What Are The Watchers In The Dark? - 40K Theories

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4 жыл бұрын

The Watchers in The Dark are well known for their association with the Dark Angels. But just what could these diminutive creatures actually be?
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@DharkDemonBlade
@DharkDemonBlade 4 жыл бұрын
As a Deathknight of the Dark Angel, after multiple encounters with these Watchers... I'm convinced they work for the ancient Terran entity know as Santa, for they know if we've been nice or naughty...
@FrstSpctr88
@FrstSpctr88 4 жыл бұрын
Then the bigger question is, who is The Santa in 40k universe?
@wanderer8135
@wanderer8135 4 жыл бұрын
@@FrstSpctr88 do we want the answer? All races have a "santa" and chaos has four, nurgle being the nastiest bearer of gifts
@DharkDemonBlade
@DharkDemonBlade 4 жыл бұрын
FrstSpctr88 that’s inconsequential, just remember, you better watch out, you better not cry, cuz Santa is coming tonight... *charges Plasma Gun*
@mr.joesterr5359
@mr.joesterr5359 4 жыл бұрын
Wanderer bearer of “gifts”
@brotheralaric7177
@brotheralaric7177 4 жыл бұрын
@@wanderer8135 personnaly i prefer Santa Lucius ^^
@seanread5556
@seanread5556 4 жыл бұрын
short? stealthy? wear a lot of green cloaks? havers of all number of random shinies and nick-nacks? hobbits. those are space hobbits
@Eduardobarthwe
@Eduardobarthwe 4 жыл бұрын
Aaaand my liking of the watchers increased by 200% now.
@mr.depressed886
@mr.depressed886 4 жыл бұрын
More like benevolent grimdark Jawa’s
@OmegaLittleBob
@OmegaLittleBob 4 жыл бұрын
Spobbits!!!!!
@brogineertherealone9568
@brogineertherealone9568 4 жыл бұрын
*Ratlings
@MeepChangeling
@MeepChangeling 3 жыл бұрын
Except, Hobbits DONT like to collect shinies and nicknacks. Please go read the Hobbit and LToR again. Bilbo and Frodo are HUUUUUGE exceptions to the cultural norm. You are thinking of Dragonlance and Kinder.
@harrysmith1711
@harrysmith1711 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Angel: *Fights Chaos* Watcher in the Dark: "Help you I can"
@Rishkar-Peema-Pants
@Rishkar-Peema-Pants 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Angels = Chaos
@karlfranz310
@karlfranz310 4 жыл бұрын
Watchers in the dark=yoda
@Rishkar-Peema-Pants
@Rishkar-Peema-Pants 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlfranz310 Yoda = grot
@karlfranz310
@karlfranz310 4 жыл бұрын
@@Rishkar-Peema-Pants Chaos = Bitch
@kanadashyuugo873
@kanadashyuugo873 Жыл бұрын
Are they small compared to men or just astartes? Yoda wouldn't make a demon run. "Hello, I'm the Doctor, your planet appears to have become a spaceship, which odd as it seems is not as rare as you'd think."
@zenoblues7787
@zenoblues7787 4 жыл бұрын
I find it highly concerning the Dark Angels themselves don't have an exact answer to this question.
@CharlesUrban
@CharlesUrban 4 жыл бұрын
If they do, you _know_ they won't tell anyone.
@majordakka5743
@majordakka5743 4 жыл бұрын
What can you expect from a bunch of closet traitors hunting their own brethren?
@kelborhal2576
@kelborhal2576 4 жыл бұрын
That we know of.
@iamalpharius9483
@iamalpharius9483 4 жыл бұрын
Ask the Inquisition.
@zenoblues7787
@zenoblues7787 4 жыл бұрын
@@kelborhal2576 They know where Lion El Johnson is and Azreal doesn't. If they can keep that a secret from the Dark Angels. They can probably keep their true nature whatever it is hidden without much difficulty.
@MrTilldaddy
@MrTilldaddy 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously they are magical Squats.
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 4 жыл бұрын
Magical Squats... Chaos Squats!!! HERESY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Caercutta30
@Caercutta30 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertnelson9599 Eeeee-Viiiill!!!
@brotheralaric7177
@brotheralaric7177 4 жыл бұрын
i was thinking more like magical ratlings.
@Yawbus1976
@Yawbus1976 4 жыл бұрын
Dammit, came to the comments to say exactly the same thing! Too slow, again.
@HighlanderFrag4Life
@HighlanderFrag4Life 4 жыл бұрын
omg Yes!
@evilbumblebee667
@evilbumblebee667 4 жыл бұрын
Their null warp presence is likely how they are keeping the fate of the lion hidden... if chaos and really the imperium cannot detect his life despite the fact he is sleeping, they probably keep him that way because the watchers know how the chaos gods would react if another Primarch were to rejoin the imperium.
@stevanlezaja4203
@stevanlezaja4203 4 жыл бұрын
WHOAH! I love this comment
@jackdaalfbrainork6392
@jackdaalfbrainork6392 4 жыл бұрын
evilbumblebee667 if guilliman is not a prime example for shit hitting the fan badly The I can’t tell what would happen if lion comes back...
