What Are Main & Off Tanks/Supports in Paladins? - Paladins Beginner's Guide

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AndrewChicken

AndrewChicken

Күн бұрын

Welcome back to another Paladins video! Solo tank Raum and Focusing Lens Ying solo healer have two things in common: they’re both bad. Neither of these champions are bad in their own right, but playing them in this way will set your team up for failure. But why is that?
Well, this is because of the distinction between subclasses in Paladins that the game doesn’t outright tell you about. There are two subclasses in the front line and support classes, those being main and off tanks, and main and off supports. These aren’t properly defined classes in the game itself, but instead are broadly agreed upon subclasses that have very real consequences for a team’s draft.
In this video, I’ll be explaining exactly what each of these subclasses mean and why it’s so important to know which characters and playstyles fall into which category so that you can be better prepared when making your next team comp.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:55 - Main & Off Tanks
4:58 - Main & Off Supports
9:02 - Outro
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@AndrewChicken
@AndrewChicken 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this basic overview of main & off tanks/supports will help players stop picking something silly like solo tank Raum or solo healer FL Ying in the future! Please... please? Join my Discord server: discord.gg/fnjV3nV Follow me on Twitch: www.twitch.tv/andrewchicken
@tasoganedude
@tasoganedude 2 жыл бұрын
You know, I want a tactical healing Talent for Ying because Life Exchange requires aiming. When I'm focusing on trying to aim at my teammates, a flank comes in to kill me. That's why I play Resonance, it's a tactical talent. If they made a powerful tactical healing Talent for Ying, I'd gladly give up Resonance. The old Talent Lifelike used to be that.
@Make_Damba_Meta_Again
@Make_Damba_Meta_Again 2 жыл бұрын
You might have a difference of opinion, but I believe that off support is far better at following teammates (flanks or flanking teammates) and filling in the healing that the main support can't do because they might be too far away or their behind a wall and their healer can't get to them. A great example of this is Jenos and Vora whose self sustain is enough to 1v1 most backline dps and that extra bit of healing from Jenos (Along with damage) is enough to beat someone who Vora struggles against.
@dtb5861
@dtb5861 2 жыл бұрын
i cant send any messages on your discord server because it asks me for my phone number but when i enter in the number it doesnt work is there an other way i can be given permission to actually use the server
@rafaelayres959
@rafaelayres959 2 жыл бұрын
No
@techwizsmith7963
@techwizsmith7963 2 жыл бұрын
@@tasoganedude That's the buff I want, make Res also do healing, like the card ying has but better and for the whole team
@taco_sensei
@taco_sensei 2 жыл бұрын
Hi-Rez should collab with content creators like you to make guides like these official and reaching a bigger (beginner) audience. Great video
@Yazoon_S
@Yazoon_S 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@rhubaruth
@rhubaruth 2 жыл бұрын
First they should add a choice of role when you go in ranked. So you don't have 3 people with same role 😅
@bay3438
@bay3438 2 жыл бұрын
I think they already did it with punk duck on paladins in 90 decond series
@satoruriolu6132
@satoruriolu6132 Жыл бұрын
No. No no. Check why PunkDuck quit working for hi-rez. He tried, both in smite and paladins, and both were disasters, didn't get paid, small deadlines and with a team that barely verified his script, and after one of his videos wasn't all that popular, he was promptly fired unjustly
@abbattior
@abbattior 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he made an entire video dedicated to solo support dmg ying.
