Haha

Hahaha geniaal 😂💪🏻

😂

Hahahaha yesssss

😂😂😂😂

Hey hold on a minute you can get good coffee at a coffee shop🤣

Most coffeeshops serve fine coffee, so if you don't mind the smell of weed...

@@DDA532 coffee shops in the Netherlands are places you get weed and other drugs

@@aidenvoois2617 well can you tell me a coffeeshop where i can find the other drugs😂

@@DDA532 not particularly

Most of these type of video's are, such a shame.

Hm, you're right... :( Sad

That's a good thing. We want the tourist to stay in that tourist trap of a city.

@@relo999 not really. city's are overloaded with tourists. they refuse to visit groningen, don't want to stay in zeeland etc.

@@velvetvelvet4899 laat ze maar lekker in Amsterdam, ik hoef ze niet in Groningen

Jaa zelfs levenslange gevangenisstraf lol

@@ridvanuray5684 en voor moord een taakstrafje

@@ridvanuray5684 niet aan het doortrappen? fietsbewijs kwijt en knieschijven weg, nooit meer op een fiets te zien, that's the netherlands

Cycling classes at primary school? Since when? Usually you just get a bicycle when your about 3, when you can walk for a bit. Your parents will teach you for a day or 2 and after that you're on your own. Off you go on your bicycle. That's how it used to be anyway. Cycling class at primary school, that just sounds funny and wrong at the same time

@@luit2tinke My son is in Groep 1 in public school and they have verkeerslessen. They learn road safety and bicycle safety.

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I think this is true for every country

@@vinnieg6161 - Except America where this seems to be the norm

How would you explain our great mood and ability to party then?🤔😜😂

@@boykaunlimitted4514 Alcohol of course!

Neh... we ALL do in the whole of netherlands ;-) Every single day... We have sooo many tourists here that assume this that I was even thinking of putting a board on the door of the windmill I worked in to tell the visitors that the next coffeeshop for that (not just drinking coffee) is not on our island but over 50km away. Could have made a fortune probably with selling that 'stuf' (or end up in jail pretty fast).

@@boykaunlimitted4514 Because between rain there is sunshine!

But we do.

We do brag! Just not about the price. We brag about the discount haha. I had a winter coat that I got for €20 in sale and wore 3 years straight as a student. I bragged a lot in those 3 years.

They did touch on that, it was the "Don't stand out from the crowd." remark.

This is so true!! I bought some shoes at a 40% discount, which was like €70 then. What a steal!! And I'll never stop bragging about the money I saved. Only kakkers brag about money they spent, and I refuse to become a kakker.

Thats litteraly not true.

@@iberlo85 it is where I come from, I hate bragging people. I also hate people who only wear designer clothing.

The canal comment was strange. The water in the canals is refreshed every few days and rarely, if ever, smells bad.

The canals stinking is from a looong time back

@@Jorg05111980 Longer than the guy in the video has been alive for, probably.

I assume the man of that canal comment is confusing Amsterdam with Venice... 🤷‍♂️

@@wildzwaan i agree.. now i live in rotterdam so no canals here but even when visiting Utrecht in the past i never smelled anything bad

He's from India. It's probably normal there.

not in the bin* and yea what the heck. I heard that and I was like "Wait... duh? Isn't that normal for most of the world?"

Maybe the Dutch fines are more serious was his intent? 🤷🏻‍♀️

I was not surprised. I don't know anyone (Dutch) who feels comfortable talking about salary or money in general. Maybe there's a cultural difference between the west (Holland) and the east of the country? And also about age most people don't like to talk (but I don't mind, I'm 66 now)

Yeah, its nuanced: people dont start conversations with 'how much do you get paid', but amongst friends: its a common topic, how much is your income, how much is going to taxes, how much do you take home, not as big a deal as for example in the USA, where it seems you NEVER talk about that.

It is really though. I have no idea what my dad earned or has in savings. I suspect him to be very rich based on his job, but I'll only find out when I get my inheritance.

Half the country works in places where salaries are regulated by collective labour agreements which have tables for functions and experience years. So people in the Netherlands generally know how much their collegues earn and they can guess how much people in similar jobs with similar experience earn in other companies. People with individual contracts usually have better salaries but might have less employee benefits. Most foreign people will be in those jobs I assume.

it changed over time. I know how much all my friends make, but not how much my own parents make. To be honest, I also don't know how much my coworkers make.

