Amen brother

Don’t forget about the single player content. In 2005’s Battlefront 2 you can get everything that you can get in multiplayer offline.

You also cannot buddy up in vehicles like you could in the original. Who remembers crammig into a shuttle or gunship to destroy the enemy ships internals? Who remembers cramming into the ATTE and defending it from all fronts? With vehicles being purchased by points akin to halo 5's req system, it certainly removed the buddy system you could have in the original.

12 years of technological advancements and the 2005 version still has lots more content.

Can I express how badly I want Battlefront 2 (2005) remastered on consoles with mod support.

501st >>>>>Inferno Squad

Old school battlefront 2. i remember playing this with my cousin back in 2007 and it was on play station 2. its so addicting

Am I the only one that doesn't want a progression system? Just pure fun and classes are set like they should be?

Battlefront 2 for gameplay Battlefront EA 2 for visuals

I dislike how they used cross era hero's. It really bothered me to play as Rey in the clonewars.

If the old one gets a huge graphics and models rework, there will be no way for the new one to beat it.

they should remastered 2005 to ps4

One word...."Everything!"

501st >>>>>> Inferno Squad

They just should have made battlefront 2 pandemic but with more content... what it was supposed to be ... i mean why call it even then battlefront if it doesnt have the same content... it just fills my results box with stuff i am not searching for its annoying ... imagine someone made a remake of jedi knight or a sequel and its basically not the the same as the original at its core... thats just milking the name ... so thats my problem in general... ur searching for concept art or battlefront 2 vids now i gotta search and call it the 2005 version or pandemic and hope for the best... why didnt they call it first assault or something as this one never came out and it wouldnt use a already taken name... now i have this situation... i am playn the original and a friend wants to watch me playn so i stream it and he asks what this is and i have to explain to him that its not the one that came out recently that there was one before ... sry for the long rant but i just needed to vent it somewhere -_-

EA doesn't have the guts. And that's fact.

Just noticed a weird popping sound in a few places. Not sure what's up with that.

steam - battleferont 2 - nominate for "Best Battlefront 2" award wait for profit

Good vid! The og battlefront 2 is the goat!!! Rise of the empire is one of the best campaigns ever created!!!! SWB2 is the best!

I really LOVE both games, they are fun and immersive,but yeah, I think I prefer the old game :)

What Pandemic's Battlefront does better: (Including Mods, because they're just as much part of the game as the vanilla stuff) - Freedom and just overall Feel (Movement and Gameplay much less restricted and feels very open) - Just Free Gameplay (No weird and and far too short stages, you do whatever you want to do and get to play for a while) - Play Anything (Horror like HvB or Fun like Beach Troopers, Great Stories like Aldura, Extensive Gameplay like BFX) - Amount of Content (Hundreds of Maps, Classes, Weapons, Vehicles, Heroes etc., just so much to choose from) - Even more Eras (basically any you can think off and even ones from other games) - Maps (Are Bigger, have much more accessible areas and a lot of AI running around, also flanking and tactic exists on them) - Classes (Much more to varied classes to choose from with far more interesting and useful weaponry) - Weapons (Much more Blasters and Gadgets to choose from) - Vehicles (Multi-Person Vehicles you can drive or fly yourself without the stupid rails) - Force-Sens. Heroes (Much more varied attacks, much better movement and just fun gameplay) - Space Battles (Freely leading a battle destroying or sabotaging the enemy capital ship is great) - Campaign and Mod Stories (Much more Interesting stories and fun objective play) - Modes (Conquest is unbeatable) - Community (Is much more passionate and creates amazing mods) - Developers (Actually care about their player base, hell they were the ones to add mod tools for us to use) - Offline Gameplay (It's super fun, the opposite of DICE's repetitive, soulless dull and empty version of offline matches) - Galactic Conquest (Can be pretty fun) - AI (Hell, even they have a certain charm compared to DICE's robotic, sluggish and useless AI XD) - No Microtransactions, nor season passes and everything is unlocked through gamepay What DICE's Battlefront does better: - -A Progression System (Ranks and tons of star cards to unlock and upgrade)- - Graphics and Cinematic Feel (Smoother Gameplay) - -Customization of the Classes (You can choose the weapons and star cards you want to use)- - -Multiplayer (Barely anyone plays 2005 online and 2017 can definitely be fun, also larger player base)- I wasn't gonna be that harsh on 2017, but DICE can't stop giving me reasons to hate their Battlefronts. Can't they either copy what Free Radical had almost finished or at least just reskin Battlefield into a Battlefront, I'd love that. The current one can be fun but has tons upon tons of issues and just doesn't compete with the original Battlefronts. Well, except for Multiplayer, because not many are left playing a game that came out 12 years ago and the newer one's can be fun WHEN IT DOESN'T END IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE OF THE STUPID STAGE SYSTEM THAT MAKES THE LARGEST GAMEMODE AVAILABLE LAST JUST 5 MINUTES.

STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT 2 2005 ITS THE BEST STAR WARS GAME WHO EVER MADE AND NO SHIT GAME OF EA WILL CHANGE THAT

Short said: Everything.

OG battlefront 2 is the best thing to come from the prequels

those 2 dislikes are dice and ea

The problem on EAs battlefront is that the offline is without content. There should be a galatic Conquest or the mods from the multiplayer. EA gets more money selling the game and not the cosmetic stuff. I don't get why EA doesn't invest on the offline. My opinion so if you wanna discuss, please put your arguments.

Lego Star Wars the complete saga wasn't bad either

It did everything right. Talking about the older one!

I miss the hunt mode wher eyou could play as Sand people or Wamps

the new game is actually trash

Excellent video. You really captured all the elements which make the old game better, and you came across as fair as possible by accepting any possible biases or reasons why DICE might not be able to reciprocate something for balancing purposes. Two things I would add is that (a) the old Battlefronts never had cross-era heroes or cross-era weapons, and (b) the old Battlefronts not only had Star Wars music playing 95% of the match, but Pandemic had also keyed certain tracks to certain elements of the game. Every hero had their own theme song. If you played in certain areas of the map, it triggered certain score. No matter what was going on in the game, the music adjusted itself to feel appropriate to what was being played. That really helps immerse you in the Star Wars universe. I cannot understate just how influential John Williams’ score is to the Star Wars experience. Although the new Battlefront has some of it, the games are almost always silent until the objective changes for like 30 seconds in a 15 minute match, and even then the music is random music from any era of Star Wars, not exclusive to the era. Oh and this reminds me of a third thing: the in-game chatter which helps sell that other a.i. or players are real soldiers. The new game does this actually a little better than the 2015 one, but still not as well as the originals. You tell me if the new game has any in-game lines as memorable as “Watch those Wrist Rockets!” or “Now, hear this, all hands man your battle stations!” or “The Force was strong with that throw!” or “Ow, was it something I said?”

I completely agree about the Jedi Flashy Jumping. It was sooo satisfying in the original BF2, but yeah I also understand that it needs to be balanced in EA’s BF2

You could have made this video 5 seconds by just saying “everything but the graphics”

Honestly all ea had to do was remaster battlefront 2 and the would've been heroes

One word EVERYTHING

ur one of the people making this game still alive :) and i do like how the new BF2 has more realistic graphics, and imagine that in the old BF2...thatd be sick af

Ikr, 2005 is better a lot things u can do but they only cares about gaming right now is animation and graphic

Great video! Nothing else to say. Just great as always

The 2005 version looked out for those wrist rockets

Very professionally done, you've got some good editing skills , and would agree to everything except the campaign, just my opinion though

I believe that both are spectacular video games! They both have their positives and negatives. I consider The game-play for the new Battlefront 2 to be an improvement over the first, at least in certain aspects (such as gun-play). Despite being somewhat limited in what can be done, Battlefront 2 (EA) has a just slight better space battle system. Boarding capital ships in the classic version was fun once or twice (my opinion, it may still be fun for others). However, it turned into a more boresome objective after time went on (in my opinion). Anyways, implementing ship-boarding into an multiplayer-focused video game could be slightly troublesome (at least in an effective way). In actuality, implementing many aspects from the classic into the new can be troublesome for multiplayer. Therefore, I understand why they are not present. As for the campaign, indeed, Dice's campaign does feel rushed at certain instances. However, I do prefer it over the old one. Battlefront (classic) did not feel like a true campaign. I do enjoy the story, but it wasn't all that bedazzling as some may make it sound. Despite Battlefront 2 (EA) having a predictable story (which is more of Lucasfilm's fault, rather than Dice's), it was still enjoyable. Perhaps if Dice were given more time to work with, it could have been a more well-done campaign. These are just my opinions; feel free to disagree/agree on different or all parts.

