Grow some balls take the banter but don't bet against your team

NO.........Real fans never want to see the team lose, losers want to see us lose. People who hate Spurs want to see us lose but real Spurs fans never want to see us lose. I'm almost 70 I've seen us win European and domestic trophies and I've seen us get relegated and come straight back up again and be better and win trophies. The losers in that crowd who wanted to see us lose would never go to a game if we ever got relegated again because they're losers they're not fans definately not supporters. The way you guys reacted to City scoring you're not Spurs fans you're just leeches making money off people who are possibly Spurs fans. A draw guaranteed Europa League football a loss leaves it in doubt.

I think AFTER the match, you can say “shame we lost, silver lining but at least Arsenal won’t win the title now”. You cannot, before the match, openly root for the opposition or your team to lose. That is embarrassing. You always want your team to win, before the match, and you make excuses to feel better afterwards

100% no. Never. Doesn't matter the consequences

Sim and Ben show their immaturity (still!) by basically getting the hump with Fans who have an alternative point of view to them. Outside of their Spurs Bubble, Alot of growing up to be done.

Please do not tell me that you all could not tell how different the atmosphere was...IT WAS SILENT...you need to go rewatch other home games and compare....and when there were cheers/chants it was all CITEHHHHH ...IT FELT LIKE WE WERE AT THE ETIHAD... I think the one time I heard "oh when the spurs" was when we went 2:0 down to city...

Real fans would never want their own team to lose. So the answer is no.

Absolutely pathetic guys. Heard every excuse to justify not supporting your team. Own it, FFS.

BEN WAS SINGING BLUE MOON 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

What I don't understand is how before the match a huge chunk of fans wanted to lose. Just look back at the comments in older videos. But now there must be people pretending they weren't part of it as it's 100% 'wanted to win' now. If I remember correctly the poll on the predicted line up video on this channel was 50/50

Yes! What fan would want their team to lose? But this situation was not something that can be easily seen on a regular basis. I think we should be able to look into the hearts of fans who supported the club, not just other people, but implicitly had no choice but to want more of a losing game. From the outside, you might think it's one of those games where you simply win or lose. However, based on their experience as fans who have supported this team for a long time, I think it can be explained that they even predicted what would happen after the game ended. I think fans of all teams in London feel the same way. I think fans who have already loved the team so much for a long time can predict what will happen even after the game, like looking at a chessboard, and know how to handle it in a better way. We can even see what would happen if our captain had scored in that situation. ex) Arsenal's true captain Son, etc. It probably created a situation that would get all kinds of memes and be ridiculed for over 10 years. And I hope you understand that it is not only the players and coaches who have to endure such ridicule, but also the fans who have supported the club for a long time. I would like to ask whether people who simply talk about losing and winning games ignore the history of the fans who share the club's history and culture, and rather think of the fans as tools that only support them. And actually, I think the best way is if Ange had won at least one more game out of that four consecutive losses rather than being dissatisfied with the fans about this situation, the fans wouldn't have been in this situation.

No. That’s my answer. Because as a fan, my objective is to support and love Tottenham Hotspur, and always hope to win. Yes. I know about the intense rivalry but so what? I don’t give a damn about Arsenal nor their fans. But wanting our team to lose? I feel like I’ve let down the players who always give everything for victory and the team, like Son, Micky, Vic, etc.

NO! This is exactly the kind of losing mentality the club has had for years. We've had winning managers come in and not win anything at our club. All 3 of them have said the same thing now. Coincidence? Why would you want your team to lose any football match. It's Utterly ridiculous!

Any “fan” that hopes their team looses is NOT a real fan.

When you have no history to defend, I guess you don’t care if other clubs are setting records. It’s one of the reasons you can’t win anything

Never. I wanted us to win, felt good not needing a shower afterwards washing away the guilt of not supporting my team.

You guys need to have a video or panel or something on trying to address the very real split within this fanbase that has happened because of this game. It’s real, it’s like a bomb has exploded.

Its like betting on your team to lose. A dirty feeling when you win the money. Never bet against your team and never root for them to lose.

I think we should move on from this conversation as it’s a bit divisive. Having said that, Ben and Sim are now trying to justify wanting us to lose. Terms like ‘gifting’ and ‘allowing’ are just deflecting. The sad reality is the masochistic fetishisation of arsenal football club. They don’t validate Spurs and we have to change our mentality. Wanting us to lose so they lose is a losers mentality irrelevant of the circumstances. I also think it’s a bit hypocritical to call out Levy for his antics (rightly so) and his loser mentality, then have the same mentality when it comes to Arsenal winning the league. Brains trying not to bite the hand that feeds him…? Waffling! For the record born and raised in Stoke Newington and Tottenham. Spurs fan since ’79!