@670HP-Package-NOW
@670HP-Package-NOW 4 жыл бұрын
@Bazzralic in 40k the answer to that question is always yes
@messageinthebottle1673
@messageinthebottle1673 3 жыл бұрын
I love this comment ❤
@alexandertheok5649
@alexandertheok5649 Жыл бұрын
Well he did come back
@onairwithjarvis
@onairwithjarvis 4 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine these things as, for lack of better terms, 'Angels of the Dark'. The true 'Dark Angels' who watch over these space marines
@thatlonewolfguy2878
@thatlonewolfguy2878 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh I like this theory
@DismemberTheAlamo
@DismemberTheAlamo 4 жыл бұрын
watch over... secretly control... same difference :P
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
That would imply Altruism. Which is as dead as Peace, Discovery, Innovation, Science, and Freewill. All are dead and buried in 40k, never to be seen again.
@CCSI322
@CCSI322 4 жыл бұрын
Niiiiice
@themecoptera9258
@themecoptera9258 3 жыл бұрын
@@tawnykyle-cm5eq god emperor I hope that one isn’t cannon
@Variann
@Variann 4 жыл бұрын
Insane answer. They are in-refuge Old Ones, trying to assist their greatest chance at victory.
@difficultbastard
@difficultbastard 4 жыл бұрын
I was thing maybe that, or one of their creations to fight the Necrons. The negative warp seems to imply otherwise though.
@nrais76
@nrais76 4 жыл бұрын
That's one of the things I was thinking. Ultimately, though, they're GW's Arthurian-ish Deus Ex Machina.
@wazzup1629
@wazzup1629 4 жыл бұрын
Ok but why help the dark angels and not the space wolves
@kenju2268
@kenju2268 4 жыл бұрын
@@wazzup1629 Because they aren't furry enough for the Wolves to accept.
@richardharrison4762
@richardharrison4762 4 жыл бұрын
Seems a bit beneath a ancient entity to be subject to carrying a helmet around?
@gagetaylor54
@gagetaylor54 4 жыл бұрын
Remleiz: “What are the Watchers in the Dark?” Me: Adorable.
@mikebott6940
@mikebott6940 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment.
@VoiceOfTheEmperor
@VoiceOfTheEmperor 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Wait...Oh, it's a play on words, right?
@muglypunt968
@muglypunt968 4 жыл бұрын
Not it's because there is literally like 4 paragraphs of lore of the watchers appearing and communicating, like literally nothing to go off
@ryanvm9728
@ryanvm9728 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe instead of nullifying warp, their true power is actually sucking in all warp energy in their immediate vicinity... like a kind of warp vampire. They hate the warp maybe because of their dependence on it and would seek to destroy it instead of revelling in it.
@Lamthesavender
@Lamthesavender 4 жыл бұрын
Oooooooh, thats a tasty brain nugget
@Cernumospete
@Cernumospete 4 жыл бұрын
But. Would they actually follow a similar principle like the Necron Nexi on Cadia?
@revanati222
@revanati222 4 жыл бұрын
"We are the watchers in the dark" "Ni!" "Shhh! Do not say it! Ahh! I said it! Ahh! I said it again! Ahhh!!!"
@moriskurth628
@moriskurth628 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Watchers aren't Daemons but rather just Warp-born creatures, not unlike Enslavers, with their Blank-like invisibility towards other Warp-Entities just being some sort of "natural" Camouflage. Think Octupi or various Insects here on Earth, just Sapient and with added Warp-Weirdness, allowing the Watchers to stay hidden from daemonic predators. This would also explain how they are able to stay in the material world, without any Warp Portals or host bodies that Daemons usually need to maintain a physical form, as they are just a material species that evolved in the Immaterium, again, similar to the Enslavers, if different in nature.
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
Caliban seems to have been an Artificial satellite created to house the Ouroboros and the *Tuchulcha* those things that they call the Watchers could be an Artificial species created as caretakers. It could also explain how Caliban became a Death World, as I SERIOUSLY doubt Dark Age humans would colonize a Death World intentionally.
@Cernumospete
@Cernumospete 4 жыл бұрын
There is one thing we already know what is madness inducing when looked at, but not by Chaos or the warp or all it's playgrounds. It is said that they are madness inducing because they and their... followers? spawns? underlings? Bah! ..., because they show those that look upon them the truth, pure unadultered truth, the truth that one doesn't count. That one is as insignificant, everyone is as insignificant in the grand time of cosmos... And the Elder Beings, the Old Ones that shielded and fought against them. Against these beings of Order.
@sexybeardedvikingwizardthe4746
@sexybeardedvikingwizardthe4746 4 жыл бұрын
It'd be funny as hell if they were the equivalent of Nilbogs, goblins with an antiwaagh that translates to being a blank.
@TheMalkavianmadman
@TheMalkavianmadman 4 жыл бұрын
Could they be creatures of the pre chaos warp? The null effect being simply a calming effect of uncorrupted warp energy?
@56thvraksgrenadierregiment72
@56thvraksgrenadierregiment72 2 жыл бұрын
I would agree except that creatures with such power would probably want to bring the warp back to it’s original state, and therefore would have little to no reason to be with the dark angels, especially considering the how distrusting the dark angels are unless some part of the dark angels are required to complete their goal.