It's KZfaqrs like you I highly respect. You don't bash the game because there are lootboxes..Yes that is an issue but it doesn't mean the entire game is terrible. Don't ruin it for everyone because a feature in the game is a money grabber! Love ya Kryo. Keep up the epic work!

Hi there, General Kryo! I am not sure if you're active anymore so anyways I am just a humble new fan of your remarkable work. I discovered your channel fairly late but because of you superb videos and channel, I was able to learn about the magnificent mods available for this superb game and the wonderful modding community that so brilliantly creates and generously churns them out. I regularly watch at least one of your old videos because they are always so brilliant, creative and enjoyably. As a teen, I was only to able play the vanilla game which I enjoyed quite a bit but after discovering your channel and the plethora of these mods, I was able to enjoy and experience it far more exponentially unlike honestly any other game I've ever played. Thank you so much for existing and putting out such top tier content . :D Apologies for the extremely lengthy comment.

I actually got BattleFront 2005 just last week and I really loved the selection of era if you like to play during the Clone wars or the galactic civil war between the Empire and Rebellion, but I have one problem, not a really big one, in the game mode "XL" you'll be placed in a map with more than a hundred units on each team and you'll slaughter the opposing team until reaching the score limit, from which point is how you win, but my problem during this game mode, I always lose when I join the Republic during the clone wars era because the units of the CIS uses half the amount of their army for Droidekas, which is super OP and I can't get that sweet victory of the Republic. I end up always with the CIS to ensure a victory when playing this gamemode during the clone wars era selection...

The game is trash, for no reason!

Battlefront 2 (2005) is Legends and Battlefront 2 (2017) is canon proof that Battlefront 2 (2005) is better

I had a friend who had Star Wars Battlefront II(2005) on console and we played it like all the time on the split screen mode. We either worked together as clones or went against each other when it was galactic civil war.(I fought for the rebellion while he fought for the Empire) I have the PSP edition of Battlefront II(2005) which is basically the same thing except it has less maps,you can't destroy enemy ships frominside and no rise of the empire.

The second you said that battlefront 2 2005 mods were the basis of your chance I instantly subscribed and hit the bell

1. Everything

battlefront 2 (2005) did everything better than battlefront 2 (2017) Slap 2017's graphics & engine on 2005 Scrap those trash ass lootbox's/starcards Slap in some new maps/guns And you'd have the best star wars game of all time But nope, I'm not buying stbf2017

The #1 thing on my list was the ability to change sensitivity between troopers and heros and campaign was awesome

I agree it was Sooo much fun to be able to Hop in And Out of a Vehicle anytime you wanted too. Lots of freedom

The multiplayer is fun and all, until you realize that no one wants to play as a team and play the objective. You join a galactic assault match only to see a lobby of around 30 out of the 40 people using the CR-2 or whatever the fuck that gun from the assault class is with insane fire rates and no one else wants to play the objective for a W. The progression system is complete and utter GARBAGE. You can grind the hell out of a certain class/hero and it doesn’t fucking matter because the progression is random luck by fucking star cards. I grind the shit out of the officer class and I’m only level 13. Meanwhile I never play specialist and he’s like level 17 because for some fucking reason I always get star cards for him in trooper crates. The fact that heroes are still locked behind a grindwall is scummy as fuck. ////////////SPOILERS FOR THE CAMPAIGN///////////////// The campaign had a great Star Wars atmosphere to it but it again plays the cliche “imperial troop realizes he/she is fighting for the wrong side and turns rebel” bullshit. It’s fun and all, I still enjoyed it, but if I wanted a story with a plot like that I’d replay The force unleashed. These people really knew that we were excited for a story about the imperial perspective of the war, and they fucking knew that you only played like 3 missions as Iden in the empire, like they might as well should’ve saved the disappointment and told us that she turns, orrrr they could’ve done a fresh story with a new plot 🤷🏽‍♂️

EA allowing modding? Are you serious?

