A long Vacant Home Burns. Filmed by James Ayala Proud Father of A NYC firefighter 710 East 180th Street Bx, NY 10457 / jamesayalaphotography
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@FFDGFDOFD4 жыл бұрын
They’re saving Water like it’s California....
@mhenhawke50932 жыл бұрын
7 minuets in, the fire is almost out, and not a drop of water has hit it yet. Im impressed.
@joegaito702 Жыл бұрын
Fdny your service is deeply appreciated thanks to everyone who responds keep them safe even in the bronx ny keep them safe out there way to go appreciate you guys thanks job well done you should be proud ! Joe
@texasboy51173 жыл бұрын
I’m firmly convinced American Firemen are trained in “ let burn for five minutes before applying water”. It’s this way in 75% of these types of videos.
@mhenhawke50932 жыл бұрын
That is so true, iv'e watched thousands of fires and its like, not yet Bill, the internal temperature hasn't reached 18.6 thousand degree's yet. Holy shit Bob, good call ! what was i thinking? Or sorry mam, cant go in for the children yet, the upstairs windows haven't blown out yet. But what about little Jimmy upstairs? Sorry mam rules are rules. Lol. M.
@jameshosford9824 Жыл бұрын
You people are a disgrace. These are city firefighters. This is my dad’s company. They fight fires from the inside out. If there was anyone in there that would have been the first thing they did was go right into the building. These guys are the best in the business
@texasboy5117 Жыл бұрын
@@jameshosford9824 Sorry you’re upset. But the fact is almost all fires on KZfaq show no water on the fire for several minutes after the firefighters show up. There is also a lot of fat overweight guys who always seem to run around pulling hoses and doing very little. Don’t get upset, I’m reporting what is shown on the videos.
@walters494 жыл бұрын
Seems that it took awhile to get water on the fire.
@SpadesWinner4 жыл бұрын
They get paid by the hour....no rush until it's time to clock out.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
@@SpadesWinner Please tell us when "first water" was applied to this fire and how you were able to determine that? Thank you. I look forward to your reply....
@m4yd1e864 жыл бұрын
Walters49, ladder was waiting for interior attack crew to back off. The ladder attack could cause a collapse and that would have been onto the heads of the interior crew.
@marshalltucker66204 жыл бұрын
@@m4yd1e86 I don't believe that. No lines going into the building from where engines were. The color of the smoke gave no indication water was being applied. It was fully engulfed when the video started at scene. So it was going awhile. At 9:46 first water applied. Way too many men and equipment on scene. And way too little work. I give that crew a D.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
@@marshalltucker6620 First water @ 9:46? Oh? Tell me what you see on the #2 side of the building @ 3:12? Looks like water from a hand line, no? From the camera's vantage point we are not able to see the crew that operating it, nor do we have any way of knowing exactly when that line was put into operation, now do we? I wonder why they stretched a line there? Could it be that they saw something that you can't see from viewing the video? There was a 2nd hand line stretched before the TL pipe was put into operation as well, wasn't there? Perhaps it was stretched because the Truck members were gaining access to the storefront, presumably to check for possible squatters, or those who started the fire and to check for possible fire extension. Do you think it's prudent to operate the TL pipe which places anywhere from 4 to 6 tons of water per minute into a building with members inside? Finally, do you think had the units operated differently (i.e., put the TL pipe into operation sooner) that the eventual outcome would have been materially different and that this building could have been saved?
@joegaito702 Жыл бұрын
Good job and responding fdny your service is deeply appreciated thanks to everyone who responds keep them safe out there job well done you should be proud ! Joe
@Igloo34714 жыл бұрын
Love the old vintage sign on the front. Looking at Google maps it appears that building (710) has long been abandoned and in irreparable shape covered with cladding that is falling off. I noticed that the building that was originally on the left of that at 712 was in a similar condition and had been demolished prior to this blaze. Maybe developers looking to build there...
@lsachs074 жыл бұрын
This was a storefront and living space. It has been vacant for at least 19 years. The store front was a TV repair shop that was also a mom and pop applience store with living space on the second floor which is also the floor that burned down today.
@chrisjct4 жыл бұрын
Yea it closed back in the 90s so it's been more than 20 years it's been closed now
@bsr15x4 жыл бұрын
The saw you hear appears to be them trying to access the store. Crotona TV. The lot has a narrow driveway on it.
@clarkclarke4 жыл бұрын
Just glad the fire didn't go towards the dry cleaners .
@WitchidWitchid4 жыл бұрын
Too bad it burned. I find old buildings that have been vacant for a long time.to be very interesting. They are like time capsules often housing forgotten relics of the past.
@RenKnight347 Жыл бұрын
Good possibility that the building had squatters.
@wolfpacva4 жыл бұрын
all those ladder trucks and not one drop of water being put on the fire for almost 10 minutes
@TheKMG3654 жыл бұрын
I call bullshit. Water clearly visible at 3:12.
@terryburgess65684 жыл бұрын
ladder58 was on the scene before filming started
@gort400 Жыл бұрын
Tower Ladder completely knocked the fore down in 1.5 min. Fully involved to blacked out. Nice work!
