Western Historical Critical Method || Muslim Historians Toolkit || Dr Jonathan Brown

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@sabriya7647
@sabriya7647 4 ай бұрын
Excellent Informative talk
@alib7489
@alib7489 7 ай бұрын
Jazakallah Khair
@tomimn2233
@tomimn2233 4 ай бұрын
I woulda loved to see that intro tho.
@abbasr.7422
@abbasr.7422 7 ай бұрын
Can we now still safely say (some) hadith are 100% reliably traceable back to the prophet or not (especially hadith that deals with laws or advice that will take a huge courage to follow and goes against common sense but since the prophet said it, we must follow)? How do we know as a laymen? Since scholars can quote this hadith and the audience has no say in the matter.
@fab03102
@fab03102 6 ай бұрын
Very often "common sense" is actually cultural norm deep down. Cultures get things badly wrong, and modern western culture is certainly no exception. Muslim/Bukhari hahiths are probably something like 98 or 99% reliable.
@Reewnat
@Reewnat 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully, a Muslim will rely upon total trust of the Prophet (sallahu alayhi wasalaam) and almost total trust of his Companions and the Predecessors and then the 3rd gen. Thereafter, the science of Muslims examining and critiquing scholars is well documented. That was taken very seriously as biographies do not hold back on pointing out deficiencies of transmitters. Additionally the analysis of the substance of the text ran parallel. Next, the compiling into the various types of hadith literature provided another consistent vehicle. Lastly, we have the grading of hadiths from false to near infallible. Taken together, the level of review and scrupulousness of this process provides a level of near unprecedented reliability compared to any other people's history and religious text. In the end, history is reliant upon trust of people who came before, their reliability, and that of the consistency of the text. I feel secure in what we know of the hadith. Interpretation within context is something else, and alhumdulillah, we have Fiqh and the different madhabs that provide a broad, merciful breadth that has worked across time and cultures.
@TheEnd-um7yd
@TheEnd-um7yd Ай бұрын
It’s universal principles not “western”. The laws for physics don’t magically change as soon as you step foot in the Middle East.
@Anonyme3971
@Anonyme3971 24 күн бұрын
You can’t tell the difference between laws of physics and a HISTORICAL method, btw which are still very different NOWADAYS regarding what school of thought you follow ? Ever heard of maximalists, minimalists, traditionists, skeptics… please try being humble and at least try knowing a little bit about the subject before expressing yourself. That’s embarrassing.
@ezzy2254
@ezzy2254 9 күн бұрын
You can't equate the precise and mathematical laws of physics to the very conjectural and contextual methods of western historical criticism. This sort or equivalence existed even in the time of Ibn Qutayba and Al-Ghazali if you read their works, reductionists and false rationalists never fail to commit this error
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