevinwedman2452 Жыл бұрын
I put new dual exhaust with glass packs on my square body chevy and I clamped it. It's been sounding awesome for over 8 years now
@markwarren5644
@markwarren5644 Жыл бұрын
Welded connections are best, less heat transfer means less moisture, means less rust
@midnightrider1854
@midnightrider1854 Жыл бұрын
I agree that properly welded connections are the best if done correctly as you stated about heat transfer, welding causes it badly and will induce rusting quicker than properly installed stainless band clamps, in my opinion as long as the pine tapers are running in the right direction (smaller feeding into larger diameter) then there shouldn't be any moisture trapped in the clamp joints. Again, this is just my opinion. I'm not as experienced as the host with exhaust but I do have over 30yrs as a dealer trained mechanic and started out installing exhaust for many years.
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 9 ай бұрын
@@midnightrider1854want to start an exhaust company ? Looking for someone that knows a few things
@midnightrider1854
@midnightrider1854 9 ай бұрын
@@Fee.1 Lol Thank you for the offer but I am at the end of my career. And that part of my life that I want to sit on the back deck in the sun drinking a cold one and thinking about the poor bastards that still have to go to work every day. 🤣
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 9 ай бұрын
@@midnightrider1854 so we team up, you give me some technical insights occasionally, you sit back and do your thing and collect your checks. Should basically never require a in person meeting unless I’m failing to foresee something. I can just ship you prototypes.
@promaterial
@promaterial 9 ай бұрын
The places where the pipe is welded always seems to be the first spot to rust.
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 7 ай бұрын
thanks for your question, with our weld together Kits that's why we recommend Painting the weld joints with BT53 Paint, this will eliminate that concern,
@mgmnfld3109
@mgmnfld3109 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen dual muffs mounted vertical like this, not to mention how clean the rest of the job is.
@dirtyaznstyle4156
@dirtyaznstyle4156 Жыл бұрын
A lot of pickups I’ve seen have the oem muffler mounted like that. It’s just doubled up
@thunderbolt9797
@thunderbolt9797 9 ай бұрын
Personally, I like to put a clamp on each side of the muffler in 99-06 Silverado and Sierras and weld everything else. The reason being, if for whatever reason the exhaust needs to come out, it can be dismantled easily in 3 main pieces.
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 7 ай бұрын
thank you for your question, we have systems in a clamp-together option for that specific reason,
@alexmiller499
@alexmiller499 8 ай бұрын
I put em on both ways. They make some really nice clamps now and if take the time to swell and fit the pipe,it comes in handy when you take a Y pipe off to remove a transmission and put it back on without welding and cutting
@thespacedpirate
@thespacedpirate 7 ай бұрын
I do 3 bolt flanges on the ones I do so i can remove the transmission withoug having to cut the exhaust off. Keeps it serviceable
@centraltexasfoxbodies
@centraltexasfoxbodies 8 ай бұрын
Up north you can't weld the exhaust, you have to clamp it because it'll rust if you weld it
@krislink1761
@krislink1761 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, unless it's 304 ss. It will rust and fall off faster than being clamped
@centraltexasfoxbodies
@centraltexasfoxbodies 8 ай бұрын
@krislink1761 my dad grew up up north that's the only reason that I know that.
@bigduphusaj162
@bigduphusaj162 6 ай бұрын
the reason that happens is you are using the wrong type stick mate. It happens on stainless if you use just Argon. You need some helium in there
@centraltexasfoxbodies
@centraltexasfoxbodies 6 ай бұрын
@bigduphusaj162 even if it's the wrong stick, it' won't pass state inspection.
@krislink1761
@krislink1761 6 ай бұрын
@@bigduphusaj162 as a 20 year welder fabricator, don't give anymore welding advice bud
@joeb7168
@joeb7168 9 ай бұрын
I got away with using exhaust clamps a lot of times, I hacked my exhaust up one time clamped it together with scrap and had to weld the clamp to fill the gap 🤣
@midwesternwelds1197
@midwesternwelds1197 10 ай бұрын
Say the 200k miles again to the people at home in Michigan.