@ruthanneluvsvacuuming66538 күн бұрын
I have no clue what it is but there’s got to be a better way to build buildings and to fight fires when they occur. That building was raging before they even got there ❣️ I hope they put everyone’s safety first 🥰
@redsuperduty14 жыл бұрын
10 more minutes and the fire would it put itself out.. LOL
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
And how many working structure fires have you fought?? Or are you a armchair Monday morning critic??
@engineer52134 жыл бұрын
S. Michael DeHart aka WVUmounties8 100+... The structure was made more compromised by letting the fire burn longer. First in engine should have hit it withe a 2 1/2 from the exterior while the second in caught the plug. The tower could have been flown a little sooner
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
@@engineer5213 Do you sincerely believe that such action would have prevented the building from incurring structural damage to the extent that Dept. of Buildings would not issue a forthwith demolition order to the owners at the conclusion of fire operations?
@RockBrigadeCommunityForum4 жыл бұрын
@@SMichaelDeHart total armchair warrior
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
@@RockBrigadeCommunityForum go back to your rock bands and let the experts discuss fire ground tactics.
@citystreets78714 жыл бұрын
Great footage !
@andrewharre76634 жыл бұрын
These firefighters have done a great job
@hegot2414 жыл бұрын
If they moved any slower,moss would grow on their shaded side!
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
And how many working structure fires have you fought?? Or are you a armchair Monday morning critic??
@Acepilot2354 жыл бұрын
@@SMichaelDeHart Copying and pasting the same reply makes you look stupid btw..
@axelfh67104 жыл бұрын
S. Michael DeHart aka WVUmounties8 Dude im a Firefighter in Germany for more than 15 years. I faught a lot. And these guys are SLOW AS FUCK
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
@@axelfh6710 well, good for you. I have over 26yrs in the Fire service. I'm an IFSTA and NFA certified instructor. European fire service does thing a bit different. But, your entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is. As they say, opinions are like a##holes, everybody's got one.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
Axel Fh Well you guys in Germany have more experience with exterior operations. But that's perfectly understandable with a fire service that is 97% volunteer and only 3% are professionals.
@Laura-re9ye Жыл бұрын
People want to be critical of our first responders. Let me tell you something. First of all, if someone was in that building, do you think that they wouldn't have risked their own lives to try to get to a person in there? Second, apparently no one was in there. No one was hurt, no one is dead. That's all that matters. Some critics are worried about an old structure that obviously should have been torn down years ago. Stop criticizing!!! 😡 Could anyone of you do a better job than a firefighter??! If not, give them the respect they deserve!
@chrisbarr13594 жыл бұрын
Advanced fire in a vacant commercial. Seems like a job for the tower ladders.
@fdMT_EnGy2 жыл бұрын
It was. No entry was made for a couple reasons.
@Biffo12624 жыл бұрын
Vacant does not mean empty! Never, ever presume an officially unoccupied building has no-one inside especially in the current periods of austerity.
@Kylehikes474 жыл бұрын
they are firemen, they never assume, but when you roll up seeing as it was absolutely ripping on arrival, its a no go situation sadly.
@DaleDix4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@fdMT_EnGy2 жыл бұрын
If you notice the paint mark on the exterior wall above the door that was locked up tight from the outside, that being the reason they had to rip the whole thing off its hinges. It was empty.
@MrMoodymaniac2 жыл бұрын
wow...over 15 minutes before any water was put on the fire from what I could see.......just, wow........
@fdMT_EnGy2 жыл бұрын
Water was applied within 3 minutes of arrival. Look at the 1,2 corner and you'll see the white. Nozzle is out of view and blocked by the rig, but the white indicates water being applied.
@Veronicat-of4nz19 күн бұрын
With those many men they could have made an old fashioned bucket chain from a neighbouring building while waiting for the water hoses…
@preciousnic19744 жыл бұрын
This is the New York Fire Department? More than eight fire trucks on scene, more than 40 fire fighters on scene and a whole bunch of medical stretchers on scene but not one drop of water on the fire? A whole bunch of firefighters carrying axes, picks and other equipment but not using them? That fire should have been attacked from above immediately. There are several trucks with water cannons and ladder trucks with nozzles that should have been used. They used one ladder truck to put firefighters on the roof? No sense in wasting that truck when there are ladders that they can use to climb on the roofs. Every firefighter looks confused as if they have never been on a real fire before. The Fire Chief was worthless for setting up his/her command to attack the fire. There needs to be some INTENSE discipline and retraining on how to fight a fire. A total waste of resources and depleting resources from other parts of the city. Shameful....
@popswhippersnapper96294 жыл бұрын
You are so right. Once the water hit the fire it was under control. All those hydrants around and slow water to the ladder pipe?? Why?
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
What makes you an authority on fire operations?
@Reese_NY4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I've been noticing that on all the fire videos I've been seeings. They take their time to shoot some water, by the time they do it, the place is burned up.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
@@Reese_NY Oh? In that case, I have two questions for you: #1. At what point was "first water" placed on this fire. #2. How were you able to determine that from this video? I look forward to your reply. Thank you.
@moanamoon84924 жыл бұрын
@@azul8811 Common sense goes a long way.
@robertmccabe29934 жыл бұрын
Taking a Long time to get water on that fire
@be55754 жыл бұрын
Yeah you tell them cowboy 😂 you have know fuckin clue
@terrymartin68924 жыл бұрын
Robert-- I agree,with the eng right next to the tower ladder.
