Were Mourinho's Manchester United Underrated?
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Manchester United have struggled to find a manager that meets Sir Alex Ferguson’s levels, which is a surprise to no one. But is Jose Mourinho’s spell in charge the closest they have come?
A league cup, a Europa League title and a second-place league finish in 2017/18 are what Man United have for Mourinho’s tenure. And Mourinho has since claimed that finishing second behind Manchester City’s “Centurian” side was one of his greatest achievements.
So, is Mourinho’s time at United underrated? Jon Mackenzie evaluates, Philippe Fenner illustrates.
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@n0273 Жыл бұрын
"If I tell you that I consider one of the best jobs of my career was to finish second with Man United in the Premier League, you will say, 'this guy is crazy,'" - Mou
@kohikappu Жыл бұрын
I mean, no one would have thought that Manchester United had a chance to even finish on top 2. Overall, it's a top 6 squad plus Fred, young and reckless McTorminay, and Jones as the Achilles heels.
@brandonayong5823 Жыл бұрын
But also that season he reached 81 points. Nobody since Ferguson to this day reached 81 points at united. That season he beat man city away. Chelsea at home. Arsenal twice. Liverpool at home and tottenham twice. He finished ahead of Conte and klopp who had a much better squad
@ehiokioyajoshuauyiosa6188 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonayong5823 And they're people that actually compare that to ole's second.
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
Okay but can we at least acknowledge that he wanted to sign HARRY MAGUIRE? He was actually mad he didn't! And he spent 150 million of that 400 million on Pogba and Fred!
@ehiokioyajoshuauyiosa6188 Жыл бұрын
@@haimainjauo242 😂
@playboicartiismydad4842 Жыл бұрын
De Gea was unreal in 17/18. Almost single-handedly pushed United up to 2nd. Also broke the save record vs Arsenal.
@DailyWord3832 Жыл бұрын
Many saves against Tottenham also
@viandramonisyaf8623 Жыл бұрын
@@DailyWord3832 that was in the next season though (when his decline is already beginning)
@bitchhugger4572 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely believe that if we had this de gea during Ole's second season we would've won the league
@saltpeter500 Жыл бұрын
He still is unreal. His saves against West Ham yesterday were spectacular
@Johndoe-gf7eu Жыл бұрын
@@saltpeter500 he made 1 good save. The 40 yard shot from rice a goalie would expect to save. It’s just the media pushing the narrative that de gea saved united. In reality united should have been 3-0 up in the first half
@beukenphom3680 Жыл бұрын
He won Europa league with Smalling ,Young ,Jones,Fellani, Respect !!!
@thabiso5792 Жыл бұрын
young won serie a and chris smalling starts in a europa league side
@joebarnes100 Жыл бұрын
3 of those players were very expensive signings.
@pysky4u Жыл бұрын
And DDG
@G5947X Жыл бұрын
@@pysky4u You mean the guy who basically kick started his career by winning the Europa league with Atlei? Bad example lol
@joker_cons7471 Жыл бұрын
They were Also good
@GANDHIXtv Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the 2nd season we looked quite good and really well organised, but by his last season the attacking play was rigid and completely ineffectual. He also oversaw some terrible signings. Looking back though, I think he was probably the best of the post-Ferguson managers.
@HenSt-gz7qj Жыл бұрын
Some of the transfers are not what Mourinho wants thou, like Pogba.
@GANDHIXtv Жыл бұрын
@@HenSt-gz7qj Perhaps. I don't think anybody definitively knows which signings he wanted and which ones he didn't. Pure conjecture really. It may have been an impossible situation for him.
@mahmoudeltelt2022 Жыл бұрын
"He also oversaw some terrible signings" all of his signings were not his first, second or third choice mate
@00dude3 Жыл бұрын
Ole was better
@yakm5385 Жыл бұрын
Last trophy you won was under him. Must've been doing something right
@ciroacioli2454 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Jose won them their last two titles, got them to another cup final AND was responsible for the best campaign in the Premier League since Sir Alex - by far. United ended the 2017-18 in second place, ahead of Conte´s Chelsea, Klopp´s Liverpool and Poch´s Spurs - not to mention Arsenal. Respect, man. Respect.
@yunfun.8893 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Ole finished above Lampard's Chelsea (another rookie), a Spurs team past their cycle that was constantly changing managers, an injury-ridden Liverpool and an Arsenal team rebuilding under a rookie manager.
@Joker-yw9hl Жыл бұрын
I thought he did very well in his first two seasons. He was criminally underrated in my opinion. People get too caught up in paper talk and media hype - but in the real world, to finish top 6 and win the League Cup and Europa League in his first season was impressive, and then to go on to finish 2nd and comfortably top 4 was very good with what he had.
@brandonayong5823 Жыл бұрын
That season where he finished 2nd he also played an fa cup final. That's a very good season by united standard post fergie
@aakarmamtora3470 Жыл бұрын
He was still the architect of his own downfall. The chelsea job before and spurs job after shows that.
@mikemcklieve Жыл бұрын
He got job done but boringly. Sometime i watched united's game but never could under Mourinho. If you're not United fan, u won't watch his boring tactics
@isaac15752 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemcklieve ur not a United fan; stop capping, fans watch the team play that’s it, looking good or not is a extra
@isaac15752 Жыл бұрын
@@aakarmamtora3470 incorrect, wasn’t backed at Sprurs while asking for signings, and still managed to reach a final, using Chelsea and blaming the manager for sacking is lying to yourself to sound right. It’s literally the way chelsea found success, by sacking managers and signing new ones. At United he reach finals, got top 4 and top 2, won 2 cups. He is a woldclass manager, the only one whom could defeat pep against peps BEST team ever, not only once but twice. History looks at your sentence and laughs at it
@Bale4Bond Жыл бұрын
Mourinho in general is still underrated, despite all his successes. He can be an uncomfortable personality, but he generally seems to know his stuff.