2005 Best Star Wars movie and game Liverpool greatest comeback UCL final For me as a star wars and Liverpool fan this was my best year

You made the video structured very well

4:45 is this one of your videos? That umbara mod looks epic!

*THE BATTLEFRONT 2 (2005) IS THE BEST*

Finally someone who mentioned the mods!

This game was OP for 2005 and challenged games of today

The new one is so boring after the campain.

The thing about freedom is that more twelvies are playing the newer game so if we gave everyone freedom all you'd get is these kids trolling and crashing all the vehicles and killing everyone.

The Campaing,The size of the battles,the freedom we have,voice acting,modding and most important no microtransactions

I resently started playing bfII 2017, and there some aspects that you mention of the 2005 one that I truly miss in 2017 BFII. But thing that took away that I of 2017 bfII is that I like the way that did multiplayer. It's kind off mission based and I like it. Every character are interactive from one to the opposite based on the play outcome, and I think it's cool.

I prefer the new game, it’s a huge improvement over the 2015 game and it is also a huge improvement over the original. I enjoyed the original, I played it for 6 years, but it’s become really stale. Flying is slow, gunplay is clunky, ai is terrible and unfortunately the graphics don’t hold up to today. I love the new campaign. The old campaign is a story we already knew thanks to the moves and it had boring multiplayer objectives. It also didn’t have any new maps specific to the campaign which sucked. The new game also (will) feature more maps then the last. I count the old battlefronts space maps as the same, due to the fact that the only things that changed were models, layouts and skyboxes. I also prefer the heroes in the new bfII. It is true that the old game had a lot of heroes, but apart from models and a few recurring abilities, they were the same, here we have unique characters with abilities like force freeze, mind trick etc. To be honest I don’t even know why galactic conquest is so loved. Yes, I have played it multiple times, but all it is is randomised instant action. Before you bash the new game for progression, the old game had neither nor customisation. Bash me all you want, I just took off my nostalgia glasses.

EA don't have high ground!

Probably the biggest thing I wish they would carry over from the 2005 BF2 to the 2017 BF2 is the vehicles. There should be more of them and they shouldn't cost battlepoints that could otherwise be spent on heroes and special troops... and they should allow for multiple players to be in one vehicle, depending on what it is. For instance the classic droid tanks should have one person driving and firing the main guns, while the other person fires the big cannon on the top. And like the 2005 BF2 and the Battlefield games, you should find them at spawn points throughout the battlefield. Another thing they should bring back is being able to choose where you want to spawn.

Hey Kyro love your videos man. Keeps updated on what maps are better to play. Anyways, I agree with most of your points but something that really bugs me in the new game is the cross-era heroes. I know I might be nitpicky, but when I see Rey attacking droids, it kind of takes me out of it to be honest.

Sorry but how do people like the campaign in BF2 (2017) it’s so poorly written it’s cringey.

i like the originals better but i feel like all people do is compare when they really are not similar except for the name

Also, I like how you can constantly sprint In new one rather than being limited in old one

All I want is this exact game, just with the high quality HD graphics. That would make me shed a tear of joy.

Sorry buy I hate the new battlefront, originals all the way

Honestly, i feel like the ATAT on rails is way better because i remember in the original ppl cheesed around with ATATs walking off to where they were of no use, and having such an important vehicle up to be steered by trolls is way less cool than just having the thing walk towards the objective, because why wouldnt it? And then have players controll / fire the thing on rails. Its of course straight up to prefernce but i guess i am one of the few people that liked that change in the new titles.

What I really expected from the Old battlefront 2 was the final mission to be on Endor, crushing rebels and at the final cutscene we get to see Death Star 2 blowing up from Endor, unfortunatelly it ended on Hoth, but it was an Awesome campaign, especially playing it with the battlefront extreme mod.