@kenmeinken81154 жыл бұрын
Not even protecting exposures as far as I could see.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
@@kenmeinken8115 What do you see at the 3:12 mark.. somewhere in the vicinity of the 2-3 corner?
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
@@terrymartin6892 It appears that a handline was placed into operation first. At what point, we don't know, but we can very briefly see water around the 3:12 mark in the vicinity of the 2-3 corner exposure. Typically the FDNY dedicates a separate Engine Co. to supply each TL. Therefore the Engine supplying the TL would have to secure it's own hydrant, and since hydrants are typically spaced 250' apart in NYC the supplying Engine may not necessarily be "right next to the tower ladder" as you suggest. Anyway, my question to you is...based on this video how is anyone able to determine when "first water" was actually placed on this fire?
@johnnybravoBoyah4 жыл бұрын
They like turtles 🤔 now look at upper building a blaze And why what looks like 20 trucks and 200 firemen on scene just curious I'm all about DFD so I do love all fire fighters
@garyhargrove27624 жыл бұрын
I love the way ppl love to judge the biggest & busiest fire department in the US. Half you ppl never even been to NYC but ya think you know everything about the FDNY & their protocols. Why the hell are you gonna risk your firefighters getting hurt or killed on a vacant building? I was born and raised in the Bronx during the War Years when stuff really hit the fan. The FDNY always had the man power & it will never change this is how they operate so that will never change. The FDNY has handled certain situations in different ways maybe some of you ppl should visit the rock or HQ & ask questions about why they handle things differently from other departments. I’m sure they’ll be glad to explain everyone needs to understand NYC is a different animal compared to other cities. I live near the city of Columbus in Ohio I can tell you they operate a lot differently but they do it according to their city. So stop judging & visit the City of New York you will see the different landscapes or structures these firefighters deal with daily.
@RIKU-MKE4 жыл бұрын
I don't live in NYC but I do know that the FDNY is the BEST and probably the most experienced department in the world. They know exactly what they are doing. People who want to trash them are just jealous.
@garystewart23504 жыл бұрын
Should not take 10 minutes to start putting water on any fire! If they had started an immediate aerial fire attack it would have been knocked. Tremendous waste of manpower with dozens of firefighters just standing around. Your tax dollars at work New York.
@garyhargrove27624 жыл бұрын
gary stewart you’re talking about a city with 8 million ppl & over 15,000 firefighters & paramedics combined. So they need all the manpower they can get. Not to mention other departments would kill to have that kinda manpower. If they say otherwise they’re lying their ass off. I guess the NYPD with over 50,000 police officers is a waste of manpower also with a population that big.
@johnnybravoBoyah4 жыл бұрын
Detroit DFD is best in the nation Busiest too. Fyi 🙂
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnybravoBoyah no they're not!! DFD is good department, but they're severely undermanned, piss poor equipment that is falling apart and a city administration that sh#ts all over them. They're houses are falling apart as well. I've been to the FDIC with several DFD FF's and have heard it straight from the horse's mouth. Also, Detroit is 143sq mi. and NYC is 302sq mi. It's twic3 as big.
@Brian135494 жыл бұрын
Just because you can't see water flowing doesn't mean it's not
@zkman17624 жыл бұрын
Definitely not station 51, Chet, Marco get a inch and a half, sprinting to get water on it. Nice video though !
@edwintickner49574 жыл бұрын
No rush to put water on the fire. Most stand around watching as usual. Lets cut the gate for practice, we need plenty of it.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
A. When was "first water" applied to this fire? B. And how can you determine that from this video? C. Had they operated differently, do you feel this building could have been rehabilitated instead of being demolished?
@jimewen196814 жыл бұрын
That building was suffering from the Coronavirus. The name on the front of the building was just misspelled. It was where they had the Coronavirus. Lol. I know it actually says Crotona TV. lol.
@ericfisher15034 жыл бұрын
Coffee and doughnuts anyone......
@alexanderloadsmanthefirebu37534 жыл бұрын
That is so cool great video
@abbottcooper32434 жыл бұрын
It is so frustrating sometimes waiting for them to make a decision regarding internal vs. external attack. To me, they should have realized that the structure was so fully involved that they needed to get water on the upper level. The supplying engine was fully connected and just waiting and waiting. That tower bucket should have been deployed sooner.
@johnnybravoBoyah4 жыл бұрын
And why like 243 fireman it looks like lol on scene 🤔
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
And how many working structure fires have you fought?? Or are you a armchair Monday morning critic??
@abbottcooper32434 жыл бұрын
@@SMichaelDeHart Don't mean I'm wrong.
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
@@abbottcooper3243 yea, it does. Are you familiar with fire ground operations, interior attack procedures, ladder company operations and firefighter safety and survival procedures?? Have you ever directed fireground operations on the scene of a working structure fire? Again, you're a civilian that is making incorrect assumptions and playing Monday morning armchair quarterback.
@josvervoort19044 жыл бұрын
@@SMichaelDeHart Still takes some time before ample water is put on the fire.
