Welt Prime is when he turned himself into a fucking wall that trapped Kevin in the [Sea of Quanta]
@THAT_WHAT_THAT4 ай бұрын
Wel 11D high complex mutilvere
@ruannari4 ай бұрын
A very weakened Kebin like VERY weak
@seraphal19704 ай бұрын
@@ruannari Dude hasn't eaten anything for 1500 years, not even his favorite instant noodles 😭
@ruannari4 ай бұрын
@@seraphal1970 BRO HES DEPRESSED LET HIM EAT HIS INSTANT NOODLES
@McWanderer_4 ай бұрын
@@THAT_WHAT_THAT bros weakest attack had 4d ap 🍷🗿 right ?
@Proxy6063 ай бұрын
“I am, welt of humanity” -welt, of humanity
@omegafr99172 ай бұрын
When Welt mean world 😢
@GoingForthАй бұрын
@@omegafr9917 Yeah, literally translated to World of humanity
@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh398615 күн бұрын
Elysia HoHE: uhm what?
@Proxy60615 күн бұрын
@@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh3986 Here is my totally not convoluted statement about Ellie about why I disagree but she’s best girl anyways Who is a better representation of humanity? A person who is regarded perfection or a man who still struggles immensely even with abilities and backups? A person who has fallacies is innately human. A Mary Sue isn’t a human, and even if they are it’s likely fictional Another thing, the “herrscher of human” is kinda weird in it of itself. She dubbed herself that even though there technically is no herrscher of human. She wields the authority of origin after all and there is no reason why she’s the herrscher of human. In fact her saying it’s from her love for humanity makes the title a bit iffy since it’s not an authority Not to mention, Welt just seems much more human than anything. He has powers that exceed most people’s, but at the same time many don’t revere him like a god. In Star rail even tho he uses Star of Eden he’s still just called regular ol “Uncle Welt” Welt is a better representation of humanity then Elysia, which is ironic as her perfection was her fallacy in this argument (She’s still my favourite valk tho)
@manuellucciola87884 ай бұрын
Just as they brought us Dan Heng IL as his full power form, I have faith they will bring us a Welt Yang with his power fully unleashed 😎😎😎
@morrisless27073 ай бұрын
Might be too strong from a gameplay perspective tho
@ar-cielstarlingnemesis21463 ай бұрын
If by some chance they really do that, it's gonna be a long time before that happens.
@heyykamla89993 ай бұрын
What now? You want a 6* welt?
@blueseptile76403 ай бұрын
Welt prime is on the same level as the aeons I don’t think that will be possible unless that make a 6 stars
@Midnight-wh2bs2 ай бұрын
@@blueseptile7640 Yeah... you don't understand Hi3 lore. Aside from HoFin Kiana, NONE of the Herrschers are anywhere near Aeon level, Welt especially not. Even in his prime Welt is the weakest Herrscher with regards to raw power, Welt is only such a gigachad cause he is an extremely good strategist and can use his powers in the most effective ways possible.
@galan25413 ай бұрын
I'm not playing HI3 but People are sorely mistaken how strong and incredible Welt in his prime. He was Herrscher of Reason... And I was talking about the PRIME Welt, not the HSR version.
@MengHaoofTheDao2 ай бұрын
Eh, Welt got negative diffed by Kevin. Kevin got negative diffed by Kiana finality. Acheron is stronger than Kiana finality. Y'all are wildly copious
@galan25412 ай бұрын
@@MengHaoofTheDao I never said Acheron is weaker than Welt. Also those are baseless assumption. Cry about it
@Wsio.2 ай бұрын
@@MengHaoofTheDao Kiana wouldn't have won if it weren't for the power of friendship, Kevin would demolish every single one of them in a head to head battle, and Acheron is definitely not stronger than Kiana since Kiana literally has the power of the strongest Herrscher mixed with the other 2 that she has, she would stomp Acheron
@ranjitmandal16122 ай бұрын
🙌
@MengHaoofTheDao2 ай бұрын
@@galan2541 "things that happened in Canon are baseless assumptions, cry about it" - 🤓🤓🤡🤡
@purevkusnoe1894 ай бұрын
Prime Welt took away everything except flexibility and dexterity
@Itskaty._.4 ай бұрын
With the core, he can rebuild himself again and again
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
Remember his core broke he couldn't reconstruct himself lmao.
@Itskaty._.3 ай бұрын
@@kiana4237 well yeah i meant if he had it
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@Itskaty._. yeah and that's the point the core is fragile and easily break it took welt forever to reconstruct himself back.
@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh39863 ай бұрын
@@kiana4237assumptions isn't good for you lol
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh3986 yeah tell that to sirin who literally cracked his core with her bare hands.
@dolphindiverbct82974 ай бұрын
Welt takes speed since the Sea of Quanta has no time yet he can still move in it
@taniagiglio30773 ай бұрын
No
@Caliz3333 ай бұрын
Fax
@anyax_lmao2 ай бұрын
Finally an actual real 4d feat ppL just put hi3 outerversal like stop dumping thay are 4d high multi overball if your talking about the strongest ones and 3d high uni if your talking about the weaker ones
@aaravyadav75032 ай бұрын
@@anyax_lmao sea of quanta is a 11d space buddy and the reason people put many hi3 characters at outerversal is because in the visual novel called gunzgirl z many hi3 characters show outerversal feat or mostly Kevin show outerversal feat
@ranjitmandal16122 ай бұрын
😮
@Azorean_boyАй бұрын
You know nothing of the weight behind this power. -Welt Yang.
@minetfq7394 ай бұрын
Welt prime takes Potential, HoR's power is the most potential thing to have, at full potential, Welt can literally neg anyone in the whole Honkai verse(excluding GGZs). FOr people questioning why: Full Potential of HoR is Hotr, being able to create ANYTHING as long as you understands how it works and its components. Thats all it takes.