You helped in bringing the negatives and the split Jonny. Have a look in the mirror and ask yourself what do I want. 1. A positive attitude going forward or 2. Same old stuff as always. Help change the attitude and you might be surprised how much that helps the club

Rivalry should not warrant fans to want Spurs to lose. Those fans should be ashamed of themselves. They have a poor mentality which is draining the club. We must back Ange and focus on our project period! As a Spurs fan to all the Spurs fans who wanted Spurs to lose, shame on you once again! Just stop being Spurs fans if that's the kind of negative energy you want to bring to the club.

Nigel I’ve been supporting Spurs since 78 and also seen Spurs win cups in the 80s but if I have a choice of seeing Spurs lose a game that’s has no more relevance than a friendly or win and probably give the title to Arsenal,I’ll take the loss.I would say it’s the lesser thing to take.Coys.

I think this title is totally wrong by giving the impression that all fans wanted to lose. I would argue most fans didn’t want to lose and the media blew this situation up out of nothing and we played straight into it. We need to start charging Arsenal for rent for the space that have taken in some of our heads.

I definitely wanted us to loose the game but as a fan its wrong to want my team to loose. It was such a disappointing feeling too

It is you people don’t get it. When rivalry going so badly your fans wants the team to lose a football game, the sprint of this club is broken. When you can not move away from hating a group of people and this masked your focus, you personally have issue. This is almost racism where people hate a group of people and talk about bad history just because. You are not welcome to the future of football.

I like this channel and your content but you really annoyed me with this rivalry nonsense. We Are Tottenham, its not We Are Tottenham unless...

Oh Ange forgive them, for they do not know what they do

Quality show

I want Tottenham to win every game ……….”except “ total hypocrisy

I wanted Spurs to win the game. I just didn't feel like if we won that would be the sole reason Arsenal would win the title. There are other teams who have taken points off Man City this season - you might as well say that THEY gave Arsenal the title. Just another take on it.

I only have one concern to raise with you, let's imagine the scenario where Chelsea, West Ham or Crystal Palace in any case another rival Tottenham were to play the title race and we were playing against Arsenal let's say would you go to the stadium in also hoping to lose because you would like one not to win over the other? football logic must take precedence over rivalries we must not concentrate on our opponents otherwise it shows how inferior we are to them but rather play our own game and at the end of the season we evaluate. In another sense if we had given Arsenal the title of course it would have hurt and they would have harped on us about it for a good while maybe for the rest of our lives but on the other hand it would have pushed us to encourage our teams more in such a way. so that we can catch up with them and go for a title of our own, that's a healthy rivalry, not a reality that pushes mediocrity. That's just my opinion

YES. If it was the other way around, they would do exactly the same. Fans can only dream, we do not control the game and the outcome. It was a dream come true. Ange, was mistaken in us not wanting to win! We have been waiting for a long time.

Enough now boys and girls - far too much navel gazing on this, my view on changing the culture or mantality of fans is not really in Ange's contract and seems very ill advised !

Romero to Pep: "get me the F out of this club!"

Spuds gonna go all out Spursy and finish second in a one-horse race for the Europa spot come Sunday

STOP talking ALWAYS play to win! That’s it!

It was a very unique situation. I cant think of another situation where id want us to lose. I dont think its crazy to not want to gift arsenal the title when we were most likely gonna come 5th either way.

Cannot blame any Spurs fan wanting to lose on this occasion. There is no way in hell they can help the Arse holes win the league under any circumstances

I'm actually shocked that this is so divisive. I feel like this 100% football culture and I've never seen this kind of situation cause such a stir. I'm coming at the question like, not "did you want us to lose?", but "don't you at least have mixed feelings about this match??" If the answer is no, it seems largely driven by the nostalgia of very senior fans, or not having been brought up in this rivalry, not wanting to understand or care about what it means. I think the comments bear this out: a lot of people saying Tottenham's fiercest rivalry is meaningless to them. There's your answer. The global appeal as well, means that people who pulled Spurs out of a hat, following a random team in the now Premier League era, have no connection or personal investment, compared to kids who grew up giving and receiving bloody noses on the playground over football allegiance lol... So back off everyone, recognise people's different backgrounds, where they're coming from, acknowledge that this is a different animal than alot of people are used to in sports, and agree to disagree.

Didn't know Klopp is a Spurs fan in this video 😂😂😂

ANGE OUT