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THEY KILLED KIIBO THATS WHAT THEY DID WRONG

I think the worst part of V3 was the ending being told to us instead of us discovering it

the worst thing danganronpa v3 did is killing gonta

Pretty sure the real "The Biggest, Most Awful, Most Tragic Event in Human History" was chapter six of V3.

The ending made me feel really guilty for even liking the series. I mean I never considered how the characters would feel over me watching their friends’ deaths like a video game.

I just wanted Kaede to live

I do admit, I prefer Danganronpa V3 the best in terms of gameplay and post-game content, but in my opinion, I may like its story, but it doesn't really top it off from the Hope's Peak Academy saga

You know how people get pissy about “the whole story was a dream” trope, we don’t want to find out a story was just an elaborate ruse and nothing we did added up to anything. In terms of the game, our choices apparently had no real impact, and made it seem like a spin-off game as unposed to a main line DR game. But hey, that’s my take.

I wanted Kokichi to live to the end. To bask in despair and realise his DICE never existed. And to get a chance to play as him in the final act (like Keebo,Maki, and Himiko)

I do like how in the ending Shuichi said fuck despair AND hope. That I thought was very neat and different, what I didn't like was Tsumugi talking for hours about how fake stuff was just to bring in despair, because that shit dragged on for WAY TOO LONG. But what the ending also lacked was closure, was it fake or was it not? What the actually hell would they do after they even got out of there either way? I liked Danganronpa 2 a lil more because they actually let you know all the shit was semi fake. This ending pretty much shat on people who liked the franchise and then pulled a "What do you fucking think happened" afterward.

The ending kind of ruined it for me. Having to swallow the fact that the characters I felt were friends to me was all bullshit was difficult. I freaking cried at the Kaede playing piano to Shuichi scene. Now it makes me feel empty. :/

Personally, I think the point of the ending is to tell us that it’s never meaningless because of how much fiction influences us. I wouldn’t be the person I am if I hadn’t met my friends through Danganronpa in 2014, or if I didn’t give the series another chance and discover that I shared a lot of self-confidence issues with Shuichi and grew alongside him to overcome them in a way. DRV3 is meant to remind us that fiction influences our reality and no matter what, the characters will always FEEL real to us because we connect to them. We feel happy when they get their moments, or we Despair when they get executed or murdered. I commend you for leaving it open to us instead of writing it off as bad, because the ending is SUPPOSED to be taken through our own personal interpretations. Another good thing to do is to play the prologue after Chapter 6. There are flashbacks to the prologue in it that may or may not be different from the actual prologue, which adds to the open endedness of the ending, and it helps make the ending feel a little bit neater and clean.

Killing Kaede and revealing the game to be fictional just made me want to pretend V3 never existed, and the mastermind just framed Kaede like that, to hell with this crap

To me the ending of V3 was like reading a story that ends with "and then she woke up," instead of actually writing an ending.

My problem with the ending was that they gave us plot threads, instantly said “None of those matter bc I made them up”, and then went on a long winded explanation of what’s going on while I was still confused about a detail given earlier. I wanted to know how Kokichi knew the codes for Amami’s room/safe and wondered how the sudden reveal of Kaede’s sister would pan out (while swearing up and down it better not be the same as with Junko). But I guess that was the point? Those weird inconsistencies were to tip the player off? Tsumugi was running out of ideas or something? IDK it was very jarring when I was seriously into finally beating the mastermind. I can swallow the whole thing about the characters having been real people with goals of appearing on the show, the fact that danganronpa is a show in the world of V3 at the very least, and that Tsumugi was actually a descendant Junko. All the foreshadowing was there and made sense and would have been really cool if they had just lead up to it better? Maybe explained it better? I mean I definitely didn’t like being told I was playing the games because I wanted to see the characters fail. (Honestly give me a version of the game where kaede’s plan actually had worked as intended, and everyone made it out, i’d play post-killing game) In the end I feel as if you can choose to believe Tsumugi or see it as another lie to throw the remaining survivors off of their game. There’s so many inconsistencies with Tsumugi’s explination and we already saw multiple ways in which video or audio was changed to throw the heroes off. I feel as though any ending is plausible as the very last scene does not prove Tsumugi right or wrong. With the theme of “lies vs truth” it’s hard to trust the mastermind was actually telling the truth. Either way, this is my new favorite cast and I actually wish I could have played all the other iterations of danganronpa. I also wish Shuichi could have been an evil detective the way he supposedly wanted to be, bc he got close with lying but not enough to be evil.

The ending basically invalidated the mysteries of the whole game. I really wanted to know, what happened after the Gofer project? Why were they kidnapped? What happened to Naegi and the gang?!

Kaede and Shuichi's roles should have been switched with Shuichi being the decoy and Kaede being the true protagonist, and the ending should have worked to redefine the game's story instead of rendering the story of the whole game irreverent. Shuichi felt much more like the previous 2 protagonists compared to Kaede.

I loved the game, except the ending.. I like when games and series break the 4th wall and characters acknowledge that they are in fictional world, but when it becomes the main plot point is way too absurd for myself to handle. In a way otherwise great game with amazing cast and good story was kinda ruined for me in the end. So I guess I...agree with your video? Edit: Okay, so the ending has grown on me over time and I somewhat like it now. But this was my initial reaction to it after my first playthrough.

