Agree totally. Lord Marburg was a beautiful character, brash, loud, out there, but coming to the point spot on. This level of respect to those who disagree, imagine that in today’s world.

You mean Gerald, of course.

Took me a second. With Marbury always so sharp tongued, I thought it initially was some kind of a dig at Leo...not an incredibly kind gesture of respect.

@@Zypher77777 Marbury was very serious when it was required of him. Here he was essentially on the clock and acting as ambassador in place of England, he was very serious. His take on the missile shield is wrong though. Yes, a peer country would build a weapon to beat it. Now, we are seeing that come to fruition, we have a somewhat effective shield so hypersonics are being built by China and Russia to beat it However, there are other countries out there like North Korea and a missile shield is a great idea with rogue nations like that in the world.

Is he “Lord Marbury” whose first name is John, or John, the son of the real noble whose children get the courtesy title of “Lord Marbury” like Churchill’s father was “Lord Randolph Churchill”, the son then brother of the Duke of Marlborough (of the Churchill family)? They seem to address him in either fashion in his appearances.

oh, so VERY classy. Lord John was aloof...but when focused... considering all the other times,,, how disrespectful LJM was to 'Gerald', this was nice to see.

@@googoo-gjoobI never really felt he was disrespectful, but rather taking digs at him because he knew how much it bothered Leo, but that they both held each other with some regard. This scene proves that to me.

this. endless this. showing respect but still disagreeing. (2019 US gov completely lacks this ability. not a slam to trump - as cult45 will assume - but just admiration for the concept of actively respecting people ... while politely FACTUALLY disagreeing.) I miss pre-2017.

I love how Yanks think Lord John is a form of address.

@@op3129 Respectfully disagreeing has been a lost art since before 2017, but I take your point.

God needs to help us save America. For the first time in my life, I had trouble singing 'God Save the Queen' at the Remembrance Day services this year. She's protecting her 2nd son Andrew by throwing her granddaughter-in-law to the wolves of the British tabloids. So, ..America is in the tank and the BRF is in the process of tanking and I seem to be losing all hope for the greater good.

Surly Gale Yes to all of that 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

You already did.

That little exchange encapsulates the ideal of how international relations should be conducted.

Amen to that Scott!

Graham Kennedy God, that’s good.

I thought he would

That was my favorite line, but I always understood it as he acknowledging after thinking it over that, although they won the war, they lost the battle for public opinion in the long term. That fits in well with his center left positions throughout the show. Did anyone else saw it that way?

@ABritishGuy Imperialism in 1982 is not a pretty face. And what became of it? swap Argentina with Chile, that has been the net result. It just is not a good look when a world power fights a war of ownership over land 10,000 miles away.

A missed opportunity definitely.

He should have said "Well there is a first time for everything"

Bit of a reference to the Falkland Islands here… for those who aren’t familiar, it was an unofficial war between Argentina and the UK in the 80s. The UK ‘won’, but war was never really declared in the first place. That’s why his reaction to hearing that he was beat by Argentina was a bit slow😂. The writing on this show😍

True but they have a friendly rivalry. Marbury's quips and one liners toward's Leo could be seen as a way to teasing a best friend.

" Having been educated at Cambridge and the Sorbonne I am, as you know, exceedingly stupid." Just priceless.

I love the exchange he had with Toby about dead Irish poets and terrorists being invited to the White House.

GERALD!!!!

I rather like when they’re arguing about the shield before and Marbury tells him that “any argument you make in its defense will surely be… (pause)… moronic.”

I'll go with The Wire for greatest TV series ever. This is a pretty close second tho......

Gerald!

And for people with an attention span of longer than 5 seconds. I loved every single episode...

Also, he can be Lord John Marbury, or Lord Marbury, but he can't be both.

You are correct

Lots of other errors, too. She's not "Her Royal Majesty", she's "Her Majesty" (or in this context potentially "Her Britannic Majesty"); and he can't be both "Lord John Marbury" (which would make him the younger son of a peer) and "Lord Marbury" (which would make him a peer in his own right). I love this programme, but I am sure the US State Department gets protocol right, and I think it's a shame the people who made The West Wing didn't bother to do their research.

@@timothyjames6412 correct. In this context, she would be referred to as Her Brittanic Majesty. And it is the United Kingdom And you are spot on in his titles. In Dead Irish Writers, he refers to himself as “John, Lord Marbury, Earl of Croy, Marquess of Needham and Dolby, Baronet of Brycey.” The highest of those is the Marquess. Unless he held that in his own right, he would be the son of a Duke. His titles are all fubar

@@timothyjames6412 Sorkin's a brilliant writer of dialogue and deep thoughts, but sometimes you want to facepalm at his lack of research. He gets almost nothing right when it comes to military dialogue.

He’s not the ambassador from Great Britain nor the ambassador from the UK. He is the ambassador from The Court of St. James.

