what a $1 trillion propaganda project looks like | THE LINE 2024 UPDATE
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Күн бұрынLet's unpack the colossal world of Neom's groundbreaking project, "THE LINE," an arguably $1 trillion propaganda project. 💰🏗️ Join us for the highly-anticipated 2024 update, where we dissect the magnitude of this unprecedented investment, exploring the grandeur of THE LINE and the intricate tactics deployed in its propagandistic narrative. Whether you're a skeptic or enthusiast, this update offers a compelling look into the convergence of astronomical budgets and propaganda prowess. #TheLINE #Neom #cityofthefuture
⏲ Timestamps ⏲
0:00 - Introduction to The Line
0:50 - The Design Intent of The Line
2:09 - The Positive Aspects of The Line
2:43 - The Challenges and Design Problems of The Line
4:49 - Environmental Impact of Building The Line and Greenwashing Concerns
7:45 - The Displacement of Al Huwaitat Tribe and Other Social Concerns
9:22 - Why is Saudi Arabia Building The Line?
10:12 - Saudi Arabia Has a Track Record of Abandoned Megacity Projects
11:00 - The Line Has Significant Dystopian Implications
12:24 - The Marketing of The Line is Propaganda
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@UnravelingArchitecture 4 ай бұрын
MAJOR UPDATE: The Line has been reportedly been dramatically reduced by 98.57% from being 105 miles long to just 1.5 miles long... Oh boyy!!! QOTD: do you think my take on The Line is wrong? Do you think it will succeed? 👀
@assefagelila4825 4 ай бұрын
actually I don't think so
@remedypath5941 4 ай бұрын
thank you for covering this subject - so many things at odds with the natural environment when building these "mega projects". Nothing but ego, wrapped in ignorance. Even if a project like this is completed you can't even begin to count all the unforeseen problems that arise in its wake.
@nesreenamerah9411 4 ай бұрын
Firstly, I am from Saudi Arabia and I do not speak English fluently, but I will try to clarify some points First, the NEOM project will be in the Tabuk region, which is an area in the north near Jordan, Syria, Palestine, and Turkey. It is a city I visited before, and it is very cold and snows in the winter and in the summer, a city with a wonderful atmosphere. Secondly, Saudi Arabia has been a tourist country since ancient times, and it is in advanced development with every king and prince, and naturally, there are some who mock my country. Thirdly, the NEOM project will successfully employ the most skilled workers on it, just as King Abdullah City and the King Fahd Project did. There are projects that were not implemented and were merely statements, as in America, China and France. We care about animals and birds so much, it is impossible not to consider this point. In addition, you did not find many animals in that area due to the difficulty of birds moving there, according to the NEOM project. You can see projects, permanent development and prosperity, and visit them for exploration, and not just read and information that may be wrong or insufficient.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 3 ай бұрын
Soviet microdistrict vs USA suburbia . public transport vs car
@ruZZiansGoHome 2 ай бұрын
wrong? stupidity!
@Khorvalar 2 ай бұрын
If it's ever finished I think the long-term maintenance costs will be insane.
@dyawr 2 ай бұрын
Yeah. I'm also worried for the conditions of the 'lower-job' workers, who will have to maintain this entire thing 24/7. They'll be getting accommodation in the worst parts of the building structure for sure - prob at more ground levels, rarely leaving their limited area to enjoy other parts, not seeing natural light for months, being overworked & underpaid, etc. While the foreigners & more 'upper class' ppl that Saudi wants to attract, will be somewhere at a top level ‐ with the plant microsystems & the holograms, natural light, luxury experiences, etc. It's something that reminds me of dystopian Sci-Fi movies. Hard for me to imagine it any other way realistically, given that there are already so many problems with foreign workers in the Gulf countries.
@barnold23 Ай бұрын
@@dyawryou’ve just given me an idea for a great movie. Thank you!
@martin4819 Ай бұрын
Yea totally agree, the amount of elevators and escalators alone that would need to maintained would be in the thousands! Imagine too, if this design ends up letting in and trapping sand and dust that ends up grinding away moving parts cutting their lifespan in half. Everything is interconnected in a line, if anything fails, or if things cant be maintained properly, it will have a ripple effect throughout The Line. A line also provides little flexibility to fix and maintain things, particularly so for thing’s like the rail system. This will end up being a very expensive place to live, where people would probably have to spend millions on purchasing a condo and pay outrageous HOA fees monthly and for what, to live inside essentially a shopping mall with endless views of sand and nothing to do outside The Line.
@dyawr Ай бұрын
@@barnold23 Lol
@dyawr Ай бұрын
@@barnold23 But to be fair, I watched another vid since I made this comment, which said that workers will indeed be at lower levels, but will have equal access to natural light. Interesting that they emphasized this, but good that they have it in mind.👍
@kevslilkorner4946 3 ай бұрын
If the Line doesn't succeed, we can always give it to the Night's Watch to defend us from the Night King and his White Walkers
@TUBESPECIFIC1 3 ай бұрын
Wish we still had GOT for it's disappointing how they ended it with season 6 where I guess the producers lost interest and it was complicated and hard. The Line looks far more complex. Wonder how the billionaires will do hosting this project? They'll fail again for they can't really run businesses nor direct countries on foreign and domestic policies. Look at how they're doing America and many other countries in the 2020's. Their global Great Reset will fail the citizens!
