As a former, retired, Wildland Firefighter. It makes me want to cry.
@ShannonLH11083 жыл бұрын
love to the families of these men. I honor the crew every year by leading a hike to the memorial site. it is a heartbreaking yet poignant experience each year.
@saucejohnson98622 жыл бұрын
I want to do that hike, I heard there's a stop for each of the 19 men.
@ShannonLH11082 жыл бұрын
@@saucejohnson9862 Yes there is. It is seven miles round trip. I do it in late fall, early winter. The hike down to the fatality site is a short but very steep segment.
@squirleyspitmonkey39263 жыл бұрын
16:22 Lord. I was doing okay until she said that. She's got me crying there.
@SheriffofYouTube3 жыл бұрын
poor families and town all around. great people. wow
@owensweetland3428 ай бұрын
From this information it appears they left their safe zone under a false sense of security. Heartbreaking...
@schlooonginator1227 Жыл бұрын
sad and tragic but I think following investigations with mandates to avoid placing blame were basically theatre to say they did something because the reality was it was human decisions that caused this. No one wants to do the tough job of pointing out the obvious , who decided to go into that box canyon. Even here we have radio Tx by "unknown hotshot", theres no clarity in the earlier comms whether they were in the black and the location when they say they saw the guy earlier on a atv . I don't understand whether they gave that guy accurate informatioin or not and if not that should have been made clear. Its also confusing to undertand that Div Alfa was in fact Granite Mountain superintendant Eric Marsh. From what I have gathered GM had recently been treated as heros for their work at another fire which garnered a lot of attention and respect. That there was not a half hour gap in the radio transmissions but that there was a disagreement regarding tactics with Marsh ordering them to rally at the ranch to save the town of Yarnell, but Jesse Steed knew the route would go against training however, being a marine, followed his superiors orders. Marsh may have already been at the ranch and was to meet with them. Obviously this would place some responsibilty on men who died tragically and theres no one who wants to critique heros post homously, and decisions made at the beginning to not use air assets in the first place were critical to this story.
@kenbrown42053 жыл бұрын
Hard tragic lessons. RIP. A entire crew killed...
@gloriaannopperman27343 жыл бұрын
Why in God's name did they move from the safe area to a low lying area that allowed the fire to roll over them? Why? Lost 19 lives that day dying by fire..one of the worst ways to die Blessings to the 19 and Charles Morton who also died by being trapped and burned over. Tragic...so tragic...Tx fan
@ShannonLH11083 жыл бұрын
If you live in Arizona and can hike the Hotshots Memorial Trail, I highly recommend you do so. I lead a group on the hike at least once a year. Once you're up in what was the black at the time, you can easily see their escape route and safety zone (the ranch). It is a very quick and short walk, but was no match for the flaming front. Standing there, you can imagine Eric saw the fire overtaking the town and couldn't stand by while that happened. It is assumed he calculated that he and the crew could make it down safely and in time to help protect the structures. Unfortunately...they did not.
@gloriaannopperman27343 жыл бұрын
@@ShannonLH1108 Thank you very much. I cannot take advantage of doing the hotshots trail. I am type 1 diabetic and due to my rheumatoid arthritis I could not do the walking. My heart grieved for the Hotshots and the tragic events that killed them. I also followed Charles Morton as well. Thank you so much. Gloria
@mikecarson101 Жыл бұрын
Pride is a Killer ! Horrible call from SUP!
@paulmartinez7163 Жыл бұрын
I was caught in a fire in 1987 The Lost Fire, Old Station, California in The Lassen National Park I have never been able to find footage or dialouge about that event Please do that story I ve never been interviewed
@fredschoeffler8047 Жыл бұрын
Paul. the 1987 Lost Fire on the Lassen NF was when your DIVS lit off the unburned fuel with a Terra Torch in the drainage in the middle of the day resulting in very aggressive fire behavior. You guys were getting cut off and sought advice from the DIVS about what to do and where to go and got no help from your DIVS. He later got back to you claiming he had radio trouble or something. I know you guys were really pissed off. The IMT reassigned him as the Rehab Specialist. The DIVS would later make similar decisions on the June 1990 Dude Fire that resulted in six fatalities. Thank you for bringing up this completely forgotten and ignored wildland fire near-miss. Until now, they buried it!
@mikecarson101 Жыл бұрын
My Father lived in Congress Arizona when this happened! Horrible call from the leader.
@virginiapelly20112 жыл бұрын
Sad to hear.
@Mr1busyboy3 жыл бұрын
I really don’t know why these 19 man died that day, back in 1980 I was on a fire as our crew were force to Deploy as fire roar over us like a train sound, I could hear Other crying and yelling, we managed to survive, so why did these 19 firefighter had to died that day just doesn’t make sense. Prayer for the families that lost there Spouse, Friend, Father, Brother, Uncle,
@thomascochrane31003 жыл бұрын
Good story
@lyc.70072 жыл бұрын
The fire was over 2000° degrees. The shelter can only resist fire at 500° minimum.
@slackjawedyokel1 Жыл бұрын
different deployment site
@theresashore840 Жыл бұрын
The Shelter didn't hold up!! May they all Rest in PEACE ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@FreeTurtleboy10 ай бұрын
Bullcrap
@ariw940510 ай бұрын
Sorry but protecting houses should not even be a thought only saving lives. These poor men did not need to die. This is heartbreaking
@owensweetland3428 ай бұрын
Inexperience?
@joeybravo617211 ай бұрын
The number 1 note I kept on me when I became a wildland firefighter: never leave the black.
@fredschoeffler8047Ай бұрын
Really? Never leave the black? How then do you expect to get any effective suppression work done if you're cowering in the black while the fire progresses?
@mikefournier2601 Жыл бұрын
An how can you change it so no. Fires barker out
@johnsonbra20043 жыл бұрын
Sole survivor?? How
@cbigg812 жыл бұрын
He was in a different area acting as a lookout.
@warplotus9 ай бұрын
one person is always designated as a lookout. they are to keep eyes on the fire line and report anything they see. lookout failed to report a change in fire behavor. in the video he said "I see the smoke turn from white to black, meaning the fire was buring more"... he did not report this. I feel had they known that the fire was buring more they would have never left the black... any change in fire behavior is very important regardless the type of fire you're engaging.
@whogon Жыл бұрын
I'm just glad that reporter could clear up so much by pointing out that firefighters, are indeed, human. For the longest time, we all thought they were just moving Statue 🗽🗿 statues....
@mikecarson101 Жыл бұрын
Pride is the Killer.
@wesr2284 ай бұрын
Well, politicians won't allow prescribed burns, which is literal insanity.