@Mountchoirboy4 жыл бұрын
I think they wanted it to burn so it would not be a hazard to tear down. As long as it was vacant and not a threat to other structures. Just a guess because they were mad slow
@slom424 жыл бұрын
There is a building on the left of the fire building on the video looks like new construction probably needs a parking lot
@clarkclarke4 жыл бұрын
It's not new.....has been like that for years ...
@peterburton31474 жыл бұрын
I saw a few drops of water at 3.12, but no frontal attack until about 10 mins.. I wonder why?
@johanrebel4 жыл бұрын
Probably because in NYC 90% of the FFs are only there to watch or form helmeted chat groups. They easily outnumber civilian gawkers ten to one.
@TheDrummie14 жыл бұрын
@@johanrebel they have to wait until the Truckies get their photoshoot over.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
1. From the vantage point of this video, we are not able to see what the most severely exposed property was, correct? However, I think it's a fair to assume that's where the line was positioned. 2. Just because we first see evidence of a handline being operated at the 3:12 mark, doesn't necessarily mean that it wasn't in operation before that point in time, does it? 3. The FDNY dedicates a separate Engine Company to supply each Tower Ladder stream; therefore, the 1st Due Engine supplying the handline will not be used to supply a Tower Ladder as well. Another Engine Co. is assigned that task. 4. Each Engine must secure their own hydrant. Hydrants are often 250' apart. Therefore the supplying Engine might be 250' from the TL. 5. You will notice that Truck members made entry into the structure to search for life and for extension. One TL stream operating @1000 GMP will place 4 TONS of water a MINUTE (at a minimum) into this dilapidated building thus compromising its structural stability. It is prudent that no one is inside when putting the pipe into operation. 6. IDK how the eventual outcome of this fire would be materially different had they operated otherwise. There were MANY vacant building fires throughout the 5 Boroughs of NYC in the 1970's and 1980's , and a lot of guys were getting seriously hurt. Some injuries were career ending. The FDNY even published a special bulletin to deal with the tactics & procedures that should be taken at such fires. They wanted to drum into everyone's head to slow it down a bit because the main life hazard was that of the firefighter. I hope that you find this information helpful.
@Big-O434 жыл бұрын
@@azul8811 Great post
@peterburton31474 жыл бұрын
@@azul8811 Thanks for the reply. Me not being a firefighter, and not living in the US, your reply made a lot of sense. Cheers!
@looneylenny874 жыл бұрын
Wow! 30 firefighters watching, 10 minutes to get the water flowing, to beat it down.
@johndaly98434 жыл бұрын
Looks like the city approved a demo permit for the structure last may. After the fire now they'll be ready to build !.
@rayphillips92664 жыл бұрын
No rush lads, were off in 20 minutes !!
@SMichaelDeHart4 жыл бұрын
And how many working structure fires have you fought?? Or are you a armchair Monday morning critic??
@smedleybutler19694 жыл бұрын
The Brothers did a great job as usual,Fire went out, a good search was made and nobody got hurt! I am getting a little sick of the know nothing armchair warriors in the comment section that think a fire is the same as a Hollywood movie script that has to be put out in 10 minutes before the commercial break!
@marshalltucker66204 жыл бұрын
35 years in the fire service..I give them a D. A waste of resources. Waste of manpower. And I appreciate the NYFD. Just not their finest hour.
@fdMT_EnGy2 жыл бұрын
@Marshall Tucker 35 years somewhere with different protocols based on different situations and possible changing situations because of illegal interior structure changes. There's a reason what and how many of what is there. Learn their protocols first before judging. 35 years, you should notice something in the video that changes urgency for safety reasons. Something regarding the building and something noticed with the building by a ff on the ground leading him to tell the roof crew to back off.
@fdMT_EnGy2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember if any searches were done. If there was, shame on whoever ordered them... Theres something that they should have noticed and not make the call to conduct searches.
@aportman582 жыл бұрын
Need to speak for yourself bud...i have 30 years as a career (retired) and volunteer firefighting (captain). Some videos speak for themselves as how urgent or non-urgent firefighters move, time apparatus arrive on location and then the time it takes to get water actively on the fire. FDNY is a unique fire department in that they have 100 firefighters and 20 pieces of equipment dispatched on a commercial box alarm, often becoming so saturated they walk to keep from running over each other. FDNY has such a history in NYC, which has been built, lost, and built back over the last 200 years that they may not be viewed as negative with opinions as do the majority of other (non-FDNY) departments across the nation. Outside of FDNY, CFD, LAPD, HFD fire departments, majority of the others through social media are daily scrutinized, sliced and diced, complaints to the chief by on-lookers who form very quick opinions only after watching for 30 seconds to 2 minutes. Opinions are formed (positive or negative) and which are retained possibly for a lifetime. With many city-county fire departments are cutting budgets, closing stations, down-grading services, decrease personnel, rotating brown-outs.black-outs, etc., we really need to think about what kind of actions we are taking on the fireground that portrays a positive image and opinion of the fire services in the community--those that actually pay our salaries and benefit packages through taxes. NYC (FDNY) is the richest city in the world and with 15,000 uniformed firefighters ($1Billion annual budget) protecting the Gatway to America, our World Banking Systems, they're not worried or concerned with the millions of people that passes them daily having bad opinions or bad media press. For you and me in our cities with 6 or 7 stations covering 130,000 or so population, negative opinions, negative press/media can destroy our departments. No, I not an armchair firefighter, I have fought more small, medium, large, mega-large fires, made more rescues, and fought more major chemical fires than you want to challenge me on. But it's all about perception from those that do not know a thing about the fire service that we had better be listening too!
