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Savix is a god damn hero dude. Thanks for shouting him out Xaryu!

McConnell coming in and genuinely belly laughing at how bad that dude is just off 10 seconds of clicking his buttons was actually the best part of this video 😂

Savix is what this community needs.

It's one thing to be at a low point in your life - depression is a real thing many of us struggle with. It's another thing entirely to engage in sadistic, sociopathic behavior online because you think there will be zero consequences as you get your twisted laughs.

You know - I've watched Xar for a long time and it took me all this time to figure out how genuinely nice he is - It takes a lot, A LOT to feel empathy for someone like that guy in discord after the things he said (He said so much more bad stuff after xar skipped) and to genuinely say that "What we can all do is show some love to this man because clearly he is very very unhappy and sad" is really sad and shows a bunch to Xar's Character - because yes, you don't say the things that man says without having some pain, hurt, sorrow in your life and while I cannot empathize on the same level of xar here about the dude I can definitely understand that the discord guy needs some actual help. It's sad.

Ironically I think the griefers' fear of intimacy and male affection makes Xaryu's comments much more terrifying to them than Savix's return insults.

One of them even bragged about regularly beating up his wife... I hope someone looks into whether those claims were true or not, it's one thing to grief online but abusing your wife is next level, actual psycho

I listened to the full discord chat on Savix's video. Absolutely unbelievable to hear adult men speak like that. I agree Xaryu, it's hard to not feel pity for them and I hope they get the help they desperately need

really respect Savix for this, Toxicity is a cancer to the gaming community and manifests in many ways, Sav seems to understand that and is able to see where he can combat it

One of the scariest things about the internet is that empowers small groups of people like this. One griefer finds 20 other griefers to celebrate griefing with (while joking about killing people IRL) and suddenly the behaviour is normalized for them. Now they're even more motivated to continue their behaviour...

savix has death in his eyes the whole video, and i like it

My lvl 31 warrior got griefed in Hillsbrad as well by a 60 hunter on EU. I really appreciate all the admins working on the appeals as I was recording and got my character back. They the real mvps and the reason im enjoying myself so much Playing hardcore wow. I'm working and and 30 I don't have time to keep deleting characters because of a giref.

I'm not a sensitive person in any way, and it takes a lot to make me feel genuinely revolted, but that discord convo absolutely made me sick to hear. I don't understand how you get to that age and still conduct yourself that way. These little guys are the kind that should be on irl watchlists, major violent incel energy and we know how that can end. I appreciate your compassion Xar, but I just can't find any for those people

Nah Sav is going deservedly hard. As someone who has struggled with mental health my entire life. I do agree with your statement about they are at their lowest point, but that doesn't excuse being a trash human.

Savix what a chad

I think I’m in love with this man. Hopefully griefer issues will find a conclusion some day.

I fucking loved seeing Savix being a chad against toxic asshole griefers it's so satisfying

Xaryu and Savix both making the community a better place, love it! Laughed a lot in this one.

Xaryu saying to show the griefer some love is more of a burn than savix insulting him lmao

The thing people are overlooking is that even without appeals, all these terrible griefers would be long dead before they hit 60. How many clips have we seen where they choke while trying to kite a mob and die... their character would be dead. So while I think it's a good idea for Blizzard to implement further ways to combat the griefing on official servers, the general rule of losing your character when you die will weed out 99% of it as seen by how terrible these guys actually are at the game.

Bro big love and amazing to see your empathy levels

That clicking part really got me.

The compassion this streamer guy shows makes me want to caress his samurai hair and tell him he is doing alright.

When I grow up I want to be a real man like Xaryu.

I'm not 100% on this but if you ever played on RetroWoW before classic was released back in 2019 I'm pretty sure YOU taught me how to play a mage on there. Sincerely Porksword/Fleshjavelin from RetroWoW! Glad to see you on Hardcore and providing amazing content!

-Trying to make others look like fools. -Proceed to fail at clicking a gouge. -Painful

Savix is Savage af! I loved it!

Never grief a rank 14 rogue 😆

I personally think the appeal rules are needed, because wow wasn't designed for hardcore in mind so some additional things were needed to put in place by addon developer to get griefing deaths and DCs for example appealable.