@tuypham7284 ай бұрын
bro welt can't neg honkai bro and you want to know more you can find trixeee
@tuypham7284 ай бұрын
and you want to know more you can search trixeee
@tuypham7284 ай бұрын
you want to know more you can search trixeee
@ruannari4 ай бұрын
Welt prime IS the current HSR welt confirmed by Devs in Livestreams, welt's SoE is a replica while the Real SoE at full potential can only destroy one Continent at it's biggest Honkai energy consumption. Welt couldn't beat a Quasi Emanator (Ebon deer) and a pseudo Emanator (Aventurine) With the fact that Acheron can LITERALLY STOP TIME. There's no way welt is winning this
@Lieutenant6534 ай бұрын
@@tuypham728in a alternate universe where he lost his friends he absorbed core of void and destroyed all world powers he literally become the strongest character so yeah if he wanted power he would wiped out whole honkai
@JonRoxton3 ай бұрын
Just wait for him to meet Welt Joyce from star rail universe so he may get an upgrade
@1st2nd-dp9uu2 ай бұрын
Their the same person
@JonRoxton2 ай бұрын
Welt got his name from Joyce who was the first herrscher of reason they are not the same person since orginal Welt died but his star rail version might be still alive
@soumyakanta44504 ай бұрын
High quality is too low to appreciate this masterpiece!!
@rankjournalisme-ys6gi3 ай бұрын
We just gonna make the fandom argument with this one🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh39863 ай бұрын
Nah welt is already too strong for hsr verse
@rankjournalisme-ys6gi3 ай бұрын
@@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh3986 there still someone say acheron stronger for sure 💀
@bravo996014 күн бұрын
man put his concious into his gem... dies... but then recosntruct his body.. multiple times
@ga78944 ай бұрын
1. Edith is amazing.❤ 2. The best are not compared!
@madness68224 күн бұрын
Welt left his legacy, Acheron's legacy left her. Very different but 2 sides of the same coin.
@dgixp2 ай бұрын
Battle Experience to Acheron? Unlikely considering Welt has been battling in two Universes now
@rumixin1462 ай бұрын
Her world fought Youyorozu No Kami (Eight million gods). Fun fact ; that was from Shinto mythology reference mean the Kami are more than eight millions. So imagine she's struggle and survive againts more than eight millions Kami in her World and be the only survivor after she killed her Kevin in the last. Her experience is more worsest than him.
@h.keiamazing42793 күн бұрын
But we still don't know the story of welt when he got discovered by HIMEKO on space welt might change becoz he's not in HI3 anymore so I think welt might still have a chance remember MIHOYO knows how to surprise us players.. 😊😊😊
@geruluckylol43724 ай бұрын
SPEED GOES TO WELT, BRO LITERALLY MOVING PLANET TO PLANET WHILE DOGDING SIRIN. it's on the manga
@Zusk0n4 ай бұрын
Archeron can time stop?
@dkkch43774 ай бұрын
@@Zusk0nshe can't
@lichtmuramasadragneel10814 ай бұрын
@@Zusk0nthat is just moving fast and we seeing the world in his perspective, if that was time stop then almost every Character in HI3rd have time stop while moving relatively fast, more specially HoT Mei
@dkkch43774 ай бұрын
@@lichtmuramasadragneel1081 but yae sakura from honkai impact 3rd can Freeze time i remember
@Nsnsms14 ай бұрын
@@dkkch4377Acheron can stop time and it’s confirmed by hoyoverse
@pablolo2872 ай бұрын
Bro got his own hogyoku.
@guiltiasinteida4 ай бұрын
Prime welt if u annoy him u disappear
@Finstermask6 күн бұрын
Welt now: easily cut half a blackhole Welt prime: 💀💀💀
@ukyoanime4 ай бұрын
Finally some comp for welt
@Welt_Sosuke_Editz4 ай бұрын
All to Welt. Still W edit tho
@tuypham7284 ай бұрын
Thôi kiểu này hợp lý nhất cho cả 2 rồi phần còn lại là của mihoyo chọn ai thôi
@Welt_Sosuke_Editz4 ай бұрын
@@tuypham728quả take này bủh quá lol.
@tuypham7284 ай бұрын
@@Welt_Sosuke_Editz tôi thấy cũng ok
@Welt_Sosuke_Editz4 ай бұрын
@@tuypham728 Prime Welt dùng Star of Eden chắc cho ngủm luôn quá. Chưa kể đến việc Welt còn chặn đc đường thoát ra của Kevin ở biển lượng tử nữa.
@tuypham7284 ай бұрын
@@Welt_Sosuke_Editz thôi ông mà nói thế thì 100/100 người ta nói mình ảo tưởng
@McWanderer_4 ай бұрын
Prime Welt Claps Acheron in both Ways 🗣🗣🗣
@sufferred70304 ай бұрын
even Welt in his prime, he just as strong as Acheron
@McWanderer_4 ай бұрын
@@sufferred7030 if he wanted to he can destroy anyone in hsr lol .
@sufferred70304 ай бұрын
@@McWanderer_ he can't, don't overhyped him so much, and Herrschers are the same level with Emanators, so there's no way he can do something crazy in the future.
@McWanderer_4 ай бұрын
@@sufferred7030 herrschere are whole way league above emantor and i am not even joking unless you are a troll lol .
@sufferred70304 ай бұрын
@@McWanderer_ even that's true, but they are nothing compared to Aeons
@etsuko43802 ай бұрын
Imagine Limited "6 Stars" Awakened/Full Power Welt Destruction Path that can only be obtained through Gacha instead of progressing the Storyline. I'd gamble
@justincodillaАй бұрын
I would pull
@leonardobittencourt9184 ай бұрын
Prime welt>acheron Acheron>current welt
@G.du_ping4 ай бұрын
Acheron win against the current Welt but it's a High/Extreme diff
@AserehtGracilla4 ай бұрын
Since currently welt still has the strength to even oppose almost anyone just decides not to intervene that much
@Shhh3084 ай бұрын
Nah Welt > Hsr - Aeons
@leonardobittencourt9184 ай бұрын
@@Shhh308 hell Nah Welt is nerfed as hell in hsr.
