Were Helicopters Used In WWII?

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The Second World War usually doesn't evoke thoughts of helicopters. For the most part, aircraft associated with the war involves fighters and bombers. Most associate the Vietnam War with the use of helicopters. But did helicopters exist during WWII? In short, yes, there were quite a few used. In today's video we ask, were helicopters used in WWII?
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@PremierHistory
@PremierHistory 11 ай бұрын
What are your thoughts on the helicopters of World War Two? Did you know that helicopters were used during the war? Welcome back! If you are new here make sure to hit subscribe to expand your knowledge on Military History and join the growing Premier History Community!
@freedompodcast4518
@freedompodcast4518 11 ай бұрын
I did know they being used in World War 2, but I did not know in that amount of extensive uses. I thought they were just for bringing high-ranking officers From A to B.
@_Hotaru__
@_Hotaru__ 11 ай бұрын
2:04 7 thousand meters or 7km. Seven thousand kilometers is roughly 4349 thousand miles!
@croskerk
@croskerk 11 ай бұрын
Yes
@QuizmasterLaw
@QuizmasterLaw 11 ай бұрын
Yes, existed and were used in combat for reconnaissance. most interesting heli was the flittner kite unpowered U-Boat foldable heli.
@tasjan9190
@tasjan9190 11 ай бұрын
"Where Eagles Dare"! The Germans are amazing, they have created absolute marvels of innovative engineering! ❤️💪🇩🇪
@cherokee43v6
@cherokee43v6 11 ай бұрын
If you look closely at that second German production helicopter it does NOT have a single rotor. It has two interleaving rotors mounted side by side and offset by 90 degrees to each other.
@JanChvojka
@JanChvojka 11 ай бұрын
Same desing is stil in use - for example Kaman K-Max en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaman_K-MAX
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 11 ай бұрын
It also DIDN`T have a ceiling of 7000 Kilometres!!! 1st Helo in Space?
@steveyountz9184
@steveyountz9184 11 ай бұрын
@@moosifer3321 Might have meant 7,000 meters, which would still be pretty high from what I have read.
@PJay-wy5fx
@PJay-wy5fx 11 ай бұрын
@steveyountz9184 right, 7,000m is highly unlikely as that would have required a pressurised cabin. Which I highly doubt this aircraft has.
@juliane__
@juliane__ 11 ай бұрын
For certain it never reached 7.000m altitude. This can only special purpose helis of today. The two engines would have been way too heavy to make this possible. I remember 10 years ago or something there was the first fly above the Mt. Everest.
@Danger3512
@Danger3512 11 ай бұрын
7,000 kilometres ceiling ?? That’s higher than the SR 72!! Germans were really advanced, that’s around 23,000,000 feet, respect !!
@rongendron8705
@rongendron8705 11 ай бұрын
I hope the cabin was pressurized or the pilots had oxygen!
@mytinu
@mytinu 11 ай бұрын
More than the Space Shuttle 🫣
@richardbradley2335
@richardbradley2335 11 ай бұрын
More of a voice'o' than a typo.
@hansvonmannschaft9062
@hansvonmannschaft9062 11 ай бұрын
They already foretold they could eventually be used to resupply a future Space Station, which could be, say, at a 420 kms high orbit. Being choppers and thus able to stay put, they wouldn't have too much trouble in outer space with... holdonasec there... yeah has to have been a typo 😂🤣 Or a voice'o, as the previous commenter suggested 🙂.
@bavery6957
@bavery6957 11 ай бұрын
7000 meters, of course... 😊
@bluetv6386
@bluetv6386 11 ай бұрын
An altitude of 7000 kilometers is quite something....
@jonkelly7908
@jonkelly7908 11 ай бұрын
Even Von Braun would have been impressed😂
@ronvanwegen
@ronvanwegen 11 ай бұрын
Legend has it that it's still up there!
@alisdairmclean8605
@alisdairmclean8605 11 ай бұрын
Yes, the Germans were the first to go into orbit.
@geoffreycarson2311
@geoffreycarson2311 11 ай бұрын
??????? Metres 😂NOT Kilometres !!! lol g
@swarnamohanty3121
@swarnamohanty3121 11 ай бұрын
7000 meters.
@blindbrick
@blindbrick 11 ай бұрын
2:06 "Had an altitude of 7000 kilometer". That is very impressive. 🙂
@jeromewagschal9485
@jeromewagschal9485 11 ай бұрын
Indeed...Not only did the Germans use helicopters during WW2, they were actually able to send them into space...They were good...