@iotolaofrocknrolla2795 2 ай бұрын
Ter her … keep your day job.
@daemoncluster Ай бұрын
"Hold Door!" - Hordor
@MrRono19 Ай бұрын
But he would then be holding the East... the Middle East.
@TheDavidlloydjones Ай бұрын
Wot abaht the Globbolinks?
@tryscience 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully no bone saws will be reserved for me for saying this, but... of course this will not succeed as described. Consider the following 1. Where will the sewage and garbage be processed for 9 million people and businesses? 2. High speed rail - how many stops will it make on the 100 mile route? if it's a 5 minute walk to the nearest train station, that suggests a stop every half mile, two hundred stops with acceleration, deceleration, stop, unload and load, for each one. This dramatically slows the average speed of the rail line, in addition to nausea-inducing acceleration and deceleration, and consuming vast amounts of energy, as well as wear and tear on the trains. 3. How will food and supplies be transported for these 9 million people? 4. What happens if there is a power failure? Suffocation? 5. How will toxic smoke from fires be managed along the great length of this structure? Until these questions are reasonably answered, this project is doomed.
@dr.firefetus5119 2 ай бұрын
dark but accurate reference
@ahadkmk Ай бұрын
It looks like it will be a robotic City rather than human City everyone will be working like a robot and there will be very less space to walk around. People would feel like a restrained life in a narrow strip
@demongo2007 Ай бұрын
Oh you’re just a hater. /s
@lizd2943 Ай бұрын
Maybe they'll borrow the poop trucks from the Burj Khalifa.
@tryscience Ай бұрын
@@demongo2007 I hate phony projects that can't be built, because I'm not a Chump. I like real projects that inspire people with success, instead of the demoralize them with failure.
@waynebollman 4 ай бұрын
This project involves pretty much everything humans should NOT be doing.
@TUBESPECIFIC1 3 ай бұрын
Yea, science fiction shouldn't be done in the real world. However, I'd have a diesel engine in that cybertruck.
@DavidLLambertmobile Ай бұрын
How do have a 🌍 CoVid 19 pandemic then say hey let's spend $1T 💰💰💰 on some wierd desert city?
@johnnylego807 2 ай бұрын
It’s basically a giant “Smart City” Prison. Once the person is in they can not get out!! Very frightening actually
@EzraMerr 3 күн бұрын
Isn't rhe whole of UK just a "sweet prison" same as most states in USA
@DrRestezi 4 ай бұрын
Nice to see a real person (as opposed to some disembodied AI narrator) pointing out the real world flaws of this completely bonkers fever dream. Keep up the great work! Subsrcribed.
@pavel5939 2 ай бұрын
A real entitled kid with her barbie doll in the drawer? Talking about things she has absolutely no clue about? Wow… gen-Z at its highest lows. Great. 😂
@user-xp5id1kh4r 2 ай бұрын
@@pavel5939 Well at least she didn't screw the economy or environment as a boomer or xer.
@Markoss007 Ай бұрын
@@user-xp5id1kh4r She calculated the emission of 20 years project into a 1 year. Maybe is a dystopian, unrealistic dream. But at least they think about the future. Our Western politicians just say we do not have money. But we are the countries that buy oil and gas from them. Or even products from China, where they can build nuclear plants and highways like nothing. Why can Dubai build a mega city and Europe have cities with old routes and buildings? She says propaganda, but we get only demotivation. Bad news every day, inflation, moral collapse, cancel culture... We can't say what is possible, we are lazy people. Without Elon Musk's dreams of Mars City, we have nothing. And even Elon Musk is for lot of people claun. But this claun did something, not like them.
@karlschleifenbaum5793 4 ай бұрын
You could apply a hiss filter to the mic signal to cut the hissing noise out in post-processing. APart from that, I'd like to see a small shard of this fully built. I'm pretty sure that they won't finish the whole project.
@UnravelingArchitecture 3 ай бұрын
awh sorry about that hissing throughout! my audio file corrupted but will do better next time!
@jeffbaker1890 2 ай бұрын
The mic is terrible
@williamwolf2844 Ай бұрын
The sound seems good to me.
@Deontjie 24 күн бұрын
Please don't. Imperfect voices are far better than those stupid perfect AI voices.
@jumanahmoh 4 ай бұрын
Im an architecture student in Saudi Arabia and i cant still believe that this project is real , even tho they really started neom projects!
@starcapture3040 4 ай бұрын
it will be such big disaster
@jumanahmoh 4 ай бұрын
@@starcapture3040 like seriously i think that too , but lets just not judge a book by its cover and wait…
@jakenelson1658 4 ай бұрын
Is architecture school really hard in Saudi Arabia?
@jumanahmoh 4 ай бұрын
@@jakenelson1658well i guess its hard everywhere 😂😂
@JosephHHHo 3 ай бұрын
@@jakenelson1658 You just have to be able to draw a line
@willsteuer1621 3 ай бұрын
They are building a 170 Km long Swedish Rocket Stove. When the first apartment in The Line catches fire, the whole line will turn into a Fire Death Trap from which there will be no escape.
@EzraMerr 3 күн бұрын
Aerogel blanket insulation doesn't catch on fire buddy 😂, how can it spread?
@alexandershelly-fsu7361 4 ай бұрын
This is mainly a project for shipping. The trains are meant to be fast for quick cargo transport from one end of the country to the other. I only realized that while watching this video.