@ruannari4 ай бұрын
@@leonardobittencourt918 prime welt is current welt lmao it was confirmed by Devs in the Livestream
@A_087_4 ай бұрын
Welt bullies no concept of diff(-)
@artemis70502 күн бұрын
imagine there are still people who say Acheron can beat kevin kaslana (Hi3) 🙃
@refuuo3 ай бұрын
I love welt but he's literally one of the weakest herrschers lmao
@PedroFranco9223 ай бұрын
maybe, but he's not being compared to any herrscher
@angelvu3 ай бұрын
absolutely not??? what 😭 he’s one of the strongest herrschers before the main characters had 2nd awakening… and keep in mind that herrschers get stronger as humanity fights back honkai more successfully, and Welt still aided the main cast very well WITHOUT a herrscher core inside of him!!! In his prime he 1v1 a herrscher blessed by Will of Honkai (basically GOD!) with 4 different herrscher cores inside of Sirin!!! ON THE MOON!! AND HE ALMOST WON AT THE LAST SECOND!
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@angelvu no he wasn't lmfao 😭 every pe herrscher and even Joyce was stronger then him you glazing this mf hard he wasn't that relevant in plot either.
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@angelvu you also forgot that welt was losing 3 times if it wasn't for the fission bomb and he was getting beat down by ascendant sirin who's barely a Herrscher awakened lmfao
@refuuo3 ай бұрын
@angelvu on the moon the only thing he could do is stall sirin
@ok-sg6df3 ай бұрын
welt is my goat
@RajiotaАй бұрын
Thing is, Welt would lose the first fight, he always goes for the long con, so he would wait to rebuild himself and then strike with something like Singularity Rebuild or even detonate the Star of Eden.
@adriantepes435520 күн бұрын
Singularity rebuild doesn't create a literal black hole mf. It's name fallacy. Plus, Welt would get erased from existence if Acheron hit him
@Rajiota3 күн бұрын
@@adriantepes4355 Singularity Rebuild is not the quasi-black hole, go reas Alien space
@Animedemon15.4 ай бұрын
W edit fr 💯🗣️🔥
@mohammadadel667812 күн бұрын
I think you gave a lot of points for Acheron which should be for welt but, it’s still good
@Barakyda06292 ай бұрын
I am amused by these comparisons of Velta (Prime) and Acheron. Yes, you can say as much as you like what a strong Welt was, but HSR kind of gave a clear hint. In a world similar to HI3rd, where there were the same herreshers and +- other strong characters, only Acheron remained. She literally killed everyone during the war of the 2 worlds (there was even a reference to Kevin, whom she killed). And it becomes obvious who is stronger, Welt (Prime), whose power everyone has heard about, or Acheron, who killed people like Welt (Prime) even before she received the power of non-existence.
@francescozoni34692 ай бұрын
What you say is Nominal Fallacy, Power levels are different in any world, HI3 Herrschers go from High Complex Multi to Outer while the fodders from Acheron's world aren't even Planetary, stop glazing that Solar System+ fodder that is Acheron
@aosoranoshitahe2 ай бұрын
@@francescozoni3469stop fanboying more talk than useless thinking
@francescozoni34692 ай бұрын
@@aosoranoshitahegive me one feat from Acheron that puts her above Solar System
@Lloyd-water7983 ай бұрын
I'm a hsr fan and even I know welt is to strong 💀 like who seriously think acheron can beat welt like bruh 💀 ( i DON'T even play hi3 and i know all character in hi3 are broken as f )
@omgseele3 ай бұрын
but acheron killed a blackwhole and is nihiltys child very rare
@rangnarockdorgudo29833 ай бұрын
Then go play and you'll know that welt isn't even half Acheron.
@1st2nd-dp9uu2 ай бұрын
@@rangnarockdorgudo2983umm hi3 characters are whole new lv, you finally haven't even seen welt in ggz either but,hi3 and ggz>>hsr i can explain how strong he is as he used to be herrscher which is stronger than all of aeons together.
@rumixin1462 ай бұрын
Nope lmao The fandom is overatted😹
@Midnight-wh2bs2 ай бұрын
As someone who is a long time Hi3 player, Welt, even prime Welt, loses to Acheron. Welt has never been particularly strong and is in reality on the weaker end of Herrschers. Welt only comes off as so strong cause he's a good strategist and knows how to use his powers as effectively as possible, but if you actually look at all of his fights, he is almost always on the backfoot and only wins either through better planning or his win condition was losing favorably.
@gaminglife81037 күн бұрын
Primw welt solos Hsr including fodder Aeons Strongest Aeon Nanook cap at 2C Meanwhile welt at 1-C He not even in top 10 Not including GGZ And some Acheron new fans think she the strongest among all Raiden What a clown
@V0idyz.13 күн бұрын
Welt is just op as hal
@FIARSOT.4 ай бұрын
W edit bro ❤❤❤❤😮😮😮😮
@fizer3023 ай бұрын
Question: Where would you scale welt and what feats does he have? Im not that caught up with hi3 yet, but in the second eruption, he's shown at least city level feats at best, in my opinion. So i just wanna ask how he beats an Emanator like Acheron, who defeated her worlds version of Kevin Kalsana? (Tldr, i love welt, he's literally my favorite character. Im just asking how he exactly beats acheron because im not that knowledgeable of the lore of hi3.)