@SangTheCryptek
@SangTheCryptek 4 жыл бұрын
An episode dedicated to the Cabal itself would be great. Maybe some speculation as to the other species that are part of it.
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
How about how someone who was supposed to be intelligent, falling for the absolute bullshit Grammaticus fed him. Alpharius believing the lies of the Cabal was and is one of the worst written reasons as to why the Alpha Legion rebelled.
@RevantheBlack
@RevantheBlack 4 жыл бұрын
If my eyes aren’t tricking me, the Cabal has Necrons in it, I second this episode request
@SangTheCryptek
@SangTheCryptek 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrTurbowhitey Being shown the future (in fact more than merely shown, but felt and experienced, as the book describes) is a far, far cry than someone telling you something and subsequently believing it.
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
@@SangTheCryptek he was shown A future, not THE Future. And as we all know, a future that was total bullshit.
@allster0crowly
@allster0crowly 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrTurbowhitey not one that was total bs, but one that through knowing made them over confident and led to the future we now have in 40k , "in knowing future one does try to understand the strings and gears needed to truly enact said future as it has already been shown to them, in seeing it they blinded themselves to the truth, a choice is required in all things, if one only follows and does not choose they will always fail"
@montgumryburns4868
@montgumryburns4868 4 жыл бұрын
Your the best at breaking down some of the more esoteric 40k lore.
@meganobgutzkraka2398
@meganobgutzkraka2398 4 жыл бұрын
"OF! ALL! THE! WATCHERS! ON! THE! ROCK! WHY! DO I! GET! ONE! THAT! TALKS!" *repeadtedly stomping said talking watcher*
@thegradyfiles3272
@thegradyfiles3272 3 жыл бұрын
Because you are completely insane. And you have been sentenced to be gun down by several inquisitors.
@Penguinmustache
@Penguinmustache 4 жыл бұрын
Ascended oompa loompas
@SantiagoHernandez-nx2um
@SantiagoHernandez-nx2um 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@silvermarksman6834
@silvermarksman6834 4 жыл бұрын
Oompa Loompa Doopity Doop I sense heresy inside of you
@mediocremouse405
@mediocremouse405 4 жыл бұрын
Your heresy offends the corpse God ahem I mean the emperor
@Salvo11
@Salvo11 4 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean -Primaris-?
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 4 жыл бұрын
... Could they be to Eldar what Ratlings are to humans? I mean probably not, but, the idea of Eldar having divergent sub-species in WH40K just like humans is now interesting to me.
@Luciffrit
@Luciffrit 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what those big ugly sludge monsters who worship some of the Eldar gods are supposed to be?
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luciffrit I'm not deeply familiar enough with 40K lore to know what you're referring to, I admit.
@Luciffrit
@Luciffrit 3 жыл бұрын
@@firockfinion3326 I think they're called the Hrud? 40k theories has done a video on them before. They are the furtherest thing you could think of from an Eldar.
@firockfinion3326
@firockfinion3326 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luciffrit After checking the video on Hrud, it does kind of sound like Hrud were maybe once Eldar that got horrifically mutated, yeah.
@daswordofgork9823
@daswordofgork9823 4 жыл бұрын
OUT. OF. ALL. THE. WATCHERS. IN. THE. ROCK. WHY. DO. I. GET. ONE. THAT. TALKS!
@PANCAKEMINEZZ
@PANCAKEMINEZZ 4 жыл бұрын
Was searching for this reference
@lexex2550
@lexex2550 4 жыл бұрын
"Azrael! There's blood all over the floor now! I really don't want to get that on my armour. It's all murky, probably stain easily"
@brandonaughtman9091
@brandonaughtman9091 4 жыл бұрын
The God of the Greater God, Isha, The Emperor, Ynnead, and now The Watchers in the Dark. It appears that GOOD Forces of Chaos are starting to rise.
@magicalsealand5076
@magicalsealand5076 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for this universe's version of sigmar squad
@dontuseyourcellulardata7599
@dontuseyourcellulardata7599 4 жыл бұрын
Ah shit here we go again
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
The "Greater Good" is a synonym for slavery Isha is the literal reason why so many planets are infected by fatasses plagues. Ynnead is supposed to arrive when the Eldar are basically dead And the Watchers in the Dark are more suspicious than the Dark Angels, and that's saying something.
@captainanopheles4307
@captainanopheles4307 4 жыл бұрын
The Emperor is good?
@brandonaughtman9091
@brandonaughtman9091 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainanopheles4307 I see your point.
@donperez8774
@donperez8774 4 жыл бұрын
From a decoded vox recording obtained by the Blood Ravens, of Traitor Primarch Konrad Curze (estimated to be shortly before his possible assassination): "I've been asked, what pissed off the Lion when I last spoke with him, as we were initially on good speaking terms when we met, despite being foes in Horus' hissy fit. I asked him, I just needed to know how he scored his Jawas. 'I KEEP TELLING YOU, YOU CRAZY F__K, THEY'RE NOT JAWAS DAMMIT!' he shouted back. "'Well, I mean Orko here does look like-' and it went downhill after he cut me off, then tried to cut me. "O Lion-O, you can be a biatchy thunderkitty when pushed."