@UnravelingArchitecture 3 ай бұрын
great insight
@TUBESPECIFIC1 3 ай бұрын
No it's not about logistics though it involves many logistics. It's about a new world order global center of the world.
@r3dp1ll 3 ай бұрын
@@TUBESPECIFIC1 I also see it that way. Part of the WEF grand "vision" for 2030. The have everything and the have nothing.
@NR-fd9wv Ай бұрын
@@TUBESPECIFIC1 in other words: the fantasy of a megalomaniac
@TUBESPECIFIC1 Ай бұрын
@@NR-fd9wv I wish that were fictional, but what I said about NEOM is the one. Ok, you go get a job by working for it. Yea, the controlligarchs are megaomaniacs.
@solosailorsv8065 Ай бұрын
The Desert will swallow it up with a few sand storms Better to build Chip FABs in all that silicon (sand)
@DFisher5555 18 күн бұрын
Gotta say highly impressed I have listen to a lot of talk on this subject but the pace in which you talked about it kept it very interesting. I will be watching more videos! Keep up the good work!
@aleks5405 4 ай бұрын
Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that doesn't self report themselves as a democracy. (Yes even North Kore, China and Russia call themselves democratic) Pointing out that the line is a bit despotic in nature doesn't bother them.
@izarsopar2581 3 ай бұрын
An enlightened monarchy is potentialy the best regime regarding to quality of life. Looking back to my country, thr biggest developement and of the highest quality was made by the Austro-Hungarian monarchy, whereas the type of work that is done today is just by greedy investors trying to sell you low quality work for a high end price
@tryscience 3 ай бұрын
@@izarsopar2581and the monarchy isn't enlightened, just vote in a new one.... oops, nevermind
@NR-fd9wv Ай бұрын
@@izarsopar2581 enlightened monarchy? they are quite the opposite
@izarsopar2581 Ай бұрын
@@NR-fd9wv I was refering to the likes of the AU monarchy, where long term benefits were put in front of the short term gain. Not in any way was I thinking about S. Arabia...
@robertkerby2581 2 ай бұрын
I loved your careful unpacking, and subsequently eloquent analysis! Well done!
@JeaNewSon 3 ай бұрын
We need critics, people who localize and study the subject so that we have ideas about the subject.
@poy2xgelo0302 3 ай бұрын
the line is like a very big shopping mall with apartment inside. who would want to live in a shopping mall? a good 1 hour strolling/sight seeing inside a mall is best i can do. but to live there.. what the fudge are they thinking?? i mean i get it if they will build something like this in a big space ship intergalactic travel or in planet mars. but in planet earth? why??
@martijn8554 3 ай бұрын
That part doesn't seem too weird to me. We don't really have malls here in the Netherlands in the way America does. Instead, new commercial areas are built with the stores on the ground floors and apartments above them. That way all of the city is in use 24 hours a day. You get large stores mixed in with smaller stores and bars and restaurants, gyms, GPs, offices, etc. In the end this project fails because putting everything in a line just isn't efficient. It's the elevator problem, but on its side. Give the line some spokes out the side every now and then would make it much more feasible.
@darlynegoo4251 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. This is a space ship design. Why do on Earth? Else some said do a circle. Honestly, the cutting off nature migration (a line) is a real problem. How do wildlife get from one side to the other.
@conhopper418 3 ай бұрын
Kinda like a living on a cruise ship. Some people love that.
@Captain_MonsterFart Ай бұрын
@@martijn8554 Malls are very depressing environments.
@martijn8554 Ай бұрын
@@Captain_MonsterFart American style malls are indeed very depressing. They don't have to be that way though.
@bioLarzen Ай бұрын
One aspect i haven't yet seen discussed about this project: does the project documantation offer anything about how the city would be dealing with the deceased?
@briandering4182 Ай бұрын
Soilent Green
@NR-fd9wv Ай бұрын
@@briandering4182 self-sustainable and no place to grow enough food, so i guess you're right
@johnnylego807 2 ай бұрын
Such and excellent video!! Please do a further “deep dive” on the “technology” they are wanting too implement. All around an EXCELLENT video
@UnravelingArchitecture Ай бұрын
thank you!
@ytsm Ай бұрын
And we wonder why there's so much suspicion around the WEF's "15 Min City"; the vast criticisms of NEOM can be just as easily aimed at them.
@michaelrexrode3759 Ай бұрын
As of April 2024 it's already being drastically scaled back. Basically building an airport before airplanes have been invented.
@Eduardoalexanderart 4 ай бұрын
I’m actually looking forward for this project to be done
@freddymercury2259 2 ай бұрын
Why?
@TomZidel 2 ай бұрын
I hope they lock you in it
@luddite333 Ай бұрын
projected completion date - when hell freezes over lol
@nicholashylton6857 2 ай бұрын
The NEOM project has just been downscaled by a teeny tiny bit... By only 98.6% actually. The new city will be *2.4 km in length.*
@olil4842 2 ай бұрын
Yeah looks like they might have realised that $1 trillion on a unique and untested infrastructure based megaproject might have been a bit of a stretch. That 2.4kms still won't get finished I bet...
@hifijohn 2 ай бұрын
it will downscaled to just a few hundred feet.