@francescozoni34693 ай бұрын
HSR Kevin is featless and combining feats and narrative Acheron is Large Star level. Welt can affect higher dimensions with SoE and Destroyed 11D Imaginary Barriers, he also can replicate everything he understands. Also Prime Welt negs the verse via being relative to HoV Sirin and holding back Kevin in SoQ
@jakeblitzcoffie48593 ай бұрын
Prime Welt was confirmed Solarsystem level in the Durandal VN alongside Prime Sirin (Sirin Ascendant, aka Prime HoV). This lines up with his supernova statement in the SE manga. Alien Space also gives him dimensional hax and singularity recreation with his Divine Key. Let me list out all his abilities, feats, and statements. 1. With the HoR authority, he can recreate literally anything as long as he has an understanding of an objects composition. 2. Star of Eden can attack higher dimensional beings via gravity, and his HoR authority allows him to see into higher dimensional planes of existence. Star of Eden can make a functional blackhole that can destroy a planet, warp space and time as shown in the SE manga while fighting Sirin in space, create a singularity, and create dimensional barriers. His HoR authority allows creation of imaginary barriers as well. Now moving onto his feats: 1. Fought Sirin in her prime and lost, but then rebuilt his body and almost defeated her before Otto stopped him. 2. Sealed away Kevin into the SoQ for years singlehandedly. 3. Single handedly killed a clone of himself that held similar powers in the manga. 4. Took out the majority of Honkai beasts across Russia in the SE. 5. Created an entire dimension within the SoQ just to train Bronya. 6. Killed Ryusuke, an alien that used a weapon that could attack opponents from higher dimensional planes of existence. This is not including HSR obviously. So yeah, the dude is pretty OP. Current Welt should scale closely to an Emanator because of his Divine Key which can recreate a singularity (which is a point in space where time itself does not exist and reality itself breaks down), and summon a functional blackhole that can swallow planets and even stars at full power, hence his line, "witness the stars shatter before you!" Hope this helped a bit.
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@francescozoni3469featless? She cut through the dreamscape the entire star system the asdana covered lmao
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859he wasn't that was welt Joyce
@jakeblitzcoffie48593 ай бұрын
@kiana4237 Welt Joyce was way weaker than Welt Yang. He was city level at best and never used the core to the extent that Welt and Bronya did. They said the first and second Herrschers in CE, obviously referring to Welt and Sirin, as they were talking about the second eruption.
@Egunzs4 ай бұрын
This edit is very amazing! How did this not getting so much like?! 🔥🔥
@quq_is_me2 ай бұрын
I saw a vid of a guy giving most of the points to Acheron (for example, abilities) and I have a lot of questions to ask him...
@Midnight-wh2bs2 ай бұрын
Acheron would win. Welt is only strong cause he is good at strategizing and using his powers in the most effective way possible, however when it comes to actual power he is on the weaker end of Herrschers.
@Cultured_IndividualАй бұрын
@@Midnight-wh2bs I agree, like if we compare raw power alone, Welt won't even come close to Acheron
@AstraLuna-o9i3 ай бұрын
As much as I fucking love Welt, power wise in his prime I don’t believe he could take on Acheron. Welt was the Herscher of Reason, and he could overcome a fellow Herscher like Herscher of the Void Sirin, but when she was endowed with the all Herscher powers from the Will of Honkai, it took Welt letting her destroy his body and take his Core, and later severing her connection to Will of Honkai so that his companions could overcome her. Later when he met Kevin Kaslana, earths strongest fighter who could kill Herschers easily, he could not beat Kevin and had to use his intellect to keep Kevin trapped. Kevin was unable to overcome the Herscher of Finality which is probably around the same power level as an Emanator, of an Aeon. Even being outmatched tho, my boy Welt never backs down and he uses his intellect to overcome opponents.
@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh39863 ай бұрын
Bruh he prevented Kevin (the holder of the cocoon of finality) from entering the imaginary tree
@numerals89393 ай бұрын
@@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh3986 Kevin didn't even have parts of the CoF authority at that point and could easily one shot Welt and come back, like how how he came back.
@wetsocks48613 ай бұрын
Herscher of finality on the same level as an emanator? Bro is smoking the good shit.
@burakakbulut69292 ай бұрын
how is HoF around the same power level as an emanator tho lol
@Midnight-wh2bs2 ай бұрын
@@burakakbulut6929 Emanators are able to effortlessly destroy entire planets, PE HoFin needed like an entire day just to destroy the surface of Earth. Saying PE HoFin is Emanator level is even a bit generous. HoFin Kiana though is definitely closer to Aeon level though considering she can pretty easily reach into other universes.
@Avh._.3 ай бұрын
"brace yourself for gravitational disintegration" 🥶 welt solos
@hkzero77892 ай бұрын
Editing Check: S Tier
@brianaguilar52043 ай бұрын
Welt takes everything
@YanZ_rob2 ай бұрын
Bro, there are lots of acheron simp here💀💀
@azur_dragon34752 ай бұрын
dude what are u yapping bout all i see is Welts supporters(including me😂)
@Deflamed_Sphere2 ай бұрын
@@azur_dragon3475 fr
@Aether3474 ай бұрын
Req: Acheron vs Genshin Impact
@Ilikehonkai4 ай бұрын
Overkill
@slmcuqulatam17504 ай бұрын
Genshin verse is trash. Low level power scaling.
@SkoiVv4 ай бұрын
That's unfair💀 she solos
@yuminanirvalen3 ай бұрын
Teyvat wouldn't exist anymore if she drew her blade even once.
@CyberDragonVT10 күн бұрын
Welt's durability is yes. He litterally dies and comes back more than once. How do you destroy someone that can only truly die if he never existed in the first place?
@whomewhou617228 күн бұрын
Now make it ggz welt vs acheron 💀
@gaminglife81037 күн бұрын
Wait ggz welt exist? Prime welt is enough already
@epictp-sideshot0485Ай бұрын
Prime welt is high hyperversal based on lore, even his HSR version is high galaxy-universal level based on the fact that he has the star of Eden (replica) that allows him to retain a solid portion of his powers. He can summon black holes, shatter black holes, and rip stars apart with complete ease. Hell in the HSR verse, he’s the closest person to being on the level of the eons. Dare I say, he is the true emanator of nihility. And he’s able to do all of this, without even trying, so we don’t even know the full scale of his power in HSR, but it’s safe to say he claps both ways
@adriantepes435522 күн бұрын
Prime Welt is not even planetary
@adriantepes435522 күн бұрын
I think you read some fan edit or fan made manga.