Someone pointing out that fiction is fictional as you're reading/watching/playing it is like someone whispering "He just wants your money and some legal writing on a bit of paper" in your ear when your boyfriend kneels down to propose. It takes the magic out of it. Maybe it's clever, maybe it's insightful and interesting and it makes you think, and maybe it's not a deal-breaker, but... you can't really enjoy it anymore. If the point of your story is to have people immersed in a world, and for people to empathise with the characters after 40 hours with them... don't turn round and slap them in the face with "LOL IT'S NOT REAL" at the end. Now what would have been more interesting is if the characters had turned round and appealed to *us* at the end, rather than a faceless, nameless "audience". Aren't we the audience? Isn't that the point? Or at least... couldn't that have *been* the point? Rather than just "lol it's not real"? I just didn't get what the hell they were trying to achieve with the whole thing.

The best way I can describe why I didn't like V3's ending is this: You can have the intention to shit on the floor. But it still doesn't make it any less unpleasant.

I hated the ending, it made me feel everything was pointless

The ending was actually done well but it literally made the entire game up to chapter 6 feel pointless. All the character building up to this point? Meme. All the bonding you've done with the other characters? Oops it was all fake. I'm trying really hard to actually ENJOY this ending but I honestly can't, normally you'd normally expect something rewarding after such a huge game but all we got was literally a big -Nothing you've done really matters hehe- and then they expect you to CARE about a completely new idea that they pulled out of their asses at the last minute about SAVING THE WORLD FROM THIS SHALLOW KILLIN GAME DURR. It's like playing Mario to save the princess but at the end you find out that your true purpose is to bake bread. Plot twists are good and stuff, but in my personal opinion it was done extremely badly in this case, you're just given the plot twist right at the end while getting bombared with a load of information that invalidates E V E R Y T H I N G you've thought about so far while you're trying to keep up with the FICTIONAL FICTIONAL FICTIONAL nonsense being thrown at your face. The "trial" was extremelly tedious and annoying after a point that I just wanted the game to end.

I can agree with your points honestly. The first game was the best in terms of story. It was more *realistic* than the following games and had an *actual* twist ending. AI Junko in the second game kinda upset me, but when you really think about it Izuru was the true twist and mastermind and that was really nice as a twist, even if nobody died and everything we went through was for nothing. Then V3 came along. And the game as a whole had me HOOKED. I was so prepared for the new theme of truth and lies, and loved every single trial. And then they showed the flashback of Hope's Peak, and that they are hope overcoming despair. I get that with a story like this, hope and despair is inevitable, so I let it slide. And I loved Tsumugi being the mastermind. During the investigation for Chapter 6 I knew it was her IMMEDIATELY, because of Himiko in the bathroom. But after she was revealed as the mastermind, things just went bad. There was so much I wanted in the rest of the story that didn't get realized, and they really took a chance with this one. They even said something about Kaede having a twin sister or something, and I was really hoping to see that be an important piece of information, but it wasn't. But I see the ending as something you have to interpret in your own way. Tsumugi could have lied about every single thing in the trial, and everything may be fine. But for now nobody knows what the ending really meant, if Tsumugi was telling the truth about it all being fiction, or if she lied

The best thing that came out of V3 was Kokichi. Hes a character that no one asked for, but we all needed.

My interpretation of the ending: DRV3 is set in an alternate timeline where the previous games are a fictional work that became a reality TV show. This means the Hopes Peak story was NOT meaningless (as they happened in the main DR timeline). Note: This theory is backed by precedent of DR using alternate timelines via the author's comment that the IF Timeline is equally canon to the main timeline (its narrative role was explanation of Mukoru's characterization). Tsumagi unlike Junko (who uses half truths) is a full blown liar. I believe the tapes are her lies, but the kidnappings were real. Tsumagi is intended to be a satire of the obsessive crazed fan. Via her obsessive nature, she completely misses the point entirely, especially in het rhetoric of everything was fiction and thus pointless. I didn't find the ending to be that bad given the interpretation I had.

Worst thing they did? LITERALLY KILLED OFF ALL OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS except Maki I'll give credit for that

There are so many games that went meta/breaking the 4th wall making it not so special anymore. When I looked this game went into that direction I tilted my head, "among many choices on how to end a game, why this." Did they wanna go philosophical with this ending? Idk, it seems like a shock factor disguising itself as a plottwist. But when I think about it, this game indeed always rely on plottwist on every last chapter. But... imo, this's just too much. Besides, this fandom is known for cherishing their characters so much, so pulling this "your fav character is a fiction it's just a prankk broo" is just a big middle finger, at least for me. And please stop with the "you don't get it" card. It's pretentious and not a valid argument.

Tsumugi did said that she was a copycat, so maybe she really isn't one the staff in Team Danganronpa, maybe she just lied about everything, there's an infinite amount of endings possible just because Tsumugi said that, because she was sad that she was getting executed, I believe it wasn't because Danganronpa was ending, it was because she was losing her friends and all the lies and everything.

Thank you, you explained why V3's ending destroyed the franchise for me. "I just wanted to believe in the world. I wanted the characters to be real" "It feels like the game doesn't want me to enjoy it" "It just killed any relationship I had with the game" "The 30+ hours I spent with the characters just felt meaningless" Also, the 4th class trial...

I really really *really* did not like the survivors of V3. Himiko was semi-tolerable, Shuichi is the number 1 beta boy, and Maki had all the personality of a dish cloth. All the intriguing characters died too early.

i thought the theme that "hope and despair isn't always as concrete as black and white" was a super cool theme, but ending the game like that made me grow to hate it. while playing the game, it was so much fun, so fresh, the characters seemed good, but after the ending, i can only look back with dread.

