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Chills due to its deep sounding bass.. and creamy treble.. in my opinion best to play romantic n emotional songs

Whenever I play everyone gets chills and goosebumps! But not because I'm sounding great! LoL Dang'd...I wasted too many years, too much money on my kids piano lessons instead of doing for myself. I begged my parents the moment I discovered the piano, I was 4.5 yrs old, sat on the piano bench and made up my own beautiful music. Everyone who heard me told my parents I was gifted and should get me a piano and lessons...Sadly they only thought of themselves and I was told I was too stupid to learn anything....I'm angry about all of this, but I decided a year ago after my 66th birthday to learn how to play piano, read music...easier said than done at my age and failing health. On my good days, I'll practice/play for several hours...on the bad days (pain), I play for about an hour....I LOVE playing/learning piano...I wish younger folks could realize the blessings they have when they're given lessons and have a piano! Too much time wasted on playing games and on the social media thats rewiring their brains...sad to see time wasted on junk!

Zelda Zelda calling games junk is quite hypocritical I would say. Why are you playing piano? For entertainment. Not everyone has the same taste and not everyone is interested in music, some are interested in strategic games like chess, some in football, some in music, some in computer games. Do any of these things really make you special? Well, if you are good enough you can earn you living with each of them. Each of them can be a source of entertainment and delight. I would bet you have not seen the work that goes into games like Starcraft, cs:go, dota for professionals. Shaming something just because you do not like it is simply ignorant. Also, it is Never too late to learn an instrument, just keep consistently practicing, but more important than long practice is that you practice efficiently. Hope you find happiness with your piano.

I was in Paris and walked in to the Centre Chopin piano store, not far from Pere Lachaise cemetery. My goal was to play a Pleyel (the Pleyel showroom had been shuttered). Debussy on the Pleyel I found was beautiful, and then I saw the Bechstein. I played Brahms op 188, nrs 1 and 2. The Bechstein has the most melodious middle register. Each instrument was beautiful in its own way. At home I make do with a Steinway L (;

My grandma has a 1945 steinway and it plays absolutely beautifully

You've played the best, why mess with a Steinway?

I have one, they admit such an authentic and beautiful sound.

I'm lucky I have a Steinway thats over a 100 years old

I've played both, a lot. It really matters which ones you play. You can play a M Steinway in a practice room in a conservatory and it'll be nothing like the D they have in the concert hall in that same conservatory. And Yamaha makes a huge range of instruments as well. I hope you get to play some of the better pianos of both marques and other fine marques as well.

Action is definitely heavy. I had a Petrof for a few years, and I loved the sound. But the actions was definitely heavy. Weinbach and Petrof are identical. They are also sensitive to humidity changes. And I agree, some Chinese pianos are amazing. And they continue to improve.

very interesting, I wish I had done that, played so many pianos before I bought one.

Ethan Orlanes I also would like the answer. Thank you

They are excessively precious and do not like out-of-house reviewers to sully their wares. Reason? The reality probably doesn't match the hype.

***** it's my great great great grandfather's piano. I was just curious its worth. I'm not selling it cause it's an heirloom and it looks great in my hall. matches my victorian home and furnature well. Thanks for the info.

I knew someone who had a Chickering restored and a year later it was unplayable. I'm not sure whether it was that piano or the person who restored it. Also not a fan of square grands except for looks, but if you want to know the value, there are a couple great sites for that. See bluebookofpianos.com/ and antiquepianoshop.com/faqs/#!/what-is-it-worth There are videos there. Another page talks about square pianos in particular at antiquepianoshop.com/square-grand-pianos/ I love that site - great videos and very details FAQs and information.

+John Uscian Thanks for the question. I have added it to the list of questions for our next podcast

I'll look forward to seeing that. Very much enjoy your advice and knowledge. Thanks!

