I love WOTR and even though I bought Rogue Trader I did it basically to support Owlcat. You are probably right about WOTR's uniqueness BUT I hope they continue to work on Pathfinder games in the future.

Hard to argue that RT is a better game than WOTR right now. So I won't. That said, if I have to pick one I am going with RT. One of the reasons why? The setting. For every 75 high fantasy CRPGs we might get 1 sci-fi CRPG. And getting one as good as RT? I honestly can't recall the last great sci-fi CRPG.

I hate that crpgs can never be a finished product on day one

Omg! A youtuber who shares my opinion about BG3! I'll subscribe just for your intro in this video!

I am over 300 hours into RT and still cannot stop. Sure, it has bugs, sure, the fights are unbalanced at the moment, but so what, all this will be fixed. It truly is the best game since WOTR, never had such a blast. I would, however, not compare WOTR to RT because they feel like 2 totally different games to me. Both are my best loved games, I would not want to decide which one I love more.

Yeah, my pick was set before watching the video, you pretty much summed it up. Wotr > Rogue trader all day. But to be fair, wotr came after kingmaker, and they improved a lot on it. I would have a much harder time picking between kingmaker and rogue trader. So, here's hoping for a sequel to RT. Thanks for the vid.

I have to turn the music down but then I can't hear you. Please lower the music volume in future videos. Love your work, thanks! On a personal note I have to go with Rogue Trader as my favourite CRPG. As much as I get that WotR is superior in practically every way game wise its the Warhammer 40K setting that wins me over. For me the D&D setting has been done to death and there's just so many to pick from. The setting and lore in RT is fantastic and no other W40K game comes close to portraying it this well in my opinion. I hope it has a long and prosperous future with many DLC's.

Rogue trader is decent for a playthrough, and I may well revisit with DLC, but I am really struggling for motivation to replay it just at the moment. My biggest complaints with RT compared with WoTR: - The combat is broken. From early to midgame onwards, you can reliably kill enemies before they even have the possibility of acting. This included every single fight in chapters 4 and 5 on daring difficulty, and honestly, I don't think unfair would have done much more than delay this moderately. This can be fixed, and they really need to do this ASAP. WoTR combat isn't perfect (both you and the enemy are far too deadly meaning combat is always resolved very quickly, limiting tactical options significantly), but at least the enemy can actually do something. - Neither game is great for immersive environments, with the scope of in game environments being small and somewhat contrived. Neither have large and plausible non dungeon areas like Neketaka in Pillars 2 or Athkatla/Baldur's Gate of the BG series and honestly, this is something that Owlcat really needs to work on improving as for my money, this is how they can most elevate the quality of their games. But RT fails to meet the fairly low bar set by WoTR and does so by some margin. Whilst WoTR is basically split up into dungeon and hub areas, the dungeon environments are at least good. Alushinyrra at least attempted to create a decent sized environment occupied by characters with their own concerns, not just monsters waiting to be killed or vendors waiting to buy/sell. Even amongst the dungeon areas with enemies just waiting to be killed, there were several great examples with large scope and believable and immersive environments. RTs environments are all very small and gamey, without a single instance of an environment designed primarily for immersion first and gameplay functionality second. There is no quick fix here or honestly, fix at all. Its just something I hope they do with future games. - Build variety is much more limited. I did like having the steady pace of level ups compared to the highly uneven mythic progression of in particular, but whilst character building is far from braindead, the variety of builds is far more limited. The variety of spellcasting is also much smaller, though non spellcasters do get significantly more options in combat compared to the average warrior on Pathfinder.

Bro, love your videos, but cmon the sound mixing makes it really hard to hear you!

I've been contemplating picking up Wrath of the Righteous but I've heard its waaayyy harder than Rogue Trader so I'm a lil hesitant but if I do end up picking it up could I go straight into Wrath of the Righteous or do i need to play Kingmaker first to understand the plot/story and lore/world?

Hey man great video as always! Just a question, what was the soundtrack you were using in the story section cause I love it!

great video as usual :)

WOTR je stvarno van svih kategorija. Super kanal za nas stare gamere.

Good video, but music is too loud, realy, it is irritates if too be honest. About theme: it is good too see comparison with rogue trader, because i am about to finish the game ans thinking what is else 😅

Oh I love both games :D

I think that with time RT will end up being a great game, compared to WoTR they didn't have to redo the entire system as in, the stats that the characters have since in TT Pathfinder is far clearer and complex. I remember seeing the rumours and that post where people share the things that RT had to cut before release and yeah, I know understand why some chapters were shorter than others.

Can you maybe do a new playthrough of the WOTR. Never played it and would love to get into it with some help :)

I beat both of these games. For me wotr is 10/10 best crpg since bg2, on the other hand rogue trader is solid 8/10.

Werglia, what's the Outro Song in the Members and Patrons section?

LOUD MUSIC, man!

I am 40 hours into Rogue Trader and my only complaint is the large number of boring weak enemies you need to grind through. Id rather fight a smaller number of more challenging enemies then a army of dumbass cultists. Lol

Theres only one game that may succeed to take the throne from wotr and thats the 3rd pathfinder game when it comes.

music is too loud man cant hear anything what you're saying!

Calling BG3 a social dating simulator is hilariously accurate. I hate how they force every character to want to slob on you. It's like they've never heard of making a good friend with someone without wanting to sleep with them.

Baldurs Gate WINS. Rogue Trader is great about the LORE. The problem - very hard new player income. So much stuff to blow the brain. The most stupid thing in Path and Rogue - Loading and loading ... all those small location loading are insanly stupid in 2024. Path made me crazy angry with all those stupid "some goblin attack you" with loadings every 1cm on global map. P.S - Thanks alot for your Rogue Builds. Made it much faster to understands basics.

worth!!!

In my opinion both WOTR and Kingmaker are on other level compared to RT. Honestly, I found RT pretty underwhelming in all aspects and have it MUCH lower rated than most people.

Wotr always because of fantasy world, this is game which i will play for years, Rogue Trader probably one time.

I might buy Roque Trader IF it ever cost under 30 dolars. I care the most about story and setting and I hate both in Sci-fi games except "Knights of the old Republic." Don't care about the RT universe. If you enjoy it great have fun, for me I won't spend a lot of money on something I don't care that much about. I'll stick to BG3

Owlcat should have hired you to playtest Rogue Trader. With a bit of streamlining it could have been 10x better of a game. As it stands, it was good but not great.

They did such amazing job with the real time combat what in the world they were thinking when they made a turn base game its so annoying