I mean atleast it wasn't Junko again my lord, anyways... Your dislike seems soley based on how they're fiction and that it was a cheap way to end it, but the point of it was how fiction can make an impact. The survivors even question if Tsumugi was lying during the Trial. And seeing how the reason for this video was because you loved the characters and had it torn away with the fiction thing, really only reinforces how "fiction can make an impact". I don't know though, I just wanted Kokichi to live goddammit.

I feel like I'm the only person who was satisfied with the ending. Yeah everything was fake, but I and the characters chose to believe in something fake. The characters are fictional, in all danagnronpa games they were fictional. I believe in the characters who lived and died in the story, wether their backstory were real or not, doesn't matter. Those fake backstory's is what drove them forwards, and those backstory's is what dictated their actions. Even though it doesn't exist, it exists to the characters. And even now, when it doesn't exist to the characters anymore, they are still their characters. Shuichi will still be a detective, maki will still be strong as fuck, himiko will still do magic and call it such. Those who died I'll continue to believe in as they were, I don't look at kaito and think of who he was before he entered the game, I think of kaito, luminary of the stars!!! And that's the kaito I know, love, and believe in as a fictional character. To me, he was a real character, maybe I've just taken a message from the game, so that's how I see it and I think that's how the characters see it. I chose to believe, and that's all there really is to it for me. That's why I was satisfied with the ending. Also himiko didn't die YAY!!!!

I didn't care either way, because I had already lost interest in the game by that point. Didn't like any of the characters who were left for the final trial. Maki was bearable (but I've seen the 'assassin with a heart of gold' trope too many times to care), the rest I found outright annoying. Couldn't care less about who lived or died, my favorite characters were long dead.

Two coincidences happened while watching this: As Tsumugi said "It's Junko Enoshima!" I got an add that said "This is it. This is the moment we've been waiting for!" Also in the middle of watching this, V3 went on sale on Steam

I have to admit that when I was playing through the ending the first time, my thoughts and opinions heavily reflected those expressed in this video. I felt insulted, I felt that the characters I grew to appreciate were somehow cheapened and that whatever message this game was trying to send wasn't worth shattering any suspension of disbelief the series may have had up to this point. I don't know when my mind changed, but I definitely know 'why' it did. "When Maki said she was going to sacrifice herself just now, I thought... Why? So many of our friends have sacrificed their lives? Why Maki? Why now? Why do we have to go through it again? The sorrow of losing Kaede, and Kaito... Why do we have to feel that sadness over and over and over again? Why do we have to bear that burden? Well I don't care how much the audience wants it. I'm not gonna feel that way anymore! I don't want anyone to feel that way anymore! Even if this is fiction, even if we're all fictional... the pain in my heart is real! The sadness I feel when I lose the people I love is real! I won't forgive this game that treats us like toys. And if this is what the world wants... then I reject that world! I reject the world that inflicts suffering for entertainment!" ~Shuichi Saihara, case 6 This is the point of the game. Right here. The pain and death of a fictional character is powerful enough to make you cry for them. If that isn't real, what's the point of discerning reality from fiction? A fictional character may not be real, and the stories they inhabit may not be real, but they are the lies that we tell ourselves, and thus we make them real. That's the point. The pain they feel is real because the pain 'you' feel 'for' them is also real. I hope the person who made this video, as well as those who agree with him, take time to really rethink their stance on this game. Kodaka isn't trying to insult you, or insinuate that your characters don't matter. He's doing the exact opposite. Think about it for a second, Tsumugi's perspective is the one that suggests that the characters are all fake and that none of them actually matter. She's the fucking VILLAIN! And yeah, she makes a pretty compelling case, literally wearing the skin of your favs and your waifus, but Shuichi's speech holds more depth and more meaning than her goofy cosplay antics. The pain in his heart is real, because Kodaka's pain is real, because Megumi Hayashibara's/Grant George's performance expressed that pain, and because you felt the meaning behind those words and they shook you. If not for this work of fiction, than certainly, at some point in your life, some other work of fiction must have done so, otherwise you wouldn't be nerd enough to have watched this video, let alone read my sappy youtube comment. Humanity transcends flesh and bone. I've said it multiple times across multiple websites, but I'll say it once more. Your waifu is real.

When I saw Gonta die, it really stung me.

Characters before the reveal: Loveable, eccentric people with interesting backstories and personalities trying to survive a killing game. Characters after the reveal: The only thing revealed about their backstories is that they auditioned for a reality show and had all their character traits and backstories programmed in. That shit cheapens the entire game.

Hated Danganronpa V3's ending. We know the characters aren't real, we know it's all game already; but we want to believe it's at least real for the characters. Pulling the "it's fictional" card is really similar to shows that pull a "it was all a dream" ending. If done correctly it can work but a lot of the times it leaves people with disappointment. I cared for the characters not only from the past Danganronpa games and series, but also the ones in V3. And now the games is telling me nothing mattered. My only hope right now is the "multi-verse" thing they seem to reference at the end of V3, I'm hoping they maybe end up things with "V3 was fake but the rest of the games did happen in a different universe" or something. Also, having a cliff hanger ending is nothing new for the series. We had that in pretty much every game and the series to some extent (the anime was more of an open ending), but V3 just overdid it. Finishing the game leaves you with more questions than answers and I personally think it's a horrible way to end a game. And whether that was the game's purpose or not, I still don't agree with it.

