"Wet" Compression Testing

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PCC AST Engine Performance

PCC AST Engine Performance

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the video on compression testing first. If you have a low (not 0) cylinder, a wet compression test is a common next step.

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@andrewhelmer7710
@andrewhelmer7710 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video; could you please do some videos on a compression and leak down test on a diesel engine fitted with an electronic diesel control (EDC) and also please show some examples of any potential dangers that could be caused to the engine if the correct procedures are not followed. For the compression test the diesel fuel shut off solenoid would have to be deactivated but I am not sure if any potential damage could be done to the EDC when carrying out a diesel compression test? Some workshop manuals can be confusing especially when a compression test covers various engines and is not specific enough to the individual engine being tested.
@halseyknox
@halseyknox 10 күн бұрын
What if I have wet cylinders-gas- from rich carb situation or weak spark or a combo. Should I remove carb and plugs and let air out/dry for s few days, maybe brake/carb in the hole to promote drying prior to compression test?
@derekkchung
@derekkchung 2 жыл бұрын
What if a stuck injector dumped so much fuel into one cylinder and cylinder is washed? Then it gives a low psi compared to the others, then u squirt oil in and bring back the compression, then u conclude that cylinder has failed rings? Washed cylinder and failed rings negates compression. Oil increases compression. What to trust?
@dannyc7839
@dannyc7839 4 күн бұрын
Does a wet compression test require a special tester?
@gbpino
@gbpino 3 ай бұрын
Great video. I just did a dry compression test on my 2001 Corvette Z06 and my number 7 cylinder gave me a number of 171. All other pistons are in the 195-200 range. I added 2 table spoons of oil to cylinder number 7 and that number jumped from 171 to 204. Is that without a doubt a ring problem?
@scientist100
@scientist100 13 күн бұрын
it appears to be so, usually that's all the adding oil does, coat the ring for better seal.
@sebastian993
@sebastian993 Жыл бұрын
also a great way to destroy whatever is left of your piston if it's a stuck valve and it suddenly decides to shut
@black_pj
@black_pj 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! i have a 350 c.i. long time sitting engine, i cranked it 'till its worm.. i try run it , it seemed too rich -spark plug indicates- mixture & barely starting. I did a dry test only and 2 4 6 8 are 175 psi each. Twice cranking. And 1 3 5 7 are 150 psi. Is that okay for an engine to start with each Cylinder banks pressure or they precisely have to be equal? and what's the ideal cylinder pressure number in an engine ? Thanks.
@kosh9639
@kosh9639 2 жыл бұрын
cylinders need Min. 100 psi to detonate... older Rebuilt V8 have around 250psi. +/- 20psi.. Some Newer (foreign) engines have around 350psi. (need to check your specs)
@ibraheem3abassi579
@ibraheem3abassi579 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I hope you could help me with my question. I have put new rings and bearings and assimmbled the engine the crank it and find out it does not run. Checking the compression, cylinder 1 and 6 on a v6 are outputting 90 psi sharp and the rest giving me 30 sharp. The engine does not run. Can you give me hints on my this is happening. I did not check the end gap between the rings as I bought standard rings and naively enough thought everything will be okay. Thanks alot man
@pccastengineperformance7844
@pccastengineperformance7844 3 жыл бұрын
Well all of your compression is too low to run. Have you tried to do a wet compression test? It sounds like something may have happened to the piston rings on installation. What type of tool did you use to install them?
@ibraheem3abassi579
@ibraheem3abassi579 3 жыл бұрын
@@pccastengineperformance7844 hey man, thanks for your efforts, I rechecked the timing belt and found that the belt was 3 tooth away from being timed, got it to where it should be and the compression jumped back to a minimum of 150 dry compression however, I have an interference engine, one cylinder had both intake valves bent resulting in 0 compression 😭
@dinto_louis
@dinto_louis Жыл бұрын
Hi, the wet reading on one of the cylinders is lower than dry reading..what could be the inference..? I have done dry & wet compression test on my VW Polo 1.2 TDI..the reading is lower in the wet test than the dry test on cylinder number 3..? Dry: 1 - 26.7 (Bar) 2 - 26.5 3 - 27.8 Wet: 1 - 27.6 2 - 26.7 3 - 26.3
@geoepi321975
@geoepi321975 Жыл бұрын
How much oil you put, you lowered the volume inside
@GHOSTWERX23
@GHOSTWERX23 2 жыл бұрын
So a cold compression test 03 Ranger 3.0l 155 150 155 140 90 150 Used a drinking straw 1 time to get some oil into the cylinder on the 90. It went to 95..... am I good to say it's the stuck valve that these heads are notorious for....
@pccastengineperformance7844
@pccastengineperformance7844 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Corey, sorry for the late response - yes, you definitely have a valve sealing issue. Sounds like it's time to pull the heads.
@GHOSTWERX23
@GHOSTWERX23 2 жыл бұрын
@@pccastengineperformance7844 no worries. It was throwing so many codes, none of which were on the #5 cylinder. I don't have a leak down tester, couldn't find one around that I could use and didn't want to spend $100+ for a one time use. I'm currently in the process of breaking it down now. By the time I get it back together it will have new heads, O2 sensors, cam synchronizer and sensor, oil sender switch, maf, iac, pcv, injectors, coil pack, wires, plugs and crank position sensor. So if all that don't fix it, it might have an LS in it in the next few months...... thanks for the response, btw.