@dopargom6944 Жыл бұрын
Mourinho is overated he is good manager and made success in the past but now his unaffected and limited tactics just not working all the Time with modern football other managers progres like pep or klopp and Carlo anceloti .....
@whittar Жыл бұрын
@@dopargom6944 Guardiola had unlimited funds at City and Mourinho is managing teams like Tottenham and Roma...
@frostmourne5280 Жыл бұрын
@@dopargom6944 Personally, i wouldn't call ancelotti's tactics modern, even from a real madrid fan. Though i would love to understand your perspective, what is modern football and how Ancelotti fit that criteria?
@PpTheGreatest Жыл бұрын
@@whittar Fairly sure Mourinho was free spending while at Chelsea in his second stint, and at United. It wasn't like he didn't have access to money (although admittedly City were better run so did more with their cash). Spurs and Roma came layer.
@lolcall5295 Жыл бұрын
@@dopargom6944 you're comparing pep who manages city or bayern and has unlimited funds and DESTINED to win and be great no matter who's the coach against mourinho who's in small clubs with limited funds like roma or spurs. LOL. Pretty sure pep's the one who's overrated here.
@ZexaXIII Жыл бұрын
The media painted him as an Evil manager. His harsh management of some players and his playing style only helped their statement. We United fans will forever remember him as the one who succeeded in one of our worst eras. Thanks for winning 3 trophies in your first season with that squad. Truly a SPECIAL ONE.
@ly7638 Жыл бұрын
A special one definitely. His man management is awful though, you can't lose a game and then in the post interview name and blame players individually and then expect them to respect you.
@gordo9104 Жыл бұрын
Real men did tho just look at the older heads mao would coach like in Porto Chelsea and Inter those guys accepted everything he said and improved. The new generation, my generation sadly are all pussys
@haaduria32 Жыл бұрын
@@ly7638 strange his best players take the absolute opposite of what you say
@thisIsFunnyLolz Жыл бұрын
@@ly7638 It is just his style, very sink or swim, you either rise to prove his criticism wrong or leave. His best players love him and feel inspired to play for him in part because of his accountability, passion and demands. Unfortunately United for the past many years now has been full of players who would rather cry than give 100% for a full match. I am not a fan of Mourinho or United but he has been misjudged after less an ideal spells at spurs and United both of whom have owners who are intolerant to disagreements and hate managers who make reasonable demands. His way is not perfect but it has produced
@agabaire Жыл бұрын
@@ly7638 if the board backed him and got him the players he wanted not what the board thought was glamorous 1-2 more seasons and 100% he would have won the EPL & Champions league They were blinded by star power pogba was not serious he screwed united they just finally replaced shoals and Carrick with Cassamero imagine that Just look at artetta and Klop and pep all whom
@luismartins7130 Жыл бұрын
His back four were Valencia, Smalling, Jones and Young… sink about it
@kitotapgono1467 Жыл бұрын
Who had Peak De Gea behind them
@luismartins7130 Жыл бұрын
@@kitotapgono1467 That is true but still...
@senmanzero6493 Жыл бұрын
He asked for new cb and fullback which they all bought after he left. Clueless owners
@joebarnes100 Жыл бұрын
That back 4 is more expensive than what Liverpool have now. Let that sink in.
@jordanmince7613 Жыл бұрын
@@joebarnes100 did he buy them ?
@anirudhrajiyengar8317 Жыл бұрын
Just pointing out, Sanchez was a Winter signing, not a summer one
@pacificdream5152 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe they got that wrong
@deaconblackfire2896 Жыл бұрын
Tifo's lack of attention to detail has been shocking recently, for their standards at least
@winterrising8738 Жыл бұрын
Ironically that's when it all started to go downhill from there
@anirudhrajiyengar8317 Жыл бұрын
@@winterrising8738 actually. Martial through the left was going really good in December Jan and then Sanchez came in.
@anirudhrajiyengar8317 Жыл бұрын
Another major issue Tifo seem to not consider is José aged up the squad significantly and heavily relied on individual moments of brilliance of the big buys. United barely had any patterns of play apart from who to target aerially
@ZexaXIII Жыл бұрын
Almost every manager has complained about owners not agreeing to sign the required players under Glazer ownership. Jose Mourinho was treated very harshly by our board. We United fans are thankful for his contribution and for bringing in Ibrahimovic for free.
@trelos7431 Жыл бұрын
Add Dalot
@anggaihza3074 Жыл бұрын
Even Fergie complained
@pranavbalaji1056 Жыл бұрын
ole did'nt, infac\t that puppet was praising the owners
@yudhabagaskara98 Жыл бұрын
In 17/18, the maximum amount of goals that Manchester United conceded was 2
@jean-paulwalters8855 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean in 1 game by game?, that's pretty good tbf
@siphomnisi3842 Жыл бұрын
@@jean-paulwalters8855 his Chelsea team was even better conceding maximum of 1 g per game
@ongeziwebesi23 Жыл бұрын
Had the glazers backed him when he wanted to buy Koulibaly, Griezman, Perisic and Fabinho Mourinho would’ve taken United to greater heights.
@Conici_AU Жыл бұрын
Griezmann didn’t want to leave atleti after 16/17
@Unison23 Жыл бұрын
He wouldn’t have taken them any higher
@vta2265 Жыл бұрын
@@Conici_AU no, more like 2017/2018, that's why United bought Lukaku instead. Also he didn't want to leave because Atleti had a transfer ban then
@joebarnes100 Жыл бұрын
How much would that transfer list cost at the time? Give any manager players of that talent and costs and they will do well.