@Laura-re9ye Жыл бұрын
Our first responders are angels, risking their lives for ours and these nauseating comments are not respectable to them. Why is that allowed on here?!
@paulthackeray24934 жыл бұрын
all full respect to these guys and girls super smooth operation and that goes for all fire departments world wide brave people doing a great job paul great Britain ….
@axelfh67104 жыл бұрын
Im fighting fires for more than 15 years now. So im allowed to say, that these Guys are SLOW AS FUCK. It makes me mad
@skigore693 жыл бұрын
It’s a well known vacant dumbass. Been there plenty of times. No life hazard other than the guys. You don’t need to rush around like a chicken with your head cut off to get the job done. Perhaps in your fifteen years you haven’t worked in quite as busy of an area.
@timothyholman13252 жыл бұрын
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Settle down junior. Nothing is worth a life. Love it when junior fire truck riders Monday morning quarterback. Ret fire/pm. 30 years on the job.
@thenussbaum444 жыл бұрын
No shortage of manpower at the FDNY.
@philepstein5244 жыл бұрын
It's a small fire and it's nice to get out of the boring station once in a while, even if just to stand around. Fire is no big deal, no exposures threatened. Big hurry to put it out and go back and sit around the rest of the shift.
@shitshitnotimportant4 жыл бұрын
@@philepstein524 Its the FDNY, they do about 1.8 million calls a years (5,000 calls a day). There not doing much sitting around lol
@BIGDROC994 жыл бұрын
Phil Epstein Not much sitting around. These company’s run their balls off
@johnnybravoBoyah4 жыл бұрын
Detroit is nations best and busiest But 🤔 looked like 100 men and 20 trucks there lol for the call run' stat sheet too now
@m4yd1e864 жыл бұрын
The comments about the ladder waiting for the interior crew to back off so they didn't accidentally drop a building on their heads appears to be from people who think they have some idea how fire fighting actually works. Interior attack > exterior attack. When interior operations have to cease due to deterioration of conditions, the fire switches from an offensive (interior) to defensive (exterior) operation.
@mhenhawke50932 жыл бұрын
Im a couch fire fighter, and im pretty good at it. Haven't lost a man yet.
@LM-sc8lu4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I must have missed why 100 (-+) firefighters from one of the best Fire Departments in the world are just milling around while the building burns. Are they firefighters, or witnesses?
@RockBrigadeCommunityForum4 жыл бұрын
they do what they are told and i'm assuming the structure was too hot and unsafe until it was out.
@edwardtosten89104 жыл бұрын
L M idiots
@bsr15x4 жыл бұрын
The additional crews are relief for the companies that are currently operating. The FDNY has the resources to put men and equipment at the location.
@clarkclarke4 жыл бұрын
@@edwardtosten8910 well I hope you never need firemen .....please don't have a fire cause you'll have to call the idiots ...you idiot ...
@clarkclarke4 жыл бұрын
@@bsr15x plus I think a lot of this went into play after Sep 11..
@rossreid3174 жыл бұрын
Why does it take so long to get water on the fire
@josephbennett34824 жыл бұрын
Because certain firefighters have certain duties that they perform and in a city the size of NY hydrants are in areas where it is difficult to get immediate access because of incoming apparatus or other vehicles in the way. The engineer and officers are the ones that usually setup water connection then the nozzlemen take over after they establish connection , not all of the men are able to touch the hose because of not being trained on hose work some are search and rescue men only and others are fireground crew's that retrieve ladders or hoses then there's a lot that are staging teams for whenever the first team has to switch out and those guys that are in staging can't do anything until they are needed or instructed by the Incident Command.
@chrisjct4 жыл бұрын
No rush to do that it's vacant and they opened it up first water on and knocked down in about 6 mins only the upper floor was on
@jackh5774 жыл бұрын
@@josephbennett3482 Every one has their own responsibility for sure, but every FF on FDNY is trained and very qualified to stretch a house line.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
Tell us: a) what point in time was "first water" placed on the fire? and b) how can you tell?
@JB917104 жыл бұрын
@@azul8811 a) Tell us when they SHOULD have placed water on the Visible Burning Material. You sure do like to guess and ask other people to guess. Don't you have the ability to actually deduce what you can actually see and imagine based on your ability to Think?
@salc87243 жыл бұрын
Let’s clarify something here. This building that went up was a vacant. For those whom said that it was someone’s house.. maybe for a squatter it was. Next, if you don’t fight fire.. don’t pass comments on how they operate. You keyboard warriors wouldn’t last 5 minutes on the job.
@OfficerLarryNMSE4 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to get rid of a squatters paradise is to just let it burn down this time...
@damn44384 жыл бұрын
I watched that happen from school. Walked into school it is going to be a great next thing I know I walk into a fire a street away
@davidcarroll8294 ай бұрын
New question I haven't asked anywhere else. Why send a ladder up with no hose attached with nozzle to aim it from ground. Or at least haul a few ground lines up to take firemen to upper floors and roof ?