If people are still upset over the 2010 WC final they should find a hobby or something, because that's some bullshit grudge to uphold. We got our revenge on Spain 4 years later, just let it go

@@bernardkuiper1496 "people" is men, i think, mostly. I don't know 1 woman who gives a fck about a game from 2010.

Love germans or secretly afraid 😋

If you’re from The Hague you don’t like Germans 😂

@@marjoleinevmv More like Rotterdam lol

yep it relies on the situation.. in amsterdam i defenitely wouldn't do it but in more rural areas it's perfectly fine as long as you keep to the left side so you can easily see any oncoming bikers.. and in some cases there just is no other way.. like how they are building on two sides of the road near here right now forcing you to either take a detour or walk on the bike lane

Basically: use the best option available. If there's no seperate paths or lanes at all, walk on the left side of the road, to ensure you notice oncoming traffic in time to move off the road for a few seconds. If there's only the car lanes and bike paths, the bike paths are the safe option to walk. If there's an extra path for pedestrians, you walk there. Since cities in the Netherlands are built to accommodate every traffic participant, you shouldn't use the bath paths/lanes there. But if you were to visit smaller towns, you'll notice that there are many shared roads, where you'll just have to make sure you stay away of your surroundings.

@JAra complain with your local government. If they're so narrow that it encourages people to use the bike paths instead, it's a design flaw that they need to work on to encourage safety.

@@nonexistingvoid this is probably in a more rural area. There the bike lanes have 2 functions, one; bike lane, and 2; footpath. And they're not as well kept (or red) like in the cities. Also, in places you will see bike lanes on the car roads, one on either side, making up about 2/5ths of the total road width of the road. (If there are cyclists on both lanes then only one car can fit through safely, but two cars and one bike fit)

@@nanogalactic6016 I'm from a rural area myself, and complaining about these things with your local government should work. It's a safety issue if the available sidewalks are too narrow to walk on, or so poorly kept that people'd rather avoid them. If there's no sidewalk or bike path/lane, you could ask your local government if it's possible for them to add those, if the roads are too unsafe without them. Or even just a lower speed limit, which isn't uncommon either.

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@@auttark9815 there's an entrance and an exit. Don't exit from the entrance.

@@drantigon the tram doesnt? its all the same door

Yes that is mostly in Amsterdam. The first time me and my cousins made the same mistake. We are from Rotterdam.

Lol I tried too the other day, but was yelled at immediately 😂

Unless they actually went to zh or nh... Most ppl view Amsterdam as the Netherlands, so then it could be fine if they went there. Buy yeah, just say "The Netherlands"

Ja leuke video

exactly, it's pretty damn close to english aswell was what i thought. although middle english may actually be a bit closer than modern english in that regard on its face. with phrases like "Do What Thou Wilt" (dutch: "doe wat je wil"), that would problably be preferably construed as "do AS you please/wish/will" instead these days, albeit still likely not being technically wrong the old way, stylistic choice evolved a lot, middle english tends to apply more similar stylistic choices to dutch. archaic english: "hold fast" -> (dutch: "hou(d) vast"), modern english would say "hold on (to)", the word fast for secured/ is kind of old hat and out of style in it's original form words like "fasten" are still used in american english for securing things, mostly seatbelts specifically , so there's remnants all over the place but it's a big old context/subject sensitive mishmash of several words now for what is essentially the same action, whereas dutch stuck to "vast" and its derivatives (stuck is one of the definitions of "vast" lol) but Dutch has a lot of overlap with modern English due to french and latin words that were adopted along the way into both languages aswell, and many those words are technically Dutch and English as they were accepted in the dictionaries for their respective languages, there's plenty of overlap with words that are not of germanic origin, so certain sentences can very often be more than halfway mutually intelligible beyond just the germanic roots. so they never really seemed to drift apart too far from one another because of those shared traits as time went on. what i do find odd though, is the fact that dutch people speaking english sound WAY more like american english than english english, and we saw plenty of british TV back in the day, you'd imagine we would sound more like brits speaking english, we don't, we sound way more american-ish, although we may pop in and out of using the british A sound every so often.