@bash3997
@bash3997 2 жыл бұрын
yea lol
@RAPsterGamerPro
@RAPsterGamerPro 2 жыл бұрын
Can you blame him though?? Solo healers with damage talents, especially Ying, are throw picks at this point
@kelme8095
@kelme8095 2 жыл бұрын
I see a solo damage Ying like 3-4 times a day, usually by well known playwrs/influencers too. Or damage Seris, Damage Lilith etc
@Azyne
@Azyne Жыл бұрын
LMFAO WHAT WAS WRONG WITH ME WHEN I COMMENTED THIS One time I almost did 100k with Ying We lost because my team left me as the only healer, making the game hard to both heal and damage since my team was pure garbage and a pretty good enemy team. LMAO I WAS SUCH A BOZO WHEN I COMMENTED THIS I DIDNT KNOW WHAT IT WAS TO BE A HEALER💀
@WitchNakime
@WitchNakime 11 ай бұрын
@@Azyne The reason you lost wasn't because your team left you as the only support, but because instead of healing you did damage
@adamavants388
@adamavants388 2 жыл бұрын
I used to solo tank raum all the time and every game I did that in was extremely difficult. Now I know why. Thanks Andrew!
@VinTJ
@VinTJ 5 ай бұрын
Raum is still my comfort pick because I like how he plays, but it's clear the game needs more main-tank players... lol almost every casual match I'm in, I'm the only one who wants to go tank.
@GammaFields
@GammaFields 3 ай бұрын
Raums 1v1 capabilites are still 🔥
@Lyra_dragonal
@Lyra_dragonal 2 жыл бұрын
Aw I was hoping you'd tell us the specific talents that make each support off/main (also for tanks). But amazing video none the less, should help some people understand a lot better
@sunbear3324
@sunbear3324 2 жыл бұрын
If the Talent increases your healing output/ effectiveness ( range, cooldown, how many champs it can heal at the same time) - main support talent. If the Talent increases your damage, gives you a stronger crowd control ability or mobility - off support talent.
@sunbear3324
@sunbear3324 2 жыл бұрын
If the Talent increases the tanks survivability for example damage reduction or crowd control immunity/ let's them hold an area on the map or objective better ( Ash big shield talent, makoa half shell, Fernando aegis, Inaras mother's grace) - main tank talent . If it gives a tank more ability to get kills, or force enemies to retreat, often called making space ( Ash slug shot for extra range, makoas pluck for more dmg obviously, and even Inaras cripple talent for if you want to play her as an off tank)- off tank talent. Idk maybe this helps kinda bored ngl.
@Jeff-xb8eg
@Jeff-xb8eg 2 жыл бұрын
@@sunbear3324 couldn't have explained it beyter
@sunbear3324
@sunbear3324 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jeff-xb8eg I'm sure you could've :)
@L4X1K3
@L4X1K3 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ying can be a pretty good support if you use the Life exchange talent and decent loadout, heal output can be similar to damba albeit the damage is pretty bad which shows a lot in the late game, though you can heal pretty far with your illusions so if your teammates can run away to a good position you are likely to save them, not to mention you can literally use illusions as meat shields
@erleinmayer7498
@erleinmayer7498 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a problem with solo off tank. Actually, this also applies to solo main tank. It doesn't matter if you are solo with one of these two, if you don't play smart you are going to die a lot. Play with your team. YOU are a tank, LEAD your team. However, for solo supports that pick damage talent and bad healing base kit, there's no forgiving. It's not your fault though, its Hirez's poor balancing
@Chr0n0s38
@Chr0n0s38 2 жыл бұрын
Poor matchmaking too. Unless you're in a lobby where you can trust your DPS/tank to peel for you, some self-defense is important. LE Ying is easy to dive. FL Ying, not so much.
@Itsover9000napa
@Itsover9000napa 2 жыл бұрын
I mean ig but you could just pick the char that works for the roll
@ectotrix7399
@ectotrix7399 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a problem for solo off tank. I'm talking for most of the time here. A lot of them just can't survive enough and will not be able to do neither point tank (cause they can't contest point/defend areas) or off tank role (cause they can't dps enough if they take too much damage and die). Solo Khan, Atlas, Raum, Ruckus, Torvald, Yagorath, is going to put your team at a disadvantage. That being said, i got your point, you can still win ofc. Even with the worst team comp it is always possible to win with your team. But where i don't agree is that it's going to feel better for you and your team if you pick a tank that can survive long enough. You're still going to die as solo point tank if your team loose the teamfight because playing solo tank sucks but it's going te be better than solo off-tank (you don't wanna die before your damage dealers, that would suck) .