John Amos showed himself to be a versatile actor over the years . Always liked him .

I LOVE golf. I'd play every day if I could. It's the game I love to hate........

Actually he said "then withstand it I shall" which is even funnier! :)

I would have gone with something like," What manner of history are you colonials teaching?"

It’s odd because they got that right in the first season when he’s introduced.

Not nitpicking at all: the State Department's Head or Protocol wouldn't make mistakes in protocol.

I wouldn't know that but people writing a show about the White House damned sure should have.

I believe it was his reading glasses that he was retrieving from his desk.

It wasnt a falkland Island reference-we defeated a ragbag of unwilling, uncared for ,scared stiff conscripts. Its a reference to a Soccer World cup defeat by Argentina who won through a cheating use of the hand

and the AI in Nick Fury’s car.

More likely a reference to World Cup Soccer, since India, Pakistan, or Jamaica would have beaten them in cricket.

dare?

Over that hand boy!

I’ll pay for this!

OMG I NEVER NOTICED THAT WAS THE SAME ACTOR. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

maybe learn to spell

Gerry Leddy: Or, perhaps more accurately still: the Court of St. James does.

or to give it its full name, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

@@simpleNomadUK No Plato Bach is correct.

Historically, offense has always trumped defense. They built cities with thicker walls, someone came up with bigger cannons. 😮

Warren Ripley It had been established that the current monarch is the second of the Name. It is not necessary, nor polite, to recap this.

Actually he forgot to say Her Royal Bitchness Queen whatever the hopefully last!

Actually Her Majesty is Queen Elizabeth the second of England, Wales and Ireland (the Northern part that is) She is Queen Elizabeth of Scotland. No first second or other numeral. When Elizabeth Tudor was monarch she was not the ruler of Scotland. So Elizabeth Windsor is simply Queen Elizabeth in Scotland.

He was a great character. Really good writing for his character!

State gifts can range anywhere from ornate weaponry to pieces of art to artifacts. It just depends on the administration

​@@orangecrusch1987 Previous administration gave out Trump's biography no doubt .

Lol

They do it for dramatic effect

I agree. With respect to the other poster I can’t see any dramatic effect in this kind of mistake.

No idea. Probably the former.

I thought it was a reference to the Falklands War.

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

@@jeremyhowell8235 That's kind of cool. I assume it is slightly different when they come representing Canada or Australia.

@@seanwebb605 Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom, Australia and Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith

@@ignatiusq.snerdiiesq.7007 yes all of that is true. But it is just as proper to say "Queen of Canada" or "Queen of Australia" if its in reference to that country's head of state

@@timbredan3476 Well that all changes now.

No it wouldn’t. He is the ambassador from the Court of Saint James.

Even better: if somebody builds a better missile...build an *even better* shield

Since some current hereditary titles are already more than 700 years old, it will take a long time before the last of the present crop of titles disappears.

Umm, nope, you remember wrong. The British aristocracy and the House of Lords are entirely different things.

@@anthonycunningham8116 *They are 'one and the same' since a 'Commoner' cannot be a 'Lord' without the reigning Monarch declaring it or by 'Blood Right of Inheritance' declared by some previous King/Queen* (*save your childish 'Ums' and 'Nopes' for someone who'll be impressed with what an ill-informed twit you are* )

but they beat them in the world cup because o a hand goal

@@paulhenderson2895 That was 1986 ('hand of god'). In 1998, the year previous to this episode, Argentina beat England again by the narrowest of margins: after drawing 2-2 at full time, the penalty shoot-out went 4-3 in Argentina's favour.

As I recall: proper protocol would require this ambassador to be spoken of as... not from Great Britain, nor from the United Kingdom... but from the Court of Saint James's. WW goofed it in regards to Thailand as well. The head of state is referred to as HM King Bhumibol [pronounced "boomybon"]

It's whatever we say it is.

Because no one's ever met a United Kingdomer.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland is the name of the country. A person from that country is British! Not very hard to understand is it? Well maybe for americans I suppose..

shriramvenu For purposes of diplomatic protocol, one refers to the ambassador from the United Kingdom as the ambassador from the Court of Saint James's; John F Kennedy spent part of his youth in London as the son of the ambassador to the Court of Saint James's. Archaic, sure... but that's how it goes. Diplomatic protocol can strike an outsider as convoluted and often goofy, but those who engage in that sphere tend to adhere to its strictures with great tenacity. Thousands of Vietnamese and GIs died while the diplomats worked out the size, shape, and seating arrangements, for the table at the negotiations in Paris, for example.

Can you picture comrade pumpkinfuhrer even attempting to praise someone else, much less being able to pronounce the words "extraordinary" or "plenipotentiary"?

Why do you insist on dragging your shallow ideology into this? Just enjoy the clips from a great show and stfu.

Jack IS a surname in the US. I am not sure about the rest of the English speaking world but in the US, most first names are also occasionally used as surnames. For example... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jack