Not really I grew up during the apartheid and watching Hitler youth clips there is definitely comparisons a plenty

Apartheid is Facism with excuses???Whaaaat??? Who knew?

Ex?

@@CashSache Well, yes actually. The big corporations tended to be _opposed_ to Apartheid which limited their ability to recruit and train the best staff. They were stuck with entitled white second raters. Apartheid was an ethno-authoritarian policy, like National Socialism, and not a corporatist one like fascism.

No, no. Don't erase the pro-Allies apartheid leaders. This was not a one sided thing. It should be remembered that all of them considered themselves above Africans and weree happy with colonisation.... Just like the 3 major Allied powers. Saying "they were Nazis" erases the other side's guilt.

Yeah most people forget that Afrikaans is a language that is like a mix of Dutch with African languages, hence the Dutch spelling of the name of the language.

I'm surprised they didn't name their airport after Hendrijcks Seyffardt

A lot of people use auto-generated subtitles now

Yeah they're auto generated. I used to type subtitles for channels but the work dried up.. the vast _vast_ majority of channels use "auto generated", now

​@@unbearifiedbear1885 and many of those auto generated ones have big errors, sometimes changing a few words into something completely different. Any deaf person will get the wrong information

To me it is the greatest shame, that the British didn't BELIEVE the story they told us all about the Empire being a family. If, after the first world war, the British Government and the King had made a serious effort, a real commitment to address all the previous injustice and exploitation, United and ACTING as a family, we could have grown strong together. I had an amusing thought about how we could have done that. Set up a tradition of young men finishing their Schooling, and going away overseas to other Imperial lands, and working there in Public Projects like Teaching or Engineering for five years, and they have to bring back a wife :) We could have had it as a reward for being the best Scholars and the best Sportsmen, and when they had brought back their wife, and together lived for five years in his home country, return to hers and work for the Schools or City again. People would say "Oh that will never work" but what did we do instead? We ADMIRED, and ENCOURAGED people to be soldiers, and to be weapons designers, and other strange inhuman things. We could have had a whole world-wide culture of working together to make everyone One People.

How the F then did he make you?

@@user-ez9en7vk2z Who do you mean by "He" , the King? Victoria maybe?. HE or She was more trapped by culture and circumstance than anyone, son. In fact, they had less power than you think, and then, as now, it was Business Interests that made most of the decisions. No doubt you know that in 1810 the East India Company was the largest company in the world for 75 years, and had its own Navy and Army. In fact, when the Young Queen, only three years on the Throne, was faced with New Zealand as a problem, She tried very hard to restrain the British urge to rob and steal, the REASON the Crown took on New Zealand was because totally unregulated Land Sales were being conducted by rogue British traders. That is what triggered it. And compared to any other Empire in the world, the British made a genuine effort to accommodate the rights of the local CHIEFS. Almost nowhere in the world was a democracy at the time. Certainly not New Zealand before the Crown took control, everything was decided by Chiefs, who were ABSOLUTE Monarchs of their tribe, and put people to death for any infraction of their Absolute Authority. And it was Victoria who sent the Treaty to NZ, and the first potential treaty offer that was presented to Her to send, she sent back to the Parliament and insisted that it be re-written to give the CHIEFS more rights. It helped, but the COMMERCIAL interests of the time were the actual drivers of people's behaviour.

@@uncletiggermclaren7592 no man. Not you. I agree with your points re Queen and Treaty of Waitangi etc. It was aimed @fidelcastro who had a sad woke story about his dad that went to war and passed waaay before he was born and been "exploited" by the Empire. Of course it takes 9months for a baby to be born but in his case it sounds way longer than that. So unless he is a Botswana Elephant with a 22month incubation period, his story has holes in it.

@@user-ez9en7vk2z Well, he said Grandfather, you know?. And that doesn't seem too unlikely. MY Grandfather was born in 1889 mate, the youngest son of a youngest son. Which I point out because of the even MORE unlikely fact that, my grandfathers Uncle fought in the Crimean war. His fathers oldest brother, who was born in 1830.

I KNOW RIGHTTTTTTTTTTT

You can call southern Africa, South Africa

@@datcheesecakeboi6745 nuh uh cus if you say you live in south africa people would immediately assume you mean the country and your just a moron if you meant like Botswana or smth

He used it correctly

@@user-vf6nn6hx9x nuh uh

Wasn't there a time that "South Africa" was nearly all these countries in one? Maybe I am misremembering.