@Chr0n0s38
@Chr0n0s38 2 жыл бұрын
@@ectotrix7399 Solo off tank does work, but needs the right team comp. You don't contest point immediately, but instead dive their backline. Ideally your backline dps apply pressure to keep their team focused while you and a flank go and wipe their supports. I've had a fair amount of success with this as Yag.
@ectotrix7399
@ectotrix7399 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chr0n0s38 I mean this is also what you wanna do every game, no matter what tank do you have. I still think you are more chance to die too early with an off-tank that's what i'm saying (like the the first to die in your team, for exemple if your dps must hide and the enemy team focus you for several seconds). Do whatever you wanna do but that's not what I would do. Anyway i can't force people to play what I think it's good.
@aivarasguja4510
@aivarasguja4510 2 жыл бұрын
More videos like this! This is awesome, guides, strats and tips are the best content out there! Thanks!
@caboosew.1604
@caboosew.1604 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide. Coming from overwatch I had a decent idea of main and off tanks and supports but wasn't too sure who fit what category with the different talents.
@houseofhank3896
@houseofhank3896 2 жыл бұрын
I swear whenever I need a vid you make it. Ty for the always amazing content
@PenguinSoup06
@PenguinSoup06 2 жыл бұрын
I'm utterly proud of myself at this point. I've never used any of Ying's talents other than life exchange😎
@ravins4786
@ravins4786 Жыл бұрын
Hey I just want to say something o found you from your Maeve guide and that was my first introduction in to paladins, I am now a master rank almost hitting grandmaster while you might not know how useful these videos are to newer players they help a tremendous amount I would say you cover Almost every single main point I could have thought of.
@doc1192
@doc1192 2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing Paladins content! Keep it up! You got my sub now
@GeekandGlory
@GeekandGlory Жыл бұрын
This is super useful. I have been playing Raum as a solo tank and struggling. Now I know to pick Barik!
@vigorouspringle8962
@vigorouspringle8962 Жыл бұрын
Depending on the enemy setup Resonance Ying as an off healer is so god damn terrifying The Ult % you can rack up is insane with teams running double point tanks
@mastrorick
@mastrorick 2 жыл бұрын
Solo or double offtank can be very strong in squads: sweep the enemy team with overwhelming damage before they are able to cap
@sebastianmax7165
@sebastianmax7165 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of times i have won/lost a game because the solo support decide to go dmg is insane.
@ME-tu9tw
@ME-tu9tw 2 жыл бұрын
I like the call-out to ying players, I'm so sick of loosing ranked games because our ying decided to play resonance.
@ROFLPirate_x
@ROFLPirate_x 2 жыл бұрын
Me: *Off-Tank Inara main with a 3.24KDA and 65% winrate* "Oh..." I know this is a very brief overview, but I would say most Tanks are less tertiary than the list states. It's more of a spectrum, than just solidly "Main - Flex - Off" So glad you made this video though.
@RaccoonGrrrl
@RaccoonGrrrl 2 жыл бұрын
True I have my own Raum Main Tank build and it need 4v1 (or instant kill ult) to actually be able kill me. Meanwhile I almost always fo off tank Barik.
@octaviusthe2nd672
@octaviusthe2nd672 2 жыл бұрын
@@RaccoonGrrrl main tanks are supposed to protect their allies with something like a shield or a wall wich is literally impossible for Raum to do
@rell660
@rell660 2 жыл бұрын
You are doing gods work with this video.