Danganronpa makes you fall in love with the characters, story, whole universe and then tears everything apart and makes you feel guilty for liking the fiction they've written

I was under the assumption the team behind Danganronpa was simply tired of all the fan pressure to continue the series on endlessly, so they found a way to end the series permanently, while still creating a ground breaking twist that I personally never saw coming. I went from being hyper invested in the first Danganronpa that I actually got to play myself rather than watching lets plays, and then immediately broken off. That kind of emotional shift isn't something that happens every day. Even when they were explaining what was happening, I kept waiting for it all to make sense. I loved this game from start to finish to this day. If there is one downside to the Danganronpa games, and games like Skyrim and Zelda, you can only experience it for the first time, once.

I don't understand why barley anyone likes Kaito. I loved him. He always reached for the stars, which inspired me. He was very caring. He took Shuichi and lit up his world. He was a true inspiration. With all me heart, I wish he didn't die. His confidence was beautiful. His words effected me. Some people don't like him because he was a believer. What is wrong with trusting and believing in people? His personality was so wonderful. I felt heartbroken when he died. When I think of his death, I feel like I am going to cry. How he tried to help Shuichi showed how good of a person he is. I'm sorry to those who can't see this like I do. I look up to him, even if he is fiction or not. Well, that is my opinion. Kaito, Luminary of the Stars, will forever hold a place in my heart. At least he achieved his dream before he left. I love you, Kaito. 🌠 (If you don't agree, please don't tell me in a toxic way. I hope we can agree to disagree. )

You know this video is incredibly long for the simple answer being they killed Gonta

07:26 - I couldn't agree more, honestly. I was replaying the first game not that long ago and, while the cases themselves felt a lot more basic than later games, it felt like the underlying plot was handled a *lot* better by comparison. Unlike later games, it didn't feel like they were trying to cram all of their endgame reveals into the 6th chapter for the sake of some last-minute """"epic twist"""" and even Junko was a lot more interesting as a mastermind, in contrast to how obligatory and irritating she felt in later instalments. The sad part is that, while I didn't quite tie the connection between the prologue and the game's twist in the same way that you did, I did figure for a while that the game was going to end up shooting for the meta angle (especially in regards to how weird it is that people would clamour for sequels to a series about high schoolers killing eachother) but ultimately the game's execution of it was so poor that, while I've sort of gotten over it now, it honestly did go a long way towards ruining the series for me for a short while.

Man V3 is the sole reason on why I'm ashamed of being a Danganronpa fan....

I actually didn't feel disappointed by the ending, but maybe it's just me. I think the point of it all was that even if it was a lie, it was *their* truth, they lived through those experiences and acted those personalities, thus making them "real lies" or "false truths" I guess.

I disagree. Heavily. Not just me, but many people as well. So me regurgitating what other people in this and other comment sections said is pointless. But... There _is_ something I wanna say. It's this: Thank you. Thank you for actually keeping an open mind and allowing people to discuss the ending and not just saying "it's bad" like it's some kinda fact.

The fact that so many people in the comments that like this game/ending are asserting that opposing opinions "just aren't getting it" is very telling of the poor execution of the ending itself (it also reveals unnecessary elitism). I don't like the ending, and believe me, I tried so hard to. As an artist and writer, I really tried (I'm still trying). But from a philosophical standpoint and the fact that I'm a person that does not like being spoon-fed the moral of the story, I just can't appreciate what this ending has done for my now-transformed perspective of this series. Some people (i.e, me) don't care for an obvious reminder of the "magical power of fiction that changes reality" within the medium (it's a natural fact for fans of the genre). The games were wacky from the start with Ultimates/SHSLs and social apocalypses, and adding a "yeah these backstories and personalities probably weren't real" can leave a bitter taste. Lastly, the type of mentality that questions others with different opinions as "uninformed" or "unintelligent" is why this ending, after all this time, remains controversial. I sincerely hope for more civil discourse.

The thing I don't understand is: Why was Kaede the blackened, if Tsumugi was the one who killed Rantaro? I just feel like Kaede was robbed, she even believed that she killed Rantaro even tho she didn't.

I wanted Kokicki to live 😔 even more now, I wanted to see what his reaction to all this would be..

I have the fondest memories form the first game as well for the same reason as you. I wish the 3rd game had something like a mystery. The 2nd game still had some unanswered questions from the first game, so it had something to work towards. There was just something missing from V3, and I thought the mastermind was rather obvious. I agree with 110% of everything you said in this video. Especially the "Atleast the Monokubs are gone".

I 100% agree with you. To be honest not liking the games ending and a part of the game is an unpopular opinion. Very few people didn't like it. That's ok. I just didn't like it at all. I post interesting immediately after chapter 1. I was extremely mad at Kaede's death. That genuinely pissed me off. However I got over it after I fell in love with Shuichi's character. I hated the fact that Tsumigi broke the rules to execute Kaede. Makes me feel a bit crappy about Kokichi. I mean his plan wouldn't have worked right? If Monokuma broke the rules before he would've done it again. Then again he might not have but I don't know. I also don't like how much Kodaka loves breaking the fourth wall. Even before v3 we all knew from DR and DR2 that he liked breaking the fourth wall as it very repetitive. There are things I do like! Personally I loved the characters of Danganronpa and felt much more connected to them than any of the other games. During the 6th chapter of V3 I just stopped caring after the whole "IT WAS ALLLLLL A LIE". I too felt like it was all meaningless after that. Maybe this is just up to personal preference. Some people enjoy the whole absurd ending and others found it to be cheap. Even though I like DR2 the most I respect the first games ending the most. Like you said it didn't have some cop out neo world program or the whole game is a TV show bullshit. It was an interesting twist with still an interesting ending that does leave it up to the imagination. (God I just full on ranted here none of this probably makes sense but I can't be bothered to check)

I’m guessing they won’t ever release another game as they’ve pretty much written themselves into a corner?