@giftdcam8472
@giftdcam8472 9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 I was thinking the same for us Illinois people too.. our states get salt put on the roads
@trekinseattle
@trekinseattle 9 ай бұрын
That's called a stupid tax.... You gotta be stupid to live there where you have to pay tens of thousands extra because of rust damage. Here in WA? 30 years 300,000 not one speck of rust. Also nearly zero UV damage. We throw away perfect body cars cuz we're rich, and care about the environment soo much
@PaulRudd1941
@PaulRudd1941 9 ай бұрын
​@@trekinseattle Up north from you in BC, we also have basically no rust on our vehicles. Saskatchewan is a different story lol.
@allurared9029
@allurared9029 9 ай бұрын
​@@trekinseattleYeah because its just so easy for anyone to get up and move. Not like 40% of Americans couldnt afford a sudden $400 expense 🙄
@toodjackson4438
@toodjackson4438 9 ай бұрын
New York here too
@AnonYmous-kd9el
@AnonYmous-kd9el 6 ай бұрын
Good job! maybe some of us youngsters will pick up on it, I know I will.
@Wreck6987
@Wreck6987 Жыл бұрын
200k huh. Ever been to Minnesota
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ✅ works in all climates, we have a 3 year warranty also
@krislink1761
@krislink1761 8 ай бұрын
You're putting 200k miles in 3 years, lol. I sincerely hope that's 304 stainless steel, otherwise she's coming off in the rust belt
@Retadin
@Retadin Ай бұрын
2017 Ram 1500 stock exhaust is band clamps, for the muffler.
@TheManic.5-OH
@TheManic.5-OH 11 ай бұрын
God forbid you want to change the sound up out of that miraculous 200-300k mile exhaust system though!
@White000Crow
@White000Crow 8 ай бұрын
They did cut the old exhaust out. Couldn’t they just cut it out again?
@DadsToaster
@DadsToaster Ай бұрын
This is beautiful!
@Denis-tu1pd
@Denis-tu1pd 7 ай бұрын
In Santa Rosa CA we have a muffler shop welded exhaust system back in 1955 .
@daxlangeveld6053
@daxlangeveld6053 9 ай бұрын
What is that box for my truck doesn’t have one?
@waynep343
@waynep343 Жыл бұрын
A friend with a 62 Buick had put the points in wrong. Cranked and pumped the gas for so long. I spotted the issue and told him to try it. Kaboom. A massive explosion under the car. My pants legs were flapping like i was riding a motorcycle. I laid down and looked under the car and started laughing. I was laughing so hard my ribs were cramping. Yes i was rolling on the ground laughing my azz off. He got out of the car and started kicking me. Stop laughing at my car. I'm not laughing at your car. I am laughing at how you are ever going to explain that to midas for a 2 hour old muffler in for a warranty. The muffler skin was laying flat on the ground. That muffler skin stayed nailed to the midas shop wall for the next 20 years.
@thatboykarloz
@thatboykarloz 9 ай бұрын
What did y'all tell Midas that happen to the muffler
@andreyshcherbinskiy6873
@andreyshcherbinskiy6873 3 ай бұрын
Can I weld any muffler vertically ?
@BILLSCHMIDT49
@BILLSCHMIDT49 Жыл бұрын
Do you install full stainless exhaust system?
@jkink8049
@jkink8049 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like a time I would’ve loved to live in
@Bill-dc3so
@Bill-dc3so 9 ай бұрын
Last longer why is that you didn’t explain why. I put my exhaust on my Escalade in 10 minutes whit clamp on never had a problem in fact now with everything welded if there’s a problem with any part now you need to replace the hole thing or cut the part off instead of two bolts an it pops out
@gearsnstuff7330
@gearsnstuff7330 9 ай бұрын
And heaven forbid you want to take the exhaust out for any reason, like so you can reuse it out after an engine/transmission swap. The factory isn't doing what's better, they're just doing what makes them more money on repairs, and is cheaper going down the assembly line. Hard to admit in the 21st century, but sometimes the old timers knew what they were doing.