@rubenwallace563
@rubenwallace563 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this video lol got the game a few weeks ago and still don’t even have everyone
@williamgranlund3935
@williamgranlund3935 Жыл бұрын
Thanks andrew for the goodm info
@Clawzz299
@Clawzz299 2 жыл бұрын
Ying players done goofed so bad that Andrew had to make an infomercial. 🤣
@kaciekk
@kaciekk 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Atlas can also be a flex tank. I've seen people play him really well as a point tank, very annoying
@ZipDoomTide
@ZipDoomTide 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen people make Unstable Fissure work as a main tank talent on many occasions
@reddbendd
@reddbendd Жыл бұрын
atlas is big brain tank
@rikrishshrestha5421
@rikrishshrestha5421 Жыл бұрын
@@ZipDoomTide Unstable Fiss rarely works well. It's highly situational . Might affect 1 enemy rarely. WHile Deja vu , rewind 2+ enemies most of the time. Waaaayyy better.
@KRU-2604
@KRU-2604 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ying buff next patch is going to be game changing though
@salmonmankingoftheocean7624
@salmonmankingoftheocean7624 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe you didn’t mention the best Support duo, Smoke n Dagger Skye plus FL Ying
@Delicashilous
@Delicashilous 2 жыл бұрын
2:49 Like I said, we need a new point tank this year.
@pcr_shadows8393
@pcr_shadows8393 2 жыл бұрын
Me and my great friend, played Ash Nando, and it was some of the most fun ive ever had, we just plow through the front line and dominate, and since we both have great shields and lots of health, 1v1ing dps champions was amazing.
@drunkcoconut
@drunkcoconut Жыл бұрын
As a support main, I make sure to always go for the talents involving heals (unless i'm doing a quest/trial). With Ying, i always go Life Exchange. With Seris, I always go Mortal Reach. I consider Seris to be a main support when using mortal reach and an off support when using Agony. But I prefer to be a main support.
@omrizubary
@omrizubary 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Andrew thank yoy very very much for making this guide, i've been confused for a long them by not knowing who is a main tank and who is an off tank. i once thought khan was a main tank cuz of his shield without considering his shield is so small. and i learned about off tanks who can be main tanks. like you saisash was an off tank but she can be a main tank,so anyway thank you.
@ZipDoomTide
@ZipDoomTide 2 жыл бұрын
Ash with Fortress Breaker increases the size of her shield, which allows her to zone more of an area and thus making her more viable to hold point.
@zoroark7249
@zoroark7249 2 жыл бұрын
Hey just found this video but but do you have any suggestions for healer combos for off corvus?
@m0nt4gn36
@m0nt4gn36 2 жыл бұрын
There's a distinction I like to make in the Off tank class that may not be valid at all but it's there anyways, while some off-tank serve for a much general/versatile purpose often accompanied by a lack of mobility (Khan, Atlas, Torvald) others are exceptional at diving accompanied with a lot of mobility (Yagorath, Ruckus and Raum) While some off-tanks play around their allies some others relly on their aggresiveness
@vividao4123
@vividao4123 Жыл бұрын
What you're talking about are the subclasses of Off Tanks: Divers and Brawlers, namely, and then there's Support. Divers rely majorly on hit-and-run strategies while Brawlers are meant to hold out in a fight either long enough to win or for someone else to finish the job. The third type, Support, are tanks who provide buffs or heals to help their teammates win matches, Torvald being the prime example of this category.
@T.K.F.
@T.K.F. 2 жыл бұрын
I love you non gameplay videos btw, at this point. Uncommon or educational videos are more interesting than gameplay. I hope you'll be the karQ of paladins
@wlgnarly1926
@wlgnarly1926 2 жыл бұрын
You are so underrated brother
@floressa3504
@floressa3504 2 жыл бұрын
How do I copy paste this amazing video link into every single ranked lobby chat where a level 150 seris insist on playing mortal reach when we already have a main support io / rei
@ksm4939
@ksm4939 2 жыл бұрын
What mouse do u use? Asking just out of curiousity
@blitzvgc2363
@blitzvgc2363 2 жыл бұрын
They should give Yings clones the ability to multi target again, as apart of the main kit
@Golden_Zeke
@Golden_Zeke 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video. I played normal matches, I picked ruckus (off tank) and my team mate was like: we don't need two tanks! I was so annoyed. Like do I have to play rank for smart team mates or what?