@lolbots686
@lolbots686 2 жыл бұрын
in a night lords hideout sevatar after watching it:...huh. weird. *calls cypher* cypher:wasssssup sev sev:hey uh question your a dark angel right? you got any clue what the fuck the watchers in the dark are cypher:not really,why? sev:well after stealing and watching a vox recording concerning our dads konrad asked lion what the actual hell are these star wars jawa motherfuckers i figured,ya know being a mysterious and surprisingly smart bastard youd know something cypher:i mean i could infiltrate the dark angels and ask. anyway,bye
@sanguiniusonvacation1803
@sanguiniusonvacation1803 4 жыл бұрын
You've heard of the lollipop guild ? Well this is the licorice league .
@Caercutta30
@Caercutta30 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh
@FrstSpctr88
@FrstSpctr88 4 жыл бұрын
Go back to sleep Sanguinius, you've eaten too many warp-burgers!
@sanguiniusonvacation1803
@sanguiniusonvacation1803 4 жыл бұрын
FrstSpctr88 mmmm Heretic Böager
@trynox4fun259
@trynox4fun259 4 жыл бұрын
Buddy when you gona go back to "Saving the Galaxy" job?
@mr.joesterr5359
@mr.joesterr5359 4 жыл бұрын
league of licorice
@unintentionallydramatic
@unintentionallydramatic 4 жыл бұрын
They're probably the last project of the Old Ones designed to fight the Enslaver Plague. They were just too little too late.
@oldeskul
@oldeskul 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the watchers in the dark were the original pre-human inhabitants of Caliban and its proximity to the eye of terror caused them to develop unique abilities to fighting chaos.
@iamalpharius9483
@iamalpharius9483 4 жыл бұрын
Jawa Psychers incapable of being harmed by "normal" means...... Like ANY weapon in 40k would ever make it onto a "Normal" list.
@williamward4117
@williamward4117 4 жыл бұрын
These Jawa psykers will be the bane of servitors and Adeptus Mechanicum tech priests, they will soon experience cases of missing toasters/arms/mechanic eyes etc
@iamalpharius9483
@iamalpharius9483 4 жыл бұрын
See, this dude gets it?
@iamalpharius9483
@iamalpharius9483 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamward4117 they will be lighting more incense and rubbing more oil on each other than catchimg those little MFers for SURE.
@mediocremouse405
@mediocremouse405 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder if the stryxis can hurt them
@iamalpharius9483
@iamalpharius9483 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a cyclone missel battery could hurt them.
@palpadur1112
@palpadur1112 4 жыл бұрын
who will watch the Watchers? and who do the Watchers watch? woah.... that's *deep.* oh and... The Emperor broke before Caliban did!! Caliban Stands!!
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 4 жыл бұрын
Who watches the Watchmen
@SantiagoHernandez-nx2um
@SantiagoHernandez-nx2um 4 жыл бұрын
For me they are super cute mini squires for the champions of the chapter
@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082
@yudhiadhyatmikosiswono9082 4 жыл бұрын
Did i sense heresy on your word ?
@seanpeacock4290
@seanpeacock4290 4 жыл бұрын
Who watches the watchers who watch the watchmen?
@Pandyttv
@Pandyttv 4 жыл бұрын
Heresy
@Dima072181
@Dima072181 4 жыл бұрын
There is a simple answer as to what they might be, we have through the Heresy confirmed that the Watchers have Guarded the Ouroboros (Daemon within Caliban) since the planet was formed. In all likelihood the watchers are an evolutionary off-shoot of the Old Ones, specifically due to their negative psionic presence and ability to travel between the corporeal realm and the warp. If you consider that even within your own video they spoke of cultivating the civilization on Caliban, doesn't sound extremely similar to how the Old Ones were "Cultivating species" for their wars and experiments? Warsmith Dmitry(Phobos Tir) Freyger awaits your reply Philosoraptor...
@VoiceOfTheEmperor
@VoiceOfTheEmperor 4 жыл бұрын
Either that or they are something like the Old Ones.
@mhbones475
@mhbones475 4 жыл бұрын
Except the Old Ones needed the Webway to travel far distances, I also find it hard to believe that they've been so unsuccessful in combating Chaos if they can breed like anything else, or that they are only found in Caliban. Surely any of the Old Ones that remain would have made sure the Watchers could spread, breed, and make it own that they stand in direct opposition to Chaos (arguably the biggest threat). Surely they would be everywhere if they had access to the Webway and space travel. Add to this the fact that they are virtually 100% for certain Warp entities, the Old Ones almost definitely had nothing to do with them.
@williamward4117
@williamward4117 4 жыл бұрын
Scary Jawa psyckers...
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
Not every advanced Xenos species is the "Old Ones". In a galaxy billions of years old, more technologically advanced civilizations should have existed beyond the Knife Ears, Necrontyr, Dark Age Humans, and the Space Toads.
@markobucevic8991
@markobucevic8991 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrTurbowhitey Actually there did exist other technological species during the times of the old ones and Necrontyr but as mentioned in a few books, most species(es?) Were wipes out during the massive war in heaven which burned almost literally the whole galaxy at its highest point, so in general there are always possibilities that these magical squats are a product of the old ones or were allies or something.