My favourite thing in classic bf2, Operation knightfall

I need capital ship boarding in my space battles, it just made it so much more interesting and gave me something to do while shooting enemy ships. I could turn the reinforcements up to max and completely destroy an entire fleet and then take out the ships to fill out the rest of the points, now though it's boring to do that in the new SWBFII as all you do is just shoot ships that fly around stupidly.

Mods make OG SWBF2 alive and playable almost decade. I have Battlefront Extreme mod, which is give the game improvement in classes, heroes, and firepower, buffed yet balanced. Put reinforcement count and bot deployment to maximum, and i have the most intense shooting game i ever played and i can play for everyday. No lootboxes, no microtransactions, no pay-to-win shit. Just pure satisfaction.

Oh... it easy quastion 1) You can create mods and maps 2) Much more character, starfighters, maps, game mode 3) NO lootbox

Kyro. Like you I am probably a bit biased. I grew up playing this game and will always hold a special place in my heart. ♥ The new game, in my opinion feels so restrictive compared to the Classic Battlefront 2. Do you think we will see another Battlefront game like the classic one but for the current generation?

this vid is awesome dude i subbed the old battlefront 2 is my favourite star wars game

I enjoyed the galactic conquest mode. after beating the game it opened up a whole new side I had never seen before

Here's just my opinion of SWBF2(2005) compared to SWBF2(2017). Here's how both did. Spawning: Command posts, of course. It was amazing to have the strategic advantage of choosing the best spot, deploying there, and possibly changing the tide of the battle itself. The new one has group deployment, which makes sense, but you cannot choose where you deploy, which is so annoying. I get that both have the same starting spawn, which I'm fine with, but later in the battle I want to spawn wherever I deem fit, instead of where I'm forced. Heroes: The timer was probably the best thing that was done. Poorly skilled players would lose the hero quickly, while the best would change the tide of the battle. The new heroes' regeneration is stupid OP, it takes away the fun of being the ultimate weapon of the entire team. Now I loved the multiple heroes at once, but cross era-gameplay is just disturbing to the force. Modding No brainer, the 2005 takes the cake. Only problem is though it crashes a ton, but the modded maps are great. It can only be better (except on steam) when the servers support mods and allow you to play Coruscant with many other people Campaign: Note, I did not play the campaign, I just watched gameplay of it. I do not appreciate that the SWBF2(2017) uses one person you must play as, and if you die, you have to go to the previous objective on a new save. Meanwhile, the 2005 game was extremely nice that you weren't forced to play one definite hero, and that you must go back to the objective. You could die as a hero, but then come back as a clone at the command posts and then finish off that one pesky jedi that killed you. Now speaking of the story, I found it was almost tied, but 2005 takes the cake. The fact that it almost tied up (Damnit EA, stupid DLC BanthaDung, corporate greed) episode 6-7 without me reading a book was great, but I was never really liked Iden Versio. She was completely new, and it seems that she almost popped out of nowhere. It also felt rushed. In contrast to 2017, playing a clone trooper was great. We already knew a lot about them, and came to admire them due to the movies and the TV series (I know, there was 2001 and 2008, I'm speaking both, which honestly makes no sense) with their characters almost being protagonists. Being a 501st clone, I feel like I wasn't born a year ago, even though it could be the case, and we already loved clones. It also helped tie up the prequels and original trilogy. Also mass-murdering jedi was extremely fun but difficult. Combat: do note this is taking into account Spawning and heroes. The gunplay in the new one is absolutely beautiful, even though it's annoying when you find out that an officer killed your enforcer with his stupid turret. The original is almost on par, but not as fun. Heroes in 2017 are a bit unbalanced, along with the garbage spawning mechanics. The gamemodes however are tied, because I loved conquest, just shredding through the rebels in an ATAT. Meanwhile, galactic conquest and just killing people is great. Online and offline. 2017 has extremely online-based gameplay, which is annoying b.c Optimum is not as satisfying as it should be. 2005 however, has a balance of both, which is what makes it better. 2017 is 95% of its content online, while offline gameplay is absolute trash. Conclusion. I like SWBF2(2005) better, because it is cheaper, it has almost as decent gameplay, it has better maps, it isn't rushed, and it has mods.