@16skripkaj14
@16skripkaj14 2 жыл бұрын
I really do wish ying had a different talent from focusing lens. Like how the fact her other two talents to a degree alter how her clones work. Like a random idea could be that ying can have three clones out instead of three but her clones lose 25-50 percent of their base health. Just something other then focusing lense
@nrishiee5231
@nrishiee5231 2 жыл бұрын
i believe a long time ago in the past ying had something similiar. there was a talent that allowed her clones to target 2 allies at once at the cost of reduced healing. apparently it was disgustingly broken though. I reckon this is why mojo are so reluctant to buff ying. one wrong tweak and you can tip her immediately into the op zone. though i wonder if giving her an innate ability to teleport to teammates on her life link would be too op.
@elmercy4968
@elmercy4968 Жыл бұрын
@@nrishiee5231 Life Like. They unfortunately deleted it though Life Like was her most popular talent except Life Exchange. It wasn't broken. It was her main healing talent for quite some time, but the pro-players complained that Ying isn't viable for high ELO if she can't direct her heals. Without Life Like Ying is no fun anymore. :(
@Calliemakescontent
@Calliemakescontent 2 жыл бұрын
I usually play focus rei all the time cause the benefits of extension seem kinda pointless at times, while focus allows me to help my teammates and defend myself in dire situations
@thousandyardgavri2785
@thousandyardgavri2785 2 жыл бұрын
I only play extension when i know i cant chase the flank
@logan_12
@logan_12 2 жыл бұрын
Atlas imo should also be on the flex list, dude can tank almost anything with excellent self heal
@octaviusthe2nd672
@octaviusthe2nd672 2 жыл бұрын
His shield expires too quickly tho. You need to be blocking damage not tanking it
@Hi-kc4bv
@Hi-kc4bv Жыл бұрын
As a rei main (i hope to play restraint but end up as extension a lot) I cry when nobody else plays support because they think I’ll heal them
@bloodangel7731
@bloodangel7731 Жыл бұрын
My support mains are jenos seris and damba. Which other support characters go well together with them?
@generalknez3942
@generalknez3942 8 ай бұрын
Bruh as a Fernando main the beauty of him is that he is not a point tank but rather flexible. He starts out as a point tank but as the caut gets a hold he becomes an off tank and melts through the enemies like butter. You should always secure a flank and not just straight up get on the point. If the enemy tank is on the point, GOOD. Now its a 5v4. Also, Atlas with Deja Vu is a great point tank. He cannot be removed from the point. So he is flexible thanks to his shield reset, rewind and aoe setback which you can lob over terrain or sometimes shields. You can also double banish their support too.
@shwifty7300
@shwifty7300 2 жыл бұрын
Best example for double off support would be grohk furia tbh
@rizolada
@rizolada 2 жыл бұрын
Yagorath is definitely a flex.
@alexsheng_2830
@alexsheng_2830 2 жыл бұрын
But I got a question. If you have 2 tanks and 2 healers, what is better for the last one? A dps or a flank?
@Sun-Tzu-
@Sun-Tzu- Жыл бұрын
Most of this is down to personal playstyle, composition, build, and skill. I point defense as Raum and Torvald all the time, and use Pip as a main healer.
@Diamond10398
@Diamond10398 Жыл бұрын
Problem is though when the first 4 picks in a casual game are all flanks and damage that’s when I just give up and solo tank with raum lol. Also yeah like you said two off tanks is do-able.