@arnoldaltjr.2099
@arnoldaltjr.2099 3 жыл бұрын
But a warm engine can have a lower number because of valve seat expansion???
@kosh9639
@kosh9639 2 жыл бұрын
cylinders need Min. 100 psi to detonate... older Rebuilt V8 have around 250psi. +/- 20psi.. Some Newer (foreign) engines have around 350psi. (need to check your specs)
@jantelow
@jantelow 6 ай бұрын
How to test oil rings
@sparklingsams3155
@sparklingsams3155 2 жыл бұрын
After wet test how long I have to do a dry one again. My engin off the car and test was cold.. dry was 120psi all 6. Wet 150psi all 6. Cold
@pccastengineperformance7844
@pccastengineperformance7844 2 жыл бұрын
After performing the wet test, you really need to start and run the engine until it's warmed up to clear out all the oil. Once that's done you can get a proper "dry" test. Your numbers really don't look to bad for a cold engine (depending on the engine of course!)
@sparklingsams3155
@sparklingsams3155 2 жыл бұрын
@@pccastengineperformance7844 it's out of the car. What if I do it in a week.will that clear the oil ?
@pccastengineperformance7844
@pccastengineperformance7844 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparklingsams3155 It will be a little closer, but that oil will make a nice coat on the cylinder wall until it's washed out or burned out. If you crank it enough times there should be enough scraped off to get close to "normal" dry test readings.
@She1lby
@She1lby 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that thicker oil could help with compression? For example 10w30 instead of 5w30
@pccastengineperformance7844
@pccastengineperformance7844 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to go with the assumption you're referring to running a thicker oil as engine oil and not just using it for the wet compression test. With that in mind the answer to the question is definitely NO. The only compression issue it could possibly help with would be failed piston rings, as it would have no affect on any other cause of compression loss (burned valves, damaged pistons, failed head gaskets, etc.) And if the compression loss were due to piston rings, it is the compression rings that have failed, not the oil ring(s). Even if both the compression and oil rings are failed, cylinder pressure will be pushing past the rings and blowing the oil back into the crankcase, so it would be unable to help with low compression. It used to be very common to run a thicker oil in a worn engine (usually to help with low oil pressure). That's something I definitely do not recommend in a modern engine anyway. The very small oil passages used to get oil to the top end of the engine will not allow the thicker oil to flow up there as fast, and can lead to damage of camshafts, valvetrain components, etc. So probably too much information, but in short, nope.
@She1lby
@She1lby 3 жыл бұрын
@@pccastengineperformance7844 Thanks for the answer, looks like it will not help to piston engines, but may improve it for rotary engines because everything is sealed inside.
@pccastengineperformance7844
@pccastengineperformance7844 3 жыл бұрын
@@She1lby I can see that a little more - those apex seals have to stay wet. I've had several RX7's and RX-8s that sat for a couple days or more in cool weather and wouldn't start until some oil went down the intake to get those seals working again. The thicker oil may stay on those seals a little longer - although I would be curious to see what a really thick oil would do to a rotary's ability to turn higher RPM's!
@She1lby
@She1lby 3 жыл бұрын
@@pccastengineperformance7844 Probably gains will be roughly the same as power loss to a higher friction. I have RX8 and trying to find out optimal oil that will burn well and protect engine better than 5w30 Mazda's oil (9.6cSt at 100C). Not sure if increase up to 11-12.5 cSt at 100C will be enough, also it's hard to tell how changes in flash point from a different oil will affect amount of deposits i.e. do you need to lower this number as much as possible for easier burn?
@johnmwangi6291
@johnmwangi6291 3 жыл бұрын
Hi sir just asking why you pulled the online classes down... some of us we don't have such great information 😭😭 please put them back our intentions is to learn how to fix car the right way.. help us to be better techs.. thank you sir
@johnsmith-dm2tq
@johnsmith-dm2tq Жыл бұрын
Now I am confused, vid one we said " if the comp raises with oil your rings are not the problem. Now we say it is the rings but not a hole in the piston... I will rewatch
@shieldcracker
@shieldcracker 10 ай бұрын
When you add oil rings seal better and compression will raise for good or worn rings ( if the compression stays about the same you need to consider damaged components, rings,valves, gasket etc.) So the magnitude of the increase is what counts, If your rings and cylinder are good the compression increases but it will not be as great as when you have have worn rings and cylinders.
@Hazen_Muhammad
@Hazen_Muhammad Жыл бұрын
I have a civic 2010 and my test was 1. 130 2. 130 3. 130 4. 125 Is this good?? I haven't try the wet compression. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@Adriana-wl3iy
@Adriana-wl3iy 3 жыл бұрын
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@iuhshwth1634
@iuhshwth1634 3 жыл бұрын
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@thekatipthekatip
@thekatipthekatip 3 жыл бұрын
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