@@dutchdykefinger i think the accent thing might have to do with our regular accent already either that or it might have to do with the fact that the people that moved to america did also have a ton of dutch people amongst them.. especially after WWII since a lot of jewish survivors either left during or after the war was over.. many of them would have naturally been german or dutch hearing from their family that it might be dangerous to stay or just deciding to leave because it felt safer to go to america after the war than to stay.. and of course the first waves of immigrants also came from all over europe with people from the UK,the netherlands,Germany,Belgium,France etc moving there (though i'd guess the french mostly went to canada instead wich could explain the different variation in their accent aswell) and especially since New york was originally New Amsterdam it could just be a case of generational passing down yet since so many accents were heard back then the most prevalent in said area most likely took the cake in forming the many american accents there are..

Dutch is pretty much German Light

@@boblangefeld9801 Only if speaking specifically from the perspective of an anglophone. Dutch lies between English and German. So an English speaker would find that the main difference between Dutch and German is that German is more unfamiliar and different.

1x moesten ze een fietsenwinkel opbellen. Maar in een meer relaxte sfeer zou wel leuker zijn ja.

Gewoon fake gedoe

@@redfishswimming Als het de moeite niet waard was waren ze niet op cursus bij hem. Of ben je vergeten wie dit kanaal runt om je domme statement te maken?

u mean all those immigrants that scream through their phones? ye i agree

Dutchies and Danes are quite similar, mentality-wise. Actually, an anthropologist found that Dutch & Danish people share way more cultural traits than e.g. Dutch and Flemish people, in spite of the language we share with the latter. Cheers from Amsterdam!

I think it we talk about it, but just more with friends and not with outsiders.

I don't agree. Some of my best friends don't want to talk about salaries either. It's really a taboo topic in The Netherlands

@@Hephaestus83 Oddly enough I know the salaries of the vast majority of my friends and family. No one cares if you know.

It highly varies across social circles and jobs. COA-covered jobs often have regulated salaries, so then it's hardly a secret anyway. But other segments it's more contentious.

I think this might be a regional thing. I live in the north and have never encountered anyone not wanting to answer that question, also personally would tell anyone who would like to know. Maybe it being a tabboo topic is more of a western thing.

Actually Danish is much more related to Dutch than German.

@@zinazina6367 Is it really? To me it feels more between German and Norwegian/Swedish. I have an easier time understanding German than understanding Danish.

@@hellomynameisjoenl Probably because you get German at school and not Danish 😉

@@zinazina6367 That’s well possible, but it still feels farther removed.

@@hellomynameisjoenl I know during a vacation in Denmark that I decided to do some baking. I followed the recipe on the backside of the packaging and the only thing I had to look up was gær, yeast (nl: gist), although it would have been my first guess without the translation based on the sentence. Written Danish and Dutch read quite similarly, altough spoken is another story. Although it can help that I know German and knowing two Germanic languages can help translate a third

well it's kinda very obvious isn't it? a thin red path with a bicycle sign on it.

I would say: ga van het fietspad af gore teringlul de volgende keer rij ik je aan!

@@SmolWeeblet Well, kinda it isn't, since you're *supposed* to walk on the bike path if a foot path is unavailable.

@@darkfoxxbunyip yes but most of the time that isn't the case except if you walk next to an 80km/h road or a highway.

Whuhaha

Many Dutch people still are 'traumatised' from WW2, even when they're born after it ended. I know people of about my age (born in the 1950s / 1960s) who still feel some kind of hate because their grandparents' bicycles were confiscated by the German army during 'the war' ... I do not have such feelings.

@@ingeleonora-denouden6222 not only that it might also be a football thing since if anyone is seen as a rival during world cups or europe cups it's always germany

If German was the same as Dutch it wouldn't be called different. So stupid dumb to think this way

@@litchtheshinigami8936 it's the other way around I think

Indeed. Unless the Dutchie dislikes football don't talk about 1974.

The sidewalk is no place for bikes and anyone who has ever cycled (I guess that does not include the people who put bicycle lanes on side walks) knows that.

@@klapsigaarenbasgitaar1931 It is though, but you need to know the place you want to do it. I know loads of pedestrian paths that are used also as bike paths (granted most are either because it cuts off loads a route or avoids a somewhat dangerous part of the road and in all cases actual pedestrians are rare there and easily spotted). Certainly shouldn't be treated as standard though.

In Holland, you can walk on bicycle lanes, but you NEVER cycle on pedestrian lanes

@@SamsungGalaxy-vz6khIn NL It's illegal to cycle on the sidewalk.