@juicebox_5275
@juicebox_5275 2 жыл бұрын
I play ghrok all the time and go any talent (mainly go maelstrom) and still average close to 100k healing a match... talents are not exactly the sole basis on how much you heal, it also depends on your deck builds too
@sock1533
@sock1533 2 жыл бұрын
I think nando should definitely be put in flex, only difference is hes better as point than off
@elirichard8331
@elirichard8331 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, if I see another solo FL or renosance ying, I'm gonna loose it
@ProfessorAres
@ProfessorAres 2 жыл бұрын
I feel there are some healers that are just meant for off supporting and bad for main support like Jenos
@HeavyTraffix
@HeavyTraffix 2 жыл бұрын
great video and to be honest very long over do. now you need to make one on buying items and why. PLEASE!! It stresses me out when I have 2 damage on my team and neither buys wreaker to counter khan. Also why 2 snipers on Primal court is a bad idea.
@hotwaffles2606
@hotwaffles2606 Жыл бұрын
yago nara goes hard
@naturescorruptedinfactorie8062
@naturescorruptedinfactorie8062 2 жыл бұрын
Epic
@1999StarofCalamity
@1999StarofCalamity 2 жыл бұрын
Is off flank a thing too? Cause Koga should be one
@rafabest62
@rafabest62 Ай бұрын
Can we get an update on who's main tank and who's off tank please, and who can do bot? I have no idea anymore
@Jeff-xb8eg
@Jeff-xb8eg 2 жыл бұрын
What category would atlas fit in?
@lindaschmid447
@lindaschmid447 2 жыл бұрын
On base kit alone these are (imo) main, flex, and off healers MAIN: Rei, Seris, Lillith, Io, Damba FLEX: Furia, Jenos, Grover, Grohk, Pip OFF: Ying, Corvus
@slayer4025
@slayer4025 Жыл бұрын
Is Extermimate Furia a main Suppprt ?
@sashastranger3096
@sashastranger3096 2 жыл бұрын
I think inara is a flexible tank too i love playing her as an off tank
@b1o-tek
@b1o-tek Жыл бұрын
a new raum rushing into the enemy team with no idea what his M2 does:
@dooppoop5904
@dooppoop5904 2 жыл бұрын
Please save me from all of those solo support binary star Jenos
@bbg_lia
@bbg_lia 2 жыл бұрын
nah cuz as a level 62 ying, i don’t get why most ying players choose either reasonance or focusing lens even thought they’re the only healer, i have seen so many ying players do that and it confuses me, like they’re asking to throw the game.
@thousandyardgavri2785
@thousandyardgavri2785 2 жыл бұрын
I think I can do both main and off support when Im focus rei.
@shinobilen9181
@shinobilen9181 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game for 2 to 3 years and this is the first time im hearing that supports that pick their dmg talent are called off supports and that all supports are can be off supports cuz everyone of them have a Dmg Talent.
@teknomax7883
@teknomax7883 3 ай бұрын
You have no idea how many people don't know this. I see players with high level being main support and not healing properly. And also when you're the only support and they don't protect you
@Z.O.M.G
@Z.O.M.G Жыл бұрын
Good video, but I disagree with 2 things: 1. I would consider Raum AT LEAST a flexible tank, with a shield, healing and movement ability (+ a supressive minigun) he could do both very well 2. As a yago main, I would also consider her a flexible tank. She is definetly better equipped for off tanking, but with harden and area denial combined with healing cards and the point heal talent, she can be a menace on the point
@T.K.F.