@learnfilminaminute9509 Жыл бұрын
I was the owner, I wouldnt have backed him. He was playing defensive football that didnt yield results at the time of his sacking. There was also a toxic dressing room
@jewkilla0 Жыл бұрын
You guys done David Moyles dirty with that drawing of him. Jheez.
@TinyBudha Жыл бұрын
Mourinho is still for me a genius. People have short memories in football but some of his achievements. Such as winning a champions league with PORTO. Are nothing short of remarkable. One of the best to ever do it without doubt
@mohammedsuliman8072 Жыл бұрын
True he was also very unlucky in both Chelsea and Madrid and his Inter UCL winning side was nothing short of Legendary
@IASP17 Жыл бұрын
even winning the Conference league this year. people downplay it but its not like he won it with Chelsea or Real. he didnt go in there with a big club against these smaller clubs.
@eureka0107 Жыл бұрын
@@IASP17 He won a Mickey Mouse cup with a stacked Roma team relative to what they faced. Of course there's zero merit in that.
@RaunakJain11 Жыл бұрын
Everybody tainted Mourinho until they saw Ole in shambles. Now everyone wonders how Mou did it. Thats the sign of a maestro.
@TimTomJimJom Жыл бұрын
In a few years we’ll probably be saying the same about Ole. Played in a far more competitive time in the prem too. That along with the fact he wasn’t a proven manager
@RaunakJain11 Жыл бұрын
@@TimTomJimJom Ole's tenure wasn't completely his fault. The players were lazy and demotivated and the board didnt care (still doesnt care). From a tactical standpoint and expectations I'll rate Mou higher than Ole. Lets see how history remembers them.
@yunfun.8893 Жыл бұрын
@@TimTomJimJom No they won't especially if Ten Hag wins a trophy this season and finishes with more points than him. If ETH finishes with more than 75 points and wins a trophy he's already exceeded what Ole did in 4 seasons.
@karmag9812 Жыл бұрын
I’ll always respect Mourinho, he won us couple of trophies in one of our worst eras.
@harrishartman Жыл бұрын
ibrahimovic injury clearly effected the squad. he was not only striker, also the player who has been working long time together with mou and could handle players like pogba and lindgard.
@SurferWilly Жыл бұрын
Yes, I always thought they overachieved under Mourinho. I didn't think the players were good enough except De Gea who was so annoyingly good during those years that he should've been not only Best goalkeeper in the world but even at least nominated for best football player of the year. And it always seemed Mourinhos tactics and De Gea earned them points. They shouldn't have no business being in 2nd place or fighting for CL places. - Liverpool fan
@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw Жыл бұрын
of course we have business being in those places xD
@BoereViking Жыл бұрын
Y.N.W.A
@saiyerugara9038 Жыл бұрын
It was certainly a dysfunctional squad and Jose Mourinho was able to get quite a bit out of them.
@jean-paulwalters8855 Жыл бұрын
@@saiyerugara9038 2 seasons in, he should have had his team by then, he brought Bailly, Lindelof (didn't use them), Pogba, Matic (didn't get the best out of them), Lukaku, Ibrahimovic, Sanchez (his defensive tactics, isolated them, starving them of chances), inherited Rashford, Martial, De Gea (then best PL GK, under LVG),
@saiyerugara9038 Жыл бұрын
@@jean-paulwalters8855 He at least won trophies though. I believe he's the only manager since Ferguson to win a domestic trophy, a European trophy and finish top 4. What's more, he had an 80+ point season as well.
@karannegi7199 7 ай бұрын
Mourinho is one of the few managers who is only judged by his 'problematic third seasons', and the media forgets all the great, often remarkable things he often achieves in the first two seasons. Things that no one expects him to do, and was constantly written off. Mourinho's Real Madrid is one of the BEST teams I've ever seen in my life, even though they won most of their major things later on after his departure. It was a spellbinding counterattacking team, with some of the best players in the world working at the top of their game, and an unstoppable CR7.
@Jimbobiscuit Жыл бұрын
I had a season ticket for Jose's whole tenure at United. I have to say there seemed to be as many bad days as there were good. 0-0 draws to Hull City and the like, but also beating Liverpool and Chelsea at home were fantastic
@Victor_Trumper Жыл бұрын
Aren't you the BT Sports Community section Poll Guy?
@HonestlyBenjamin Жыл бұрын
@@Victor_Trumper Yeah, the legend James Williams
@Hunkzilla Жыл бұрын
Rojo and Jones patnership in the heart of defence was a pleasant surprise during Mourinho's era.
@nimish_l5727 Жыл бұрын
Player power and horrible owners got Jose's downfall at UTD💯
@silvb4952 Жыл бұрын
And Levy at Spurs! Similar scenario.
@tomteatom Жыл бұрын
@@silvb4952 And what just went down at Villa. Can't believe Unai joined them.