It's kinda like how "Americans" are just US Citizens but folks try and say anyone who lives or is from either continent are Americans, too. Nope: A Cuban is a Cuban, Peruvian is a Peruvian, and those funny folks in Argentina with Lederhosen are... Well... How long have they been there, exactly? Generations? Guess that makes them Argentines, too.

@@davidw.2791 Exactamundo.

As a South African, thank you.

@@sofiekaergaard93sort of, in WWII South Africa kicked the Germans out if Namibia and formed it into South West Africa until 1990. But before then the brits and partly South Africa had control of other regions like Rhodesia.

Lol

Adolf Hitler Uunona is a Namibiann civil rights activist and politician. He has been elected as a councillor several times since 2004 at the constituency of Ompundja in the Oshana regional council elections in year 2010 and 2015. In November 2020, he won a local election in northern Namibia with 1,196 votes, which was 85% of the vote. He was just re-elected.

Or a hooker I mean, BJ? Come on

Or a Dutch porn star.

ha gooden

Wait til you realise why villains were typically given Germanic and Eastern European names... 😉

A few things need to be considered in labelling far-right Afrikaaners as "Nazis"... (1) In WWII, there was still a great deal of resentment towards the British over the Boer War, particularly how they herded Afrikaaners into CONCENTRATION CAMPS. Quite a few men of military age were more inclined to fight those that had oppressed their grandfathers than fight for them. (2) The European country most Afrikaaners would feel natural allegiance to would have been the Netherlands, not Germany, Of course, in the Netherlands, there was a significant pro-Nazi faction, and some 50K Dutchmen did fight in service of Germany, mostly in the Waffen-SS. (3) Although they'd be a small number, there were some Germans that had settled prior to WWI in "Kamerun" (Cameroon), German South-West Africa (Namibia), and German East Africa (Tanzania), which, after the Treaty of Versailles, ended up in British, South African, or French administration. Naturally their descendants might not be all that inclined to fight the Germans of their time.

@@selfdo resentment yes but fascist, even nazi ideals, hell yeah! I know this from first hand experience. At the time of world war two South Africa was an independent colony. The whole system was inspired by n*zi government's design and structure. The belief of white supremacy is soaked in religion and South Afrikaaners are super religious. Apartheid was pretty much a free for all on anyone that wasn't white... the whole thing stunk of fascist stench. AWB is literally a rip off of the n*zi scum. They had people in government making fascist laws. But at the end of the day South Africa knew if they for for Germany, it would only be a matter of time that they would suffer the consequences of it and pretty much just be cut off from the world. Europe and American trade was essential for them to live. Going to war with allies would of put their brand new independence on the line.

​@@selfdoAll Afrikaners who weren't supporting the ANC/SACP or another anti-apartheid group were close enough to Nazis that the distinction doesn't really matter.

Funny and humiliating day for Terreblanche when he fell of his horse in Pretoria.. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy....lol. Silly thought.. When you call your daughter Crystal, Tiffany or Candy their career paths have been preordained.... Stripper. Eugene Terreblanche has the best surname ever for a white supremacist. It was inevitable.

National Socialism was not Fascism lol

The lives some people led, man.. crazy

"clearly because of possible German sympathies" That's a crazy way to down play concentration camps. We, Americans, had concentration camps too, for the Japanese Americans (+some Italian and German Americans). They never had any sympathies, and after internment, they had resentment.

I remember reading "The Sheltering Desert" in school.

You better pay war reparations to Poland! German nazis looted, murdered and raped

That was an excellent book.

and germany/ the german confederacy gave them what we nowadays call humanitarian aid

This group seems to be the group from my misremembered details on announcements in World War One "Okay. And who are we fighting? The British or the Germans?".

​@@baronbrummbar8691you better pay war reparations to Poland!

@@darkopuric569 they can have reparations when they give back the illegally annexed territory

Wars over fellas , get over it .

Their childhood is no excuse for supporting Nazism or racial apartheid, also slavery and racism predated British control of the country

@@matthewdavid6134 The point is not to justify, but contextualize. South Africa has always been “complex” when it comes to nearly everything.

@@matthewdavid6134nah it is to a degree

@@sucloxsucloxsson would you say the same of the Nazis? No ultimately adults are responsible for their own actions unless they have some mental issues

The death rates in the concentration camps is exaggerated. It was no different to many cities in mainland Britain.