@antlee1579 3 ай бұрын
That laugh you have when describing this is fascinating and understandable on a serious scary subject. No matter how much money they try to show, they have , and there will always be investors forced, tricked , and sold into idealism . The name "The Line" is the first clue. In almost every way"line" can be defined is not anywhere most people would call home. Absolutely not from someone who you can't have a debate with. 💯❤️subscribed
@martinsmods4527 Ай бұрын
What I find interesting is the huge amount of resources that are required to build this monstrosity. Just imagine a 500 meter high and 158 kilometres long glass wall. Multiplied by 2, in order to cover both sides. Where in the world will all of this glass, that needs a special treatment to act as an heat shield, come from? How long is its lifespan? After all the sunlight is known for its ability to wear out any type of protection. Meaning that these glass panels will need replacement. How will this be achieved? Considering the weight of just one panel, a quit difficult task. Especially due to the height of this project. I could go on for ever! It is great to be innovative, but being so and at the same time using resources in a manner that doesn’t just waste them, can be an impossible challenge.
@brescianiproyectos 3 ай бұрын
Mientras observaba el video y escuchaba las preocupantes deficiencias del proyecto en términos de sostenibilidad a lo largo de su desarrollo y ocupación, me di cuenta de que estamos evaluándolo desde la perspectiva de nuestra realidad actual. Lo estamos analizando a la luz del mundo tal como lo conocemos y vivimos en el presente. Sin embargo, ¿cómo se comportaría este proyecto en caso de una catástrofe nuclear a escala mundial? ¿Cuál sería su impacto y relevancia en un mundo postapocalíptico, un escenario que, esperemos, nunca llegue a ocurrir, si Dios lo permite? While watching the video and hearing about the project's unsustainable aspects throughout its development and occupancy, it occurred to me that we are currently analyzing it through the lens of our present reality. We are examining it in the context of the world as we know and live in today. However, how would this project fare in the event of a global nuclear catastrophe? What would be its impact and significance in a post-apocalyptic world, a scenario that, hopefully, will never come to pass, if it is God's will?
@stuartmalin661 4 ай бұрын
Humans need to walk and climb to remain healthy. Life in the The Line will lead to dysfunction and disease.
@gregstevens2917 Ай бұрын
Great summary...couldn't agree more!
@HarveyCarrollJr 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your analysis of this project n noting past abandoned projects… I know a Modular developer trying to participate on this. Currently Modular can be stacked 10 floors without X bracing n 25 with…. So estimating a max of 200- 250 feet height. Perhaps if heavy steel platforms were installed that encapsulates modular stacks that could increase to the 500 meter height, but like you I think it’s unrealistic… Simple monolithic slabs and/or footer foundation sections with stack Modular above could work, but only about 25 stories…
@michaelmiller6878 2 ай бұрын
You're right on track! Having some experience in development, seeing claims they are 20% complete, I immediately knew this was going to be a colossal bust. Even if they complete the project, there can't be enough rich people in the world to occupy all of these high end resorts. This is saying nothing of a city operating within a linear set of walls. This will make the Dubai's World Island Resort look like child's play in its grand failure.
@eshwarc4288 4 ай бұрын
actually I go with you , In fact what you said was right basically this project "LINE" is indeed limiting access to environment what I think is that "AN ARCHITECT SHOULD BE THINKING OF CONNECTING MORE WITH NATURE RATHER THAN MAKING IT MORE FUTURISTIC AND COMPLICATED " . IT WILL SUCCEED IN THE DESIGN BUT NOT IN REALITY
@UnravelingArchitecture 4 ай бұрын
Like I mentioned in the video, there are good instincts in terms of how to design sustainably. But logistically there should be so many more questions answered by now. I agree that nowadays there has been a surge of emphasizing the connection between humans and nature, rather than dividing the two. So I guess we'll see how it all plays out
@dylshkibab 2 ай бұрын
There is no nature there... it's an arid stretch of sand.
@PatriciaAppelquist 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Have you seen the plans for the city by Flannery Associates that bought up farm land around near Travis AFB to make their own community? Followup question, with so many bankrupt abandoned cities why don't the rich just rejuvenate those places (rough and ready,CA or any other abandoned properties around the world) ?
@dimamurasaki 3 ай бұрын
actually, it is easily salvageable; they can scale it in whole or partially to its original design. which was a surface-level no car ,walkable city
@LonClark Ай бұрын
Wow, that is the biggest electrical box I've ever seen in a residence. Impressive!
@paulgifis1908 3 ай бұрын
This will be like living full time in a shopping mall. After a few hours this will get depressing
@hi9580 2 ай бұрын
Saudi arabia is in mall anyways, 50°C, zero humidity with occasional sandstorms is not weather you want to be outside for.
@zmasterx6825 4 ай бұрын
this thumbnail, title and intro should make a viral video lets hope! one critique is that the video seems a bit gloomy especially around the postive aspects part. id love to see more critical but positive vibe takes on other controversial architecture
@UnravelingArchitecture 4 ай бұрын
no thank you for the feedback!! I was trying a new editing style and was looking for dramatic music - I did not intend for the video to feel and seem gloomy all the way through - esp during the positive aspects part. will do better in the future! thanks
@scipioafricanus5871 2 ай бұрын
@@UnravelingArchitecture YOu made it gloomy because you're describing a giant dystopia. Don't listen to these apologists for the Line.