@eavyeavy2864 Жыл бұрын
Good thing eth curb egonaldo
@HumanShield777 Жыл бұрын
After Fergie, José was the best damn manager they had. They never appreciated José, never got the support he needed. He could’ve won the league with them
@TimTomJimJom Жыл бұрын
Best of a bad bad bunch, not that hard
@xXxMrHashxXx Жыл бұрын
The Man Utd board were a shambles. Chose players over the manager. Look at where those players are now. Man Utd gave him Fred and a young Dalot to bridge the gap to City after finishing 2nd. Mourinho maybe wouldn’t have won the league in his 3rd season or maybe he would have. But the Man Utd board never gave him the backing for us to ever know…
@eavyeavy2864 Жыл бұрын
And by ronaldo and casem it still player over manager
@magikarpsplashy Жыл бұрын
He wanted those players 😂
@xXxMrHashxXx Жыл бұрын
@@magikarpsplashy nope he openly criticised that transfer window and numerous others during his time at Man Utd. All managers before him have all said the same thing. So I’d take there actual quotes over what you’re saying fella
@magikarpsplashy Жыл бұрын
@@xXxMrHashxXx a manager blames the players instead of himself? Quelle suprise! So which players that we signed did he want? Just the ones that did well? You probably believe him when he says he's still a top manager too 🤣
@xXxMrHashxXx Жыл бұрын
@@magikarpsplashy there’s no way you can say Mourinho or even you as a fan were happy with that transfer window of just adding Fred and Dalot was good enough…
@HonestlyBenjamin Жыл бұрын
That 3-2 win vs City has to go down as one of the all-time great managerial masterclasses
@TimTomJimJom Жыл бұрын
Don’t see how, we did deserve to lose that day. Great game and a great spectacle but we were outclassed if we are being honest
@HonestlyBenjamin Жыл бұрын
@@TimTomJimJom In the first half, absolutely. However, I think Mourinho set the team up really well in the second half to restrict the threat of City and actually get at them going forward too, getting Pogba forward well and combining with Sanchez. The thing with Pep's City is that they'll go 1-0 up and they could then tear anyone apart with how they exploit space in behind, but Mourinho didn't let that happen, and he did that against the City Centurions
@andres20111996 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of Manuel Pellegrini's Real Madrid, he had one of the best campaigns in La Liga and even so, according to many, it went badly
@DillonSarkar Жыл бұрын
I remember Mourinho’s first 2 seasons were great. Lukaku was actually fit and he managed the LW Martial and Rashford swap perfectly. We were easily beating teams 4-0 and the clean sheets were his bread and butter. Add that we won trophies with a worse squad then what we have now and honestly Mourinho was our best manager after Ferguson. He was brutally honest and that’s why fans didn’t like him. ETH says the right things so now fans are all in love with him but in reality ETH just started and we need to relax. I don’t see ETH playing this possession style football like Pep which most fans claim. ETH has been doing the same counter attacking with individual brilliance. I’m willing to bet Mourinho’s Man United controlled games much better.
@tukiran3953 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, ETH didnt play possesion game oriented like pep, but maybe because their squad not good enough,
@jean-paulwalters8855 3 ай бұрын
@@tukiran3953The Ajax players are way better technical players than Man United players, he can't play possession football with the current players he has
@Wariki Жыл бұрын
Out of all post-Ferguson Era, Mourinho is definitely underrated and the media hates him for it. Man utd had Zlatan, Pogba, young Rashford Depay Lingard and Martial, Juan Mata, Schweinsteiger, Mktharyan, and Ander Herrera. Though I knew we wouldn't even expect to be going far as willing PL Title or better yet winning that shield community cup. there was flareness and Mourinho style football in sensibility given that there was toxicity in the long run.
@khalidadam1497 Жыл бұрын
The fact he got sacked for the happiness of players like Pogba and that Click still frustrates me. He should still be battling and rebuilding teams to go up against Pep and Klopp
@jean-paulwalters8855 Жыл бұрын
Has Mourinho ever really rebuild teams, RM he inherited a beast squad, Chelsea, the same, then just sprinkled on a Drogba, Carvalho, Cech, and 2nd stint a Costa and Fabregas, he inherited an aging Inter team, that had legendary players like Vieira and Ibrahimovic, and a then generational RB Maicon, and brought in Sneijder, but he didn't rebuild the team really
@adhambeydoun Жыл бұрын
@@jean-paulwalters8855 my friend, Mourinho at Inter was magic. Inter were failures in European competitions. He sold Ibra for Eto’o and bought Milito for pennies and he was World Class that season with Sneijder. That inter team was built with no budget, inter were financially broken. They were by no means a legendary side. Don’t forget buying Lucio as well for nothing. Not spending $70mil on a defender whenever he’d like.
@jean-paulwalters8855 Жыл бұрын
@@adhambeydoun they'd won the UCL before he arrived tho, they also had prime Maicon, Eto'o, Sneijder, Cesar, in their 1st team, having players like that in your ranks, makes you, at least a garenteed UCL underdog to the United’s, Chelsea, Barca, Bayern, Real, at least
@adhambeydoun Жыл бұрын
@@jean-paulwalters8855 Inter hadn't won the UCL since 1965 what are you talking about? Inter were defending Serie A champions when he arrived yes, but the team was average and those nugget signings like Milito, Lucio, Snjieder and Pandev was everything with Eto'o
@jean-paulwalters8855 Жыл бұрын
@@adhambeydoun 1965, was before he arrived 🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣, Lucio was also a Bayern Munich player before he arrived at Inter, Sneijder was playing for Real Madrid before he went to Inter, Eto'o was apart of the best ever club side/period in the world, wrongfully sold by Pep
@toky0fantasy516 Жыл бұрын
It was insane how mourinho won us our last 2 trophies with Young , Valencia , Luka Shaw and Smalling. We also have an aging Rooney but we were playing pretty well. Mourinho is the chosen one fr
@MM-ep2zq Жыл бұрын
I remember United began that season quite well and the only points dropped was a 2-2 draw at Stoke. Jose kept pace with City until early October. Matic and Lukaku looked like great buys, Martial was playing really well and Pogba at times resembled something of an £89 million player. Then United went to Anfield and stank the place out by parking the bus to grind out an embarrassing nil - nil draw. After that point the wheels fell off and the season tactically became absolute attrition until May. City pretty much won the title in early December when they beat United at Old Trafford and extended their lead in to double figures.