And Germans too because they don't have it anymore. Somehow they want our king and many here want a president ;-)

Americans are obsessed with everything, as long they can make a fortune out of it. 🙄

How is this relevant to The Netherlands?

@@iberlo85 since we are a kingdom (which sind the current 'domme king' - sorry Dutch...) has an extra meaning. And it was mentioned in the video.

Did you shake it first?

@@PetraStaal I should have to make it worth it 😂 nope, the slight 'pffft' sound was enough to get attention

@@PetraStaal it’s pretty common but official it’s forbidden to eat or drink in a bus or tram. I wouldn’t think it would be a big problem here in the south. Last week I was out with my nephew and treated him with ice cream it took to long so the bus would arrive in about ten minutes so I ordered him to store it in his lunchbox for a few minutes. The bus was late and gave him a chance to eat some of it but while doing that we’ve missed the bus (while he could see us just missing it) and due to vacation schedules we needed to wait for thirty minutes. But otherwise I would think it wasn’t a big problem for others. In traffic hours you’ll see people eating their lunch and drinking whatever.

Whuhaha

never had that issue before.. but that might just be because i don't give a rat's ass, if i'm thirsty you bet i'm gonna drink ! then again most of the time as long as you don't litter it's no problem at all.. like recently i had a can of energy drink and went into the bus nobody said anything not even the driver. once it was empty i kept it and threw it away in a trashcan outside

Work culture is very different though. As you said more strict. Much more hierarchical. And of course less humor. But in general more polite.

Was yr grandfather jewish? Sry if it sounds weird

hahaha, I relate to this so much. I would be at a friend's house and they would ask when I planned to leave as they were about to have dinner. My usual response at first was that I could wait upstairs, but that didn't fly with them

We dont buy extra food bc usualy it goes in the bin

@@sirradez Why would you wait upstairs? That's so weird

@@meganversteeg61 I guess you're dutch. My reasoning is that I'd rather stay upstairs and wait for my friend to finish dinner so we can hang out afterwards instead of going home for 20 - 30 minutes, without eating, only to return afterwards. Especially since a lot of dutch people eat at 17:00 (which is really early in my opinion)

Ive been invited to eat as a kid on a play date quite often. Guess its just a personal experience and not a culture thing then

Yes! The eastern part of the Netherlands is much more interesting. Nature, castles, nice old towns and villages, windmills (even some watermills!). The west is only interesting for the architecture and 'horeca' (hotels, cafés, restaurants)

People should see the north

It seems to me that it's because much of the rest of the world has a pretty clear image of the Germans (whether it's accurate or not is another story), but people don't know much about the Dutch, and see them as like Germans. So the Dutch image among foreigners is defined by the German image, with people ascribing to the Dutch things which are actually only German characteristics, while being oblivious to most Dutch characteristics which don't fit the German sterotype. So the dutch are annoyed by this and therefore deny any similarity between them and Germans, and are prone to object whenever a foreigner compares them to Germans in any way, thus the mention in the video. What do you think about that?

@@leandrog2785 I think it's because of WW2.

@@thematriarchy2075 Not at all. Not many people are alive these days that have experienced it.

@@iberlo85 You don't have to experience something in order to have vooroordelen about others. I am 50 and most definitely grew up with hearing vooroordelen about German people and that was because of the war.

@@iberlo85 If we continue to celebrate the 5th of May the memory will stay alive, don't you think?

Lol Amsterdam is the most toxic place in the country. Full of terrible people and racists. Also Holland is only a small part of the country..

Well one taboo ! Don't say Holland, it's the Netherlands! 😱🤨😅

I don't live in Holland FFS. Or did you mean to say that anyone outside of Holland doesn't matter ? In that case : screw you. If you didn't mean to say that, then what did you mean ? I'm pretty intolerant when people call my country 'Holland'. If you don't know the difference between 'Holland' and 'the Netherlands', use the NETHERLANDS ! .. .. calling the UK : England, would be the same thing. It is needless diminishing the importance of other parts of said country.

thats so true i'm one of those guys that doesnt belong in crowds!

@@redfishswimming You can turn that around, we tolerate what doesn't impact us. Meanwhile it's pretty normal for both people and politics in loads of other countries to get mad about things that doesn't impact them in the slightest. Also talking finance isn't remotely a taboo, maybe it is in the Randstad. IDK. But the Randstad, especially Amsterdam, is at this point really only Dutch by the technicality of being located in the country.