If i start my morning with Greifing its just to know an ally logget out and probably just wiped until he had to go to work XD it makes me smile

i fell from a double bed , on a pile of Lego's once , i still have the scars from it, those things are evil when not properly cleaned up after use man.

If someone griefs once, shame by me, if someone griefes twice, he should be perma banned, not just 30 days. Simple as that.

I love your views on compassion

Xaryu is is that kind of guy, that I would be proud to call a friend.

how do they do that? and how to spot they are up to it?

I witnessed that guy gathering up all the kolbolt miners and deagros them and its just a horde of miners like 20 of them running threw the cave

Can someone tell me how to gt started on this classic HC? I googled but it seemed to take me to some private servers? Not sure if that is the one everyone is playing on or how to get to the servers most people are playing at

Savix is an IRL Rétribution Paladin! SAVIX THE LIGTH BRINGER

Brutality! Some Khan genes comming up :D

2 good fixes could be: 1) No proxemity aggro 2) Toggle pvp on not just attack someone who is pvp flagged

Who is really surprised that the griefers avoid PvP-servers mainly because on PvP-servers people can fight back, and they can't even win a duel as level 19 vs lvl 11s in an open-world combat environment.

I would not grief myself, but hardcore spirit is that you know at some point you are going down. Its about the achievement of how far you get. Anything in the game goes. Even if it is unfair or unfortunate. As that is the achievement.

A death is a death, absolutely and obviously. Many people delete even for an appealable death, and 100% of people playing understand that deaths from DCs and griefers are exceptions to death=delete, but they're still deaths. Exceptions are necessary until Blizzard takes action, since at this point the community has done everything else in its power to fix the other issues/limits and advance the state of play to this point (which is pretty amazing imo). I only bring this up because you're more likely to get results from blizzard if the community as a whole feels frustrated at not being able to say honestly that death=delete, as opposed to justifying it or defending the appeals process as being necessary just because that's the way things are.

Xar got that Damian Wayne look going on right now

Savix GIGACHAD! Petition to gm-drop em all into the maelstrom in the centre of the map

Xaryu don't know about Payo poggers in a chat

Wait, so there's no appeals in HC for anyone but for the big streamers? Man, and they say it's just the game and doesn't represent real life. Also it's very easy to not be a griefer and understand why this can infuriate normal players as well: 1. The motto (the law) of this whole challenge is "DEATH=DELETE" 2. Select few get to evade the law for "the greater good" (their streams sake), but you, a normal player or a small streamer, don't 3. ???? 4. PROFIT! Not to mention that 2 minutes before the "there's no way to evade these mechanics" rant we witnessed Savix evading these mechanics 4 times in a row and even having time to chat-troll the attempted griefer. But even if there were none, so there's no way to avoid other mechanics in game too that aren't griefing, but these deaths don't (and shouldn't) get appealed under the motto death=delete. And finally, I'm not saying that death appeals for streamers should be abolished asap. It is what it is. Indeed griefers have unfair advantage of seeing location and they can target people in mass making their experience bad. But just maybe don't act like this is a form of necessity and justice. It's a convenience tool. Accept that it's a bit shitty that things work only for select people and don't for others, that it's a bit unfair, but it is what it is. Xaryu seems to be cool guy who doesn't enjoy putting other people down so no hard feelings from my side. But man.

lmfao the clicking kills me, especially Gouge being on number 4 and he still can't even press 4, dude must have some microscopic hands.

ngl. savix looking mint with the little beard action

Xaryu. were frickn dopple ganggers bro. not to mention my mains a mage too

But the kind of attention savix is giving them is what they don't want. He's beating them. They want to see tears. As long as you aren't crying and are owning them its a win.

your laughs to his reactions at the beginning made my day lol

How do u play this HC mode?

That Gotic guy has some serious mental health issues and needs a perma ban from both Discord and Blizzard services...