Yeah, you're right. Us English-speaking South Africans were made to feel like 2nd class citizens by the ruling NP elite. I thought we were united in our fight against Communism until I got to the army... that's when I found out I was the enemy.

Is the Story of Rhodesia... A Land both Fair and Grate!

@@Dani87178I hope your being sarcastic 😭

@@TheDarkrebel131 it is an interesting story in any case. A colony that basically goes rogue

@@TheDarkrebel131 most successful nation/richest in Africa... Rhodesia... To bad Zimbabwe is still a ruin like its name..

@@Dani87178 yea fair and grate for the black population and nothing bad ever happened to them 😭🤡

Hell, I served with a Namibian emigre in the US Army, and our first conversation was in Deutsch, not English, and this was in the 2000's. Just goes to show how we can't take things at face value.

Namibia was considered a Part of South Africa by the South Africans at the time.

@@hanswurst-re7df No one else recognized South Africa's claim over SWA/Namibia so you choose to go by what the occupier says? Not mentioning Gazankulu, QwaQwa or even Bophuthatswana as independent countries makes sense, but Namibia is on another scale. Lesotho and Swaziland were mostly left alone only because it worked in SA's favour. If they had gotten more involved with anti-apartheid activities they would have been taken over in a heartbeat. Doesn't mean the rest of the world would have stopped recognizing them just because south africa said so. Also the world was happy enough to let South Africa control namibia as long as they kept fighting the commies in Angola.

@@jjmcoupebmw6557 No i dont accept SAs former claim but the video clearly went by the defacto Situation during the war. SA treated SWA/Namibia basically as another province of SA since 1915 and through the entire mandate periodt. From what i could find the difference between SWA/Namibia and South Africa was that the pro-german Elements were german instead of dutch. Not really to worth noting when the Video glosses over entire countries in the Region.

I think the title may just be wrong

He meant Southern Africa, referencing countries like South Africa, Rhodesia, Namibia etc

True but this wasn't southern Africa. It would take a while to cover the whole continent

They were Crown Colonies so had no self rule thus was officially at war with Germany when the British Crown declared war. But just like the other colonies there was no conscription but a call to volunteer.

The person who wrote in said 'South Africa' by mistake. Neidell clearly knows better and made that clear in his answer

They were under South African rule

Namibia was part of South Africa during ww2 so they naturally fought on the side of the allies.

They stopped being a German colony, like all Germany's overseas colonies, after WW1. They'd been run by South Africa under the British Empire ever since then, and until 1990.

@@christiaanstrydom2051 Not technically a 'part' of, but yes governed by.

some tribes in Namibia where pretty pro german but they lacked the means to fight against britain/ SA

Namibia didn't exist then.

Indeed. It wasn't used in South Africa to recruit Afrikaners. It was used in the Netherlands to recruit among the Dutch, which is why the quote at the top is in Afrikaans but the bottom is in standard Dutch. Even in Germany, the Nazis used Paul Kruger as one of many 'Aryan' icons, as a 'hero' who stood for white civilisation in the midst of black South Africa, even funding a film about him ('Ohm Kruger' in German). And even if the Dutch weren't as knowledgeable about Afrikaners as people often assume, most Dutch people had at least heard of Kruger and would be able to understand the Afrikaans quote (even if the Dutch is a bit different), and even see him as a proud Dutch figure of some sort. But it's still a bit unusual, yeah.

@@chequereturned "Even in Germany, the Nazis used Paul Kruger as one of many 'Aryan' icons, as a 'hero' who stood for white civilisation in the midst of black South Africa" The import point you're missing is a hero to Afrikaaners in their war against the British. It was little to do with Africans at all.

@@tpower1912 Oh meant that to be a second part - guess I didn't finish my comment. But it was definitely both. I grew up in South Africa and we spent a stupidly long amount of time on the Boer War in school, taught from a very Afrikaner perspective (not that the Afrikaners don't have genuine, severe grievances there, with the concentration camps). He was a 'hero' against the Basotho before the main Anglo-Boer War broke out. As for propaganda, the Nazis' Ohm Kruger came out deep into the war, as did their film 'Titanic' by the same production company, which also focused on the British as perfidious Albion - both are interesting to watch from a propaganda perspective.

To add to this regarding NZ and SA. A lot of this mistrust lies on Pienaar who made some extremely questionable and outright treasonous decisions which led to a lot of NZ deaths during Operation Crusader iirc. I'm actually not sure what pienaars rationale was but man that guy really was something.