@parkwehrley9088
@parkwehrley9088 11 ай бұрын
O seriously!!! good luck. if any engine makes it but a diesel now a days makes it more then 200.000 miles . is a serious miracle !
@rickchambers73
@rickchambers73 8 ай бұрын
Boy i remember i had a 66 Galaxie 427 duel.quads 4 speed 456 gears. With Cherry bombs off the collectors. Loud loud. Back in the 70s
@ghunt81
@ghunt81 2 ай бұрын
If you're talking the old guillotine style clamps, then yeah don't use those. But modern band clamps are awesome and actually let you take stuff apart later. I tend to switch out mufflers after awhile and band clamps make that super easy.
@RJ-lk5pj
@RJ-lk5pj Жыл бұрын
You need struts on your garage door sections..
@RJ-lk5pj
@RJ-lk5pj Жыл бұрын
Steer clear of the Kmart specials on auto repairs
@richardcook1480
@richardcook1480 7 ай бұрын
I have a 69 torino. Cherry Boomb since 1977 still on there. Blaa black sure been a long year
@benlalime8543
@benlalime8543 Жыл бұрын
What about the cross over pipe
@brandonstennes4931
@brandonstennes4931 9 ай бұрын
Was the pipe work done in house?.
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 9 ай бұрын
yes, this is our MPI Exhaust Kit this specific truck was a 5.3L Chevy
@JohnSmith-ty1vn
@JohnSmith-ty1vn 10 ай бұрын
I got a jon boat from monkeywards title is from the 70s.....thing still hits the lake every summer .joker is heavy buy built to last
@ryderhartmann2028
@ryderhartmann2028 11 ай бұрын
I never had a problem with a clamp
@Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb
@Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb 9 ай бұрын
I've never had a problem out of them either everybody always complains about exhaust u-bolts they'll never hold it will fall off but they never complain about the ones that hold their axle on.
@druumb2305
@druumb2305 8 ай бұрын
Man I put on 1 years at Meineke in the early 90s for &19.95.
@apachebill
@apachebill 7 ай бұрын
I got clamps on my 70 Lemans older than you are. 😂
@karrpilot7092
@karrpilot7092 9 ай бұрын
I got over 200K before the muffler went on my Pontiac. Then I had a shop weld on a Flow Master to the stock pipe.
@pacolapala
@pacolapala 7 ай бұрын
My jeep has a clamped muffler since 2001. Muffler is rusted out but clamps are holding tight… nothing wrong with owners clamping things… exhaust shops on the other hand need to weld. Thats what you’re getting paid to do.
@bookhamerfamily497
@bookhamerfamily497 2 ай бұрын
If it got 200 300k miles then i wouldnt need to be repairing it with ubolts and hose clamps now would I? Factory doesnt mean right
@moparfreak1969
@moparfreak1969 9 ай бұрын
Mine is clamped and cobbled. And it's going strong at two hundred and forty seven thousand 😮
@richardp3624
@richardp3624 Жыл бұрын
Bring on the stash!
@user-zt6ih5pp6d
@user-zt6ih5pp6d 7 ай бұрын
Truth
@ultimateormus7903
@ultimateormus7903 8 ай бұрын
I live in Arkansas and few people have mufflers, or they are almost all chopped off or dragging the ground. Mostly going to and from meth houses.
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 9 ай бұрын
In my experience were the muffler is welded will be the first to fail! I will never have another muffler welded on. Exhaust pipe is different
@kevincoulimbe3974
@kevincoulimbe3974 8 ай бұрын
Back in the old days of Muffler of the pipe the clam all came to maybe $10 today you're looking at $1,000 it better last a long time
@Jaseh5710
@Jaseh5710 7 ай бұрын
I just use clamps cause I’m too lazy to get out the welder
@robertduran1945
@robertduran1945 9 ай бұрын
I'm going to make an appointment at Kmart quality work 559 get er done😅😅
@MrMark1325
@MrMark1325 8 ай бұрын
The materials is probably a bigger reason than weld vs clamps. Old days everything rusted out and fell off.