That is absolutely not true. No offense to your teacher, but keep in mind that most teachers know nothing of the details of such a complex instrument; The difference in parts, how they're made, the way the woods are aged, the types of woods, the specific scale design, the string length, a one piece rim vs. a two piece rim, the ability of the action to be adjusted/manipulated to the players liking, the quality of the strings and what factory they come out of, whether the sound board is solid or laminated, tapered or the same thickness throughout. Vacuum plates vs sand cast plates, vertically laminated bridges vs. horizontally laminated bridges, duplex scaling vs no duplex scaling, how many tree rings per square inch in a high quality piano vs a low quality piano, the type of hard woods (and sometimes softer) a rim is made out of (maple, mahogany, beech, etc.), how many action brackets to support the action of a piano, how many back posts (if any) to support the 16 tons of tension in an upright piano. Just these differences should answer your question. I have not been blind folded or had the ability to play on pianos with their names covered. However, when I am told I will play on a specific piano, i can almost always tell what to expect as far as what the piano will sound and feel like if it is well prepared. I know that when someone tells me I'll be playing on a 6' yamaha that is 20 years old, it will almost always be extremely bright. I can tell that when I am presented with a well prepared Steinway D that the bass will be extremely prominent which will be very hard to beat in most other high end pianos. I know that when I'm presented with a Fazioli, it will most likely be a very bright piano. Each well known brand is known for the character that the manufacturer tries to replicate from one piano to the next. The notion that a very accomplished pianist cannot tell the difference in a "blind" playing makes the assumption that all pianists look for and desire the same things from a piano. That's obviously not true as opinions very widely from one to the other.

Thanks for that lengthy explanation, Lucas. It is very detailed and helpful and appears to have answered a question I have had for years. My teacher would have appreciated your insights on it as well.

I'm new to pianos but I have noticed from watching videos the way a newer generation Steinway sounds VS some other pianos. But I'm new so I won't act like I know much of what I'm talking about, good post though. Maybe I'll get a chance to own a nice grand piano that was built sometime in the 2000's someday

I have an old Hamilton and I love it. The low end resonates beautifully and the nigh end is fantastic. it doesn't nave that snattering glass sound some pianos seem to have, in my perception anyway. I am very happy with it and its al ost 60 years old.

Good for you. Pianos are different. We need to stop trying to find a "best" IMO. Enjoy the differences and the great qualities each one has. And it's ok to have a preference, but that doesn't mean if someone has a preference that it's the best instrument.

I would look at Petrof from Czech. I have a 5"3 and love the feel and sound!

***** These are very good questions. We have a few videos that address these issues when it comes to used pianos. A Soundboard should be in good condition to even consider buying a used piano and the plate must not have any major cracks. This video is mostly concerned with new pianos and the current state of the piano market. There are a number of issues to check for when buying a vintage instrument. Here are a few videos to help: How to Buy a Used Piano: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5iVZs6B37aZm4k.html How to check for Soundboard issues: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fbykYJyXv9O0j6s.html Old Vs. New Pianos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/raumfallqNy4Y5c.html What are Stencil Pianos? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMpklJSo18usfoU.html Can you Replace a Soundboard: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bMWIhKSTzs6qnpc.html What is a Pitch Raise: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLRyecl9rdCVfX0.html Rebuilding Vs. Reconditioning: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJaejMek3KexdHk.html The MOST Important Part of a Piano: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h79kdNOrrK2xomw.html Regulation, Voicing and Fine Tuning: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5mgotuZsZfMmHU.html Rebuilding with Steinway Parts: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h5mnqrplyJbSg6M.html Myth of the $1,000 Piano: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9RllKuFp8_eZok.html Gray Market Yamaha Pianos: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9x1nsh2krrXiXU.html Helping Your Piano Last Longer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJmimriXlcqwY58.html What is the Right Piano for You: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNh9rcSq3a6taHU.html Hope these help!

Thank you . . . I'm sure in such a through list, that anyone will find the answers that they are looking for -- even as a novice. :-)

Hey, let me just add a funny story. The regular piano tuner of my old charity shop piano (a Steinbach) didn't tell me he wasn't able to tune to piano to concert pitch and was tuning it down a semitone. Eventually it started slipping out of tune just a few weeks after he'd tuned it. So I decided to ask another local piano tuner to come and see what work was needed. When he arrived I discovered he was blind. He listened to the piano first and started to investigate. As we were talking, he used his fingers to search around the pins. Eventually he stopped and said "hold on, what's this?". When I looked then sure enough the wrestplank was cracked. He found another crack further down the piano using the same method. So, in 15 minutes he'd found a problem that my sighted tuner never noticed!