I can still play both of them on my ps2

Nice mod coverage "subscribed"

I like the new vehicle system more. It was a bit odd seeing a clone trooper just jumping in a hell fire droid. It also stops people from just jumping out the vehicles and using them as easy transportation and then abandoning them like they do in battlefield 4.

You did forget ONE thing. You can play as Anakin Skywalker’s yellow Jedi StarFighter in the space battle of Battlefront II (2005).

Guys! If anyone could help in letting me know in which one of these mods is that mega four-legged droid at 4:20 featured? I have downloaded all mods detailed in the description with the exception of the one with the nexus mod since it's hidden by the author. I would be extremely grateful since I haven't come across that unit in any of the mods and I would honorably proclaim thee General Alcazar Seth the Mighty Exogorth Slayer.

THEY should make this GAME Playable on PS4 SERIOUSLY MAN. Just love the classic BF2

Excelente video maestro Kyro :) saludos desde México

The one thing i like about BF 2 2005 is there is gonk droids :)

Agree with the video, let’s not forget that 2005 actually allowed you to play the full game offline! I can’t stand the fact that the offline mode in 2017 BF2 is basically a pre alpha version of what you can do in the online mode. The maps are restricted to a fraction of the size and it just feels like the offline experience is purposefully barren to force you to play online which is not at all enjoyable for me. If the 2005 game had the graphics and added maps of the 2017 game we would have a pretty close to perfect current gen Star Wars game

It's a no brainer which is the better game in terms of gameplay. Devs don't seem to care about gameplay anymore. Just visuals and finding intricate ways to get you to keep spending money on it.

With the exception of assault, you could usually only have one hero and villain on the map at a time in 2005, which is something that changed for the new game

You else loved going into the enemy ship in space battles?

Kryo, I have to admit, I really enjoyed this video :D

Don’t forget Galaxy Conquest where you could win strategic battles to conquer key planets and areas of the galaxy during the Clone Wars or Galactic Civil War!! No game comes close to that! However, Battlefront II (2017) allows us to play as heroes or villains without a time restriction, which is really my only gripe with the original Battlefront II...

*I totally agree with you!*

my list of which did better in what catagory... Star Wars Battlefront 2 (classic) - 1. Better execution of uniqueness to classes between each faction. 2. Better execution of hero characters, they even got the original voice actors for each hero to boot! (not sure about Boba though...) They even stayed true to canon, so you won't see Han Solo with clone troopers fighting Darth Maul or something. 3. Better gameplay and modes! Galactic conquest, instant action, capture the flag, assault, hero assault, Space battles, Space assault, Space ctf, imperial enforcer (on psp), rogue assassin (on psp), rebel raider (on psp), hunt, Online (it counts, due to the steam version's online servers being brought back), a single player campaign (on consoles, you can do the campaign cooperatively with a friend in split screen). The campaign has a few unique faction fights. Like clones vs. storm troopers, clones vs. jedi, storm troopers vs droids and geinosions! Galactic conquest in it of itself is pretty addicting in a good way. you make progress by taking control of as many planets as you can, while fighting for control against the opposing faction. the further you go, the harder it gets to compete with the enemy. to keep a consistant sense of progression, every fight you win you earn points, which are an in-game currency and can be used to either purchase more classes or temporary buffs to your army. stuff like Extra reinforcements for a fight, tougher armor, or even a hero assisting you in battle. 4. PC version is compatible with mods and it's much easier to apply mods to it. 5. Better scale for fights. the presence of bots filling the battlefield makes the battles feel bigger! plus with online having more than a 20 vs. 20 player limit, that says a lot. 6. a more engaging story. you follow the journey of clones for the 501st legion throughout the majority of the star wars saga, the convaded emotion narrated by a clone of the 501st. it showed us what was going through the clone's heads during events like Order 66.

The thing that hurts me most when playing the new game (Aside from the vehicles) is multiplayer instant action. I'm not big on big competitive. Never have been. BUT I LOVED playing Battlefront 2 (2005) with a couple of friends ON THE SAME TEAM fighting against the AI. And that just is not an option with EAfront 2.