No matter how you interpret the ending, whether Tsumugi lied or not doesn’t change the fact that the ending as a whole was badly written.

im not sure what that really changes for me, that their back stories and characters overall are fake. It doesn't make Gonta less innocent, it doesn't make kokichi less of an adorable fucker, it doesn't make Kaede less of a good person and it certainly doesn't make kaito less awesome. I think what they did with the ending, yes, seems like a cop-out but underneath everything (forgetting the previous games) it poses one of the greatest questions ever posed in a video game. Would we still be us if everything about us was a lie? What if your childhood best friend who helped you through tough things in your life wasn't real? What if the people who cared most for you didn't exist? What if the very foundation of your love was fiction? Does that make you fiction? Someone else's imagination? Your likes, dislikes, personality are all completely tailored. Even your emotions. Yes, it's frustrating that their backstories aren't real, but does that make the characters less real? If this was a game where the characters where not interesting, flat and boring then the ending would have definitely been annoying. It's because we see the hardships and the struggles in Maki and we see the growth in Himiko and Suichi that this question holds any ground at all. It's so philosophical and real and that's why I love it.

"i always come back" - Junko

1. Kill Kaede That what they did wrong

I think the game's producer thought if they give people an ending like this they'll get angry and they won't want any new killing game. To summarize, they wanted to estrange people from Danganronpa. And we can say they did it. And I'm not sure but I remember I read somewhere, they didn't want to make any new Danganronpa games, they said they want to make new types of games.

The ending sucksss whyyyyyy did they do it

I get that the whole point of the "it's all fiction!" ending was to make the player feel despair, because there's nothing more disparaging to a player than to find out they wasted their time with a video game (or for it to just suck), but it feels like the game is talking down to the player or making fun of the fanbase for even caring about it in the first place. I know people who like the ending will say "well duh, it IS fiction, every video game and movie and story is fiction, that's the point, why get so worked up about fictional characters?" Yeah, well played Spike Chunsoft, well played. I do like the message behind the ending, it's just the way it's executed that I have a problem with. Trying to make the player feel guilty for enjoying the games, or getting invested in the characters. It feels like you're being talked down to, like "ha what an idiot for giving a crap about a fictional piece of work...and the fact you're getting worked up about it proves our point". But was that what the fanbase was asking for? An April Fool's joke ending? I still like DV3, and I even like the message and theme behind the ending, what with truth vs lies, reality vs fiction, but I don't feel like I can say DV3 is a canonical serious entry in the series. It's more like a spin off or a "what if" scenario, disguised as a true blue "threequel". I know Danganronpa was never a super serious franchise to begin with, I mean c'mon say "the biggest most horrible most awful tragedy in human history" outloud and tell me you don't snicker thinking a 10 year old wrote that. But it still had memorable likable and hateable characters you get invested in, and to be told the obvious, that they're all fictional and none of it matters as some sort of meta commentary just feels like a slap in the face. It almost feels like the creator whose name escapes me wanted to shoot Danganronpa dead in it's tracks. Imagine a future Kingdom Hearts game ending with Sora waking up in his bedroom with his mom calling him down for dinner and he's like "Sorry I overslept, I had this crazy dream about Donald and Goofy, I've been watching too many Disney movies lately". I think all Kingdom Hearts fans would quit video games forever.

But, buuut all of your opinion seems to be born from your choice to only judge the story when it was over, and that's what's dangerous, because seems to me like a meta-defense of "I don't want to be surprised, so I will wait until Chapter 6 to eventually have the answers and then I judge everything." when this is a mystery game (the fact it's called a game it's for you to feel "Fun" or any other emotion during all of the time you're playing) where you have to think (not became insane, but be thinking) constantly and yet feels the characters' feelings at the same time. In other words, mystery can be logic ALL the time and game can be emotion ALL the time. I'm not saying you aren't thinking by yourself, but the game recalls you several times to think harder with the the twist in Chapter 1 AND with the twist about the same case (Rantaro's case) that could be suspected if we thinked about the missing Monopad or the trajetory of the shotput ball in the images. Why am I bringing this up? Because I loved the ending and the epilogue, and both made me look like the story isn't over, because there's a giant mystery that I knew it's possible to resolve (I'm making a theory), and that really makes me wonder how much it's great to see what the truths and the lies of DRV3 are by myself (by checking the prologue, for example) and this giant Mystery makes me believe there's still more story in the future. Because Kodaka wanted to finish Hope's Peak arc, why didn't he would try to finish this whole new arc? Also, Shuichi kept repeating "The story isn't over." In the end. Also the feelings from each character, specially Kaede and Shuichi, made me feel like real feelings in Chapter 1 and this chapter already made me think DRV3 beats the other DR games in the "emotion" category. Since you blindly believed that "Everything is fake because it was scripted" from Tsumugi, I can say that human feelings always are real because they are only how we react to the information we are given. Of course, these emotions are temporary and loses more of it's value when the information given was being manipulated, but that doesn't mean any of the feelings in the game were fake (except, perhaps, Tsumugi's feelings) or lies. If it isn't in that way, then obviously moral lessons in story wouldn't be popular. Of course, that means TDR were kidding with the feelings and memories from the cast and making them of toys. And that's bg many Seasons. That's why it was almost unbelievable to me to see "the cast" wanting to die (well, "forget about everything you are" seems like wanting to die for me) and being toyed around by TDR and the audience. And of course, that's why I find Shuichi wanting everybody to sacrifice theirselves to finish this monster called "killing game" so sad at the same time só noble and cool. That's why I thinked Shuichi sharing his emotions and doubts about Tsumugi's words in the epilogue are great, because it looked to me that Kodaka was saying: "Yeah, I know how you feel and I'm not making these sick and twisteds stories of spreading despair without reason anymore, so just go do the mystery-fun and your treasure box is waiting you."