@sirbum1918
@sirbum1918 11 ай бұрын
This is how they built that secret Nazi base on the moon I saw in a documentary a few years back. Think it was called Iron Sky.
@viorelpopescu4990
@viorelpopescu4990 11 ай бұрын
Cum sa crezi asemene idiotenie cind avioanele din cel ww altitudinea de lucru era cuprinsa inte 4500 m si rare ori depaseau 5500 - 6000 m altitudine, multe care se incumetau peste 6 000 m cadeau ca bolovanii ( mai ales cele cu carburator) 😅😅😅
@qdaniele97
@qdaniele97 11 ай бұрын
​@@jeromewagschal9485I think he meant meters, which is still pretty impressive
@jeromewagschal9485
@jeromewagschal9485 11 ай бұрын
@@qdaniele97 Yes, of course 🙂 That's still pretty high for a helicopter... Especially during WW2...
@Junior-vt9ly
@Junior-vt9ly 11 ай бұрын
The FL 282 was still a 2 rotor design. They where both located at the top. They where angled outward slightly and timed at a 90 degree offset to prevent the blades from colliding
@martinsaunders2942
@martinsaunders2942 11 ай бұрын
This…it was a syncropter, like the later Kaman Husky and Kaman K Max
@ralphlorenz4260
@ralphlorenz4260 11 ай бұрын
@@martinsaunders2942 Right, and not a coincidence. Anton Flettner came to the USA under Operation Paperclip (not just rocket engineers!) and became the chief designer at Kaman.... I talk about the history of helicopters a little in my book on Ingenuity and Dragonfly published last year by AIAA
@manifestman132
@manifestman132 11 ай бұрын
@@martinsaunders2942 Also other Flettner designs Kaman also had a few others.
@darryldyke1264
@darryldyke1264 11 ай бұрын
Did some work for Lufthansa in a small town called Raunheim a few years ago. There's a street called Anton Flettner Strasse there. He was a very clever guy in more than just the field of helicopters.
@lucianoandrade5007
@lucianoandrade5007 11 ай бұрын
The 1st combat rescue mission was carried out by a Sikorsky YR-4 in Burma in April 1944. This mission was a great adventure for the distance to be covered and for only being able to take one survivor at a time, there were 4 in total, I believe that deserves a video, do you agree?
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely, but The History Guy already covered it.
@mandernachluca3774
@mandernachluca3774 11 ай бұрын
I think the first ever combat rescue under war conditions was actually carried out by an FA 223 Dragon. They rescued a downed BF109G pilot.
@lucianoandrade5007
@lucianoandrade5007 11 ай бұрын
@@mandernachluca3774 I don't know about the rescue of a BF-109 pilot, what I've read is about transporting a downed fighter without a pilot. If you can provide the source of this information, I would appreciate it.
@lucianoandrade5007
@lucianoandrade5007 11 ай бұрын
@@dukecraig2402 Thanks.
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 11 ай бұрын
I DO!
@genevieveard2246
@genevieveard2246 11 ай бұрын
@3:02 the Flettner FL-282 is a 'Synchrocopter' it uses 2 intermeshed counter rotating 2-bladed rotor heads, you see this on the Kaman HH-43 Husky and the Kaman K-Max. Helicopters require counter torque in order to not spin out of control. The Synchrocopter is a unique compact design that for smaller helicopters makes a lot of sense. It requires fewer parts over all meaning it can be built as a far cheaper cost than other helicopter types. Besides lower production cost, because there are fewer parts the maintenance and repair costs are greatly reduced. The Kaman K-Max is highly popular because it is so inexpensive to buy, operate, and maintain.
@galier2
@galier2 11 ай бұрын
The Kaman helicopters are direct descendants of the Flettner helicopter. Anton Flettner worked for Kaman after the war and developed the K-Max for Kaman
@Rexxie44
@Rexxie44 10 ай бұрын
I always wished they would get more representation in gaming. They're incredibly underrated for what it's worth.
@Cookiememes.
@Cookiememes. 9 ай бұрын
introducing war thunder, a game where the vr people in helicopters will destroy your tank
@charlie44266
@charlie44266 11 ай бұрын
WOW! "7000 kilo meters"! You get an astronaut badge for that.