The fact that you did not bring up the concentration camps where the Brits killed thousands of Afrikaners during the 2nd Anglo Boer war and the fact that there was still a lot of resentment also says a lot about your biased view on the matter.

​@@christoduplessis8177dw, it was brought up in nearly all the other comments. Maybe the author did want to add something to the pool.

@@lc1138 yeah but if you are going to talk about this you can't ignore that by being beaten in the 2nd Anglo Boer war meant in WW2 we had to fight with the people that beat us against the people that helped us. Do you think they knew about the holocaust in South Africa during 1939-1945? They didn't. So to say Afrikaners are pro Nazi without context of the war against the Brislts and not knowing all that was happening under Nazi rule is ridiculous.

@@christoduplessis8177 The British are most arrogant and blind people on Earth. Hence the state of their country. They'll go on lying about people like the Boers up to the day they lose all their land.

Because þere were communist spies in high places, same reason we stopped funding pro-Monarchist partisans in Nazi Jugoslavia.

Because the war was never about protecting Poland, it was about Britain and France wanting to take out Germany as an Imperialist rival.

heh... well im glad you asked hitler and the socialists had been going around the world for years gifting fancy cars to important people in other peoples colonies and trying to cause trouble he also broke every peace treaty and rebuilt the german army then used it, so he had to go

because it ignores all nuance, as other comments pointed out, the brittish interned both boer and german populations in concentration camps, the former during the anglo boer wars, the latter during ww2 (former german teritories that were integrated into south africa) smuts was cambridge educated, anglophile and apparantly a friend of churchill segregation was in effect prior to independence and whilst it does not make it ok post independence they formed the notion that they should at least provide equal amenities for the black population (considder that the black population was far far larger however, and the companies hired for the job would have been white owned and opperated, most large corporations in south africa have a black spokesman anglo white board and mixed workers (though mostly black) for them it is great that all the hostile attention is primarily directed at the boer population, which contrary to the anglo population is actively discriminated against, denied jobs, denied wellfare programs, and all this because the current south african system is perhaps more segregationist than it's white favouring predecessor, they work with quota relative to population for just about everything, worsened by politically legitemised hatred towards whites and again mostly the boer population it means that they do not only get much less opportunities and can't compete with the anglo's in that regard but corruption takes from everyone and when you allready get far less it means you are as good as doomed, not so long ago this was the case for water subsidies, they never found their way to most farms and south africa screwed itsself. funny how their EDF (could be wrong about the acronym) (communist party) utilises the same promisses and the same rhetoric as the actual nazis used though addapted to the target of their own hatred (though they also hate jews as per their speeches on how israely infiltrators are training all the boers (in truth ex israeli soldiers offered their services for training boers (for pay).

​@@istoppedcaring6209the EFF isn't our communist party, their is one SACP (South African Communist Party) but their barely get any votes. The EFF is a radical Marxist-Comunist offshoot exiles from the ANC after they started getting trained by the USSR in the 1960's and 1970's to actively and military oppose the apartheid South Africa's government, the ANC simmered down following the end of apartheid and got fat on corruption, while the EFF still went on and on about continuing the plans to kill all whites, and got kicked out for being too radical.

This was ww2, in 1946 all these countries got independence

Eswatini?

You don't want to give them guns, they might learn to use em. Makes oppression harder afterwards. :/ Also I recall Henri de Monfreid (a french "gentleman of contraband") saying that it was a mistake to let the africans kill white people. It enforced the feeling it was possible, in his opinion. (In the few books I read from him, he seems to view the africans as pure from the corruption of civilization, until we europeans arrive.)

Idk the idea was probably that black people were too incompetent to fight properly and they didn't want their front-line troops to perform badly. Which also doesn't make any sense but hey sounds like something a racist might believe.

Smuts wanted more soldiers, parliment was in a deadlock and so Smuts made a deal with his political opposition (the very anti British NP party) the deal meant that Smuts would be able to recruit another couple of thousand non whites but they must not fight, if they where to they had to use their ancestral weapons (shields and spears) this meant that no sane general would use them in the frontine battlefield roles, South Africa also viewed the issue as sending non whites to fight a European war as insulting. The majority of South Africans didn't hate the other groups, rather the government just wanted to continue the British policy's to ensure more mass cheap labour.