@T.K.F. 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right about how to play point tank. Newer or low elo tanks always either stay on point when there's no one or rush 1v5
@biancatorres5528
@biancatorres5528 Жыл бұрын
As a Ying enjoyer, it makes me hella mad to see a dmg Ying as a solo healer
@trailmix1013
@trailmix1013 2 жыл бұрын
What about tank Gronks and main support Skye? ;)
@Gotcha_open_son
@Gotcha_open_son 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this video was made for the ying mains tbh
@j3tth3di3ty8
@j3tth3di3ty8 2 жыл бұрын
I believe in point tank term supremacy
@thousandyardgavri2785
@thousandyardgavri2785 2 жыл бұрын
I love playing hybrid
@stormeagle
@stormeagle 2 жыл бұрын
This is why i still love paladin even though the devs themselves doesn't. Everything is so dynamic
@ZipDoomTide
@ZipDoomTide 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda foolish to say something like that. If they didn't love the game, they'd pull the plug on servers cuz to be frank Paladins is already in a monetary crisis, there's a reason why we still get champions and event passes with mostly high quality skins and balance patches. If they didn't love the game, we'd be in a drought like Overwatch was.
@mediocregaming8633
@mediocregaming8633 Жыл бұрын
Unnatural persistence yag is an point tank build so I'll put her in flex
@6-0DrunkAF
@6-0DrunkAF 11 ай бұрын
Ash is a point tank u can't change my mind on that other then that I agree
@stonkmaster9122
@stonkmaster9122 2 жыл бұрын
Cant Atlas be played as a point tank with his talent as well?
@assassinshadow2800
@assassinshadow2800 Жыл бұрын
I thought nando could be flex between both role also, personally, I think some support with good base healing can go to dps talent (Grover and Seris as example) ok btw where is sub-healer raum xD
@captainphoton1693
@captainphoton1693 2 жыл бұрын
favorite DPS : Moji favorite flank : Pip Favorite Tank : zhin Favorite healer : Raum
@qrzd5484
@qrzd5484 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@octaviusthe2nd672
@octaviusthe2nd672 2 жыл бұрын
I can kinda see the three of them but excuse me what the actual fuck is a tank Zhin?
@captainphoton1693
@captainphoton1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@octaviusthe2nd672 gain back conter when it hit, and stuff that make you more like an off tank. Look it up on KZfaq.
@octaviusthe2nd672
@octaviusthe2nd672 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainphoton1693 oh you mean the cockroach Zhin?
@captainphoton1693
@captainphoton1693 2 жыл бұрын
@@octaviusthe2nd672 we aren't using the same name XD
@Steph1
@Steph1 2 жыл бұрын
How long is this PTS? I don’t play PTS and waiting as Grover to see my own healing radius 💀
@PherPhur
@PherPhur 2 жыл бұрын
Respectfully a main support and off support is actually not that great at all. Two off supports however, that know when to push, when to dmg and when to heal is insanely valuable. Especially when late game caut hits. It's actually the meta with a shield tank and a non shield tank like inara, azaan or term. Why you never see that though is a combination of 2 things. 1 being peoples old outdated belief 2 supports aren't great and especially 2 off supports. The other reason is because playing as an off support with another off support on your team is very hard to play because you have to be hyper aware of your team and not tunnel vision too much on either healing or dmg. You basically have to be a professional at situational awareness, know when cauts up, when you can pop a heal and it be effective, when to sit there and try to fire on someone and it be effective dmg, there's so much going on playing an off support with another off support. But it's unbelievably overpowered. Simply put a 100k heal 100k dmg jenos on the team in a 20 minute game can't be beat, the value of that champion is top tier. Then you add in the factor that they are trading out that dmg and heals at the right moment, even if the other support has fallen.. yea you can't beat that value.
@nttcus6263
@nttcus6263 Жыл бұрын
main tanks stay on point, off - tanks attack with flanks, main healer deals a lot of heal, off - healer just 2nd or 3rd smg with opportunity of healing
@octaviusthe2nd672
@octaviusthe2nd672 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the legendary forbidden technique of 5 main supports on siege. You have unbreakable healing even with mid-game caut but you gotta get that 4-0 before caut hits %60. If you can't win before that you're basically doomed
@Whyvern95000
@Whyvern95000 2 жыл бұрын
Its easy to 4/0 against 5 supports they can't heal if your team targets 1 at a time.
