That argument falls apart when you look at all the dogshit teams in “real conferences” who don’t even make it into the tournament. Examples: Northwestern (Big 10), DePaul (Big East), Georgia (SEC), Oregon State (PAC-12), Kansas State (Big 12) But Gonzaga is supposedly a “fraud” for losing in the natty 🙄 🤦‍♂️

Honestly, I think it comes from jealousy. The Zags are almost always on the top for AP rankings and seeding. And quite frankly, having a family of Gonzaga alumni’s, the Zags used to be a Cinderella team. They would never make the top 25. Now people hate on them because their teams are never as credited at the Zags are.

Zag fan lovin the hate makes winning a lot more fun and Zags have been the winningest team in college ball 8 years running so it has been fun.

I don't get how people don't love the Cinderella story that Gonzaga is: A tiny little Jesuit college in a dying mining city in a remote corner of the country that was ready to shut its doors before the 1998 run to the Elite 8. The school was seriously about to withdraw from D-1 sports and attendance was so low, they were about to go bankrupt. Over the course of a decade, with little money and no top-talent recruiting, an unheralded coach turns the program from a school most tournament announcers couldn't pronounce into a household name and perennial national title contender. It's an underdog story for the ages.

@Treel this is literally provably false. Yes, they haven't won the natty, but they have more tourney wins in the last decade than ANY OTHER TEAM. Why be willfully ignorant?

Love my Zags, but doubt they will ever be champs. They quit at the end of their first championship game, and didn't show up for the first several minutes in their second championship game. This year they just aren't good enough.

@Treel I believe your right, be that as it may, then it falls to the coaching preparation and players off the bench to rise up and nip this problem in the bud. These players are studying at a prestigious institution, where the academics are no joke...why should college basketball be any different? They aren't playing against 5th,6th, and seven year seniors, not yeaht any way. Against Baylor it was lack of weight room muscle, they couldn't put manuver the muscley blocks and defensive pushes and block outs. It reminded me of Junior High School Football. I was huge in 6th grade, I was on a poor boy decline to a taller slim husky 6 foot 7th grader. I got pushed around by all the kids who I played in Flag Football, they lifted weights in 5th & 6th grade. I was years behind, when it should of been months. Preparation with coaching and player coaching. Players who've stayed behind to contribute. What Gonzaga needs is Turah or Morrison or other Gonzaga Alumni to mentor these Collegiate Superstars into Collegiate Champions. I think this experience fact and weight room muscle are key ingredients along with more coaches preparation. Oh if I were King for just one day!

@@joeboo8626 That's not important this time. The field is wide open- there's not a clear cut favorite or anyone close to being as good as Baylor was last year. It's not what you have, it's what everyone else has. There's probably 8-10 legitimate teams this year that can win it, and Gonzaga is certainly one of them. I think they have a better shot this year.

I hate when a 1-3 seed wins. Let’s have a 9 seed win like Kentucky that one time.

What naysayers? They're #1 and will get a #1 seed and for years they've been considered elite.

they got a cupcake schedule as soon as they play a top team in march its wraps for them

@Treel Gonzaga is 20-6 in the tourney since 2015. They’ve made 6 straight Sweet 16s (most in CBB). 4/6 Elite 8s (most). 2/4 NC games (tied for most). They have the 2nd highest winning % in the tournament over that time span (Nova is 1st). How exactly do they just fail every year again?

@@6foot6nochicks Gonzaga’s record against the “Power 6” conferences (they play a lot of these games in the NonCon every year) is just as insane as their conference win %. They are 12-3 in the first 2 quadrants this year with all their L’s in quad 1. The WCC has as many teams in the tourney as the Pac12. 1 fewer than the ACC (BYU had a better resume than ND so this was a joke).

@@6foot6nochicks Like do you even think at all before you spout absolute, ignorant garbage? Personally, I like to at least google a schedule. Or maybe just research GU’s tournament record recently. Maybe you should learn what Vegas thinks (GU will be favored in every game in the tourney). Vegas understands that every year in the tournament, picking “the field” is ALWAYS the best bet. Making 2/4 NC games is WAY harder than winning 1. This should be obvious but people like you REALLY don’t understand statistics and probability.