@Johnnythat1dude
@Johnnythat1dude 3 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine the Watchers were going to destroy the Dark Angels to stop them from falling to heresy by Luthor, then one of the Dark Angels pat their head and now they love them.
@SymbioteMullet
@SymbioteMullet 4 жыл бұрын
They're demons of the warp entities of Law (rather than chaos)
@viewernewest
@viewernewest 4 жыл бұрын
Wait. Could it be, the remnants of the old ones? Changed by their time in the maelstrom to allow them to aid the enemies of chaos. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Excellent video as always Inquisitor!
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
Your putting far too much thought into it. Even more than any BL writer
@56thvraksgrenadierregiment72
@56thvraksgrenadierregiment72 2 жыл бұрын
More likely from another dimension but perhaps the watchers bear the same role as the creators of life and just have lesser powers outside their own dimension.
@mikeys2986
@mikeys2986 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, what if they're not "Space Jawas" but even more scarily "Space Ewoks"
@magoswes3588
@magoswes3588 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like adding space to Jawas is redundant
@theshlauf
@theshlauf 3 жыл бұрын
@@magoswes3588 Force Ghost Forest Jawas
@ShinxSparks
@ShinxSparks 4 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail reminds me of Jawas...
@spamhere1123
@spamhere1123 4 жыл бұрын
They're the Auditors from Discworld. And all this Chaos business has left the Universe very, very messy.
@melelconquistador
@melelconquistador 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@eyeof3ndr364
@eyeof3ndr364 4 жыл бұрын
I know they could kill me or drive me mad, but they're so cute!!!
@brentjones1660
@brentjones1660 4 жыл бұрын
Something I thought should be mentioned is that they saved Lion El'Johnson by putting him in stasis deep in the rock. Only the emperor knows this and considering their hatred for the warp, aiding the dark angels, and saving a primarch, I find it possible that they could be connected to The Emperor in some way.
@flair541
@flair541 4 жыл бұрын
They're space fae, the more I hear details about them, that's all I can come to. Maybe their origins are something like 4th/5th Dimensional beings.
@TheMemphisxlr8
@TheMemphisxlr8 4 жыл бұрын
They're...Hoodlums... ...I'll show myself out.
@TenPtJackalope
@TenPtJackalope 4 жыл бұрын
TheMemphisxlr8 No. No you stay and take responsibility for that pun. Own it.
@TheMemphisxlr8
@TheMemphisxlr8 4 жыл бұрын
Very well: I take full responsibility for this pun.
@shinagami7
@shinagami7 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMemphisxlr8 Asmodai....make him repent.
@YingTongIddleEyePo
@YingTongIddleEyePo 4 жыл бұрын
They're working for Malal/Malice the greatest of Chaos Gods who has actually edited himself out of existence to be ultimately chaotic 😂
@Eduardobarthwe
@Eduardobarthwe 4 жыл бұрын
This actually makes a lot of sense, AFAIK Malal's whole thing was that he's an anti-chaos chaos god, so having the watchers being warp entities aligned with Malal would explain their distaste towards the other Chaos gods and since Malal's power is so much weaker than that of the other chaos gods it also makes sense that they'd see aiding the Imperium as the best way to fight against them.
@rodac100cook7
@rodac100cook7 4 жыл бұрын
No. I got it. They're all Orco from the He-man cartoon series. Lol
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty great video. Watchers of the Dark sounds like an interesting topic. They look like Jawas
@permeus2nd
@permeus2nd 4 жыл бұрын
1:58 the watchers are really Tomberrys from Final fantasy look at it he's so cute (just keep it away from the kitchens you dont want to see what they can do with chefs knifes)
@Anonymouzor
@Anonymouzor 4 жыл бұрын
could the watchers in the dark be ANTI warp? being made of negative warp energies as a result of some natural balancing act of the universe?
@rage_squid9641
@rage_squid9641 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that doesnt exist, they could at most be extreme psychic nulls
@zenoblues7787
@zenoblues7787 4 жыл бұрын
The Warp is the reflection of all thought by psychic beings in the universe. The only thing that could be truly considered "anti-warp" would be ironically reality itself. Real Space or the Materium which unlike the Warp is not shaped by thought or belief but instead constant and unchanging laws of reality. This is why prior to the Great Rift, Daemons had a hard time manifesting in Warhammer 40k. Requiring elaborate rituals of mass sacrifice to tear the veil that separates the Warp from Real Space. So the idea of a so called "Anti-Warp" is completely unnecessary because it already exist and we live in it.
@Anonymouzor
@Anonymouzor 4 жыл бұрын
@@zenoblues7787 but what is negative warp energies then?
@zenoblues7787
@zenoblues7787 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymouzor Normally warp energy turned against chaos by intense focus or faith. Otherwise it is psychic Blanks or C'tan technology using their innate abilities to sever the connect between the Materium and the Immaterium.
@updfdrakkell143
@updfdrakkell143 4 жыл бұрын
you may not be to far off. we do have matter and anti matter, so there could be actual anti warp beings on purpose instead of genetic deviations
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 4 жыл бұрын
Remleiz, I think you and I have some kind of mental connection. I can't count the times I've been thinking about the innumerable things in the 40k universe, then you make a video about it. Great work as usual.