@lhkraut
@lhkraut 11 ай бұрын
Flettner helicopters had duel rotors intermeshed. It looks like one, but it is two. By using counter rotating rotors, it could be flown without a tail rotor and all the power could be used for lift.
@c3aloha
@c3aloha 11 ай бұрын
The R4 was also used for Operation Ivory Soap which was classified at the time. They were aircraft repair ships that went from island to island to repair bombers and fighters as they moved across the Pacific. The helicopter ferried parts and mechanics to the airstrip
@freedompodcast4518
@freedompodcast4518 11 ай бұрын
I did know they being used in World War 2, but I did not know in that amount of extensive uses. I thought they were just for bringing high-ranking officers From A to B.
@jb6027
@jb6027 11 ай бұрын
Best video I've seen on the subject yet!
@CrassSpektakel
@CrassSpektakel 9 ай бұрын
My mother worked after the war for the company which had build those old German Helicopters. As kids we often climbed around the exhibition helicopters in the front of the factory while waiting for our parents to finish work. They had several of them around their factory even up to the late 1980ths until the company was finally absorbed into Airbus and the local factory got closed.
@davidforbregd2096
@davidforbregd2096 11 ай бұрын
Great video!! Learn something new every day!!!
@johnvorres4351
@johnvorres4351 11 ай бұрын
Studied each and every one of the helicopters of ww2 ! Glad you reminded me of them !
@spg3331
@spg3331 11 ай бұрын
damn germany really had outer space helis in WW2 @ 2:06 "7000 kilometers" should be "7000 meters"
@martinswan9175
@martinswan9175 11 ай бұрын
What a great video, had no idea!!
@kenelliott286
@kenelliott286 11 ай бұрын
The RAF had some Sikorsky R-4's from late 1944. They were used by 529 Squadron for radar calibration. Previously they used Avro Rota autogyros.
@MGB-learning
@MGB-learning 11 ай бұрын
Great video
@tricosteryl
@tricosteryl 11 ай бұрын
Awsome footage :)
@paulfreeman7719
@paulfreeman7719 11 ай бұрын
Very good video. I learned several new pointers about when helicopters started. The Germans were greatly ahead with their rotorcraft innovations, especially on the U-Boats. I mainly knew about Korean War helicopter development. Again..very good job..thank you. History reader..just visited Imperial War Museum in London. I highly recommend to visit. From Washinton State, USA.
@PremierHistory
@PremierHistory 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support Paul, glad you enjoyed the video
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 11 ай бұрын
Look into German test pilot Hannah Reitsch. She was the first person to fly a helicopter indoors. This took place in Berlin before the war. She was also a test pilot for the Me163 Komet. Amazing woman, to say the least. Great video my friend!! Subscribed. 👍🏽
@clausbremen
@clausbremen 11 ай бұрын
The name is „Reitsch“, Hanna Reitsch - with a „t“ in the middle.
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 11 ай бұрын
@clausbremen Ah, thank you, Claus. I must admit, a bit of time has gone past since I learned about her. Off to edit now... 🍻
@warpartyattheoutpost4987
@warpartyattheoutpost4987 11 ай бұрын
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712, that bird flew a lot of birds.
@c3aloha
@c3aloha 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately an unrepentant Nazi too though to her dying day. In Untergang she wanted to join him in the bunker and flew the last airplane out of Berlin.
@BagoPorkRinds
@BagoPorkRinds 11 ай бұрын
It wasn't a helicopter that she flew indoors, it was a autogyro aka a gyrocopter.
@andrewmcphee8965
@andrewmcphee8965 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting video thank you.
@jasonz7788
@jasonz7788 11 ай бұрын
Great job thank you 👍
@mrreed-gf4go
@mrreed-gf4go 11 ай бұрын
Great documentary.. i know helicopter but not the history.. i hope this channel grow. Keep it up!..
@saltyroe3179
@saltyroe3179 11 ай бұрын
Dad (still alive) claims to have seen one of submarine based autogiros while an officer in the Merchant Marine in WW2. Before the war his professor at NYU did vibration analysis on Sikorsky's prototype helicopter prototype. The professor hired my dad to go take measurements on the prototype, so dad knew about helicopters before WW2
@kenrobba5831
@kenrobba5831 11 ай бұрын
That is interesting to me. After working on helios in the Army ( mid sixties) I got to real dislike the beasts. Fast forward; years later I was working avionics - big boon in technology that made “radio” aids and communication real practical and “affordable.” By chance meet a couple mad scientist that used VIBRATIONS to rig, adjust and trim rotors and drivelines. It made maintenance a predictable endeavor instead of a hit and proposition. They knew Mr. Sikorsky and found him to be cantankerous (funny historical note).