@youdontneedtoknow1154 Ай бұрын
@@UnravelingArchitecture Nice job, but you need to think about your audio for the whole video. The music was too loud at times and many times you sounded way too close to your mic. Try no to over do it. You have a nice mic, you don't need it so close to your mouth for it to pick up your voice. Your overall message is being overshadowed by the audio itself.
@livingandhealingwithmcs 3 ай бұрын
I'm with you 100%... I think it is as sustainable as electro cars, the production and the out come will be detremental to our planet. + the horror of the created society at a time where social score is beeing implemented... Thank God I'm a namibian 🙏 The Gods must be crazy 😉
@hufemeve 3 ай бұрын
too soon to predict that. I doubt that a project of such gigantic scale will be built in one go, but rather in phases where the first ones will be "tested" out for all the "unforeseen issues & untested applications" that have been highlighted by many experts, before continuing it. Ultimately, it's the "test of time" that will determine the success or failure of the project.
@user-lb8ej9nh6i 18 күн бұрын
Honestly, I am not sure if The Line is possible, in fact many of NEOM's projects are outright dystopian but the world needs it to work. It might just give people hope that we could divert ourselves from oil-based economies. Today's cities and urban centers are so unsustainable and living the way we are now, there is no way we will survive very long. Just look at the coffin houses in Hong Kong for goodness sake! The population is suppose to reach 10 billion by 2050, and where will all these people live, how could we even find rescources to feed them. Even uprooting entire forests won't save us for long, using technology and finding new ways of urbanization might be the only thing to save our planet! I am very skeptical about it working, but there are too many bets on it to fail, we just need to keep investing and risking our money because we are playing with our future. Anyway, sorry for the long paragraph😅
@wriptag3 Ай бұрын
The "advantage" of the line over other cities is the ability to separate the rich from the poor. It will be a tourist place with no beggars, no thieves, no sad looking children, no graffiti, no signs of poverty. You cannot even accidentally end up in the poor section of town. One end of the line will be where tourists and rich people enter and live. The other end will be where the workers and their families live ie the poor people. This will work because it gives tourists what they want, guilt free vacations. When this succeeds more places will use this approach, separation of poor people in an effective way. This is designed to lock in class distinctions permanently. It's like that terrible movie about the train, without the cannibalism.
@davidlawson7786 Ай бұрын
Crazy video, I highly doubt this project will come to fruition. Btw, my gosh you’re adorable (:
@lluhu 3 ай бұрын
The Line is the best way to communicate to any extraterrestrial life that we are ready to be invaded.
@lfroncek 2 ай бұрын
If things get rowdy, just call Judge Dredd.
@ZeginMakesMusic 2 ай бұрын
In the symphony of atmospheric constituents, carbon dioxide orchestrates a pivotal role, comprising a mere 0.02% of the atmospheric ensemble. This seemingly fractional component, however, assumes paramount significance in the botanical realm, where it serves as the quintessential sustenance for the verdant tapestry of plant life. The metabolic choreography of photosynthesis, a ballet of light and biochemical alchemy within plant chloroplasts, is reliant upon the atmospheric presence of carbon dioxide. As the principal substrate, carbon dioxide undergoes a sublime metamorphosis, transmuting photons into chemical energy and yielding life-giving oxygen as a lyrical exhalation. This grand performance not only propels vegetal growth but also underpins the flourishing biospheric panorama, nurturing the intricate interplay of ecosystems. In short, if we fall below .02% CO2, plants will stop growing. Food for thought, The sustainability of humans is at risk.
@AliAhmed-fq5lj Ай бұрын
According to the latest updates, the project has been significantly scaled back to 98%, as the necessary investments are not forthcoming in the near future.
@UnravelingArchitecture Ай бұрын
crazy crazy!! The headlines were harsh when the announcement came about
@AliAhmed-fq5lj Ай бұрын
@@UnravelingArchitecture It's all over the news; search KZfaq. Investments aren't coming anytime soon, and the technologies MBS is dreaming of don't exist yet. It sounds more like science fiction. He might not even be around by the time these technologies finally exist.
@AliAhmed-fq5lj Ай бұрын
@@UnravelingArchitecture It's all over the news; search KZfaq. Investments aren't coming anytime soon, and the technologies MBS is dreaming of don't exist yet. It sounds more like science fiction. He might not even be around by the time these technologies finally exist.
@AliAhmed-fq5lj Ай бұрын
@@UnravelingArchitecture It's all over the news; search KZfaq. Investments aren't coming anytime soon, and the technologies they're dreaming of don't exist yet. It sounds more like science fiction. Anyone of us might not even be around by the time these technologies finally exist.
@tsifotis 4 ай бұрын
I agree it will never be completed for many reason. With or without sustainable energy makes no difference. Besides that , 9.000.000 people ? It will be impossible just to put 1.000.000 - 1.500.000 people there.
@chelleyroberts Ай бұрын
What will they doin the case of a major disaster? Such as a fire or explosion. What steps are to be put into place to evacuate?
@freddymercury2259 2 ай бұрын
I find it hard to believe that with the expertise and calibre of people who planned and are building this, they somehow overlooked basic issues like that you mention in this video. Even I thought The Line sounded like a bad idea, for example just the social aspect of living in a place like that is not appealing at all, let alone all the other issues, but I assumed they would have already thought of all that. How can they have overlooked all this with so much cost at stake?
@peterjol 2 ай бұрын
I wish they were building Jaque Fresco's (venus Project) circular city design. The line makes no sense at all ..his circular city ideas do make sense.