@Firstlastname000
@Firstlastname000 7 ай бұрын
Clamps👍
@182turtel
@182turtel Жыл бұрын
Good luck with 300,000 out of new shit
@f.chrisliuzzo7889
@f.chrisliuzzo7889 11 ай бұрын
If it’s 400 series stainless you’ll get that many years! But in the rust belt maybe 10 yrs
@mopedwarehouse
@mopedwarehouse 3 ай бұрын
So you warranty all of your exhaust systems for 2 or 300,000 miles against rust??? You must do a lot of warranty work because those vertical muffflers are going to rot out way before that.
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question, With all new Emission systems having a higher operation temperature vs older 80-90's vehicles you wont every have a problem with.
@anthonyedwards1087
@anthonyedwards1087 8 ай бұрын
So you're implying that a welded muffler will last much longer than a clamped muffler? I can absolutely attest from personal experience that is 100% not true.
@frosttvy1154
@frosttvy1154 9 ай бұрын
Dude this guy looks like Steve Irwin wtf 😱
@andyb9994
@andyb9994 7 ай бұрын
Factory exhaust is the best....
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 7 ай бұрын
thank you for your question, so on a Hemi 5.7L, for example, we gain 30 TQ and 26 HP with a 3.7 MPG increase with our MPI Exhaust System. Just exhaust no tuning,
@ABeans07
@ABeans07 2 ай бұрын
VW Audi uses clamps OEM
@kaedyncopper12
@kaedyncopper12 7 ай бұрын
Never would it last that long here in the northeast,all the treatment put on the roads in the winter time. That slurry stuff they put down is awful,if you don't wash it off after every winter it eats metal like nothing. Stuff literally sticks to everything and leaves a coating on everything.
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question, we have many systems with those numbers in that area,
@bobrollans8460
@bobrollans8460 7 ай бұрын
How are you going to get 300k out of that exhaust system when that car doesn't have 300k left in it .
@repairmanjoe8081
@repairmanjoe8081 8 ай бұрын
That's all great if its stainless, but if you live in the rust belt, that system will NOT last no 2 or 300,000 miles! Welded or clamped. Guaranteed!
@master6435
@master6435 Жыл бұрын
Ahh what exhaust shop don't weld exhaust pipes...
@Dieselmd2008
@Dieselmd2008 8 ай бұрын
Factory exhaust is not welded there clamped
@NoName-tz5ji
@NoName-tz5ji 9 ай бұрын
It worked better and longer than you think kid
@user-og5cj4ik1h
@user-og5cj4ik1h 9 ай бұрын
Stainless maybe
@Star-fc4ni
@Star-fc4ni 8 ай бұрын
My dad would never buy a chevy ever!
@edwardb5501
@edwardb5501 Жыл бұрын
Yup I actually remember when Kmart used to do that.
@ansonwill1999
@ansonwill1999 2 күн бұрын
Not in Michigan
@Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb
@Rfgtghgfggfsfhlihb 9 ай бұрын
Just to let people know if AU bolt cannot hold your exhaust how come you can hold your axle on?
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 9 ай бұрын
howdy, thanks for your question, the axle doesn't see the same hot and cold cycles the exhaust does. Exhaust temperature reaches around 1250 Degrees at the hottest.
@kevinharms7578
@kevinharms7578 9 ай бұрын
Looks stainless.
@Randald
@Randald 10 ай бұрын
How much have you had to drink tonight?
@richardalletag1129
@richardalletag1129 Жыл бұрын
80.000
@CH-fh9hp
@CH-fh9hp 8 ай бұрын
Those two mufflers side by side like that are gonna catch and hold so much crap and rot out in a year or two
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 8 ай бұрын
Howdy, thanks you so much for you question. with our all MPI Mufflers we have never had that problem, all products are also backed with a 3 Year Warranty.