@saltyroe3179
@saltyroe3179 11 ай бұрын
@@kenrobba5831 Sikorsky was a genius, but, he had a hard time figuring out how to make vibration manageable. That is why Sikorsky hired my dad's professor. Sikorsky paid $10 an hour to the professor and the professor paid my dad 10 cents an hour to take measurements on the prototype. While dad was sitting in the prototype, a gust of wind caused the rotors to spin and the prototype to to take off. When the tie down chain's slack was gone the prototype came down hard. My dad thus claims to be one of the earliest people to fly in a helicopter:-)
@doubleT84
@doubleT84 11 ай бұрын
If he could clearly see the helicopter, the submarine could have spotted his ship at the same distance without the use of the kite. So why would the submarine go through setting up the kite, which would stop it from quickly diving?
@viorelpopescu4990
@viorelpopescu4990 11 ай бұрын
​@@saltyroe3179 cred maidegraba era pus pe glume
@viorelpopescu4990
@viorelpopescu4990 11 ай бұрын
​@@doubleT84 se pare ca nu intelegi multe Inaltimea zmeului putea fi contolata si astfel se putea calcula cu usurinta distanta dintre nava observata si submarin si la fel se putea calcula timpul de scufundare si disparitie s-au a ramine mut in adincuri ptru o vreme Greu pune min a pe carte lasa bazagoniile
@erich930
@erich930 11 ай бұрын
I had no idea about the U-Boat rotor kite! That’s so cool. Fun fact: there is an ultra-light aircraft design today called the gyro plane which operates in a very similar way to the rotor kite. The main difference today being the aircraft is moved through the air by a propeller instead of a U-Boat!
@TheOriginalCoda
@TheOriginalCoda 11 ай бұрын
There's one of those German gyro-kite/gyro-gliders in a museum near me. Fascinated me as a kid.
@keithwalker3460
@keithwalker3460 11 ай бұрын
the 282 is a twin rota , 2 two blade rotas crossing each outher
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 11 ай бұрын
You learn something everyday.I'd seen photos of similar WW2 things and assumed that they were autogyros rather than helicopters.I always thought that exotic fare like helicopters and hovercraft were children of the 1950's.
@manifestman132
@manifestman132 11 ай бұрын
Technically the Flettner is a Syncrote (intermeshing rotor helicopter). Great video always nice to see early helicopters.
@vonMohl
@vonMohl 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting.
@galier2
@galier2 11 ай бұрын
Flettner worked for the American Company Karman after WWII. The Karman helicopter still use to this day the double rotor system that Flettner introduced during war.
@user-ph2lb6od4k
@user-ph2lb6od4k 11 ай бұрын
Veery veery good.🙏
@gino7444
@gino7444 11 ай бұрын
2:08 7000 km ?????
@paweadamik8828
@paweadamik8828 11 ай бұрын
2:04 "Altitude of 7000km" it's a monster :D
@Broken_Arrow58
@Broken_Arrow58 11 ай бұрын
First time I've seen, let alone even heard of helicopter use in WWII. Thumbs up!
@Thomas..Anderson
@Thomas..Anderson 11 ай бұрын
2:05 Altitude of 7000 kilometers would put it about 17 times higher than International Space Station. Helicopter rotors loose some efficiency up there so this is truly a remarkable aeronautical (or is it cosmonautical) achievement.
@veronicalogotheti1162
@veronicalogotheti1162 11 ай бұрын
Thank you
@alexlittle5237
@alexlittle5237 11 ай бұрын
Altitude of 7,000km??? (22,965,879 Feet) Hahahahaha
@michaeltagg492
@michaeltagg492 11 ай бұрын
Obviously narrator knew nothing about helicopters, even taking into account mixing up KM''s with mt's there is hardly any modern helicopter's can operate over 7000 mt's never mind a underpowered piston engined one. He also made the mistake of saying the 208 had one rotor when it had 2 contra rotating.