@davidcarroll8294 ай бұрын
I do love your videos but get frustrated when seeing manpower not being used fully !
@brendanbeggs1184 жыл бұрын
Wow complete overkill but not unusual from the Hollywood American firefighters. Real urgency displayed great job.....
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
Brendan Beggs What country do you hail from?
@derrickguffey47753 жыл бұрын
And what makes you an expert on American firefighters. Apparently where your from firefighters are infallible gods.
@Whipslinger14 жыл бұрын
Any day now...Aaaany day....
@michaelmootz99412 жыл бұрын
appears to be a phobia to water.10 minutes into a 13 minute video there is water.
@tommy2gunz7962 жыл бұрын
Four firefighters to put out the fire the other 7000 are standing around saying damn we didn’t even get to see any action
@rollinwithjohn69474 жыл бұрын
Wow I live a few blocks away and I did not notice the little house was burned I drive through the avenue everyday
@kenbernard7254 Жыл бұрын
Why do FDNY trucks have so many hard ( suction) lines?
@PJBovio4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robertplummer75494 жыл бұрын
The video was not about the operation it was about the equipment. welles2002 never moved from the side of ladder 38.
@pooproach74122 жыл бұрын
How he works at the school nearby I know since I saw him in there and I went to that school.
@Backnine9072 жыл бұрын
The kid walking away from the fire in the beginning looks suspicious.
@Matthew_M114 жыл бұрын
ok so im not an expert but dont you normally put water on fires?
@johnnz43754 жыл бұрын
Matthew M , Not in New York, they try to scare the fire into submission by the amount of trucks they bring. 😜😜😂
@maldonvic4 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking as firemen gather round to watch the fire burn.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
@@johnnz4375 I saw 3 handlines stretched and 2 master streams deployed. Did you see something different on your screen? Kindly tell me when "first water" was placed on this fire and how you were able to determined that?
@phillipcraddock34802 ай бұрын
Wow can't believe all the monday morning quarterbacks. F.D.N.Y. IS THE Busiest fire dept in this world and probably the best trained. These guys up in the Bronx see more fire in a week then most of you jackoffs will se in a lifetime. God Bless the F.D.N.Y
@andrewwhite17934 жыл бұрын
Hi, are the firefighters waiting for the primary search to complete before applying water? I see the issues of access.
@fdMT_EnGy2 жыл бұрын
No searches should have been, and i don't think they were, can't remember. The buildings marked.
@KG-yn9qi4 жыл бұрын
Sorry I dont get it. Why did it take so long to put water on the fire? At start of video the fist ladder truck was hooked up to hydrant two hand lines. No water on fire 2nd ladder showes up less than three min ladder up and on next roof.no water 4 guys go up on foof no hose no water? So 12 guys standing around walking into each other flapping gums. Finaly the cut a garage door open .still no water on fire. The first ladder goes into air ready to go no water the guys just hang out and watch.now by this time the 2nd floor of the building is almost complete burned up. Still no hose up 2nd ladder to other roof top? Finaly 1st ladder put out water and nearly collapse the 2nd floor because its burned up! And almost puts out the fire! Finaly they put up a ground hose to help ladder. Then drag a hose on 2nd ladder to roof but dont use it, the video closes wit two ladders spray water no hand line and 2nd floor and back of building 100% destroyed. Way to hustle and put out the fire guys. Oh yea in the mean time still 10 12 guys walking around doing nothing flapping guns. Think must of been a fireman BBQ or something! These guys are the best!
@MailmanWilly794 жыл бұрын
What are the white cylindrical things on the boom of 58 Truck? Some sort of gear box perhaps?
@chrisjct4 жыл бұрын
That's my block 181st and crotona Ave lol wow we always knew that house was going to have a fire
@ralphbove2 жыл бұрын
Guys in the 58 truck bucket were getting a bit hot.
@davidharris25194 жыл бұрын
just curious why does it take so long to get water on the fire
@Kylehikes474 жыл бұрын
Well a-lot of factors take place, in this case we cant see the whole scene, my guess is units are on the other side hitting the lower portions of the building and protecting exposures, while they waited for the Tower to get prepared to knock it down from the air, where its much much safer and more effective.
@johnnybravoBoyah4 жыл бұрын
They are not the great DFD for one ....
@tommy2gunz7962 жыл бұрын
Why is it that they always pull up to the fire watch it burn for a half an hour then decide to hook up the hoses and then everybody just looking at it and then decide to turn the water on after three buildings are burning wow
@mikeggg19794 жыл бұрын
Miss the Bronx burning the war years of the 70’s
@DaleDix4 жыл бұрын
You liked running around putting yourself in danger or was it other people.
@Michaelbos4 жыл бұрын
Boy, there was something fueling those flames.
@Whipslinger14 жыл бұрын
yeah. Old, decayed wood.
@CallsItLikeISeizeIts4 жыл бұрын
As soon as you can with as much as you can from as many as you can
@alanchandler254 Жыл бұрын
All those engines and fire persons, but no water for at least 6mins???
@harleypoulsen4 жыл бұрын
Are you guys always letting buildings burn to the ground before taking action ???