@Mike_hocksbig69
@Mike_hocksbig69 6 ай бұрын
My issue is every welded exhaust i’ve seen is full of boogers and splattered everywhere
@jdizzle340
@jdizzle340 9 ай бұрын
Garbage shops weld everything, now its not serviceable or removable for other work to be done. Always pie cut and use flat band clamps. And , no flowmaster will last that long, they rot out, especially if theyre the knock offs
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 9 ай бұрын
Howdy, with all our MPI Exhasut Technologies Series kits they will last that long,
@george420
@george420 3 ай бұрын
unless that's stainless steel. ain't no way you'll get over 200000miles.
@nicblizzard
@nicblizzard 7 ай бұрын
What about a car that will last that long
@2nd66tube2
@2nd66tube2 8 ай бұрын
not as a daily in the rust belt
@joeluisramirez
@joeluisramirez 9 ай бұрын
Montgomery wards auto center,,,,,it was more like $59ask me how i know
@jasonjaros1385
@jasonjaros1385 9 ай бұрын
Hangs so low. You should tie some rolor skates on it
@blackhorse7090
@blackhorse7090 8 ай бұрын
It’s cheaper for you to weld! Don’t BS folks
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 8 ай бұрын
Howdy thanks you so much for your question, the life of all exhaust system are longer Welded vs clamped, their is a zero percent chance of a weld leaking or becoming lost from heat/cool cycles vs clamps,
@1985FieroGT
@1985FieroGT 9 ай бұрын
Join the 20th century? I think you're of by 100 years, join the 21st century.
@calypso4396
@calypso4396 Жыл бұрын
2-300k miles huh? And it'll cost ya a months pay to get it
@dirtyaznstyle4156
@dirtyaznstyle4156 Жыл бұрын
The hole in the muffler after a year makes it sound racy
@mikeznel6048
@mikeznel6048 Жыл бұрын
That’s not a cheap auto zone made in india muffler out of old 55 gallon drums…
@renatoaraujo7383
@renatoaraujo7383 9 ай бұрын
Just wait you will have problems with welding those Mufflers together
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 9 ай бұрын
thanks for your question, when welded together they will last the entire life the the vehicle
@TraceyPruitt
@TraceyPruitt 10 ай бұрын
The install looks great! Please don't say those are Garbage Master Flow Junkster mufflers. If so, why would you drive something that sounds like your Grandpa farting? Keep up the pro looking install, just dump the FM brand!
@jonowens460
@jonowens460 9 ай бұрын
Flow Masters awful😂any of that sounds like shit. Thrush Turbo's❤ I work in a muffler shop and this is how we configure them too.😮
@dicktomasko1553
@dicktomasko1553 7 ай бұрын
Not in the salt 3 years
@ron8935
@ron8935 Жыл бұрын
But you won't get two or three hundred thousand out of the truck....
@skylararendt7074
@skylararendt7074 11 ай бұрын
American Crocodile Dundee
@rainey3303
@rainey3303 10 ай бұрын
Welding then is all good till you have to change the cat
@user-cb2rd1fz6o
@user-cb2rd1fz6o 7 ай бұрын
2 or 300k really. Everything sounded good till you said that bs
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your Questions, We have a good amount of customers who have reached those numbers, and we understand it is an uncommon number to hear, buts it's very common for an MPI Exhaust System,
@davewilliams8134
@davewilliams8134 9 ай бұрын
Who cares what you do or how you do it you say
@ronpeters9548
@ronpeters9548 7 ай бұрын
Sorry pal , but I can't agree with you .
@kalebborders4004
@kalebborders4004 8 ай бұрын
Factorys have always OEM welded them only shitty lil shops use clamp
@Brian-nl1ok
@Brian-nl1ok Жыл бұрын
2 200,000/300,000 miles …? Do you have any proof of this? Or is that just subjective guess.? Have you actually had any last that long as what I’m asking? Do you know the old saying… Trust, but verify…!
@mpiexhausttechnologies
@mpiexhausttechnologies Жыл бұрын
Yes many, one that we use almost everyday is 20 year and 380,000 mile✅
@dennisgreiwe2078
@dennisgreiwe2078 11 ай бұрын
@@boggindeepfuggum6916 probably not in the rust belt
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