I'm saying it right now: tier listing dungeons and raids like this is an untapped gold mine on KZfaq. DO IT.

I think a Trials list would lots of fun, with a lot tough ones, especially if you consider narrative impact.

My beef with Stone Vigil is that it's two levels before Aetherflow and Addersgall and feels like it's balanced with those skills in mind.

For all things this makes me appreciate Endwalker changes to Dungeons even more. Like bloody hell how many changes there were, Sheeesh

I remember when starting the game I picked conjurer, because I loved the fantasy of being a healer- then Aurum Vale came, and I just didn’t understand I had to eat the fruit, and didn’t watch my health bar so I kept dying. Tank left, friends got annoyed (understandably) but I cannot learn well under stress, so it was a whole mess. Luckily tho, I queues up as a healer on roulettes and got it a while later, I did it in the end :D

Tam-Tara Hard Mode is one of the best dungeons in the game. The story behind it, the journal entries, the bosses and the atmosphere are all great.

I appreciate that you nod to the context in which the early dungeons were made - both in needing to be tutorials AND the dev team still figuring out what they want the dungeon-running experience to even BE. It feels so weird going into Thousand Maws now and not being capable of getting lost, not having to tear through webs with attacks, never turning a corner and getting poisoned by an exploding sac. But the old Maws design was the epitome of "Design in the shadow of WoW" and it makes sense that they'd move away from that. My hope is that XIV's team is able to craft experiences that feel a little less on-rails at least the first few times (I feel like Mt Gulg and Amaurot both pulled this off with sheer spectacle, while Paglth'an had just as much spectacle but you could really feel the on-rails sensation anyway. It's HARD to do this right!). More than that, I hope they continue to ponder what the goals are that they've answered with their on-rails dungeons, and keep questioning whether there's another way to deliver that experience that doesn't have the drawbacks of the on-rails experience. Even if the answer is always no, spending time asking the question will keep their work from getting stale.

Fun video! Would love to see trials and raids you wanna talk about to I think 24 mans would be fun especially.

I’ll try running through each dungeon while I listen to this in parts. How’s that? 😃

i'm glad these are coming back!!

Pharos Syrius has one of the best musical themes of any dungeon in the entire game, though. A Light in the Storm, I think it's called. It's interesting listening to you since SOMEtimes, your rating is about what mine would be. But then other times, you rate things exactly the opposite of how I would. It's kinda crazy.

Hey man I appreciate the video but also appreciate you and what you do for the community. Hope you're doing well homie

Glad these videos are back! I was really looking forward to seeing your tier list for Stormblood and Shadowbringers back in the day. You have a refreshing perspective on dungeons that made me appreciate some that I would have otherwise never thought twice about, such as Xelphatol. Are there any dungeons in this list that you would re-tier in light of the changes that Endwalker brought to them?

I'll be waiting for your 6.3 Paladin rotation guide WeskAlber. I've been following your guide ever since I played FF XIV.

Sunken Temple: I've noticed recently that it seems you must wait for the new platform for the Dooms after the first. The change and Doom happen kind of at the same time, and it feels like the current Doom only works on the new platform. Still, the visual cue could be better by simply not glowing after doom timer runs out.

Also, i would love to listen to some alliance raid, trial and raid rankings! Very nice to listen to at work.

Castrum was amazing as a social experience. Felt like a bonding experience and a rite of passage for new players. Having played the new version, it just feels soulless. The old one was chockfull of shenanigans like placing CID backwards and shit like that. Livia was fun even when people didn't know what the fuck was going on and ran around like headless chickens. It took a bit more time than the new version (like 5 minutes) but it was a lot more fun and hectic. New Praetorium feels exactly the same but with less people, which is to say it's boring and takes just as long (minus the two bosses they removed to make into a trial).

re 6:50 funnily/sadly I can think of another dungeon with leashing distances Copperbell hard

My favorite part about old praetorium was that all of those enemies you skipped left you stuck in combat, so you could, as a healer, rescue that one idler onto the elevator. Oh right, for you new players, old praetorium had actual elevators that actually moved. No teleporters disguised as elevators.

Always interesting to hear others opinions. We have totally different taste in dungeons lol. Haukke, Brayflox, and later Shisui are all easy SS tier for me. I also love the first Qarn boss and hate the change to Coincounter. Aurum Vale as a fresh level 47 warrior all those years ago was an incredible experience. Challenging, fun, and a great education all in one. I totally agree with your very bottom tier though. When that was in expert it was the bane of my life lol. Cheers for the interesting content.

Yeah, do the raids next :)

I absolutely despise stone vigil hard honestly one of the worst dungeon in the game for me

I think they should definitely revisit some of the more more unique design elements from ARR dungeons

Hacked manor is based off of Elizabeth Batherie...so SS tier for real world references.

Bruh did halatali hard dirty. That might be much favorite ARR dungeon The themeing is fun and I think the 2nd boss is fun.

Objectively correct. Can't wait to see more

We all know Aurum Vale (first room especially) and Dzemael Darkhold are mistakes and you should never be queued into these dungeons Also, great idea ranking these dungeons

I love your content but i would like to request an island sanctuary guide from you.

i greatly preferred old toto rak before the overhaul. sure it looks pretty but it just turned into a basic bitch generic dungeon. pretty much all the other ARR changes they did were better, but not that one

I know this vid is kinda old, but it would've been nice if you had footage of the dungeons while you talked about them, I know that's probably more effort than a video like this is afforded but since I'm still pretty nee to the game I'm not super familiar with the dungeons

I miss the days back when the lv50 and below dungeons had complicated and fun mechanics that put our brains to the "test" as noobs to the game haha sadly they recently changed them all. Glad i went through em when i did years back

It's back!!!

Was coincounter not having indicators good game deisgn? Hell no. Did it add to Aurum's hilarious reputation for clobbering sprouts? Absolutely. I miss watching Aurum runs fall into chaos.

I'm so sad they changed keeper of the lake

Heavensword and onward dungeons i think would be much more interesting, so many ARR dungeons are just teaching you *one* mechanic.

8 minutes in and I realize that you're using a lot of outdated information regarding the dungeons that were updated in an Endwalker patch. Namely calling the Castrum and Prae "8-mans", and bashing Copperbell for its awful first two bosses (that are now a lot more palatable). I dunno if you do correct yourself later in the video or if you for some reason rank the new versions of dungeons seperately, but either way, I'd suggest ranking the dungeons for what they are like *presently.* EDIT: Nevermind, I'm stupid, didn't see the disclaimer at the start of the video.