@Nachtschicht1 Ай бұрын
Looking at google maps, you can see that they have already started to flatten(?) terrain at a length of 62km. I think it's a bad idea to start building at such a length at once. The only way that I see for at least a slight chance of success would be to buld it, well, linear. Starting at one site and build a segment and when this is functional and working, buld the next segment and so on. This offers the chance to learn from the first attempts and change faulty or bad design at the next. And if it turns out that it doesn't work as intended, you can just stop, without having spent tons of money for something that never goes operational. From my understanding, the advantage of a city is the fact to have all things, buisnesses and so on concentrated in a small area that is reachable for every resident. The line is pretty much the opposite of that, stacking up infrastructure up to 500m which makes transportation much more expensive and then build the same over and over again in a straight line...
@NR-fd9wv Ай бұрын
at least they can complete one megaproject: the worlds largest ditch
@markvwood2007 3 ай бұрын
I wonder how they will populate it. Why would people want to live there? Are they going to be forced to live there? It's the old practice of creating a solution without saying what problem is being solved.
@Nebukadnezart 3 ай бұрын
Perhaps you could take note of Pr Jacques Fresco's Venus Project and, through your audience, give it a new lease of life worldwide, which is far more ambitious in every respect. and thank you very much for this video !
@Captain_MonsterFart Ай бұрын
Oh yeah that Venus Project stuff was exactly as ridiculous as this. People who don't live near nature are SO weird. They genuinely don't understand how badly we all need it.
@artlewellan2294 Ай бұрын
Peter Calthorpe, William Fulton's "Regional" city scope led the way Ernest Callenbach led.
@emmanuelnarokobi1772 3 ай бұрын
You have some good arguments but overall I still believe it will work. What's getting me thinking however is that you have more than one city being planned and being developed here. As I understand it, this whole region will also operate under more Western laws and regulations. What I'm curious about socially is how do you manage one country with two legal and social systems? You have compounds or gated communities in the middle east where you can get a glimpse of this, but I'm curious what the implications are when you do it on a massive scale? How will the these different regions interact with each other? Are they assumed they will socially merge in the future? What if the differences between the societies and culture deepen?
@isaiah6714 4 ай бұрын
It's honestly dystopian of how they designed the line, like its carbon emissions just to build it is insane and there is the possibility that their system will create a civil division as those closer to the top could have a higher quality of life compared to those on the lower levels
@UnravelingArchitecture 4 ай бұрын
excellent point! I should've highlighted that in the video but you're exactly right - who does get to live at the top. I mentioned this in a previous comment but look up the movie snowpiercer. it's the same kind of concept just on a train... so those living at the lower levels might be experiencing a very different (dystopian?) reality of living in the line...
@fragout9575 2 ай бұрын
They built "The World" and saw it fail and said, "Hold my tea!" This is a ridiculous vanity project if I ever saw!!
@greggreg2263 2 ай бұрын
What are the biggest hurdles is who the hell wants to live in the desert? It’s too hot. There’s no trees 🌳
@Captain_MonsterFart Ай бұрын
Doesn't matter since it looks like you won't be able to get out of the place.
@nmghmarquis2583 Ай бұрын
hmmm4_4 the layout sounds like an escape mission with meany trials and tribulations Goood show kinda nice
@maryhildreth754 4 ай бұрын
Its a cool idea but is right now really the best time to be building an extreme mega structure in the Middle East?
@waynebollman 4 ай бұрын
giga
@emmanuelnarokobi1772 3 ай бұрын
It is for an oil country, they have to invest in infrastrcture now while they have Trillions in oil money so they have an economy beyond oil when it runs out. So now is the best time to invest. (Whether it's the right investment, I'm not qualified to judge).
@devrim-oguz 3 ай бұрын
@@emmanuelnarokobi1772 they better invest in people instead of this
@floridacoder Ай бұрын
Hub and spoke rings would be better. Which airport is better? DFW or Tampa? That's a good analogy. Everyone hates DFW because it is spread out and you walk a mile to get where you need to go, but everyone loves Tampa International because of the hub and spoke design and ease of getting from point a to b.
@thinkdifferent01 18 күн бұрын
I hope they will build this thing because of two reasons... On the one hand, if they will spend all their money for this thing, they can't spend it for worse things like war, weapons or AIs. And on the other hand, we will have a very nice lost place in the future, where we can make great youtube videos....
@cyphi474 Ай бұрын
Oh. I certainly do not want live there. It looks like living in hell.
@dipladonic 2 ай бұрын
Fools and their money are easily parted.
@barnesj0007 Ай бұрын
Heat stroke is no joke!
@upstateshenanigans430 Ай бұрын
It's an insane task. I would never want to live in something like that, I'm more of an all American suburban type 😂 I might stay in a hotel their. I'm happy my money or tax contribution isn't involved but I do hope it succeeds, it's super interesting but in my opinion, nobody alive today will be around to see the completion of "The Line". Maybe it's because I'm just used to seeing government projects go way over budget and timelines.
@michaelginever732 Ай бұрын
So much about it seems crazy. I'm with those who think it will be a failure. The reflective facade....why? Why not wider and more under ground? Start making clean (zero CO2 emission) concrete and steel. Then make it bit at a time in blobs not a straight line. Such a waste of money and CO2 budget.