@NeinKyori18 күн бұрын
@@adriantepes4355Yeah, these people must be reading hi3 from tiktok or smth Eden Star’s blackhole fking suck. Base Sirin is below nuke level and even then the fake blackhole doesn’t have enough tidal force to rip her apart when she half-way into the event horizon. Not to mention Kevin and Fu Hua just casually have a conversation inside it (pre-Garuda Fu Hua btw)
@TheBoltMaster4563 ай бұрын
Prime Welt takes everything
@thevoviksuper96393 ай бұрын
Will there be any arguments?
@heyykamla89993 ай бұрын
@@thevoviksuper9639who would? Prime welt was basically a god
@rumixin1462 ай бұрын
Nope lmao Stop being Overrated, you don't even know his best feats is when he fought Murata not Kevin😹
@Midnight-wh2bs2 ай бұрын
Welt is a gigachad not because he's strong, but because he is such a good strategist and so good at effectively using his powers he can hit well above his weight class. Trying to claim prime Welt is basically a god takes away from how much of a badass he is if anything, especially when it's a completely baseless claim.
@Aeterin4 ай бұрын
Can you make aventurine vs Ratio and Sunday? And also outsmarting?
@Damiran7Күн бұрын
Nice
@hi3_glazer2 ай бұрын
Acheron slams
@imconstantlycopingАй бұрын
hell naw
@Tonmokez4 ай бұрын
W
@1leviz1863 ай бұрын
sorry but Even Welt nerf A little still he has Star of Eden And That even can make Hsr Universe Slams so much
@kieutran5566Ай бұрын
Pro, Acheron can slash her planet and give them on Nihility with 1 slash delete story of that planet She have power of Nihility that Given by IX( the Aeon of Nihlity) and we know Aeon >all Herschers
@jakeblitzcoffie4859Ай бұрын
Lmfao😂 HoFi/HoTE > all Aeons.
@thevoviksuper96393 ай бұрын
It's like we were shown the full power of Acheron, god... How stupid. Experts of HY3rd, of course you are great, but saying what Welt is stronger at when you yourself know literally NOTHING about Acheron is of course an interesting idea.
@iotarori3 ай бұрын
yeah, shes a high end emanator, but welt is a herrscher which means god or monarch. read honkai impact 3rd lore, you obviously know nothing about it either.
@pockabotic6973 ай бұрын
@@iotarori it think they are both at the same level, because the god on hi3rd is the "honkai" Itself while herrscher is like the emanator of the "honkai". And in hsr al the aeons is like the personification of "Honkai" Itself. And also we have the lookalike "herrscher" Concept on inazumo lore but the herrscher is actually sword. And that's my opinion, "honkai" & aeon is the god, while herrscher & emanator is the incarnation of them cmiiw.
@Midnight-wh2bs2 ай бұрын
@@iotarori You don't either considering Herrschers (excluding HoFin Kiana) are no where near as powerful as Emanators. Even PE HoFin needed an extended period of time just to destroy the surface of Earth, meanwhile Emanators can effortless destroy entire planets. Hell even non-Emanators like Doomsday Beast are capable of destroying planets.
@Casey08562 ай бұрын
@@iotarori God that even can't destroy one planet?Huh
@Cinabonz4 ай бұрын
I see a lot of people talking about prime welt, which yes, he would beat her in everything, but its probably a battle against hsr welt since he didnt take all the points
@lesterism4 ай бұрын
Welt is the weakest Herrscher in Hi3. Acheron>Prime Welt
@Cinabonz4 ай бұрын
@@lesterism He was possibly the weakest Herrscher, but he's still a herrscher. Acheron is only an emanator. MAYBE an aeon may be able to defeat a herrscher but definitely not acheron.
@jakeblitzcoffie48594 ай бұрын
@lesterism That's not even true. Wendy was the weakest Herrscher. Welt is easily top 5, in my opinion. I would put it like this. 1. HoTE/HoFi 2. HoO/HoHe 3. HoTr 4. HoV (Prime) 5. HoR (Welt Prime)
@sufferred70304 ай бұрын
@@Cinabonz bro, herrschers and emanators are in the same level, Aeons are far more stronger than both of them
@ChocoEarly15304 ай бұрын
@@lesterism Bro forgot about Wendy xD
@AbelAngelo-hw7lr13 күн бұрын
Welt takes all of it. Maybe except agility
@Kenarinor66502 ай бұрын
W edit fax ❤
@xMirajaneSW4 ай бұрын
Fact
@glacier-idk4 ай бұрын
Now do Prime Mei VS Prime Welt 🗣🗣🔥
@Yurei0014 ай бұрын
Mei mid-low welt , she is one of the top 3 hrrescher lol
@FireflyIsSamusAranSister4 ай бұрын
And after that prime Kevin vs prime mei
@glacier-idk4 ай бұрын
@afriendlygravital554 what about dr. Mei 😏😏
@Yurei0014 ай бұрын
@@glacier-idk 💀💀💀 bruh
@glacier-idk4 ай бұрын
@@Yurei001 kinda funny in ggz era 0 mei and kevin got married (since ggz era 0 mei had 0 love for kiana and kiana being in love with uh jhaynar forgot her spelling)
@zamaneditor123sКүн бұрын
Always acheron the raiden younger version ❤
@glxtched19 күн бұрын
Welt just bully acheron ngl, he was old and do insane feats, now prime its damn
@Shhh3084 ай бұрын
Bro current Welt slams let alone prime? Also, all points to Welt. Acheron gets one-tapped
@Midnight-wh2bs2 ай бұрын
Welt loses to Acheron, yall need to stop overhyping Welt he was one of the weakest Herrschers. Guy is a badass yes but only because of strategy and the understanding to effectively use his powers. If you actually pay attention to his fights you'd notice that more often than not he is on the backfoot and only wins through strategy or some gambit rather than by the merits of his own power.
@PA708054 ай бұрын
If it’s prime welt I think he gets everything with dimension difference + no diff Acheron. Current one is debatable. Anyway w edit.