I quite like the funny comparison with bikes and guns.At the same time, it is metaphorical and creative;)

Its not normal and quite annoying actually

@@iberlo85 Is gewoon normaal hier.

Visit Amsterdam to see the museums, the canals, the history, and great restaurants. To not visit Amsterdam would be stupid. But, yes, you must then get out into other places to see smaller towns, and the countryside.

@@hrussell9677 there a more museums and historical places in The Netherlands so I agree, for once people, don't go to Amsterdam because it's not really 'dutch' (don't get me wrong I was born in Amsterdam and lived all over The Netherlands so I just know 🤫)

@@hrussell9677 Amsterdam sucks.... it's a terrible place to be. Nothing stupid it about it. Our big cities are in decline.

The people who don't like Zwarte Piet or think it's racist are typically not people who grew up with it or know the story behind it. Nobody had a problem with it until Quinsy Gario en Jerry Afriyie started their protests in 2011 and then all of a sudden Zwarte Piet had to go. The people who think Zwarte Pieten were slaves are wrong. They were not slaves. Sinterklaas actually freed them and out of gratitude they stayed with him. I was born in 1964 and I've only ever learned that Zwarte Pieten were helpers or aides.

I know there are people who like it and people who don't, i just wanted to say that not *all* of us are exited about it ( more as in stating the fact) and also, u dutch too?

Of te wel moeilijk doen omdat het kan. Niet iets wat Nederlands is maar menselijk.

Nee als in de vraag, ben je Nederlands? Maar je spreekt Nederlands dus ik denk ja..? 😅🧐

@@I-LOVE-SHARKS-123 ja sorry ik dacht die vraag voor iemand anders was die zijn comment had verwijdert excuses

I agree. And I never knew how much money my old mother (widowed) had on her bank account until I saw it by accident ... She always said: 'er is genoeg' (there's plenty of it)

Same! I was very confused. Because the language is so similar that we can understand them most of the time. I think most Dutch people don’t get angry over this.

@@inepiny3067 I do. I hate the german language so it makes me quite annoyed when they say it's ''pretty much the same''

@@meganversteeg61 Well it is. Deal with it despite your personal feelings.

Really? Honestly I experience the opposite. A thing you believe takes 5 minutes to discuss could become 30-minutes discussion when speaking with Dutch colleagues. On the other hand I’m always impressed how Dutch could create a whole story out of nothing.

Depends on the person. Some people dont like directness and some people do.

I've entertained many friends from many different cultures/countries and all of them kept saying how incredibly relaxed the NL is over all. After they've gotten past the directness at least :P

@@shoelacedonkey lol. Maybe it’s a really relaxed for tourists. Amongst the inhabitants of NL it’s a popular opinion that they find living and working in NL pretty stressful. In the end it’s always a perfect place to live; yet it still draws a stressful society

As different as it can be? So would you say that the French and Swedes are more similar to each other? What about Spaniards and Germans? Brits and Greeks? Obviously, among all possible pairs of European nations, the Dutch and Germans would be very near the top of the list of most similar. But the Dutch get butthurt by any comparison between them and Germans, because since Germany is far more well-known internationally, foreigners (including tourists in the Netherlands) very frequently view the Dutch as "like Germans but with some differences". It's of course understandable that they would be annoyed by having their image be defined by that, but denying any similarity between Dutch and Germans is ridiculous and irrational.

@@leandrog2785 don't forget that most Dutch grandparents (and their parents) witnessed and experienced the 2nd world war up from very close. (Both my dad's and mother's side of the family for example had to leave their homes for more than a year since they were living in a heavy warzone.) Hundreds of thousands of Dutch families back then had an extreme deep hatred against the Germans because of everything they experienced and lost. This hatred is almost completely gone nowadays, but i think this might be one of the many reasons why Dutch people don't like to be associated with Germans. While Germans have a lot in common, they are definitely very different in many aspects. If anything, the Dutch people should be associated with the northern Belgian (Flemish) people. They literally speak Dutch with a few twisted words and a bit different accent, but for the rest the country is almost the same. Just a little bit less organised/modern infrastructure. So answering your question; no the Germans are not the closest related to the Dutch, that's definitely the Belgian people. It's called the Benelux for a reason.

@@joostinatortje For both countries something can be said. Its not on or the other. Belgium speak 'dutch' with a heavy accent, but the rest of country is french and a bit german as well. Overall Germany is culturally more related id say.