@admirald2680 Ай бұрын
Good one, Perri 👍
@UnravelingArchitecture Ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@sebastiangarcia7170 4 ай бұрын
love your plants
@UnravelingArchitecture 4 ай бұрын
thank you! haha
@johnmcnulty4425 7 күн бұрын
I think it's strange that I have yet to see how the Noem city will link to the outside world. Where will the airport go and external highways, etc.?
@johnmcnulty4425 7 күн бұрын
Neom, sorry.
@themagnumtodd Ай бұрын
Lol they invited an American professor, you might as well have gotten my cat’s “educated” opinion.
@AB-qk5pb 2 ай бұрын
We should always encourage amd support great infrastructure even if it looks unrealistic it shows the growing mentality of humanity
@UnravelingArchitecture 2 ай бұрын
But the question with the line is - is it actually great infrastructure?
@shannonmariehauck 2 ай бұрын
If they build at least some of it, movie producers can use it for a dystopian movie set.
@Boomereng-cb34 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for this honest and frank assessment. The ridiculous vanity projects coming out of the Arab states are such a horrible waste of resources all in the mismanaged pursuit to move away from an oil extraction economy. I have to problem with the goal of minimizing their dependence on oil but each project is a vain glorious ego stroking horror that is aimed only at the ultra wealthy. They would do nothing to help develop a real economy that would serve the citizens of these countries, but would only be playgrounds for the wealthy Arabs. How long will these places last without food or water or workers to provide maintenance or supplies? They all look like movie concept art. Are they consulting with real architects and engineers? Are the architects and engineers just taking as much money as they can no while it lasts?
@mojorocketman 2 ай бұрын
The Line is a carless city created by the Crown Prince who owns dozens of luxury and supercars plated in gold. The good Prince showing his people the way by example... 🙄
@davidbarlow5148 2 ай бұрын
Someone hasn't done their sums. Its just pure simple maths. Walls 500m tall x 200m wide x 1m depth = 100,000 cubic metres. Length 170km or 170,000m is 170,000 x 100,000= 17,000,000,000sqm or 17bn cubic metres. At a cost of $1tn dollars $1,000,000,000,000/17,000,000,000= $58 cubic metre. That's without carbon neutral power stations, a train that will take to from end to end in 20 minutes, an airport or external sanitation and water facilities. Population density for 9m people 6x greater than the most populously dense city in the world, Manilla causing crowding. $58 a cubic metre?? I don't think this is going to happen.
@getinthespace7715 2 ай бұрын
The cost of this thing would be insane. Multiple trillions. This seems like a "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" situation. Someone must have gotten rid of all the people who pushed back on him.
@Luke-tg9jy 2 ай бұрын
By the time this is actually complete (if at all), the first built parts will be like living in the ghetto with how much more technology will advance by then.
@mexiko4868 2 ай бұрын
Manhattan is a linear city. It works quite well. Manhattan is like 10 x 200m lines in a row. Why not let them try?
@ttch2911 Ай бұрын
Who would have thought the city envisioned in the movie "Fifth Element" is being built in Saudi Arabia! Maybe they should recruit Bruce Willis to do the promotion. 😂
@michaellaforte6964 Ай бұрын
It’ll take a hundred years more to fully realize it as it’s presented, and that’s if the myriad of reasons for it to stall and fail are somehow miraculously overcome. As another person analyzed, these are about as tall as the Petronas towers and figuring you’d need about 100 of them per Km at a cost of around 1.5B USD, over 170km you’d be looking at 25.5 Trillion USD and that doesn’t include the myriad of bridges connecting the two walls or the metro system. It’s financially unaffordable. But then factor in it also presumes a demand based on population growth and data has been showing most of the developed world populations are in decline, raising serious doubt that there’s any such need for a new city for 9M people at all. It’s DOA. They could spend fractions of the money on many other investments that would have far greater value for humanity. They can sprinkle pretty renderings all over it but it doesn’t change the base realities of humanity and cities as organisms
@SeeLasSee 3 ай бұрын
I suspect that the full length will never be constructed. Even then, why not do 15km first.
@Luke-tg9jy 2 ай бұрын
The first built parts will be like living in the ghetto with how much more technology will advance by then. This will never be finished.
@scipioafricanus5871 2 ай бұрын
They're already scaling it back according to the Guardian as of April 10, 2024 because of budget constraints. _Just a mile and a half_ is expected to be finished by 2030 out of 105 miles...
@Luke-tg9jy 2 ай бұрын
@@scipioafricanus5871Smooth brain dictator was doing to many lines when he came up with this idea.
@UnravelingArchitecture Ай бұрын
Congratulations you've guessed it! It was reduced by 98.57%
@fergman300 2 ай бұрын
Seems doable to me....imagine what is like to be on a Cruise ship. Now imagine thousands of cruise ships lined up in the desert. Efficiency will be the name of the game.
@R1ch4rd74 Ай бұрын
i do wonder if they were inspired by urban 3 story malls? ok in all seriousness this design would be a great design for a squared version of a mall. call it the square line mall? they reduced the size from 105 miles to just 1 and a half miles now. as to your last line in this video 'the death of malls in America' ?? the 3 i frequent are busy from open to close. especially on Friday Saturday and Sunday. these malls are a madhouse to get into and out of on those 3 days. maybe the malls you are referring to were poorly planned in a dying population? maybe the malls are outdated and will not refurbish them ( re the Kmart Effect) to be up to date and modern with building and fashion as well as current food trends. you have to keep up or be left behind. their investors understand that and a return on their investment. although i would rather invest my money is something more stable then current trends. sorry for the long response. have a great day everyone.