@theemissary1313
@theemissary1313 4 жыл бұрын
Could be the ascended forms of the Old Ones, survivors from the war in heaven.
@piercesable344
@piercesable344 4 жыл бұрын
I remember a time Cypher's presence in one of Gav Thrope's novels surely rattled the Watchers enough for the Inner Circle to pay attention to his words after he turned himself in.
@trevorberryhill2398
@trevorberryhill2398 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of how the watchers are blanks of a sort, I wonder if human blanks can be Space Marines. And if so, can a Chapter be made of blank space marines? Also, as the warp reflects material space, could the watchers be reflections of feelings created by holding secrets? Maybe their null warp presence is a representation of their nature. And the reasons they help the Dark Angel's? Because no one in the grim dark is as secretive as the Dark Angels.
@Tyrnak_Fenrir
@Tyrnak_Fenrir 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, to anny artists out there, I really want to see this obese version of Fulgrim mentioned at about 14:10
@Torontokid
@Torontokid 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your content.
@hughgedney3393
@hughgedney3393 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 40k Theories.
@heathergochioco6209
@heathergochioco6209 4 жыл бұрын
Was having a bad day, then I see this. Love the Watchers!
@Mr_Bunk
@Mr_Bunk 4 жыл бұрын
One being known to have even remotely similar visual features to a Watcher is the being known to the more secretive Imperial scholars as ‘Orko’, a talkative servant of the renegade human (and possible sensei) H*[REDACTED]*.
@cloudrunner321
@cloudrunner321 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this! I love you ahhhhhhhhhhh
@thelegendarysupersquid7556
@thelegendarysupersquid7556 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one.
@MrKevmomoney
@MrKevmomoney 4 жыл бұрын
Here is a theory. I can’t remember what book I think it was ‘First Heretic’ where all the traitor Primarchs arrived as infants on their respective home planets. The only Primarch that wasn’t confirmed an official traitor was Lionel El Johnson. Could it be that the Watchers presence or influence managed to thwart Chaos’ plans on him?
@scottland8698
@scottland8698 4 жыл бұрын
Give out some valuable relics, tiny and helpful, it couldn’t be, could it?............ SQUATS!?!?!?!?!?
@sk00b72
@sk00b72 4 жыл бұрын
They're jailors to a giant serpent or worm that is in the core of Caliban. They make sure the taint of chaos is as low as possible. Source Angels of Caliban.
@PhantorumPrime117
@PhantorumPrime117 4 жыл бұрын
Oroboros?
@missivory_missraine
@missivory_missraine 4 жыл бұрын
@@PhantorumPrime117 It is assumed they do indeed keep humans out of the hands of Oroboros or other creatures that keep people away (The Great Beasts)
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
The Ouroboros the Tuchulcha, and the third unnamed "Engine" are relics of an advanced civilization. The "Watchers", whatever they really look like, could be an artificially created species made to be caretakers of the Engines.
@sk00b72
@sk00b72 4 жыл бұрын
@@missivory_missraine Well the Oroboros uses Zahariel to be free from the Imperium and it is said that this creature is a danger to the hole galaxy if it's unleashed. And this begs the question. Is it still alive and heavily wounded in the core of the rock or is it destroyed following the destruction of Caliban?
@missivory_missraine
@missivory_missraine 4 жыл бұрын
@@sk00b72 Which is a fair point and why the Engine plot hook was interesting. However I do hate the fact BL warped Astelans motives. (The dude was one of the original 5,000 Marines. He could give a single fuck less about Caliban outside of the orders from the Lion.
@CAP198462
@CAP198462 4 жыл бұрын
Zahariel was able to hear the watchers, and with his latent psyker senses, feel their presence before he saw them, implying they might be using a power like wraith-slip. Can they be detected with an auspex? Is it possible the watchers are hiding the Lion’s presence from the galaxy, even the Emperor?
@sexualyeti7023
@sexualyeti7023 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying anything, but there hasn't been any rule 34 based on the Watchers. That is all. Make of that what you will.
@Blueeyes713
@Blueeyes713 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen some rule 34 involving them. It does exist, it's just hard to find.
@jackstrayfeald1007
@jackstrayfeald1007 4 жыл бұрын
That's just nasty
@tuppytheducky
@tuppytheducky 4 жыл бұрын
only you can fix this yeti
@theshlauf
@theshlauf 3 жыл бұрын
Just find some Jawa rule 34 and photoshop their robes green, problem solved.
@shadownet5443
@shadownet5443 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished reading Descent of Angels the other day. It had me wondering about this.
@Sereze001
@Sereze001 4 жыл бұрын
So some of them lived? Good, us *[STATIC]* were beggining to fear that they were wiped out.
@robkemp598
@robkemp598 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Angels "Death to Xenos". Also Dark Angels, happy to let Xenos wander around their fortress willy nilly
@antimuppet
@antimuppet Жыл бұрын
I am going with the Watchers being some warp hijinks by The Old Ones. They took on the appearance of small cloaked beings to reflect the Terrans that came to colonize Caliban.