@hdn58184 ай бұрын
Lol it's already confirmed "as welt steps eagerly in his new adventure to demonstrate the power he possed in his prime" He is in his prime in HSR
@PA708054 ай бұрын
Oh he one taps the aeons I suppose no ? Either aeons are stronger or either he is not in his prime self. After aeons could be also 11d so maybe. In which video pls ?
@PA708054 ай бұрын
Or maybe the manga
@jakeblitzcoffie48594 ай бұрын
@hdn5818 He is not. He is no longer a Herrscher because Kiana sealed 99% of Honkai into the moon. What the video was talking about was the Star of Eden, which is indeed a weapon he used in his prime. "The power he possessed in his prime" refers to Star of Eden, not his authority as a Herrscher.
@ruannari4 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 Even his SoE is a replica which the REAL ONE couldn't even blow up a planet
@jeremynehemiah39934 ай бұрын
So that small boy . Who bronia met in that world is welt😊
@HernanGuintoАй бұрын
to those arguing,GI,GGZ,HI3,HSR,Are in one universe❤❤
@Tanzuko33553 ай бұрын
Acheron stop welt attack and can kill he
@0lycm_Ай бұрын
welt wins every thing sry
@Chef-mq5gh16 күн бұрын
bro yall are aguing, can I get a clear answer ? Who win ?
@lutn415 күн бұрын
PRIME welt wins against acheron current HSR welt no (he doesn't possess the same power he once had or his core anymore)
@Chef-mq5gh15 күн бұрын
@@lutn4 bro tysm, I was tired of them arguing, you're a life saver.
@4BacklitOsbor3Ай бұрын
Yang welt loves Himeko and he protects everyone how to save Himeko from anything
@Marvina99Ай бұрын
` but they think a sword is more dangerous to a black hole ` -acheron
@rumixin1462 ай бұрын
Nope, Acheron could easily erase him into nothingness since she's not only an Emanator but represent of her path. If you think his black hole will work to her, you are mistake even she can cut it. Welt best feat is in Manga Alien space when he fought Murata. That time he rebuilds singularity and manipulate dimensional Via Gravity by the guide of lord konpeito, but still he need a lot of time to understood and also cause side effect to his own body. Acheron could blitz him since she's type of someone end up something to the point. And it's not easy to understand her domain Horizon of existence since it's the other side of reality, not in entire imaginary tree but something unknown place as Sea of Nihility.
@okkotsuhitsu2 ай бұрын
And Welt forms a 11th dimensional structure ☠️
@aosoranoshitahe2 ай бұрын
@@okkotsuhitsuEmanator is above,especially nihility and self annihilator
@okkotsuhitsu2 ай бұрын
@@aosoranoshitahe u dont even state anything that scale Acheron above HI Welt
@SAMLn222 ай бұрын
@@okkotsuhitsu2.3 After The latest may be about Raiden B Mei: He is a self-annihilator who explores the universe (imaginary tree) HIS MISSION to break the chain of curse IX.Lastest A dangerous faction in the universe has appereance,lurks in the existence of the void whose existence cannot be detected within the laws of the universe, DEVICE IX, And He Said Aims To Do Solo Vs Device IX IN DARK WEB,In addition to including the Imaginary Tree, in Honkai Star Rail, all the smartest people in the universe understand all the laws that exist. Existing in the Universe with Complex Use of Modern and Sophisticated Equipment(Not Making Fairy Tales)Which Doesn't Exist in Current Human Mythology and Cosmology or Fodder Verse and Fiction, and Advanced Device IX can be said to be at the highest level of natural law in the imaginary tree. But not yet. there are many unwritten answers. And Honkai Star Rail Lore Will Continue Running.And Star Rail MADE This Game Especially Lore for Cosmology, Inviting Universe Science Experts from Higher Universities, You Surely Know If You Watch Knowing The Universe, They Don't Use Fanboying Who Are Asked To Talk According To Their Ridiculous Fantasies. Advanced And finally I can say that Raiden B Mei can broke everything, cannot be defeated. 無敵. As a Emanators and self-annihilator, his sword can decide the fate of whatever has been determined and easily reverse fate. Bringing him into nihility, lost forever. the horizon of existence is a place where the dimensions of the real world “Existence”all think in the universe and nihility are separated, and he attacks and destroys Penacony from within this dimension without having to be seen on screen, you could say this is an offscreen world. and the latest statement is that Raiden B Mei did not attack with his sword. But only a "small vibration" from the dimension of the horizon of existence was sent to Penacony. and that's enough to destroy stellaron and ena power.Still breaking fate>>> This No opportunity for Welt to defeat Acheron is increasingly impossible. because there is no welt access to attack Acheron with "BLACK HOLE SPAM" from a dimension that only the "Self Annihilator" has. And once again this is the reality, not to belittle. For Real,Welt still strong in prime but acheron as emanator nihillity negs all
@Cultured_IndividualАй бұрын
I agree, since these powerscaling always likes to favor raw power and feats alone, Welt in no world would stand a chance against Acheron
@user-zp6qn5zv6x2 ай бұрын
I think that welt will use he's real power because in his lightcone he's power is coloured red and he's original power is coloured red to
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
Welt wasn't ever strong even in HI3rd anyone glazing welt means people are upscaling herrschers feats when most herrschers cannonically are just planetary threats with law bending abilities, and just use tiktoks and other sites to prove their arguments, and doesn't know the full lore of HI3rd. Welt is a low tier Herrscher, he literally says himself that his abilities to control the Herrscher reason core is simply lower than his progenitor bronya zaychick. what's even more low is the fact bronya managed to rewrite the 300k wills and made the Herrscher of reason core transform and be able to use 100% of its powers and we see how she utilizes all of these abilities within chapter 35 rewriting the entire stigmata project, compare that to welt who barely can unlock the powers of the Herrscher core and even if assuming if welt can even be accepted into the 300k wills that is formed within the core of reason. Even before that welt was always weak as a Herrscher, just using star of eden damages his entire body just from the impact alone and he literally needs to recover from it for days to weeks onward. And people who think welt was ever as strong as sirin, remember welt couldn't fight sirin head on and just toyed with him, what's worse he had to use time dilation to stall sirin because the fact he could not beat her. Sirin ascendant