@ryantannehill2830 Жыл бұрын
When not allowed to roam, like with France, pogba never looks like a world class player. He's like a baby deer, all legs.
@shishsuke Жыл бұрын
Yep, people have short memories but even the first season we looked so awful and turgid in the league games. We barely ground out results against extremely poor opposition in the Europa league and Jose started prancing off claiming he'd won a "treble". I know that our board is full of tossers but I really did not care for the Mourinho era despite how hard he tried to sell himself as a martyr
@ab8588 8 ай бұрын
Charity Shield , UEFA Cup and EFL Cup. I would call it a success
@lwazithemba6931 Жыл бұрын
The xG should give absolutely no indication about "best" unless you had xG per game and then assessed the theoretical points that would have been made at that level
@AutopilotAndChill Жыл бұрын
In this order are the best managers…Ferguson, Mourinho, Wegner. Ferguson winning the league with a team that the next season was abysma as well as motivating players to give it their alll, Mourinho with mediocre teams winning a CL and beating FCB in their prime to take the European trophy and Wegner doing miraculous things with almost no money spent because he was paying back for the new stadium built. Unreal what those 3 did.
@Arcadious10 Жыл бұрын
Ancelotti looking like🙃
@AutopilotAndChill Жыл бұрын
@@Arcadious10 As good as Ancelotti is, most of his time has been spent beating farmers recently. I respected him more when he was the manager of Milan and Chelsea as back then the Italian league had 4 good teams as did the English League. Coaching Bayern and RM to titles always has been easy. Both are the biggest spenders in their respective leagues and SHOULD win their leagues. Yeah, he snagged some CL trophies but for me the order of trophy prestige and difficulty as of today is Premier League then the UCL. The UCL is won mostly by teams in farmers leagues as they don’t have to field their best squads on the Saturday before the UCL games unless they are playing perhaps the second place team in their league, thus they get to rest their best players and help them remain injury free or heal up. From top to bottom the PL is the strongest league.
@Juanico259 Жыл бұрын
"I, myself, because of my personality, made out that the training, the games and the job were all to win, win, win, and then, when I came to situations where it was very difficult to win, which for other coaches is something acceptable, in my case it was never enough."
@justrandomthings319 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they were. The media just didn't like Jose.
@jordonbooman9913 Жыл бұрын
The media don't like foreigners in general
@Irishatheist24 Жыл бұрын
😂 mourinho is a fraud
@honestmanutdfan603 Жыл бұрын
@@Irishatheist24 he's better than pep
@yakm5385 Жыл бұрын
@@Irishatheist24 best manager mate. Learn football
@user-tr1hx7jx4r Жыл бұрын
the media don't like United you mean .
@j2dlyc Жыл бұрын
Looking back I would say that the vast majority of the things Jose said were true, but he said them in the wrong way. The club's problems were far greater than Mourinho though. The entire system from top to bottom was a mess.
@RazorTooths Жыл бұрын
Man won 3 trophies in his 1st season, and then went to another Cup final whilst finishing 2nd in his 2nd season. Crazy how that results in a sacking the next season.
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 Жыл бұрын
Ah, I think you left out a lot of context there. There were signs at the end of the second season that the garden wasn't all roses. And it was abundantly clear he had lost control by December 2018. Whether or not he was right to say / do whatever he did behind closed doors is almost irrelevant; managers job is: 1) to try and win 2) control the dressing room, and keep the team a team. The separate cliques that formed then carried into Ragnicks time, even if the personnel changed. Owners aren't going to replace 24 hard to get players all at once, when they can quick fix it by sacking a manager & gradually shipping out troublemakers afterwards if they believe the manager was correct. Every manager needs to ensure for their own sake (and teams) that they don't put themselves in that position I can well imagine there was blame on both sides for the team fracturing
@RazorTooths Жыл бұрын
@@ronanfitzpatrick1261 you're right I did gloss over many details lmao, but in the end he produced the most results out of all the post-Fergie managers. Hopefully ten Hag does good cause' United not being on top is always weird to me
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
It all went wrong with the signing of Sanchez. Upset the apple cart beyond what the squad could cope with having already got the Mourinho intensity in place. Otherwise it was going on nicely mid season before that. Then the start of next season the results fell off.
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 Жыл бұрын
@@RazorTooths Agreed. Signs are there so far with Ten Haag. I think United are maybe 2 or 3 signings away from competing though (Ralf wasn't that far off with needing 10 signings in retrospect). Hopefully can challenge next year, more training and a few fresh faces - although I can see Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle all significantly strengthening too.
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 Жыл бұрын
@@gm2407 It's funny how that happens, but makes sense in a way, when you think each team is just a small group of (mostly) young lads - in terms of attitude, or 11 highly interdependent players on the pitch - for cohesion, work rate etc
@garettnick5704 Жыл бұрын
the 16/17 season was better than 17/18 in terms of football played. Lack of cutting edge was why we finished 6th in 16/17.
@jt663 Жыл бұрын
Using xGD here is ridiculous. EVERYONE knows that under Mourinho United (and other teams he's managed) would sit back after going 1-0 up and hence having a low xG If he had better players at his disposal then they would have had a better xGD and been closer to City And De Gea's 'overperfromance' was surely, in part, down to Mourinho's coaching and motivation.
@mariorangel8936 10 ай бұрын
The many times his Manchester United side were expected to lose against man city, Tottenham, and Liverpool only to come away with a draw or a rigid win in his favor gave me and my lil bro headaches. It’s Jose Mourinho.
@chinonsochukwu5259 Жыл бұрын
We signed Sanchez in the winter not summer And that triggered a series of downward spiral after that. I feel missing out that context is key
@anab0lic Жыл бұрын
The problem with Mourinho is his interviews and antics on the touchline are more entertaining than the football his teams produce on the pitch.