@hernerweisenberg7052
@hernerweisenberg7052 11 ай бұрын
@@michaeltagg492 there are actually a few with a service ceiling of 7000m, being pushed hard some of them can land on mount everests 8848m summit.
@indigohammer5732
@indigohammer5732 11 ай бұрын
The Dragon had an altitude of 7000 KM?
@roykliffen9674
@roykliffen9674 11 ай бұрын
It really was a secret prototype for the V2
@Ivy2D
@Ivy2D 11 ай бұрын
7000 kilometers ? that is almost geosynchronous orbit...
@hectormunoz6052
@hectormunoz6052 11 ай бұрын
In your Intro , you forgot to mention the Rolling Stones playing while the Hueys are flying over the jungle . I always hear " Painted Black " when i think about that
@jenniferkelly6931
@jenniferkelly6931 11 ай бұрын
All that reminds me of the film "Apocalypse now", with the Stones singing "Satisfaction" ...
@pjcarter8230
@pjcarter8230 11 ай бұрын
Hi, Technically the Flettner had two rotors, the were intermeshing and contra rotating to eliminate the torque effect. Sikorski used the tail rotor to achieve the same effect.
@rocketcello5354
@rocketcello5354 11 ай бұрын
The Avro Rota, an autogyro, was used to calibrate costal radar system on the british coast. Another little interesting plane.
@silvertalon007
@silvertalon007 11 ай бұрын
The Flettner Kolibri is one of my favorite crafts, we need more synchrocoptors in this generation.
@heryhery428
@heryhery428 11 ай бұрын
Wow...amazing
@marienfeld07
@marienfeld07 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video, I knew about German chopera.
@LudosErgoSum
@LudosErgoSum 11 ай бұрын
MURICA: HELI-copter! GERMANY: HEIL-copter! ...and that's why the war started, kids.
@TheOtherSteel
@TheOtherSteel 11 ай бұрын
02:07 -- "...7,000 kilometers, or 23,000 feet." -- 7,000 kilometers = 2.29 million feet
@subdawg1331
@subdawg1331 11 ай бұрын
i knew they used them ... well done video thanks
@Lettersinthesand-wp5rj
@Lettersinthesand-wp5rj 11 ай бұрын
The U-Boat copter was completely powerless and basically a suicide plane. If the spotter marked a destroyer or any other U-Boat Hunter, they unlocked him, made an alarm dive and let him drown.
@ncooper8438
@ncooper8438 9 ай бұрын
Interesting to see the smaller copters being thrown around the sky like stunt machines. The only thing not done was inverted!
@peterlee4682
@peterlee4682 11 ай бұрын
The first helicopter crossing of the English Channel was made by a captured German helicopter being flown to an English base.
@alsanchez5038
@alsanchez5038 11 ай бұрын
7000 km altitude is really high! Seems to be a part of the space program.
@DeltaDemon1
@DeltaDemon1 11 ай бұрын
An example of the FL282, which I think is called the Kolibri, can be found in the Ottawa air Museum. They used to keep it in the back partly assembled. I don't know if they moved it to the front but it's a cool looking piece.
@maxvb9764
@maxvb9764 11 ай бұрын
Great video, but I miss a reference to Juan de la Cierva's work on gyroplanes.
@BlackSkull1984
@BlackSkull1984 10 ай бұрын
Kid: Mom, when do helicopters exist? Mom: it's a long story, a long story that cannot be tell the whole script
@plasmadrone3123
@plasmadrone3123 11 ай бұрын
02:08 Seven THOUSAND Kms. WHOAA!! o__o P.S: I know it's meant to be 7000 metres :) :)
@Wolfen443
@Wolfen443 11 ай бұрын
That was a hell of a Typo, an extra zero there puts it in range of dance flight. But these prototypes were well built and opened the way for today's great helicopters.
@theowlfromduolingo7982
@theowlfromduolingo7982 11 ай бұрын
2:08 damn 7000km? The Germans left the planet with an early helicopter
@gijsv8419
@gijsv8419 11 ай бұрын
7000 kilometer height ? It must be going to the moon
@johnp8131
@johnp8131 11 ай бұрын
I have read in Skorzeny's biography that German helicopters were a possible option for use in the rescue of Mussolini from Gran Sasso in 1943? However they were forced to opt for gliders, due to serviceability problems?