Is everyone playing on classic era or tbc servers for bloodsail bucs?

this is the best moment in fact, seeing someone who bullies others , thinking he is such a chad, to community and blizzard looking at them with clear sign they're complete losers.

lets be honest only ppl getting banned will be those who grief streamers. The overwhelming majority (non streamers) will get absolutely nothing done about it and you will just have to suck it up. This is the main reason i won't even attempt playing a hardcore mode.

Huge W for the WoW community. Savix is the best.

Super funny to see the chat, feels like about 10 people who don’t even play HC deciding that a ban appeal isn’t in the spirit of HC

well deserved bans for sure. i mean isn't the whole point of the hardcore challenge that you test yourself ''can i do this?'' griefing is something thats out of your control, its obviously not how the game is intended to be played like.

Lol xaryu with the empathy

What is the fix around this if it happens when/if blizzard release legit hardcore servers? Yeah the person griefing gets banned, but what happens to your char after death? Would it have to have a similar appeal process like the addon? Also, say you die from disconnect or server crash? How would you be able to continue?

Can they not just make it so you cannot transfer from another realm? As well as having the bans for griefing. That way you would both be risking your account plus you would need to spend all that time leveling a hardcore character to do so anyway.

What the fuch is that dragon chasing him?

bro savix's 16:9 eye ratio.. bro looks mad high

apex player little timmy : u talking about me ?

Beat hate with love. Great commentary there ~15 minute point

I think Savix was able to out play the Greifers.

Finally, some actions taken

Imma say it again Savix with this beard looke so regal like a feudal lord

Lmao love Savix

only content creators get that help... i have tried for 10 years, no answers!

Whomever thinks Savix is 'going in too hard' on the griefers hasn't played enough, needs another cup of coffee.

0:18 Is it because you have the same facial hair lol?

This is nothing compared to burning expansion leveling on a pvp sever back in a day , getting camped by a high level rogue when your level 15

Some saying savix went too far? Hell nah. He didnt go far enough. I was griefed on a lowbie yesterday and i was extremely upset. I couldnt even imagine what it would feel like to lose a char at high or max levels

The new Asmongold

This just bought Savix another sub! Never seen the dudes stuff before!

It's usually 300 lb'ers living in with their mom with no job, no friends, and no life who go griefing since they have nothing to live for but wow.

Honestly, the "percentage of men who want to watch the world burn" are part of the ecosystem and they generate content and interest. Them getting banned is also part of this holistic system that mirrors life.

I love this. WPvP is my favorite part of the game and while I do gank a lot, I wouldn’t consider myself a greifer. I don’t want to just ruins someone’s experience on the game, that’s such a loser thing to do.

That Discord talk was some disturbing stuff. These are demented people. I feel like stuff like that greatly increases your chances of being a mass murderer or something.

How do you call that facial hair

I’ve never seen sav so mad 😂😂😂😂😂 like never he started working out and don’t give a fuck

perfect!

"Don't give them reactions like this, that's what they want!" -proceeds to make a 20 minute video giving them exactly that. 🤣

Are these pvp servers??

Honestly, egg em on then report them all and get their main accounts banned, and those real life threats should get you banned and then charged IRL

savix is doing what needs to be done

No appeals in official server can’t wait

Hey Xar, How is this such a big problem though, as you can just appeal the deaths? Am I missing something? All the best man

Xaryu is angelic

To be fair to Savix, he did justify why he was "going so hard" by exposing them in their discord. Probably a wise move skipping that part though Nice video mate

If there are official hc servers, wouldnt griefers be risking death?

Surprise surprise, the scumbags in-game are scumbags in real life. 13:00

Savix went just as hard and as long as he needed. Full retribution paladin shining his holy light on the community.

Unpopular opinion: Griefing in proper dosages is healthy for a game. It creates conflict and conflict creates drama, and everyone knows how drama creates views. Blizzard profits off of views.

I love Savix, between you Pika and him yall are my favs

Hardcore Classic players would faint when they found out Hardcore OSRS doesn't have any appeal, and sometimes servers lag/you dc (alot more often then WoW), and being a max level in OSRS is like 5k+ hours of straight grinding, plus all the quests/boss farming/achievment diaries you're looking at losing like 8k hours of progress for a maxed account with endgame gear