I wanted Kokichi to live so bad, I think V3's mistake was killing most of the cast off. The other games had at least five or six (I forget) survivers while V3, only had three survivors. I felt so much despair over Kokichi's death, I loved him so much

The enjoyment of the ending really depends on how you interpret it

I agree with this video and everything that's been said. As soon as the ending came on, i started to lose interest in what happened to the characters and everything started to seem fake. I would've preferred if they had just gone with a traditional well thought out ending. Also i don't get the argument "All fiction is fake, so them being selfaware doesn't really matter does it?" Imagine seeing Luke Skywalker not caring to destroy the Death Star because he knew it's all fiction anyways To me stories are ment to be kept immersive and realistic, and while Danganronpa is known to have some fairly unrealistic plots, it still works because of the great character development and long time spent in the setting. Them breaking the fourth wall just seems like throwing a great story into the trash bin and saying "Hey you cared about our characters so fiction is power" I've tried so many times to like V3's ending, and i know the majority finds it well made, but i just can't no matter how much i try. I still respect everyones opinion tho, regardless of if they like the ending or not.

"What Danganronpa V3 Did Wrong" Up Next: "Why Danganronpa V3's Plot is Brilliant" Huh.

DRv3 is the DR that disappointed me the most. First of all it's obviously because of the ending. I really didn't like it. I felt like the dev team was kicking the fans in the balls and laughed at them. The whole "It's all fake" is a plot device way too boring and convenient. You can explain ANYTHING with it. On top of that, I hated some characters, like Angie, and I loved some characters, like Gonta, but in the end it didn't matter because "it's all fake xdddd". And knowing that, I can't even just play the game again because I know the characters are fake. Then, Cases 3 and 4. Just my opinion but they felt like the worse cases ever in DR. Case 3 was so obvious. It could have been very interesting that there were two different killers. But no the 2nd murder was committed by the same murderer... On top of that I really liked the character but they decided to just make him an incestuous brother. Geez. But I guess I don't have to care since they're fake xdd. Also, the Scrum Debate was useless. "Let's decide to vote now or later, knowing that we are only sure of one of the murderers." I mean, OBVIOUSLY you should continue investigating and not vote for the first killer right now??? Anyway, about Case 4, it just felt so wrong and bullshit. I felt the game FORCED Gonta to be the culprit because he wouldn't hurt a fly by nature. Scrum Debate was the best minigame but they didn't use it to its full potentual IMO. The Hangman's Gambit was the worse thing ever. Mind Mine is the worst new minigame. Psyche Taxi should have been called Logic Drive but still was fun. Anyway it's just my opinion, you're free to have your own opinion on the game obviously.

If they ever make a Dr 4, it better be like some type of reboot instead of picking up on where v3 left off. Cuz if they do that, I be madddddd piss

*What they did wrong* They killed off Kokichi

At the 4:13 mark when Tsumugi said, "it's Junko Enoshima". An election ad played... hmmm

I’m just now discovering the details of the ending. I rage quit during trial 6 because it felt like the game was telling me I shouldn’t care about the danganronpa world.

This ending was so poorly executed.it it was cheap like all the characters you got to know meant nothing

The best thing V3 did: Giving us Kokichi. The worst thing V3 did: Killing Kokichi.

My problem is the cast in this game was so good, they get you all connected with the characters, waiting for the climax, but then...ITS ALL A LIE, ALL FICTIONAL, NOT REAL, DOESNT FUCKING MATTER, That ruined the whole thing, this game did right, even when I become concerned in the later parts of the game when everything is so absurd, like the academy being a space ship, gofer project, earth destroyed by meteorites, and a virus from it kills humanity, I still...believed I wanted to believe that the game will turnout this whole thing interesting, based on my experience with the series, but it turned out even worst... Cuz guess what? Oh, you like that character and its development? its pre written, doesn't matter. Like this plot? Geuss what doesn't matter, cuz guess what again? Yes...NOT REAL, it also ruined the feelings I had for years with the old characters, thats even also turned out to be fake, not only did V3 ruin it self, but it also ruined the whole saga...

It makes me feel sad when they say all the back story is fake

Would you say that this ending was... Despair inducing? In all seriousness, I don't think you should go through the final trial and ending focusing on how you feel about the game; your supposed to put yourself in the shoes of shuichi and the others and feel what they feel. After losing hope and being destroyed by despair ( which I think being told that your whole life and everything you know was fake; on top of actually being a murder obsessed person who volunteered for this game, is one of the most despair inducing things ever) they come together and decide to live; make a life for themselves and end the game they supposedly volunteered for. That would take a lot of Hope to accomplish. And a lot of bravery. And you are supposed to empathize and feel that despair and hope with them.