@@joostinatortje There is nothing worse than being associated with the Germans, except for being associated with the Belgians.

@@leandrog2785 Ever heard of a hyperbole?

Not by mine don’t like the physical contact

Ja verwant maar niet hetzelfde!! Als dat zo was waarom bestaat er dan Duitsland/Nederland en Duitse taal/Nederlandse taal?! Je zegt toch ook niet dat Pools en Russisch hetzelfde is?

But by being direct you are not standing out in the Netherlands, you’re just like everybody else 😂

I was in Belgium last time ( im dutch) i said to so many people hi,hey,hoe gaat het 95% ignored me stupid people

Ze dachten waarschijnlijk dat je iets wou verkopen. Ik glimlach en knik naar iedereen die ik kruis, wordt vooral door ouderen geapprecieerd. Meestal als ik in Nederland ben beantwoord men mijn vragen in het Engels.

@@skralann123 als ze zoude lache ( in de goede manier en daarmee bedoel ik niet denigrerend wat ik ze niet zie doen hoor) dan was het ook geen probleem hoor maar ze waren ook allemaal chagrijnig nogmaals niet allemaal maar meeste die ik op dat moment heb aan gesproken waren dat wel helaas

@@DDA532 kan er mij iets bij voorstellen ☺️

Yes, but just short enough to be able to greet someone on the other side of the window with a small gesture. Not longer, that would be weird.

Only from the inside out!

@@ingeleonora-denouden6222 Yes, Inge!

I can't agree more 😉

And what’s all that diversity going to bring the Dutch nation ? Our country is taken away from us. The Dutch, no not passports, ethnicity, so Germanic/Batavian, need to adept to others. Even at university Dutch students can’t study in their own language, as anywhere else, but in order to please foreign students, all lessons are given in English. Dutch girls, living a free life, are being harassed on the streets, gays beaten up, racist crime against the indigenous is rampant and coloring a map red with countries who practice FGM you now need to color Holland red as well. In the meantime indigenous Dutch are becoming aboriginals in their own country, have no solidarity among themselves, individualized and not protected. BLM yes, WLM no. Watch ‘opsporing verzocht’ (crime program). Against Dutch, the racism is never mentioned. Dutch are now outlaws. Look at Dutch swimmingpools.

ok globalist. every european coutnry needs to be BLACK!!!

Thats litteraly not true.

@@iberlo85 - You still let your daughters go to a public swimming pool ?!

yeah, but don't compare Dutch people to German people because we aren't fine with that lol

But Dutch people are in fact Germans. So what's wrong with that?

@@SmolWeeblet I don't think anybody I know would mind that. I think the german/dutch rivalry was a thing for the older generations.

@@RubenBunskoeke I don't like being called German, we're very different and it's obvious.

I always will remember one quote from one smart Dutch writer, Gerard Reve: "De Nederlander denkt dat hij verschrikkelijk lollig en verschrikkelijk intelligent is, maar de Nederlander is eigenlijk een soort Duitser, die zich verbeeldt dat hij geen Duitser is omdat hij melk drinkt." [The Dutchman thinks he is incredibly funny and incredibly intelligent, but the Dutchman is actually a kind of German, who imagines that he is not a German because he drinks milk."] And about languages: Dutch is link between English ang German with lot of Roman (in particular French) loanwords.

you mean those immigrants that scream trough their phone every where? ye i agree

​@yourealittlebitfat4344 especially in the stiltecoupé

Nope don’t go there…😏

There are many differences between Dutch and German people in social rules!

We are similar of course, but there are also many differences. I might have to move to Germany but I'm definitely not looking forward to being surrounded by Germans. They're all a bit too stiff and serious imo

As a Dutch person, I fitted in quite well in a village in Lower Saxony, Germany. But we moved to a village in North-Rhine Westphalia. What a difference! We don't fit in here at all! Most of the Germans in North-Rhine Westphalia are not friendly to foreigners, not open for others. They ignore you. The don't consider your needs, just their own. We are in MAJOR culture shock and absolutely detest it here. Alas, we need to stay probably at least 5 more years. I hate it here!!! Help!!! So no, don't you ever dare to compare horrid Germany to the much friendlier Netherlands. If you drop dead besides them, they'd be inconvenienced.

@@annemariecandyflip6531 not that many