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 11 ай бұрын
Hi John... from what I've read a Major Mors (? Might have the spelling wrong) decided to go with gliders instead of helicopters. The technology was just too new for his liking... and the gliders could be released at a distance from Gran Sasso, keeping noise to a minimum. I've always been intrigued by this daring, brilliant and successful raid. Skorzeny was quite the soldier!!
@johnp8131
@johnp8131 11 ай бұрын
@@jerryjeromehawkins1712 Correct spelling. Harald Mors was the main man to plan and lead the raid. Skorzeney, although there, was certainly prone to self-aggrandisement. Today, due to propaganda at the time and subsequently, due to his latter exploits, you would think it all down to Skorzeny?
@nematolvajkergetok5104
@nematolvajkergetok5104 9 ай бұрын
Neither the USSR, nor the UK or Japan had any helicopters in WW2. They all experimented with autogyros though. Autogyros were big before WW2, and if not for the early death of Juan de la Cierva, the inventor of the autogyro, the helicopter might be just a curiosity today.
@KlipsenTube
@KlipsenTube 11 ай бұрын
3:10 the Fletner Kolibri had two intermeshing rotors - and no tail rotor. Just like the Kaman Huskie.
@harrythewoollyman
@harrythewoollyman 9 ай бұрын
My dad was in the 20th Army Air force and he hatted them called them old whirley birds. I think they had a few to transport officers around and medical duties. When they used them in Vietnam he just cursed and called them useless.
@Boatperson
@Boatperson 6 ай бұрын
I had no idea choppers were used in WW2! That’s why I put the question into you tube search engine. So glad I did! I’ve been to Flying Legends Air Shows in England but never seen or heard mention of helicopters!
@mikehherron4800
@mikehherron4800 11 ай бұрын
As noted by another viewer, the FL282 had 2 counter rotating rotors.
@kannah4394
@kannah4394 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@Marce159951
@Marce159951 11 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm sorry but the Flettener helicopter that is shown on the video seems to have two counter rotative rotors, not a single one. Great video!
@dwainmorris7854
@dwainmorris7854 11 ай бұрын
Thank you I had no idea Chappers were used in WWII now can you do a story on Germans useing those experimental jey pacpacks in WWII
@PObermanns
@PObermanns 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting. I am a retired Navy / civilian helicopter pilot, and I knew about the German designs. However, I did not know about the Sikorsky R-4 seeing use in WW-II. It happens that just last night, I met a young lady who told me that her grandfather had flown helos in that war, and later for the OSS - the forerunner of the CIA.
@robgraham5697
@robgraham5697 11 ай бұрын
I knew about the German helicopter designs. I did not know that they had been used. I hadn't even heard of the 'powered kite' used by the U-Boats. I also did not know that the Sikorsky design had actually seen use in WWII. Thanks for this video. Much enjoyed.
@aussie6910
@aussie6910 11 ай бұрын
Takom make a model of the FA 330 in 1/16 scale. Hanna Reitsch gave helicopter demo's inside the Deutschlandhalle in the late 1930's after she taught herself how to fly the thing (Fa 61).
@CAMacKenzie
@CAMacKenzie 11 ай бұрын
The Flettner was not a single rotor machine. It had 2 rotors, intermeshing, like later Kaman designs. This required very careful synchronization. The FA-330 was an engineless autogyro. The aircraft shown at 6:21 is a Kellett KD-1B autogyro which, from June 1939 to June 1940, flew U.S. Mail between Camden, NJ and Philadelphia. Kellett later built a couple of experimental intermeshing helicopter designs.
@jcd-s8v
@jcd-s8v 10 ай бұрын
the "fu*ker Ach gayless" caught me of guard
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 11 ай бұрын
One advantage of helicopters such as the Flettner and various US and Russian machines was the lack if a need for a tail rotor to compensate for rotor torque.
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 11 ай бұрын
Ehhhh, still have to drive a second main rotor. Not sure there's a great deal of advantage there or it would have become the standard instead of a tail rotor.
@johnhickman106
@johnhickman106 11 ай бұрын
@@shelbyseelbach9568It’s a huge advantage, but more complex to design and build. When I flew MH-53J/Ms, we lost over 1400 shaft horsepower to counter torque, verse all the power going to vertical lift, like an MH-47G. We had similar horsepower numbers, but the Chinook could hover at a higher gross weight than we could. The loss isn’t due to driving another gearbox, it’s the converting of power laterally instead of vertically.