@bryaneast25134 жыл бұрын
What a farce, very pleased I do not live in the USA. Towards the end of the video I was pleased to see that someone remembered what water is used for.
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
When was "first water" is placed on this fire and how are you able to determine that from watching this video? I look forward in anticipation for your reply, Bryan.
@aportman582 жыл бұрын
Urban renewal...can tell there is no urgency to extinguish this old structure! Could have knocked 80-90 percent of this fire with a deck-gun with a 2" tip pipe on it!
@comment20094 жыл бұрын
People see visible flames, wonder why no water on the upper section? Why it take 9-10 minutes? 3:11 water clearly visible from interior attack shooting upward. Most likely at the same time doing a primary search of ground floor. Placing water on the upper level with personnel inside could result in being hit by the stream or debris knocked off by the stream. One says use deck gun, to which that person does not observe there is a tower ladder between the engine and the structure. One person says "Coffee and doughnuts anyone......" Wells2002, I think that person wanted to see the RAC, lol.
@SocialistDistancing4 жыл бұрын
When they come, they bring a lot of apparatus.
@johnnybravoBoyah4 жыл бұрын
Yeah 🤔 like a whole bunch and man power out the kazoo. For what ? Maybe for the call sheet stats As so their fire house companies get money from the coffers in the city treasury lol
@SocialistDistancing4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnybravoBoyah well, I was thinking about why all the apparatus. I think it's a SOP. The buildings in Manhattan are very tightly packed together. Fire can jump to adjacent structures very quickly. So, I think that they roll more than the original alarm calls for. Just to cover their ass. Just my speculation.
@garyhargrove27624 жыл бұрын
Well gentlemen in case you didn’t know a 1st alarm assignment brings 3 engines,2 ladders & a battalion. When a 10-75 is transmitted it brings a Rescue Co a Squad Co an extra Engine & Truck plus another battalion and a Fast Truck not to mention multiple EMS units. It’s huge department in a big city. Each Engine has 5 firefighters Ladder Cos,Rescue Cos & Squad Cos have 6 firefighters assigned to them. That’s why there’s a lot of manpower at fire scenes.
@SocialistDistancing4 жыл бұрын
@@garyhargrove2762 what you just mentioned us probably half of the city that I live in apparatus. I would never have known that. For instance, what is a fast truck and you mentioned a squad? Those are technical terminology that I'm not familiar with. There's only 8 stations where I live. How many are in NYC ?
@garyhargrove27624 жыл бұрын
Normal Head Joe FAST Truck stands fo r Firefighter Assist & Search Team. A Squad Co is a combination of Engine & Ladder Co & also have Rescue & Haz-Mat capabilities. As for the number of stations or firehouses which they’re called 254. There are 214 actual firehouses,37 EMS stations & 3 Marine firehouses throughout the City.
@PJBovio4 жыл бұрын
What housing project was that in the background?
@GeorgHaeder4 жыл бұрын
That's Tremont Community Senior Citizens retirement home at Clinton Ave.
@bfdzvalable3 жыл бұрын
5 fire trucks at the beginning of the video yet no water on the fire until almost 10 minutes goes by. Me no understand. ???
@quinwebster23774 жыл бұрын
Curious to know if FDNY have introduced any "distancing" protocols at multi-crew incidents? I am a 32 year professional firefighter and senior station officer in NZ. We have introduced principles to apply wherever this occurs to minimise potential spread of COVID-19. I see comments about application of water from the outside taking some time, however I see a delivery had been stretched into the building for an interior attack less than 2 minutes into the video. You wouldn't want people to be inside with debris falling on them due to material dislodged from an external delivery
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
I don't believe that any distancing protocols have been established. I think it would be easier herding cats. They did alter the work chart so that guys would basically be working with the same crew all the time which is normally not the case. Also...FDNY Engine Companies get dispatched as first responders to certain medicals calls and with the present conditions the guys are now "gowning-up" with medical PPE. I recently talked with a firefighter who works in the borough of Brooklyn and he said that they had numerous EMS runs to obvious Coronavirus victims during the tour. A number of active members have contracted the virus, but no deaths of firefighters, so far. EMS, which became a branch of the FDNY in the mid 1990's, but is not civil service, different chart, and whose members are not firefighters have suffered a number of deaths. So has the NYPD. As for the fire in the video. Most of the commenters (present company excluded) don't even understand what they are looking at. Back in the 1970's and 1980's there was a huge vacant building problem in parts of this city. And I know that the Bronx had a ton of them. The job even published a comprehensive bulletin dealing with the unique problems that vacant building fires present. In fact, to your observation.. as I seem to recall that bulletin stated that a Tower Ladder pipe could place something like 6 tons of water per minute into a building thus compromising it's structural stability. (Six tons seems like a high number, I would think it would be closer to 4 if they were flowing 1000 gpm.) Anyway, aside from the volume, the pressure of the stream is sometimes used as a demolition tool. Thirty two years, eh? So... are you thinking of making a career out of it? lol Take care, stay safe and enjoy the laughs.
@Patrick-ki6nq4 жыл бұрын
All you needed was 2 trucks and someone to say turn on the water.
@clarkclarke4 жыл бұрын
How do you know what they need ???? again...are you saying that you have ESP ..???? ..... I just have to keep asking ...seem everybody knows what they need ....and you folk still out here running around having unprotected sex ...damn !!!