@1992zorro Жыл бұрын
The reason British media is still talking about this achievement and this man means it was a success. I swear this guy leaves rent-free in the heads of these guys.
@finnlawless Жыл бұрын
I love the artwork. 'David Moyes' looks much more like Marty Feldman.
@Omnipotentmonkey Жыл бұрын
I think it's worth noting that of the Post-Ferguson Utd managers to manage more than 5 games, Mourinho had both the highest win% (barring Ten Hag who's got a small sample size) and the lowest loss% outright of all of them. in both cases only marginally worse off than Ferguson's records He did a good job with an unbalanced, awkward squad.
@LordFred69 Жыл бұрын
Mourinho's team was underrated in retrospect but how he treated Schweinsteiger during that time is unforgivable
@reintaler6355 Жыл бұрын
1:14 can we just appreciate the ART
@StevieObieYT Жыл бұрын
Yes! Mourinho's Manchester United Were Underrated! We won the Europa League Cup and the League Cup! And also we managed to finish 2nd in the league, with a terrible group of useless players. Considering how bad the team is and how bad they were playing before Mourinho took over. It is an impressive achievement that he managed to turn the club around. And set us on the right track! There was some major issues with players who were consistently underperforming though.
@jean-paulwalters8855 Жыл бұрын
You think this current Manchester United team is bad?
@davidmontgomery8938 Жыл бұрын
Mourinho can never be overrated! Ratings can never go high enough for Mourinho! Respect! Respect!
@greg4629 Жыл бұрын
they had the easiest route to europa league final ever. but i did think the season after their 2nd place finish they would be real contenders. they seemed to buy only players with bad attitudes though
@jamesfx2 Жыл бұрын
We signed Lukaku without signing Perisic. United didn't sign Sanchez till January and they lost a lot of momentum. Look at the pre-January numbers. I wonder what about signing Sanchez on treble to double what everyone else was on upset the dressing room 🤔
@andresvalles9860 Жыл бұрын
He also reached a FA Cup Final and Manchester United played better than Chelsea on that game. With Mou, United was always on Champions, even in his third season and later being fired, he was able to take the team to the knockout stage of Champions. Van Gaal and Ole fail to do that, well Ole beat PSG.
@mightymoeish Жыл бұрын
81 points was the highest they've had in years since and previously. They maybe lucked into a few extra points than they usually get, due to phenomenal individual players like Pogba. 81 is not enough to win a Premier league title.
@billyjean5934 7 ай бұрын
*Claudio Ranieri has entered the chat*
@CorinMusic2012 Жыл бұрын
Mourinho did the best possible job with some of the poor player he had. I've always believed that. He wasn't supported by the board. He finished second and then was told to do better without being given the financial backing.
@iso460 Жыл бұрын
The club took side with Pogba, Shaw etc. Turns out Pogba never met expectations. If the Special One talks, you should listen.
@learnfilminaminute9509 Жыл бұрын
Even the fans wanted Mourinho out
@LordWay Жыл бұрын
I had genuinely forgot we finished 6 in his first season because of the two trophies.
@akshaybankar8180 Жыл бұрын
One video on how pep guardiola was bought to city and spend millions and hasn't won champions league specifically in his last 4 season or so
@unfoldingmatches Жыл бұрын
Great summary and information presented here 💯
@vishnukatamreddy4320 3 ай бұрын
They should have got him Perisic when he asked for him, & Though United finished 19 pts behind City, we were competing against a centurion team, which is very difficult mentally. It was still really good year with Rashford dunking over Trent XD
@jadmantoura4483 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the Community Shield, as he told that touchline reporter after they won the Europa League. To be fair, I count it as a trophy, but there is no way to argue that this period was a success.
@TimTomJimJom Жыл бұрын
It’s for charity mate. Like counting the Audi cup or somthing
@juliantsenkov1585 Жыл бұрын
The problem was with the players not with Mourinho. For me in 2017/18 he overachieved with that squad.
@SCOMPLETE7 Жыл бұрын
Best footy channel of all time. Underrated.
@HHHBFResurrected Жыл бұрын
Depends how you define underrated? In terms of the success it had matching the quality, possibly. The 1st season it did really well, 6th was a bit of a false position, it was really unlucky in several PL games. 2nd season did alright, before Pogba's injury it was ticking very nicely & only started running out of steam towards the end (when they bought Sanchez, screwed up the attacking dynamics). But overrated & underrated are determined by how people perceive things, and the amount of Mourinho fans who pump up that United job he did as something to illustrate his awesomeness has always been laughable. It was decent, if you pretend the 3rd season didn't exist, but he could've done MUCH better!
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 Жыл бұрын
Perfect summary imo
@kingrodney441 Жыл бұрын
So do you believe that united team was capable of winning the league or contending for the UCL or even winning it at that time? Because that's pretty much the only thing more he could've done with what he had. His time in united was no masterpiece but it's still very impressive that they accomplished so much. Especially considering talent wise they could be better now than they were before
@HHHBFResurrected Жыл бұрын
@@kingrodney441 The problem is the success he had was scrapping the barrel. Southampton should've beaten them in the LC Final, were the better team by Mourinho's own admission. As impressive as they were in the Europa Final, Ajax were literally a team of teenagers - I think Ziyech was their oldest player in his mid 20's. Finishing 2nd looks nice but you have to factor in Conte wasn't on his game (unfocussed/wanted out of Chelsea) & Wenger/Arsenal were a total non-factor, so the only significant competition for that spot was a Liverpool team still brewing away but not complete & an excellent but mentally weak Spurs burdened with playing at Wembley - pretty good, but not outstanding. He did nothing there that left a big impression, it just kinda happened. The deserved CL exit vs. Sevilla was a big downer on the whole job, if they'd have got to the quarters/semis & they'd gone out putting up a good fight I think many people's perceptions of the job he did would've been a bit more positive.