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 11 ай бұрын
@@johnhickman106 My statement stands. If it was worth it, it would be the norm, which it isn't.
@johnhickman106
@johnhickman106 11 ай бұрын
@@shelbyseelbach9568 No, you said there wasn’t a great deal of advantage. It is, which is why some modern helicopters do have that design. But my retort still stands.
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 11 ай бұрын
@@johnhickman106 When did I say there isn't a great deal of advantage? I'll wait?
@bob_btw6751
@bob_btw6751 11 ай бұрын
Saw a Fletner 282 on display at the US Air & Space Museum in Washington DC many decades ago.
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 11 ай бұрын
3:12 Looks like the Fl-282 was a dual rotor aircraft. Single engined, but with a split transmission to allow the rotors to intermesh with opposite rotations. Kaman more fully developed the concept for the US military postwar.
@alancranford3398
@alancranford3398 11 ай бұрын
I found out about the American WW2 helicopters in 1972 because a friend had a collection of WW2 aviation magazines.
@mikmik9034
@mikmik9034 11 ай бұрын
1931 was the first successful Auto-Gyro, a precourser to Helicopters. 'Featured' in some early films.
@qtrfoil
@qtrfoil 4 ай бұрын
3:06 The Flettner Fl 282 was NOT a single rotor helicopter. Instead, it had two different rotors mounted on separate shafts mounted at a slight angle to one another. This allowed the two rotors to "intermesh" with one another as they rotated in different directions. The torque generated by each rotor cancelled out the other, and made the more typical tail rotor unneccessary. Flettner later became the chief designer of the Kaman aerospace company, which manufactured intermeshing helicopters later including the HH-43 helicopter used by the U.S. Air Force in the 1950s. More recently Kaman built the K-MAX aircraft with the intermeshing rotor system, which was designed for use as an "aerial truck" for missions like logging. The U.S. Marine Corps experimented with two unmanned variants in Afghanistan to provide logistics support without the need for trucks to travel dangerous roadways.
@typograf62
@typograf62 11 ай бұрын
I knew about the helicopters and autogyros or "kites". But I did not know that the US had helicopters in use "for real" during WW2. Always glad to learn.
@frankgarcia8378
@frankgarcia8378 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video with english/japanese/etc helicopters used durin the war!
@jerryumfress9030
@jerryumfress9030 10 ай бұрын
The one Hannah Reich flew in the stadium I believe was an auto gyro
@weirdguy564
@weirdguy564 11 ай бұрын
At 3:07 the statement of "Unlike the previous designs, this featured a SINGLE rotor above the fuselage." Uh, no. It has two rotors right next to each other. Two. They're close by each other, but there are in fact two. They "intermesh" with each other so they don't hit each other, similar to the beaters of a common kitchen hand mixer (either electric or hand cranked ones).
@chrissinclair4442
@chrissinclair4442 11 ай бұрын
Glad you had the Faa330
@lokro7722
@lokro7722 11 ай бұрын
The 2 rotors, side by side, aren’t used anymore. But the biggest helicopter used this configuration. The style of the 282 is the same of the K-Max. Not bad ! But clearly the R4 is the first of our modern and versatile helicopters. Well the add of the « fenestron » by the French is a good and elegant perfectionnement ;)
@1joshjosh1
@1joshjosh1 11 ай бұрын
I knew the Germans had dabbled into helicopters but this was a good video that definitely put everything into perspective nicely !! Good video
@martinsaunders2942
@martinsaunders2942 11 ай бұрын
Credit where credit is due.. the Fokker Archelis Dragon was a very, very impressive , powerful and efficient helicopter for its time. At the end of the war a couple were flown from Germany to Britain…becoming the first helicopter to cross the English Channel.
@CAMacKenzie
@CAMacKenzie 11 ай бұрын
That's Focke-Achgelis.
@mliittsc63
@mliittsc63 11 ай бұрын
I've heard that the US Marines tested gyrocopters in the thirties, but I've never heard any details. I'm curious as to why they were not further developed.
@chamberlane2899
@chamberlane2899 11 ай бұрын
From what I can gather it seems to be a combination of a couple of factors. The gyrocopters available at the time suffered from very low top speeds making them less than ideal as a front-line combat aircraft. Their payloads were also too small to be considered for transport roles. That left liaison, though there the increased mechanical complexity of the gyrocopter led to it being superseded by the simpler J-4 and J-5 whose simple construction made them more suitable for austere operating conditions.