@rubenesparza24974 жыл бұрын
A little concerned those 2 in the basket were getting a little baked waiting for water. You could see them bending their heads forward, trying to block the heat, and signaling for water. Just concerned for the nation's finest.
@dianejudd13154 жыл бұрын
Yes it did take awhile to get water on it. I cant criticized Because i do not know what The guys do
@shiijenny45934 жыл бұрын
I try to depart by thousand hundreds times. But rumors every where with no withdraw. I am frustrated.
@markaraujo062 жыл бұрын
are you serious? these firemen were trained to be fast why are they just just standing around being slow pokes?making the fire gets bigger.
@thuretupp64864 жыл бұрын
10 minutes to first water drop com out .(guys more acction) 30 firefighters stay on street and just looking around and talking to each other. Im realy hope that nobody die
@fdMT_EnGy2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, okay, not the best job done....but before judging, does anyone notice something very important on this building? Did any notice the ff on the ground waving to the guys about to step on the roof of the ofb to back up? What did the ff on the ground see? Not that it's okay, but can anyone think of a reason based on what's on this building, why there was no rush? Why did they go to tower shots almost immediately? Can anyone answer any of these questions? Anyone on here that has negative comments? Bet no one sees it, which is why mouths are running.
@miketritsas67824 жыл бұрын
My.dad.work.in.ladder.38.for.20.years
@sheldonhchambliss13854 жыл бұрын
Scott miller iam lmao good question
@alfredson5244 жыл бұрын
Nur keine Eile, die Herren! Was verbrennt, vermodert nicht!
@morphnowles46354 жыл бұрын
Irgendwie immer wieder unglaublich, wie langsam die US Feuerwehren arbeiten. Kann mich auch täuschen, aber bei uns geht das schneller :D
@alfredson5244 жыл бұрын
@@morphnowles4635 Ja, das verwundert mich auch immer wieder. Die kommen zur Einsatzstelle und fangen dort erst an sich ihre Schutzbekleidung anzuziehen!? Ich war über 25 Jahre (freiwilliger) Feuerwehrmann - bei uns ging das zügiger...
@morphnowles46354 жыл бұрын
Joachim Arndt Gefühlt stehen auch alle ewig rum und es dauert so lange bis die Wasser zum Feuer bringen, unfassbar
@azul88114 жыл бұрын
Ich denke, die besten Feuerwehrleute in Kontinentaleuropa sind in der Pariser Feuerwehr. Sie sind wirklich professionell. Stimmt es wirklich, dass 97% der deutschen Feuerwehrleute Freiwillige sind? Wie ist das möglich?
@jole37994 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry for the fire
@CC-gr7gf3 жыл бұрын
It always takes FDNY an hour to put any water on a fire. I don’t get it.
@azul88113 жыл бұрын
Please indicate the time at which first water was placed on this fire.
@gglegreff18584 жыл бұрын
comme d'habitude, aux states, les mecs circulent, font des pas, mais, les ordres, ils viennent quand, et l'eau, ? c'est délirant!!!!!!!!!!!!
@MegaShanes14 жыл бұрын
Hey guys there 40% of Dunkin Donuts.
@Pastor_RogerSherwood4 жыл бұрын
There seems to be no sense of urgency
@RetLtFF434 жыл бұрын
Roger Sherwood it’s a WF, free standing under construction, with water being applied on the on 1 side exposure..
@Pastor_RogerSherwood4 жыл бұрын
FirstDue I didn’t catch that. I don’t mean to be ugly to these guys, I know that they work hard. It just seems that they would move faster. I am a 28 year veteran of the fire service and a company officer, if my crew didn’t move with a sense of urgency, I would be all over them until they moved faster.
@michaelpatanella4 жыл бұрын
welcome to nyc lol
@crispycritterz4 жыл бұрын
Few F^cks were given that day. A strong union makes that possible.
@legohead64 жыл бұрын
There wasnt. building had been abandoned for 15+ years. There was nothing to be lost letting it burn
@geraldalama1074 жыл бұрын
they brought hooks up instead of water how dumb!
@scottlokey30884 жыл бұрын
Your taxes Not In Action!!!!
@robg8364 жыл бұрын
Its pronounced and spelled "Da" Bronx
@iambj1444 жыл бұрын
I assume it's related to " Da bears "
@derrickguffey47753 жыл бұрын
And what dictionary is that in that word is certainly not to be found in Webster's .it is was and always will be the bronx . Just because you can't pronounce a word correctly doesn't mean the rest of us have to follow suit and that you are right. Try going back to school and relearn how to spell and talk . Stop giving the rest of us a bad name moron
@jole37994 жыл бұрын
More fdny please
@johnnybravoBoyah4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jole37994 жыл бұрын
Johnny Bravo you are my best friend in the whole world
@miketritsas67824 жыл бұрын
Bellmout.av.88.38
@johndodi3 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me. What a big waste of manpower and equipment. Let’s just wait until the surrounding buildings catch on fire.
@larsmueller26974 жыл бұрын
wow - the first 10min. you can watch "firefighting without using any water" and then knock down the fire in 1min. when the structure is already done! This is like a really bad comedy!