@kingrodney441 Жыл бұрын
@@HHHBFResurrected you know how spoiled you are as a fan to call 2 trophies, one being a European trophy, not that impressive and something that kinda happened. A spurs or Leicester fan who had those trophies wouldn't dare call it something that kinda happened. I know united had dominated the 20 years prior to that but winning 1 trophy isn't something to take for granted let alone 2. I agree he could have done more but even a man city fan would say 2 trophies in one year is something to remember
@HHHBFResurrected Жыл бұрын
@@kingrodney441 When you set the bar the way Mourinho does, managing the teams Mourinho does, trophies are an expectation. Most people would agree Pochettino did a FARRRRR better job at Spurs than Mourinho did a United for example, the lack of trophies is complete irrelevant to that.
@ntobekodube2081 7 ай бұрын
Love the channel....but this time I disagree. Jose did the best with an average squad. All the players he criticized have not proven him wrong till today.
@matthewgillies6273 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! He was spot on about all except MAYBE Luke Shaw
@badman5356 Жыл бұрын
Prime De Gea happened
@xxballer099gfxxzz3 Жыл бұрын
Love the Jose revisionism in the past few years
@davidchandra8722 Жыл бұрын
people back then still live in SAF era and hasn't realize how far they've been behind
@kevinmsft Жыл бұрын
He was clearly the best out of the bunch... that said a lot about his quality.
@fsaeuqwe Жыл бұрын
actually I feel this first season was the best under Jose Although we were 6th . the Only problem was we have too many frustrating 1:1 / 0:0 draw , and the ref was very biased to us . In the half way of the season they have 6/7 penalties not given by the ref . I guess that's a part of Mourinho's problems with the ref in premier league .
@ronanfitzpatrick1261 Жыл бұрын
Not being bad, but my brother in law (Madrid fan) and two friends (Chelsea, Spurs) all said the same thing about refereeing decisions in Joses first 8 months at their clubs (as did I at the time with United). My mates & I now call it the Mourinho Effect. If you go back and look at the decisions and compare the decisions to those for other teams, both for & against, it'll be more like 2-3 excess decisions tops - every team was getting bad decisions back then (arguably even now), it's why they brought in VAR. Jose just has a way of mixing in enough truth to convince you that yes, the world is in fact out to get your club.
@GigiSyd Жыл бұрын
in Italy we say that "The time is a gentleman"
@phyo.lin19 Жыл бұрын
He did the job despite bad situations. No excuses. Eventually he gave in but left with a legacy. Let’s see Ten Hagg can fill his shoes
@KvnDWr Жыл бұрын
Mourinho has continued to prove, time and time again, that he is one of the greatest managers ever. He's won everywhere... except Tottenham. But that doesn't count because Tottenham are allergic to trophies and would need immediate medical attention if they let him play that final before sacking him
@nope2dat Жыл бұрын
They're correctly rated. Probably the most effective United team of the post-ferguson era and its right that in the light of solskjaer and rangnick's failures that they have been reappraised but at the same time they really werent a team who deserved to win the league, or to be considered great. While Mourinho was right that he probably never had a midfield capable of winning the league in his time there - he also arguably got the most of the players and support he wanted from the glazers of any post fergie manager, he wasnt exactly scrounging the bargain bin, he had a stronger team than Solskjaer and Rangnick
@cole8957 Жыл бұрын
Diminishing mou season because of De Gea and xGs is crazy
@isaiahgere9283 Жыл бұрын
Alexis Sanchez wasn’t signed in the summer, he was swapped directly for mirkitaryan in January
@Hi5GhostMUFC 3 ай бұрын
Plz Man Utd, do not do the same mistake u did with Mourinho on Ten Hag. Plz give him time, patience and plenty of backing. He’ll turn this club into a great club. Trust him!
@shirisharyal1882 Жыл бұрын
love him, hate him , criticize him ,call him pragmatic or whatever...... but he is the epitome of winner
@bobbywee9413 Жыл бұрын
Tifo your the best.
@ToxicGopher Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing is that most football managers never even win a single trophy. Therefore, the only way to judge Mourinho is by his own past sucesses or against the best managers in the world. In other words, he's pretty damn good.
@Unison23 Жыл бұрын
His football was largely unsustainable in a period where the next crop of elite coaches like Pep and Klopp came into the league. In 17/18 like the video states, they were fortunate to come 2nd. Overall from a rival fan’s perspective, his time at the club wasn’t great and has been overrated by those who look back with fondness. When he said it was his greatest achievement to finish 2nd, he’s missing the caveat in that they overperformed greatly due to De Gea having by far his best ever season
@seannkomo Жыл бұрын
So credit can't be given to Mourinho, it can only be given to De Gea as to why United actually achieved what they did that season?...
@Timbone07 Жыл бұрын
De Gea made all the subs too lol
@seannkomo Жыл бұрын
@@Timbone07 clearly coz according to people who think like this, Mourinho did nothing let alone anything valuable, smart and strategic to take United to where they ended up being.😂😂
@seannkomo Жыл бұрын
Abdul, since you don't want to give credit to José, then atleast give credit to the Goalkeeper coach who was part of his staff 🤷♂️🤷♂️😂😂😂
@Timbone07 Жыл бұрын
@@seannkomo Haha, it's pretty pathetic. He even won a trophy this year. I don't get why they are making themselves look stupid. Their favorites like Potter and Ten Hag are getting beat by 4 goals when they have better squads. Roma spent 7 million this window and people say he is failing for being top 4. What a joke lol
@LordSeth-hf8ew Жыл бұрын
can't believe he was there for 3 years thats mad
@theordinarychannel9334 Жыл бұрын
Respect man. Respect
@eddiewilson4529 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a vid on why west ham aren't clicking like last season? What's changed?