WCC CHAMPIONS GONZAGA BULLDOGS

Of course they did, they will every year because they are grossly mis-conferenced, it's like putting duke in the big sky and pretending like its a surprise when they win the conference every single year.

@@AspireGMD But Gonzaga wasn't "put" in the WCC. They were born out of it. Do you ever consider the time it took to build this program? Just 10 years ago we were another St Marys.

@Treel they have the best March madness record out of any teams in the last 6 years… you’re such a clown with your L take on the game. Get a little educated buddy.

@Treel they’re given the high seed because they’ll do things like go undefeated in the regular season while playing tough teams in non conference schedule

@Treel 5 straight sweet sixteens speaks for itself

@Treel you’re such a clown lol. You clearly don’t know how statistics work and your clearly have no willingness to learn. So just stop talking because you’re making yourself look like a fool and honestly it’s funny to watch you blabber on trying to defend yourself lol. Like I said, get a little educated buddy.

@Treel 🤡

@Treel this is a tired and simply false take. Their non-conference schedule is usually the toughest out of anyone. It was the toughest again this year and they steamrolled almost everyone. Their national tournament performance over the last ten years is better than almost any other team.

@Treel what a clown. L take. I’m so sorry that your team is garbage and can’t get passed the first round in the tournament. Must suck.

@Treel oh yeah because the stadium size has everything to do with player’s skill🤣🤣

@Treel hey, I'm not going to be vitriolic over the internet, but this take is tired and is also objectively false. Like, you're just wrong, homie. Yes, they haven't won the natty (although they've made two) but they've won more tourney games in the last decade than ANY OTHER TEAM. Where are you getting your perspective from? It's not rooted in reality. Sometimes it does you good to just enjoy good things (like great basketball) without trying to poke holes in it.

@Treel the committee could be called biased for any blue blood then. They earn their seeds. Contrary to your wrong opinion, gonzaga has gone into the tourney ranked top 5 in KenPom for 5 of the last 10 years and in the top 10 for 9 of the last 10. So your idea that the committee is biased is also not based in reality. Of course, that is unless you think kenpom, coaches polls, or any of the analytics are wrong and you're right. They're good. Sucks that it puts your panties in a bunch. I can't imagine putting so much effort into blindly disliking a team that has nothing to do with you. Peace.

Hard to say literally no clear “championship” caliber team

KD looked pretty much the same coming out of Texas. Look at em now

@@Lancinator784 horrible comparison, KD was always an elite athlete and much quicker than this kid… he’s also a perimeter player which holgren isn’t lol…

@@derrekw3493 it’s Holmgren, my friend, not holgren.

@@derrekw3493 Kevin Garnett is a prime example. But basketball today is a lot more different then it was back in the day. It’s not as physical anymore

@@derrekw3493 it’s not. chet can be a perimeter player. he’s over 40% from three, can stretch the floor, and play inside. but everyone said the exact same thing about KD, he wasn’t an elite athlete in college.

Because Saint Mary's is a really good program. It's a shame the conference is losing BYU because it made for great competition most years. Maybe San Fran will be able to step into their place and continue ascending as a program. The WCC isn't trash. It's probably the best mid-major conference in the country. Pretty amazing when you think of the size of the schools and their budgets.

St Mary's is a great program and their style of "taking the air out of the ball" and being ultra patient can absolutely throw teams off.

St Mary’s is actually a great program. If Randy Bennett had top tier talent to work with he could definitely coach a team deep in the tourney.