Also it’s generally not the wisest thing to arm and train your underclass (1) - participation in the war would give Native south africans a bargaining chip in the suffrage campaign, much like working class whites a generation prior; which the country was not politically or socially ready for at time (2). It was very much a hot button topic and precipitated the collapse of liberalism in the South African political system, which has *barely* recovered since.

It's the same old story. The so called elite Afrikaaners aligned with the British because they benefited from the system. The British put them in positions with a degree of power and influence The average Afrikaaner remained a dirt poor second class citizen.

This comes from a common misunderstanding that the Boers and Afrikaners are the same people. The Second Boer war was between the Boers and the British while the Afrikaners lived in the Cape colony not involved in the war. It was mostly Afrikaners that signed up to go and help their British masters in WW1 while the Boers rebelled. After the Second Boer war the Afrikaner began assimilating the devastated Boers into their own Afrikaner identity and that is why there is so much confusion between the Afrikaner and Boer names.

@@JUAN_OLIVIER thank you very much. That clears up a lot on the subject

Meh.

Only a couple thousand German settlers lived in German Namibia and the majority migrated back, when Germany lost its colonies in 1919

@@almoslabant1554 approx 30k still live there and about 100k left

doen´t forget that even among the natives many tribes hold the germans in high esteem (certanly not the hereros and namas though)

This was a question that someone sent in. Indy Neidell clearly knows that, and made that clear with the way he answered it.

TBF namibia wasn´t really anything of worth that was just a matter of Prestige

waht

gemology proves otherwise it shows that the black people nowherdays living ther invaded and killed of the actual native population

and ther where massive amounts of arab volunteers most of them from iraq

I remember back in an early episode of ww2 Indy mentioned that the leader of Egypt was hoping for an axis occupation of the country, probably thinking it would lead to freedom from the British instead of...well...a different overlord.

it really doesn´t - apartheid was just an attempt to unite the dutch and english in that land - the dutch really hated the english for obvious reasons - so creating a common enemy (the blacks) was the goal of Apartheid

Funny how the last 400 years of British colonialism get ignored when it comes time to blame Germans for apartheid.

Not quite, the larger NP wasn't fascist, rather just racially conservative, their was some fascim mostly in the free state, but even then they where viewed as a minority as the larger NP favoured the Imperial Germans more than the nazi ones, the soldiers who returned form the second world war had founded common South African ground with eachother, stuck in a foreign land surrounded by foreigners the South Africans white and non white found only comfort in uniting as South Africans regardless of race or language, upon returning to South Africa they viewed the NP government as insulting to them and their brothers and formed the Torch Kommandos who wanted Equal rights for all skin colours and languages in South Africa, equal before God, the NP government disliked this and crushed the movement to the point where they wrote South Africans out of the history books and only mentions them as British soldiers, the ANC has continued this to this day, refering to South Africa's involment as small and mostly not significant then shows how bunch of pictures of "British soldiers" all with South African names.

@@gidi3250 I know, they just saw them as not much better, just a bit less genocidal.

No. As integral colonies, the Rhodesias didnt have a choice as their international policy was dictated by London.

@@vincespeedmk223 Exactly what I am saying. here it sounded as if they were choosing to be "firmly behind the British", in reality they had no say in anything, they were subjugated and controlled.

The King's African Rifles were from British East Africa (Malawi, Uganda and Kenya) where segregation was less harsh. South Africa has always had more white settlers and thus harsher restrictions on Black Africans

@@tomerpilo5193 According to Wikipedia, hardly the most "Right Wing" source, the 1904 census had the white population at 21.6%. By 1960, this had fallen to less than 20%. You're spouting nonsense. Maybe Zulu and other black South Africans didn't want to join up, maybe they did. But the claim "black soldiers were only allowed in supporting roles" is too broad a statement.

The King's Africa Rifles fought in British units not South African units. South Africa had their own army just like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. So the King's Africa Rifles were part of a completely different armed forces.

@@christiaanstrydom2051 Okay. The video is still misleading as it implies that it was British policy, rather than South African that was the problem.

@@edwardcullen1739 "self governing British dominion with full sovereignty." Anyone who knows what that means will know that South Africa made its own decisions regarding domestic affairs such as armed forces/recruitment. So no it's not misleading.

Its literally a World War 2 channel. That's kind of the idea

@@unbearifiedbear1885fr

I can't say about Northern Rhodesia but Southern Rhodesia sent a huge percentage of its population to fight the nazis, and at the time the service was voluntary. In fact for both wars they had to be told to stop going to war or the country would run out of people to run the economy