wasn't even a full herrscher, she was just blessed with 5 gems before she becomes an ascendant and learn the truth of her abilities, proof is there when she can even create remannian manifold boxes that trace every trajectory of action and sequences something complex in mathematical models, even before that was weaker then welt especially since she didn't mastered her abilities to control the imaginary void space yet and even after she becomes an ascendant because she never masters her abilities after her awakening we never see her full potential not until second eruption 2018, We also know that Sirin has immense power compared to welt because we literally compared sirins and the 1st herrschers energy from their eruption to the bubble universe volume which is the volume of a solar system. Welt isn't that considering he cannot utilize the full powers of the Herrscher of reason for that example and he's stuck within the bare minimum. welt has canonically never done anything in the story to help beyond his gravitational blackhole which is the only god key he knows how to copy through the Herrscher core, and you know what the OG did? Copy and recode humanities weapons, recoded the fission missles that was going to destroy the city back in anti-entropy novel, created a barrier that would shield the entire city and more. unironically people who scale welt to aeon tier or emanator tier has never performed anything beyond compressing his Herrscher core using Herrscher of gravities authority back in his prime which he still requires gravity to do and he was even unsure if it could destroy someone like sirin, him trapping Kevin in the sea of quanta? He was using a barrier of memories using his will and scattered his authority and existence across just to do that and literally hid his butt there for years they weren't real bubble universes even joachim stated if you read the chapter yourself, we also see him "give up" his will to be a hero in his memories until we unlocked his heart, no joke we literally had an event to unlock welts strength and will back because he literally lost the will to be a hero. The only thing to scale by is his abilities, which is to affect the higher dimensions through his blackhole creation that comes from the 9th god key and that's an assumption if he could even ever attempt them like Herrscher of void does in the first place. Moreso seen people even comparing welt to other top tier herrschers like the trio, welt isn't comparable whatsoever and I dunno where people get that idea from. Welt lacks AP, lacks the range and even lacks the complete theory of controlling his powers to his full potential cause he was an underdog hero, the name welt shouldn't be disgraced. Joachim yang is a hero of the world but he wasn't a hero because he was overpoweredly strong, he was a hero because despite him being weak he's able to find his foot in and face whatever threatens the planet because that is what he vowed to do as the guardian of humanity. Welt Joyce wasn't a powerful Herrscher, he was a Herrscher of humanity the very first Herrscher who is human who managed to entangle the authority of a Herrscher and be able to control it. Bronya isn't the same as she's able to access the complete 100% of the Herrscher core and do things even welt Joyce wasn't able to do, create weapons beyond humanities future expectations and only limited to her imagination.
@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh39863 ай бұрын
He trapped Kevin in the sea of quanta
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@yddyhrxhtfxgfhxtfh3986 using the memory that's all it is. it's no bubble universe no nothing it's just his memories and kevin can't get out anyways without the gem of desire
@bocchiii.2 ай бұрын
Mid Yap session, not reading allat But anyway even without higher dimensionality bs a literal black hole would obliterate anyone in hsr via bending time and space and having 4d ap With higher dimensionality bs Welt ap stomps even harder
@kiana42372 ай бұрын
@@bocchiii. acheron cuts blackholes. tell he you haven't read the story without telling me you haven't read the story. welt doesn't even have the higher dimensionality aspect that's 4D in general which is still below IX.
@kiana42372 ай бұрын
@@bocchiii. what's even worse is acherons range and AP reaches over stellar system class since she affected the entire dreamscape of enna which basically runs the entire asdana star system and even welt admitted to how strong she was.
@MikanoRey3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤😂🎉🎉😢🎉
@UnliWok22 күн бұрын
Sad to say that we will not gonna see the prime welt ever again. He changed, he is not the same person that we use to see😮😮.😢
@adriantepes435522 күн бұрын
Prime Welt can't win either.... Literally.
@francescozoni346917 күн бұрын
@@adriantepes4355Imaginary Barriers negate any attack from Acheron, he is faster and can ignore durability. Jing Yuan victim gets fodderized
@Tanzuko33553 ай бұрын
В сюжете Ахерон остановила атаку вельта и могу его убить
@HanazukaNo.23 ай бұрын
Welt is hot but he doesnt stand a chance against Acheron ngl
@jakeblitzcoffie48593 ай бұрын
This is prime Welt. Current Welt is either equal or just below her in power.
@HanazukaNo.23 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 oh mb
@refuuo3 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 current welt would get one tapped by acheron
@jakeblitzcoffie48593 ай бұрын
@refuuo Nah. Star of Eden is cracked. Just read the manga Alien Space as an example.
@HanazukaNo.23 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 my bad lol
@thisleftoneyousawhere37744 ай бұрын
Ah yes. Prime Welt who has the least energy among all Herrschers, while unable to use even 50% of HoR power, against a literal Emanator of Nihility who slayed her world's HotE and then destroyed two planets with one slash (this, not mentioning how she obliterated the Annihilation Gang that could burn planets down). I love Welt Yang a lot, but he isn't the strongest out there in HSR, he isn't some god who's "able to defeat Aeons but chooses not to". I love him for how he finds a way to use his limited powers and make the most advantage of them. He is smart. He can guide the Express crew. Him being a HoR doesn't make him undefeated
@jakeblitzcoffie48594 ай бұрын
🗿
@adriantepes4355Ай бұрын
Well, not really. Welt can not win vs. Acheron
@ThegGogNot43993 күн бұрын
Acheron是IX的令使😅一刀差点劈碎Penacony,怎么看也是Acheron赢
@waffless51083 ай бұрын
Prime Welt solos hsr verse people who disagree can cope
@OrumaitiOАй бұрын
Welt>>Acheron in terms of everything.
@ya_boi_razor21 күн бұрын
by the way what are archeron equal To? it she equal to mei herrscher of thunder?