That’s not how college basketball works

Exactly that’s why they get beat every year in the tournament

@@kelvinconner7878 Jesus Christ how old is this nonsense. Gonzaga has the most tournament wins since 2015. 20 wins (Nova is 2nd with 17). Gonzaga has made 6 straight Sweet 16s (next closest is 4 in that time frame). They’ve made more Elite 8s than anyone in that time frame. They’ve made 2 of the last 4 National Championship games (would’ve been a 1 seed in ‘20 but no tourney). They’ve been the winningest team in the NCAA tournament over the last 6-7 years when the program really took the next step into elite tier. They were tied in the last minute of one NC game in ‘17 and then played their worst game of the season against an incredible Baylor team last year. I mean every team except one “gets beaten in the tournament every year,” so I’m not sure what that really even means. It’s just ignorant nonsense. GU has no football team. They are a small Catholic school. If it was physically possible to join the Big East, they would have. The WCC is the best conference in the country this year outside the Power 5/BE. It’s right even with the American and MWC. So… what would you have them do? It obviously hasn’t hurt them in the tournament considering they’ve won more tournament games than anyone since ‘15. They’ve had just as good of a record in the NonCon against those so called “power 5” teams as they have had against the WCC. Stop with the ignorance.

@@kelvinconner7878 👆 just stop you look like an illogical idiot.

@@GoZags43 and how many championships have they won😂

@@SSale12mayweather they’re overrated asf. Tournament wins means nothing without a championship

It's all about matchups. That's just the way march madness works.

@@idahoandude3284 Absolutely. The tournament is mostly luck, anyway. - single-elimination tournament isn’t a good way to determine the best team. That’s why NBA finals is a 7game series.

@@f.r.etling6226 I love the chaos though. Both the nba playoffs and march madness have their own charm and excitement and I like the contrast.

@F.R Etling I could totally see that happening but because the tourney is such a crapshoot to begin with I’ve always felt that the Zags first national champion team might be the one we least expect-or at least a team like this that’s good enough to win it but has its issues like you said. If Chet can break out of his recent shooting slump and got hot again from three and if Strawther and Timme are successful as go to guys late in games than I love this team’s chances. All the contenders this year including Gonzaga have had great highs and head scratching lows that makes me doubt all of them heavily. Gonna be a lot of fun to see what happens

@@baseballpimp1910 I've been feeling the same thing. If and when we get our first title, it will just happen when it happens. There's never going to be "our year". If the stars align, we will win it. Otherwise, we fight another year. One thing I know for sure--we will be back for more. I remember in 2017 when we lost in the natty, everyone said that was THE year to win it, and we would never be able to do it. But, after 4 years, we eventually made it back. Yes, we lost. But we showed that it can be done again. We will be back in the natty one day, and you know what they say--third times the charm.

Ya right. They're really good.

Look at their backcourt 3-point percentage and offensive efficiency. Now with a rim protector like Holmgren, they are better than last year defensively.

They can't stop anyone. Saint Mary's shut them down twice and they are horrible from the free line. No get back up when they are knocked down, just like every year

@@cmerks5 Gael"s beat them once. And the Gael's have the number 9 defense in the league. The Zags are deep and if you shut down Timme and Holmgren you still have to contest with the incredible shooting of the Zags including Bolton who shoots FORTY SIX percent from 3-poinr range.

But I agree, they still need to prove themselves by cutting down the nets in the Tournament. They'll have to contest with some REALLY good terms in the East including possibly Purdue, Duke. Kentucky, and Kansas among others. Also it would be interesting if they played Arizona.

Two Finals' appearance in 4 years is being exposed in the tournament? They've made it to at least the second round for 13 seasons, with numerous Sweet Sixteen, quarter and semi final appearances. You should probably WATCH basketball

How did it feel when they lobotomized you? I’m assuming that’s what happened right? Or were you dropped on your head repeatedly as a small child? I’m sorry for whichever it was, but spouting complete ignorance like this just isn’t a good look for anyone. GU is 1st in every opponent adjusted metrics site out there. Vegas has them as the best team in CBB. 20-6 record in the tourney since 2015 (best in CBB). 6 straight Sweet 16s (most in CBB). 2/4 NC games (tied with Nova). How is losing 1 game of 35 last season show us anything except that Gonzaga was either the best or 2nd best team in CBB??

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That hasn’t happened in a decade, so… I wouldn’t count on it.

Anything can happen but I wouldn't bet on that.

I would bet my dog they make it past round of 32