@virginiosavani
@virginiosavani 11 ай бұрын
The modern version of flattener fl282 intermeshing rotors is the K-MAX COPTER!
@jbreefer148
@jbreefer148 11 ай бұрын
I ❤ Helicopters. Especially the tilt rotors and compound helicopters.
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine 2 ай бұрын
They flatter dual rotor heli is very nice.
@KG-li7kg
@KG-li7kg 11 ай бұрын
Der "Focke Helikopter wurde von Hern HeinrichFocke entwickelt, eigentlich ein Mitinhaber der "Focke-Wulf-Flugzeugwerke". Eingesetzt wurden diese Helikopter auch für die Gebirgsjäger-Truppen, um die Geschütze und andere schwere Lasten in die Berge zu transportieren. Die Flugpionierin "Hanna Reitsch" veranstaltete auch Flugvorführungen in grossen Hallen.
@Arhpeco
@Arhpeco 11 ай бұрын
I think japanese used their 2 seat type also on ships as artillery spotter (cca 200 of them). One version coud carry depth charge for anti submarine warfare. There was a story that germans tried to use theirs for the Musolini rescue. But it had engine truble so they used plane instead (Storch).
@CAMacKenzie
@CAMacKenzie 11 ай бұрын
If you're talking about the Kayaba Ka-1 or Ka-2, these were autogyros, modified Kellett designs. The Japanese had bought a KD-1 in 1939, but after it was damaged, the Army set Kayaba to work reverse engineering their own. They flew off the Akitsu Maru, which was operated by the Army, but mostly flew from land. They could carry a couple of light depth charges, but were mainly used for spotting Allied submarines.
@Arhpeco
@Arhpeco 11 ай бұрын
@@CAMacKenzie Thank you for clarification and the tip, my source was some documentary, now i can research better.
@MuellerNick
@MuellerNick 11 ай бұрын
The FA 223 didn't have a celing height of 7000 km, but 7000 m. The Flettner had two rotors that meshed in each other. Like the Kaman. The Achgelis didn't have ANY power, not just "not enough". It is a autogyro that was draged (by a submarine).
@retepeyahaled2961
@retepeyahaled2961 9 ай бұрын
Good video. The 330 was an autogiro, it was not a helicopter. Autogiros have an unpropelled rotor, which starts rotating giving lift when the machine is moved at sufficient speed through the air. The Japanese vehicle you showed clearly was an autogiro too.
@richardbeckenbaugh1805
@richardbeckenbaugh1805 11 ай бұрын
Autogyros were used by the US before ww2 but were scrapped before the US entered the war. They were demonstrated extensively in the late 1920s. The US army air corps had a demonstration team that traveled the US landing in and taking off from baseball fields in the twenties and thirties. My grandfather had a home movie that he shot with an 8 mm camera of one such demonstration in Chicago in 1932.
@conveyor2
@conveyor2 11 ай бұрын
Autogyros were used in many countries in the 20s and 30s. Not everything revolves around the States.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 11 ай бұрын
@@conveyor2 chill dude. obviously he was speaking about the US because that's what he was certain of given the video and his grandfather and he's likely not an expert on worldwide chopper development in every freaking country. 🙄
@HepCatJack
@HepCatJack 11 ай бұрын
There was a scene or two in the little orphan Annie where the millionaire gets around in Autogyros with the film centered in the 1920's era. The Greeks had Gyros since ancient times, but they didn't fly.
@Electrodoc1968
@Electrodoc1968 11 ай бұрын
My dad built one of those submarine autogyro gliders. a slightly simplified design utilising a car wheels front disc hub as the teeter bar hub and aluminium scaffolding pipes as the chassis. Yes it tether flew during a 40mph wind. This had the blades spinning at 300RPM & Weighed 30 tons on the ends of the 22ft diameter rotors. Unfortunately no video evidence which was such a shame because it ended in an incredibly twisted mess comprising each blade hitting the ground behind the craft once and digging a 18" hole behind it before coming to a complete stop flinging the fuselage in the opposite rotation along with Dad.. This was because he'd tethered it at the centre of gravity rather than at the front of the fuselage therefore it tried to angle itself vertically before going up. I suppose it balanced for a bit on its rudder.. But all of the wheels where off the ground therefore airborne. LOL. Dad and all close by where absolutely fine. :)
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