@octaviusthe2nd672
@octaviusthe2nd672 2 жыл бұрын
@@Whyvern95000 no you can outheal pretty much everything in early game so it's easy to get the first two points, than the caut start kicking in
@assassinshadow2800
@assassinshadow2800 Жыл бұрын
@@Whyvern95000 I think it depend on team comp, not all team can have ability to burst down 1 guy quick early
@jenningsgardner9161
@jenningsgardner9161 Жыл бұрын
i still dont really understand the point of off supports though... they do some healing sure, they can run with the flanks and heal them too, but I'd rather have a main healer + Tyra than a main healer + freaking Grohk trying to be a damage and barely healing at all.
@captainphoton1693
@captainphoton1693 2 жыл бұрын
wait isn't fire ball nando a viable build?
@budman1019
@budman1019 2 жыл бұрын
FlankNando is forgotten it seems.
@jtroll462
@jtroll462 Жыл бұрын
I'm a tank main cause no one else picks it. You know the pain of a 1v5 with raum you can hold out but your enemy needs to be dumb for you to survive
@taurus2xd239
@taurus2xd239 2 жыл бұрын
Khan is an off tank? I play him 90% as point tank and it is working freaking good. I only play him off, if the enemy tank is better or there is brutal damage output against me and my shield. But I nerver thought, Khan would be a off tank, I thought, khan is an alternativ for Fernando xD. And yeah, there are pretty much bad raums, i love raum and I play him worthfull. He is great as an offtank. But PLS do more guide videos, they are fast and good. I like it. Pleeeeeaaaaase.
@charlesisbell6561
@charlesisbell6561 Жыл бұрын
You better put that Raum in the middle I will wreck a team with him on point whole match just need a decent flanker
@77bryanr
@77bryanr Жыл бұрын
i will never understand why most yings use focusing lens when they are the only healer in the team
@kelme8095
@kelme8095 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime I wanna play Raum, I get stuck solo tanking. Fun times
@ewitsnolan9903
@ewitsnolan9903 2 жыл бұрын
i feel attacked as a ying main who actually goes life exchange 😪
@adnanhussain9057
@adnanhussain9057 2 жыл бұрын
Sad u didn't mention damba
@thecalamariman7805
@thecalamariman7805 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain how atlas is just an off tank? He feels more like a hybrid that leans more toward off tanking to me.
@shosakazaki
@shosakazaki 2 жыл бұрын
Atlas' kit is pretty good at pushing at the enemy backline with the help of a flank teammate, rewinding enemies for if they're getting healed for the teammate to finish them up, healing himself back up with second chance to keep pushing, and providing a defensive barrier to his teammate with stasis field
@gmari5883
@gmari5883 2 жыл бұрын
He has the longest cooldowns
@redbuno
@redbuno 2 жыл бұрын
Happened to me my first qualifying game of ranked and got cussed at for not knowing how to off tank lol
@fracturedsolace145
@fracturedsolace145 2 жыл бұрын
How is Ash countered by resilience outside of her ultimate?
@techwizsmith7963
@techwizsmith7963 2 жыл бұрын
Ash's right click is an integral part of her kit, no matter what you're going. Being able to completely fuck someone's movement by throwing them into the air is great, even better if you huck them off the map with her knockback card
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 2 жыл бұрын
Resi reduces knockback abilities
@octaviusthe2nd672
@octaviusthe2nd672 2 жыл бұрын
No bonk when resilience
@fracturedsolace145
@fracturedsolace145 2 жыл бұрын
@@SocialExperiment232 I have hundreds of hours in this game and did not know that.
@MoonlightXYZ
@MoonlightXYZ 2 жыл бұрын
"You see it everywhere in ranked" meanwhile 9/10 I have to deal with some a-hole who decides we already have a tank so they grab a different champ.
@Azyne
@Azyne Жыл бұрын
Going to befriend as many people in normals as possible to send them this
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