If it was an X piano, that's the direction Yamaha is going in. Some of the older Yamahas weren't that bright. They vary. However, the pianos like the CFX, SX, and CX, all have a different tone to them than the older Yamahas. It sounds like you played a CFX.

@Shao Yu Mai Wang CX now. Go with CX as they are a big improvement tonally over the already excellent, but now discontinued, C-series.

Hahaha lol

I imagine Fazioli would get a major boost with Chopin competition winner choosing their instrument, followed by Petrof whose latest series are astonishing instruments.

Cracked plates are rare. More than that, cracked plates occur mostly on specific models of pianos which have designs with inherent weakness to them. Piano plates are made out of cast iron. Steel is forged which is a different process. Piano plates are made by heating the metal until it melts. There are two methods of making piano plates: the traditional wet sand casting, and the newer vacuum mold process which is better suited to mass production. Forged steel is not melted, but heated to a malleable state so it can be bent into shape. The large size of piano plates doesn't lend itself to this process. Fortunately, cast iron is strong enough except in extreme plate designs with design flaws.

Thank you. I had the wrong impression of it being more common. Interesting.

Every two to three years, perhaps he should. This video is much fairer than the earlier video he did on "best." So I feel Mr. Estrin is aware of the changing situations with pianos. It's kind of exciting, and the acoustic piano is here to stay.

Michael Ubinas he actually has a video on here of him playing a Wurlitzer piano! Yet he never mentions Wurlitzer in his lists of good pianos.

No. Terrible

I had a Wurlitzer spinet when I was a kid. I never cared for them and still don't. Whether that was the brand or that it was a spinet is hard to say. But I've never heard or played a Wurlitzer that I would have wanted to take home.

Bösendorfer is owned by Yamaha. That might be the reason for that.

Bösendorfer are still handmade and are not influenced by Yamaha in quality. Without Yamaha Bösendorfer would have gone bankrupt. But they still build their Pianos on their own.

godriczimmerman yeah

JohnHE And also Seiler still makes hand made pianos in Germany. Even if Samick owns the company.

JohnHE: Yamaha markets Bosendorfer very nicely now. And Yamaha are influenced by Bosendorfer. There are definitely some Bosendorfer qualities that have made their way to some Yamaha pianos. While they sound different, you can certainly detect them in some of Yamaha's grands and some of the uprights sold in Europe.

I agree--Estonia makes a very high-quality piano.

+shaolin95 Well said. I have a digital because I live in an apartment building and want to play late at night. It's adequate for now but an acoustic is totally different in terms of touch and sound.

+shaolin95 Well said. I have a digital because I live in an apartment building and want to play late at night. It's adequate for now but an acoustic is totally different in terms of touch and sound.

+gmwdim thanks and just to clarify like in your situation I would for sure play a digital well. Any good digital piano is better than no piano at all. ☺

Steinway is not the same piano used to be after the 1960 they change to Teflon bearings and creating clicks in their piano.they have since gone back and taken away the Teflon but they are not the same brand and they are actually trying to sell it to a Chinese company right now. Hopefully they will get back to the mark and quality that they used to.be. I would really recommend going to a fazioli and it's an amazing piano

@@robertlulek1634 I have a 1975 L. No clicks. It is a fine, untemperamental instrument.

Jim Hendricks actually, Yamaha grand pianos before 1990 were much better made than the new ones. I found, after looking for 5 years, a mint Yamaha C7. It is incredible! Best piano I’ve played. I’ve played the Steinway in the Steinway gallery in NYC. But who can afford that!?

I don't find the Steinway to have a "better" tone than a good 2010 and newer Yamaha CF grand, or even CX to a degree. Maybe before then, I'd agree. Now the tone is just different. There are big differences, though, in Yamaha's tone from piano to piano. But, the action seems to be consistent. For the most part, the Steinways I hear are in big concert halls, they are usually Hamburgs, and are beautifully prepared. I hear some NY Steinway dogs in venues from time to time, but you get Yamaha dogs in venues too and sometimes on concert stages.

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