@marcusaureliusthe3rd Жыл бұрын
still their best manager post-ferguson 3 trophies with that team is no easy feat the fans really under valued him during his time
@ionnicoara6657 3 ай бұрын
That's like choosing an average team in carrier mode and playing on legendary lvl. You finish 2nd is great achievement
@diboymashesha Жыл бұрын
Can we please get a video talking about VICENTE DEL BOSQUE already he is the original Carlo Ancelloti meets Arrigo Sachi
@sudharshanve8519 Жыл бұрын
Ole's Man United were underrated, for sure!! He actually built a team tht could sustain ( you can see from ETH's dependables) unlike that of Jose. Imagine if any team can boast a record of going undefeated away from home like 50 games at a stretch! Basically it like saying, you are a visitor in your own stadium when Man United arrives.
@jean-paulwalters8855 Жыл бұрын
No fans in the ground tho, does help when your playing in empty stadiums
@sudharshanve8519 Жыл бұрын
@@jean-paulwalters8855 He carried that form on, even when fans had arrived, like smashing Man City at Eithad in both the games.
@bdt5096 Жыл бұрын
No trophies for Ole and Ten Haag is already replacing his favorites so not a real sustainable team he built
@sudharshanve8519 Жыл бұрын
@@bdt5096 Rashford is replaced, Bruno isnt replaced, neither is Sancho. Dont see Maguire getting replaced, only benched because of lack of confidence which once he regains (looks very tedious considering the crucifixion he gets) he will also be part of backbone of that team. Barring Maguire since he is already 30, i dont see anyone else being dropped. And i dont count not winning a title as a criteria, people crucified Jose even when he won titles for his terrible football and glorified Klopp even when he was winning nothing. Ole was just short of one CDM to have his team ready (Matic was ageing).
@yunfun.8893 Жыл бұрын
@@sudharshanve8519 Ole was incompetent. Stop running this agenda that his team was underrated. He spent 400m and the team didn't get any better from when Mourinho was there. Ole had 6 transfer windows to sign a midfielder and didn't do it. ETH signed 3 midfielders in his first two transfer windows and dumped McFred. He also got rid of Ronaldo and relegated Maguire to a squad player. ETH has also experimented with the players to get the best out of them, trying Shaw at centreback, Lindelof at CDM, Fernandes out wide, Sancho as a number 10... Ole just played a cookie cutter formation 4-2-3-1 every match, except against the big sides in his first season where he played 3 at the back and parked the bus against City and Liverpool. ETH never changed his formation because of the opponents. Because he has a style of football
@ericchege6061 Жыл бұрын
He did the best with what he had. The problem is he and the other managers had anchors and impediments weighing him down and undoing/undermining his work. The Glazers, their board, the CEO, Murtough and Fletcher are not football people or have poor credentials if you think they do. Prioritizing commercial ventures over football success.
@Johndoe-gf7eu Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that people say that winning a league cup and europa league in one season is not good enough for united. Shows they still see as us the biggest
@piratelord89 Жыл бұрын
It was underrated because Pep existed. His City are just a different level
@theojenner1902 Жыл бұрын
This! Liverpool would have cruised to 4/5 prem titles if peps Man City didnt exist and mourinhos Man U would have won the title that year
@thrilla72 Жыл бұрын
Yep, unfortunately that was the season City went supreme extreme and won 100 points. Ridiculous.
@liam5382 Жыл бұрын
Because City bought Pep every payer that he wanted
@gigahoe42 3 ай бұрын
I've never heard anyone refer to that season as the centurions
@johnangel9053 Жыл бұрын
Love the man! I think unlike Ole he wasn't backed up by the board enough when they didn't even get him a CB and got Ole one in the face of Maguire
@coopaloopvt Жыл бұрын
Eric Bailly and Victor Lindelof were both bought under Mou… not sure what your definition of a cb is
@nickd987 Жыл бұрын
He got Bailly and lindelof. The cb he wanted was aldeweireld who the very next season went to play to Belgium
@ConstantinoHaza Жыл бұрын
I think Mourinho ended up suffering from fatigue, and I doubt any other manager would've done better at the time given the dire circumstances
@superamario6464 Жыл бұрын
Superb video!
@gm2407 Жыл бұрын
Only time United got over 80 points since SAF.
@rana1561 Жыл бұрын
post Ferguson - Gill period was repeatedly a reminder of what Glazers inherently did wrong with the club, appointing Woodward who literally let the infrastructure go outdated and rot while Glazers were taking major chunks of revenue out of the club, then making decisions on player purchases and contracts that were not at all driven by football acumen or manager requirements rather based on simplistic market optics and bloating of asset values, then leaving managers with incomplete and Frankenstein's monster kind of mishmash of squad by the second season. It was recipe of disaster for any manager who would take up the challenge, and it was until Woodward left. Richard Arnold, now, needs to show that he can make things run properly, while Glazerss continue to take money out, while having a club infrastructure that needs investment. It will be a tough task.
@footballtalk5798 Жыл бұрын
We was hard to break down and solid in a block. That's a since off good coaching
@TimTomJimJom Жыл бұрын
I mean so was Burnley under dych
@footballtalk5798 Жыл бұрын
@@TimTomJimJom good coaching
@jonnywalker3208 Жыл бұрын
He was my dream manager ... and then he managed us.
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