@davidcashmore6024
@davidcashmore6024 3 жыл бұрын
The watchers are the lions personal weed rollers. Hes not sleeping.... just really stoned :D
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
The true source of the"Watchers in the Dark" are as known to The wider Galaxy as the exact date Caliban was colonized. But by the sound of it, they have been taking a vested interest in humanity since before the fall of the Golden Age. If they do see time as the video talks about, they could have seen what would EVENTUALLY be created on Caliban, and kept a silent vigil, with a light hand guiding the survivors of the original Caliban civilization to their eventual destiny.
@nicholasfallbrook9810
@nicholasfallbrook9810 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you decide to change your intro from the Chaos Gate version of Iter In Infernos to the Stringstorm version?
@ryanstray5533
@ryanstray5533 4 жыл бұрын
I second this. That offbeat snare kills me every time
@hicksalpha
@hicksalpha 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because of copyright shenanigans
@snakeyman5560
@snakeyman5560 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this video. Praise the Lion!
@AnthroTsuneon
@AnthroTsuneon 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, the sight of something driving someone to madness always felt like an empty statement, to me. Same for driving even those with the strongest of wills mad, when someone like the occasional human can withstand it, while some random peasant might go mad from seeing a random pair of beady eyes in the night, even if it might just be some crow
@KrullMaestaren
@KrullMaestaren 4 жыл бұрын
Wish we could have a box og squats and the ability to add them to squads as some kind of psychic defense/shield. No attacks, just protection.
@Gnomkiller2000
@Gnomkiller2000 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know but they seem to be able to travel fast and seem to have a high enough tech level so I'm kinda wondering if it may be the remnants of the old ones or at least one of their creations :D
@kyrridas1573
@kyrridas1573 4 жыл бұрын
i want a Monster Hunter game thats just every day life on caliban.
@azariel6669
@azariel6669 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone made a lore video on the watchers
@complex314i
@complex314i 4 жыл бұрын
"Time is 3 dimensional." It always made more sense to me that, rather than time not existing in the warp, time is multidimensional in the warp. That way different 1D projections of this same 3D time would move at different rates, in different directions, form loops, or even stand still. People just say time does not exist in the warp because our minds can't comprehend any nature to time other than a 1D straight line. (I can't visualize multidimendional time either. However, as a mathematician, I can let the rules of algebra, calculus, and vector spaces tell me how such a universe could operate.)
@theodoremccarthy4438
@theodoremccarthy4438 4 жыл бұрын
The warp is a psychic dimension. That means time doesn't exist there, rather the it's the ideas of time which exist there. It's concepts like past, present, future, duration, synchronicity, and repetition which are real in the warp. Likewise, time could have as many dimensions in the warp as you could imagine, because thinking it would make it so.
@reidwallace4258
@reidwallace4258 4 жыл бұрын
I think their the warp manifestation of calmness, resolution, something like that, and that what is seen as a blank-like aura of nullification around them is simply the result of a concentration of those emotions shaping the warp in unusual ways. IDK, thats just my headcannon.
@phreakazoith2237
@phreakazoith2237 2 жыл бұрын
What about Watchers and chapter serfs? Do they work alongside or do they avoid each other with the watchers just getting the cool weapons from the drawers before Astartes are sent to their missions?
@MrAvengerofEarth
@MrAvengerofEarth 4 жыл бұрын
Very good!!! Again very good! And I have 3 theories: 1, can they be children of space marines? Yes I know space marines don't have sexhormons however the gene-seed has known to malfunction, and they have normal humans as servants. Can they have been trained since birth to serve the Dark Angels? 2, can the Watchers be a Cherubs experiment that went very, very not only out of control, but totally out of WACK !?!?!?! 3, can they be Aeldari-blanks during the Fall of the Aeldari ??? Demons really, really don't like blanks so what if Slaanesh eat, chewed and spat them out ?
@SpoonieMcspoonington
@SpoonieMcspoonington 4 жыл бұрын
I am now wondering if the Krorks had a superior form of Gretchen and if the watchers in the dark are just a really powerful sect of these Gretchen that didnt devolve like the krork did due to knowing many things about the warp, I will call them Wratchin and nobody will take me seriously ever again.
@MrAvengerofEarth
@MrAvengerofEarth 4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know what Lion El'Jonson said about the Watchers
@0lderSch00l
@0lderSch00l 3 жыл бұрын
I think it has to do with time. I think they are originally creatures of the warp. Not of Chaos, but of the warp itself. They exist in all times and places simultaneously, so they portray all the attributes they have ever possessed all at the same time. This is how they can be both Blank and Psycher as well as how they move around. since they exist in all places and at all times it's just as likely they are in Tau space as they are in the Imperium.
@eotwkdp
@eotwkdp 2 жыл бұрын
Young Lion meeting watchers in the dark Lion “Hmm you aren’t trying to eat me ...... going to have you guys around “
@TheGeraltofrivia
@TheGeraltofrivia 4 жыл бұрын
I think the watchers are from another layer of space, different to the warp and real space altogether and have some kind of vested interest in combating chaos, perhaps it's effects in our universe effects theirs and they trying to help us defeat chaos so that it will end the damage being caused to their universe.
@Xenoprophet
@Xenoprophet 4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this, is a plane exists in opposition to the warp, would it be considered order?
