Catapults to siege cities, 'cause of high attack. Knights to accompany them on flanks. You need about 10 units to capture walled city "safely".

For me my dad got into Civ 2, so similar experience.

Civ 4 with Realism Invictus mod is godlike

Your parents were way ahead of their time.

Yeah I think it's is better that at some point there is just no chance. I will always remember settlers killing tanks in Civ 2 lol

@@GamerZakh "I had two-to-one odds! Two is a bigger number than one! I should have won that!" - Sid Meier

@@kevnar Two to one for me is okay to go either way. It's just RNG in computers isn't 'true' randomisation either and when it's 99 to 1 odds and the 1 repeatedly wins it starts to feel very unrealistic haha. Besides realism, when things are that RNG it just becomes difficult to plan and strategies because you can just have that terrible run of dice rolls. They sorted it in later games by just changing things like settlers to have no combat abilities, which makes sense and feels good.

@@GamerZakh Yeah. That was the point he was making in his talk. Programmers and mathematicians understand probability. But ordinary gamers feel cheated when a militia beats a tank. At first, they massaged the RNG to cheat in the player's favor. Then they just removed combat abilities from settler units altogether.

@@kevnar Except the problem is that he programmed two to one odds, or even 1 in 8 or even 1 in a hundred, a tank versus a musket man, let alone a militia is a 1 in billion odds; as in, the musket man manages to shoot the bullet right down the barrel, right as the tank fires and the impact of the bullet in the middle of the firing grenade still in the barrel detonates the grenade. That is the only way a musket man takes down a tank. A militia man; are you kidding me? That militia man could be hacking away at a tank for a thousand years and the majority of the damage done to the tank will be rust, if the militia man manages to get in, it's because the rusted metal crumbles away, not because he manages to do any damage beyond some scratches. The changes here are 1 in a trillion trillion of him managing to stop a tank, and most of that will be the stupidity of the tank crew opening the canopy and he managing to get in and killing the crew, also by luck because the crew is armed with better weapons for close quarters fighting. See if throughout playing Civ 1, all of us, across the decades, one or two militia man managed to kill a tank, everyone would be celebrating them as the great hero of whatever civ who managed to crawl into a tank and kill the occupants; there would be animated memes of him doing it. But if militia man just takes down one tank after another, where you are literally losing more tanks to militia men than the enemy loses militia men, I've seen it happen, that is ridiculous. Gamers understand chance just fine, Sid Meier doesn't seem to understand the vast unbridgeable chasm between a tank and a militia man, and just how low his chances are.

I'm glad you enjoyed that! Thought I'd give a strong taste of the experience up front.

Glad you're enjoying it!

they sat there so long, the captian of the battleship thought they are fully inapt. so he granted em a tour on his battleship and eventually they treid the red buttons whilst the hatches were closed. Boom. sank it.

Yeah Prince is pretty challenging! I think I'm doing okay though. I actually find Civ 3 to be the hardest, so not sure if I can do Prince on that one.

Interesting history, what games do you play presently?

@@alexwalters35the problem with modern games is that they tend to go in the direction of cartoony/childish graphics and have next to easy gameplay-lacking in both departments.

@@alexwalters35 Just keep in mind, quite often devs use old school graphics today because of budget reasons. Games in the 90s that look like this were big budget blockbusters. Games that look like this today are made by one person paying everything out of pocket or have like a 50K Kickstarter. For reference for some games, Frogger's marketing budget alone was 4 million dollars. Baldur's Gate is an 8 million dollar game. Final Fantasy 7, total budget was 80 million dollars.

​@@hummingbir6Varies, currently on a vacation from most games. I rarely buy games at full price so have many on my wish list. Most games on the list are Early Access now a days, so can wait. Main types games I like are survival builders (strategy), like; Empyrion GS, Space Engineers, 7D2D, Stranded Deep, Subsistence, Survive the Aftermath, Frostpunk, Raft, Planet Crafter, Far Cry.

Haha it's just something I'm particular with, but I get that the two symbols are mixed together now.

We called it the divorce game, for all the breakups it caused. "Just one more turn dear"

Ahh I remember those days. I have missed a day of work because I gamed till 5am ones lol

I have already set up Civ 2 MGE! Even a jank workaround to get music running. Thinking I'll do real start and Roman for every game, then can really compare.

It definitely looks like a face.

Yeah I started with Civ II as well, going back is cool and weird, you can see where a lot of Civ II came from and how it developed from this.

Yes, pretty sure it is the same text.

From what I remember from Civ 2, yes it's wasted.

Or prepare a proper attack with 7-8 catapults and 5-6 phalanxes to fortify them next to the opponent’s city and blockade. Or send diplomats to sabotage the walls and then attack.

Yes part 2 has been recorded! Part 3 to finish the game.

This is a game where a phalanx with a spear can sink a modern battleship. Also you can build powerplants without discovering electricity. Nothing is a given, especially the name of things.

@@GamerZakh point taken!

Glad you enjoyed it! There is a way to play Civ 2 on modern windows but I can't tell you here because KZfaq now gives community guideline strikes for any instructions about 'abandonware'. I even have a guide video but deleted it off KZfaq because of that. You can ask me elsewhere.

Honestly, after the 2004 version of Pirates!, I don't think they could do much to improve on the formula. I remember I got Pirates! (2004) from a Scholastic fair or somesuch when I was in 4th or 5th grade, and I spent probably upwards of 200 hours in my first save lol. My mom struggled to get me to go to bed and stop playing!

@@jordanbrown3660 Hmmm... well, i have always been thinking that it could have used an expansion that would allow for a "darker" career.

You can play it in-browser now, here's my new guide: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g7iYZbGjuN6lg6M.html

Haha we're about the same age then.

I have videos on both those games.

I just find it funny that while they are attacking me, they ask me to declare war on their other enemies.

Yeah I got it running already and have a weird workaround to get music too.

We stared at this in the 90s and we liked it!

Not in this game, here it forces enemies to declare peace when you talk to them.

@@GamerZakh For all the good THAT does!!

@@projektkobra2247 The Civ 2 change makes peace way better haha. I think peace needs to be a minimum of 10 turns and other governments like Republic can stop you from declaring war too.

My guide video on how to play will go up tomorrow. There's a few ways.

@@GamerZakh oh, okay

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Yeah it would help if this could run in a higher resolution.