@Displacement-destroyer 21 күн бұрын
I like what you're saying well. I hope the Prince didn't watched this. Apparently people go missing when they say anything negative about him and his Ideals.😢
@Tropicaya 2 ай бұрын
I'm in the LINE. Send HELP. ...or I'll jump Ma'am, don't jump. We haven't cleaned up the last 10,000 jumpers at the bottom. Can you wait a few months?
@bioLarzen Ай бұрын
This whole project looks like an AI got the task of creating a "project" around the top 20 tech/eco/social/etc. buzzwords of the time, and then a CGI team was tasked to put it into CGI.
@willchristie2650 Ай бұрын
God forbid that these Islamic trillionaires actually use their wealth to help common people instead of building these vanity projects.
@kxjx Ай бұрын
Ever was it thus. Organized religion is always a scam.
@mikepalmer2219 Ай бұрын
Typical of all of the super rich wether they are Islamic or not.
@Restrocket 27 күн бұрын
@@mikepalmer2219 no one else makes anything so monumentally stupid
@IvanPlayStation4LiFe 23 күн бұрын
The country wealth they use for themselves
@SourBogBubble 23 күн бұрын
Why? It's their fin money, oh wait you're a Communist!
@hassanalbolkiah127 Ай бұрын
They seem to be obsessed with tourism for some reason, despite they own Mecca which gets so many visitors there is a quota to limit it. Just expand Mecca for more people and they got their tourism.
@DcenterOnline 2 ай бұрын
THIS Will Surprise Everyone and THIS LINE will becoming everyone's choice to live in and experience this. DO YOU think they are fool? you just intelligent? They have successful top rated engineers and they all know what challenges would be to complete this. They considered everything then started.
@ruZZiansGoHome 2 ай бұрын
yes! they are fool! like the pyramid builders!😂
@Captain_MonsterFart Ай бұрын
Why would you want to be trapped between narrow walls?
@NR-fd9wv Ай бұрын
to be fair: not all people involved are fools, some just take the money and pretend it is a good idea
@atifrana5470 2 ай бұрын
I wonder in case of earthquake what will happen? How they will come out?
@zossua7375 2 ай бұрын
Looks like Saudi Arabia is near a tectonic plate too.
@joeker1013 Ай бұрын
There is a TTRPG called Paranoia, where you live in a city run by a crazy AI, that you can never leave. I think this is how it starts.
@peter7960 2 ай бұрын
Its a new concept that tries to create a 21st C living experience. Most critics (i hv seen so far) are Westerners.Brings a racial dimension to the debate. MbS is committed to his vision. Those who,'buy into it," will support him.
@donerskine7935 2 ай бұрын
Maybe it's because 'Westerners' have some sense?
@richardmetzler7909 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm. Maybe Saudis are just not in the habit of publicly criticising their royalty for... some reason or other? Also, most critics just point out that the project is fundamentally dumb and relies heavily on non-existing technologies to solve self-inflicted problems, and they would do the same with the same glee if, say, Elon Musk came up with the plan.
@peter7960 2 ай бұрын
@@donerskine7935 The same Westerners who cant see their own economies imploding because of excessive debt;money printing;unnecessary wars;increase defense budget at the expense of social service provision;expensive energy;decline in std of living;loss of competitiveness;de dollarization;etc...commenting on MbS's projects??? Nope! No sense whatsoever.
@sabrinarodrigues629 2 ай бұрын
So Western criticism bring racial dimension to what? Arabs are wayyyy more racist
@Captain_MonsterFart Ай бұрын
Suggesting non Western people would enjoy being trapped inside a mall prison seems slightly racist also. It's creating a science fiction version of a 21st century living experience, not a practical one.
@FrutigerAeroFan839 2 ай бұрын
We will have to work there. Plus in 50 years. Our brains will be in avatars like cyborgs.
@PseudoProphet 3 ай бұрын
There will be no line, but everything else will be built. 😅 Line is just for publicity. 😂
@kimwelch4652 2 ай бұрын
Every road to Utopia always leads to Dystopia, and every dystopian city is built with concrete (e.g., ancient Rome, WWII German civil constructions, Soviet Union Brutalism).
@bruceangel4459 2 ай бұрын
A feasibility study and test bed should resolve any lingering doubts.
@Ai-he1dp Ай бұрын
Its quite perplexing on how many mega projects are underway that will prove to be a complete waste of time and money, mega money!... instead of spending it on already proven projects, good quality social housing isn't rocket science.
@Blackinterceptor999 Ай бұрын
Ground-scrapers would be far better, especially in that environment for many many reasons
@imjody Ай бұрын
They recently dropped it from 170kms in length, down to just 2.4kms. I knew this was going to happen. It makes way more sense this way. 170kms was f*cking stupid, lol.
@UnravelingArchitecture Ай бұрын
Part of me wonders if they were so ambitious in concept just to get widespread media coverage??
@imjody Ай бұрын
@@UnravelingArchitecture I'm right there with you. And it worked!
@rogerwalsberg 23 күн бұрын
The high speed rail is a joke. You'll really want slow rail so inhabitants can get off next to where they live. Multiple stops along the length will prevent the train from reaching full speed, unless the goal is to only stop at the ends of the city.