THEY KILLED KAEDE THATS WHAT

V3's ending felt like the TYBW arc of Bleach, where the author was at their wit's end with the series and just didn't want to bothered with it anymore, so they wrote it off in a way to completely disregard the previous stories without care of whether or not it was relatively cohesive. I'm also just... not a fan of the messaging behind it. The ending just feels like an edgy high schooler pulling the whole "humanity fucking sucks and you're fucking sick for enjoying things!!!!!!!!!!!" without much to counterbalance it, aside from Shuichi's lines at the very end. I totally get why people like V3, but the ending just leaves a bad taste in my mouth at the end of the day. Simply just not for me.

I Just Feel Bad For Kaede .

i'm completely on your side with this, when i saw the ending for the first time it pissed me off so much that i'm now skeptical about playing another danganronpa game in general now.

All of the characters were so insufferable I literally dropped the game at the start of the second investigation. Their personalities are just pushed way too hard to be likeable for me. In the first and second game the characters still felt believable and slowly showed their traits through time. When I play this game I feel the characters are almost fighting for attention with their one trait. "I'm Miu, I make perverted jokes constantly all the time and that's all I do!", "I'm Tenko, and men are degenerates!" etc. Even within the context of it being a tv show these characters aren't supposed to know that so it doesn't make sense for them to try to push these personality traits so hard. I lose respect for them as characters immensely because even if I think they can say some funny things I feel like they immediately follow up with the equivalent of "get it! it's because that's my whole character! Let me do it 5 more times so you understand that's who I am!" Even if the ending was terrible like the second game, I would totally be willing to overlook it if it did the characters and story right for the most part.

V3's ending was probably my favorite. It was much more complex and left a lot more up to you. The other games ended with 'hope is better than despair lol' but V3 kept the theme of truth vs lies till the last line. The end made a lot of sense to me and I understood before they even had to explain it all haha. It provoked a lot of though on wether truth or lies or even just plain belief was better. And I like that they added the Tsumugi line at the end to make room for theories. This came so close to beating DR1 as my fav but nostalgia always wins for me lol. I loved almost every character, the gameplay, the trials, and the twists. I get why some people don't like the end but honestly it probably was the most complex and thought out endings in DR and I was glad they didn't try to fall back on 'despair ruined everything but hope saved the day'

I personally had no problems with the ending and think V3 is the best game from the entire franchise thus far but this video was pretty interesting! However (granted I might be a little bias because V3 is my favorite video game of all time) I don't think that it really mattered at all the characters where just fictional, since in the end ever since the beginning all the danganronpa characters have been fictional and not meaning like they've always been mugi'd I mean like danganronpa is a game at the end of the day it's all fiction I don't think it should be any different for the V3 characters just because they're basically actors who were brainwashed and besides I personally think the idea of kids volunteering to kill each other for a tv show is much more interesting than Junko and her magic anime shit (I'm not a fan of DR3) Mugi was basically what I was hoping to see Junko do in DR3 manipulate people using her talent not using random effects while she murders Chiaki. However Mugi is a much weaker villain than Junko and parts of her came off as just a fangirl for her OC.

"The next three fucking hours are just the game covering its ass and trying to explain to its fans why they shouldn't be pissed" This is the P r i m a r y thing that decimated this for me. "Everything being fake," especially the characters memories, was clearly foreshadowed and if they could just shut up and trust that people got the TOTALLY OBVIOUS FORESHADOWING and stopped talking around the same topic, then it would have been something that made me think a bit, but instead I had this all consuming fury at being talked down to for H O U R S. And when the foreshadowing is so badly wrapped up, it makes the sense of half-assedness caused by the clearly fake backstory not work as an internal production flaw for the people organizing the reality show, and instead just makes it feel like the game was made badly. And I mean like as an artist I can respect telling your audience, "NO, No, this is over, this is done, I'm making a shitty product so none of you ever ever hound me for more of it again." But then?? They show that Shuichi's resolve means nothing when they survive and it's like the team is saying, "We hate this series and want it to die, but don't yell at us and please keep buying it?" If they don't actually hate it then they're just so self absorbed they stopped paying attention to what makes a story in order to wank off at how vague they can be for waaaaaaaaaaay too long.

Please, someone make a quick stupid spoof of this. Make junko say "well, how are you going to end this killing game" Then cut back to sushi-chi looking all depressed and then he just looks at the camera, gives a big ol' smile and says "llliiiiikkeee this!" Cut to black, roll credits really fast, genius

The worst things they did was killed off kirumi and gonta and make kokichis existence

"What V3 did wrong" Killed Gonta.

Kaedead was a better protagonist than succi

I hate stories that start to get really good, and then say none of it actually happened because it is essentially saying you know all those characters or anything from the games you actually liked? Yeah, they never existed, now have fun playing matrix! You can't even say I am wrong.