@TheGeraltofrivia
@TheGeraltofrivia 4 жыл бұрын
@@Commodore22345 what if we are the center universe where chaos and order can exist in unison and we are a battle ground for a war on an inter dimensional scale and the watchers are from the universe of order
@TheGeraltofrivia
@TheGeraltofrivia 4 жыл бұрын
@@Xenoprophet what if we are the center universe where chaos and order can exist in unison and we are a battle ground for a war on an inter dimensional scale and the watchers are from the universe of order
@franciscorui
@franciscorui 3 жыл бұрын
How about the dimensions that the c'tan use for their powers, would those work?
@Caulderain
@Caulderain 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think it could be a sort of Caliban-brand of Warp taint? As they seem to not follow conventional rules (as much as one can call the warp and its machinations, rules) and as far as I remember, the whole blending into shadows and not being noticed, wasn't something the Lion could do? I am pretty sure he does in the novella Dreadwing as well in front of Holguin and Farith (I don't remember how to spell that), so does anyone think they could be linked?
@rawwset
@rawwset 4 жыл бұрын
Well considering Blackstone can both enhance or negate the warp who is to say that a warp entity hadn't found a way to manifest itself into a semi permanent form that had aspects akin to Blackstone.
@robaerto71
@robaerto71 4 жыл бұрын
According to the pic of your video The Watchers are actually ordinary Jawas!!! :'D
@MrKago1
@MrKago1 3 жыл бұрын
is it possible, given their non-warp based telepathy and the prophecy of an "angel of death", they might be some kind of minuscule shards or residue of a C'tan? perhaps the night bringer? or maybe with the idea of techno knights despite being feudalistic, perhaps a shard of the angelic appearing Magladroth. also consider how active Necrons were in combating the warp where ever it encroached on real space.
@elijahkelley7616
@elijahkelley7616 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, we need an episode on the Cabal now.
@CommanderBohn
@CommanderBohn 4 жыл бұрын
They are all Orkos if Orko wasn't a comic relief. Not to mention not having problems with their powers.
@sosukeaizen7028
@sosukeaizen7028 4 жыл бұрын
I always wonder but never ask; what's the intro song?
@caalsigo
@caalsigo 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a crop from the final part of one from the game Chaos Gate kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nJmantOFnqm3g5s.html from 1:40 onwards (the final section of the track)
@meatybtz
@meatybtz 4 жыл бұрын
The watchers in the dark are the "interfaces" of the Warp Computer that the Lion Recovered. The reason they are seen in the past and future is because the computer is in the Warp and thus is time freed. The computer feared nothing and no one, except the Lion for some reason and it willingly served him. It was also capable of opening portals in the warp and time at will.. the point that it could link the bridge from a Dark Angel's ship to a Death Guard's ship. The reason they are diminutive is because they are children. The adeptus mechanicus tried various attempts to interface with the machine, it turns out only the body of children could survive it. From that moment onward because of the use of being somewhat omni-present and not bound by physical locations the robed, hunched, diminutive beings that no one understood who stood beside the throne of the Lion... watchers in the dark. I need to get the title of the book because I keep forgetting it. But yes..
@CGauntHarrison
@CGauntHarrison 4 жыл бұрын
What if the Watchers evolved within the Webway as opposed to the Warp?
@franciscorui
@franciscorui 3 жыл бұрын
I think that they come from an evolutionary line more akin to the c'tan, using higher spacial dimension rather than the warp as the source of their powers.
@FrstSpctr88
@FrstSpctr88 4 жыл бұрын
So, Azrael probably didn't need to kick Snurko, as it was likely aimed telepathically to Azrael, Asmodai and Belial...
@Sanguinor_Energy
@Sanguinor_Energy 4 жыл бұрын
the watchers are secretly pulling strings, in the book, azrael, during a promotion to chapter master ritual something happens with a watcher that makes clear the dark angel’s allegiance is more to the watcher’s than the emperor! the dark angel’s really have some secrets. great vid.
@Bluemilk92
@Bluemilk92 4 жыл бұрын
Considering the Dark Angels color scheme, they are obviously Yoda.
@anaximander_4473
@anaximander_4473 4 жыл бұрын
Hypothesis: they are another species genetically engineered or altered by the old ones, possibly towards the end of the war in heaven as chaos started to erupt in the warp. They were intended to counteract the effects of the old ones excesses (chaos) but since their creation came late in the war they were never proliferated throughout the galaxy.
@mprojekt72
@mprojekt72 4 жыл бұрын
Grimdark version of Orko from He-Man and the Masters of the Universe?
@LetholdusKaspyr
@LetholdusKaspyr 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect they're beings from a higher order reality, able to interact with physical dimensions as well as spacetime in the same way we interact with three spatial dimemsions.
@franciscorui
@franciscorui 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda like the c'tan
@doctormaverious332
@doctormaverious332 4 жыл бұрын
With how the Warp is basically a free for all when it comes to time is it possible that that the Watchers were somehow created by the Emperor after he ascended? Or maybe there is a connection between them and the Old Ones?
@wattrocks
@wattrocks 4 жыл бұрын
“Empers tempers Azriel, did you that? We’re totally going to find Cypher now!”
@Lamhfada1337
@Lamhfada1337 4 жыл бұрын
Well Grots obviously, they found out they had it pretty good there. Also they get to steal bits of kit or primarchs, never get kicked by orks, all in all a great gig.
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