@jakeblitzcoffie485921 күн бұрын
@@ya_boi_razorAcheron scales somewhere in between Mei HoT and Mei HoO. So, Mei HoT < Acheron < Mei HoO. HoT is able to destroy a continent and is 4D with time hax and molecular manipulation. HoO is High Hyper - Low Outer and has 11D hax at bare minimum.
@ya_boi_razor20 күн бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 alr understand now
@adriantepes435520 күн бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859wrong. HoO is not even close to being as strong as Acheron
@adriantepes435520 күн бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 Each and every Herrscher is 3D physically.
@ajdinmuminovic910912 күн бұрын
I'm sorry to say that but it's official that she is way stronger than him the reason why is simple she isn't bound to simple limitations like the herrscher she's able to destroy the embodiments of the sea and the tree while welts power comes from them
@IlostMyAcount7 күн бұрын
This is still prime welt not even GGZ welt yet i heard he create 2 or maybe more universe just to train bronya(this maybe not true tho since i hear someone say it)
@jakeblitzcoffie4859Күн бұрын
He created 3 bubble worlds in the SoQ. So he created 3 planet sized realms in the SoQ, all of which scale to 11D.
@nothmm85824 ай бұрын
This has already been debunked so many times sk idk why this debate even exists. Zandar, the creator of Nuos The Erudtion has given us alot of info about the Honkai Cosmology than we knew before in Hi3. The entire Universe is the Imaginary Tree, each world/system in the universe is a branch of the imaginary tree and the time periods in which events take place on those worlds are the Leaves of the Imaginary Tree. Herrschers are in control of one branch of the Imaginary Tree (because their powers have been limited to Earth/Solar System). Emanators are in control of multiple branches of the Imaginary Tree (because a single Emanator is capable to destroying multiple worlds and some even capable of destroying entire galaxies for fun). So please do try to tell me how a Herrscher who lost all his powers fighting to Sirin can even defeat an Emanator capable of destroying Earth in a single strike? Also if you think a character from Earth knows more about the Imaginary Tree than the creator of an Aeon then i dont really want to have a conversation because you're xlearly delusional for saying that.
@minetfq7394 ай бұрын
All i can say is the "sea of quanta", said to be 11-D, herrschers can affect things in Sea of Quanta, not only that, welt once turned himself in to a wall to trap kevin in sea of Quanta which apparently is 11-D, being able to affect worlds or galaxies means nothing when you can affect higher dimensional things. Imaginary tree itself is 11-D and equal to SoQ so yea not a lot of Hi3rd is in imaginary tree, rather sea of quanta.
@Philspective.4 ай бұрын
And who says Acheron can destroy Earth in a single strike? Its not written or shown in HSR that she is acapable of that. If that is your reasoning, then we might also say that Welt can destroy Earth or any planet in a single wishful thinking if he wanted to in his prime just by imagining a weapon capable of doing it.
@lastorderx200014 ай бұрын
Affecting and being inside the imaginary verses are different things
@ruannari4 ай бұрын
@@Philspective. She was always capable of that
@ruannari4 ай бұрын
@@minetfq739 that's a very weakened like VERY VERY WEAKENED Kebin, Minet.
@ruiribeiro80103 ай бұрын
People overhype Welt so much. Acheron literally acts so fast she basically stops time, she took out Aventurine before Welt had time to even lift his wand at him. And sure, that's not prime Welt, but even before embracing Nihility and becoming its Emanator Acheron was already broken.
@kaneki47213 ай бұрын
It's not stop time ist just slowed time that looks stop, if you focus in the scene adventurin attack still move despise it's get slow down
@Unstably_Mental3 ай бұрын
Find you a women strong enough to cut a black hole
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@kaneki4721she stopped time.
@kiana42373 ай бұрын
@@Unstably_Mentalshe did that twice lmao
@kaneki47213 ай бұрын
@@kiana4237 if it's stop time why aventurine attack still move despise it's slow down???, And astral express crew move too despise they get slow down
@SAMLn222 ай бұрын
2.3: Nah Id Win
@sinahardan94474 ай бұрын
I really wanna try hsr after this video
@introersteller57213 ай бұрын
Acheron > prime Welt
@jakeblitzcoffie48593 ай бұрын
No. Lmao😂
@AmongUs-ok8rv3 ай бұрын
Tf is bro yappin about
@bennguyen19713 ай бұрын
Just finish 2.2 hsr lol! Acheron 1 shot Welt ez lol
@bliutusdivais3 ай бұрын
Did you miss the word "prime"??? Acheron is at her peak rn while welt isnt
@exeesportv23 ай бұрын
Welt : bruh id ez win
@counterffrk83513 ай бұрын
Obrigado por dificultar a leitura do vídeo sem deixar o público ter tempo de ler e de acompanhar o que está acontecendo na cena
@shlomokenan-fv3fe21 күн бұрын
Welt easy clap
@jinhre58773 ай бұрын
trash
@GODZILLASOLOskibiditoilet3 ай бұрын
Who is trash? The edit or the debate cause this is goddamn good
@AmongUs-ok8rv3 ай бұрын
Your trash
@louisrolandez96062 ай бұрын
Smh, should’ve used Thermodynamix as the song.
@Pojijing3 ай бұрын
Sorry welt neg
@johnnaida11325 күн бұрын
Acheron already traveled to time and space and even cut dimension hense why she can travel. I think power scaling is much larger compared to hi3. hi3 bosses universal threat meanwhile Hsr multi universal. Also herrschers are nothing compared to AEONS. Even kianna can't beat the weakest of all aeons I reckon.
@schneek.p.12914 күн бұрын
Tell me you didnt read acherons story without telling me why...
@jakeblitzcoffie4859Күн бұрын
Lmao😂 cope.
@jaskarnsingh63333 ай бұрын
Sirin (2 hersher)was a projection of finality and that dude was already having difficulties against the 2 hersher that was getting abituated to her powers and she is a percentage of finality a mere spek a little percentage of power of finality. Finality wich was defeated by acheron in her world. Im sorry but acheron takes the cake no diff. And im a hi3 fan i played a lot of it and welt is one fav cherecter. But putting feeling aside acheron takes the cake