Ending spoilers When Tsumugi said it was fiction, I legit had to pause the game. ALL of the tension instantly died there. Really, Kodaka? Did you read that line? Did anyone genuinely read that? Did y'all read that and say "Yep, that's our ending!" You built up so much emotional baggage, and wanted us to have it all mean something, but "it's all fiction." You had 16 people actually thrown in space to repopulate mankind, in order to escape the Earth becoming void of humans, but "it's all fiction." You had us actually have fun playing most of the game, but "it's all fiction." You could've, AND I SHIT YOU NOT, just done what DR2 did and confirm whether or not everyone's actually dead, and if this killing game happened for real, without any gaping plot holes, BUT "it's all fiction." YOU CAN'T JUST SAY IT'S FICTION. THAT LINE IS THE EXACT DAMN REASON WHY THIE ENDING, AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE REST OF THE GAME, DOESN'T WORK! YOU STOPPED DOEN TO THE LOWEST COMMON DENIMINATOR, AND JUST DID WHAT ALL OTHER COPOUT ENDINGS DID, AND JJST DID A GLORIFIED "it was just a dream bro" SCHTICK! YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE WITHOUT BEING LAUGHED AT! EVERYTHING WE'VE WORKED FOR, EVERY CHARACTER WE'VE COME TO KNOW, EVERY PIECE OF HYPE SURROUNDING THIS OVER TWO HOUR ENDING, EVERY FUCK WE GAVE ABOUT WINNING THIS, GONE, REDUCED TO ATOMS BECAUSE IT'S... fictional. This game is awful. Nope, I've decided. This makes the Danganronpa 3 anime look like masterpieces.

I just wanted Rantaro and Kaede to live, they're infinitely more interesting than Shuichi or Tsumigi. Made the game after Case 1 a lot less interesting for me. Ending twist is interesting but also depressing since it was all pointless and none of the characters were what you thought they were.

I thought the ending was terrible. Not only did it take away everything away from the characters, how it says: "all the violence was wrong because these fictional charatcers are REAL PEOPLE with FEELINGS" was stupid, among many other problems that I don't want to rant about in a long-ass comment.

In terms of what V3 did wrong, in my opinion, it simply didn't capitalize on the unique premise of Danganronpa being a reality show to justify the plot twist. While it's hard to say exactly what they could've done to make if better, I do have two examples that did an amazing job with a similar concept. The two I know best are Danganronpa 2 and Driver: San Francisco. I'll just explain each real quick and what they did right. In Danganronpa 2 the plot twist makes sense and explains many of the seemingly insane powers Monokuma had. From a virus he has total control over, to being able to manufacture an obnoxiously trippy "funhouse" to the weird but not overplayed intro motife, the plot twist was the key to explain all of that. However, despite being in a simulation, all of their actions still had meaning. While the obvious traight of "dying in the game causes you to almost die in real life" is sort of obvious, what I really mean is that they are able to defeat the evil Junko AI and ultimately undo their despair selves, despite having their memories erased. I'm not going to lie, there were a few moments where I didn't like the ending, but when the final screen showed a recovered Hajime looking towards the horizon, it proved the story did have meaning. The other example is Driver San Fransisco. While I'm not as familiar with this game (I haven't replayed it in many years, and can't play if again due to it seemingly not being playable anymore), I still remember the gist of it's plot point. Essentially, the twist that you are in a coma is once again vital to the story of the game. The main mechanic is more or less body swapping into random vehicles to take control of them. While intialy explained as a weird power you woke up with, the game uses that mechanic for many interesting moments, such as a scene where you play as the enemy chasing down yourself. Regardless, the game eventually tells you that you are in a coma, but rather than have it end there, you as the player must go through a now weirder world inside your brain to escape. It explores more creative mechanics around this, such as everything being frozen except you hunting down the mcguffin enemy who somehow let's you escape the coma. Ultimately the game uses it's coma world plot twist as an essential part of the story and game. It might not have the same meaning in a larger context as in DR2, but it still makes for a satisfying conclusion and game, which largely couldn't have worked another way. And that is where V3 fails in my eyes. The Danganronpa Reality show feels like it was just slapped on there. Aside from the very early proluoge, the game doesn't capatalize or integrate the plot twist in any way. If they had sprinkled more clues throughout, reworked the story to fit it better, and tweeked the ending to tie into the truth v lies theme better than just "everything you just invested time into was a lie," it could have been alright, but even then I don't think it would be satisfying. I personally think a different ending entirely would have fit better.

There's a lot of things that bothered me from this game, but one of them was the inconsistency with Tsumugi's Ultimate She's supposed to cosplay fictional character ONLY but when we reach the ending it's revealed that everyone's part of that fiction, so, the "Cospox" shouldn't even have happened before.

Omg I agree so much with you Its like you read my mind or something.. this danganronpa v3 had so many potential with its character,story,tricks, and quality and then the ending just blowed up everything, it disappointed me a lot.

I wanted Kokichi the ultimate roaster to live :(

I get what your saying and I agree with it but I enjoyed it just for how it said the fans were the reason that the killing game became a thing it made me think about what would actually happen if something like this was allowed to take place in the real world

My top 4 danganronpa games (from best to worst) 1. Super danganronpa 2 2. Dangonronpa:happy trigger havoc 3.Ultimate despair girls 4. dangonronpa V3

Hey OP since you saw the twist coming from the prologue, did you notice that the killers and some victims all followed a pattern based on previous games? It hard to say that this game had the "best" cases when you catch onto it. Like for example, Kirumi and Peko are both silver haired, emotionless, and commit a murder in service of a "master" of some kind? And in their execution, they try to run and escape their punishment? Kaede and Sayaka both have talents related to music and commit a first murder. The first blackened is executed in a way mocking their talent. Gonta and Gundam both worked with animals of some kind, and in their execution they're destroyed by the very thing they loved the most. The third killer is doing it for the vein of some form of twisted love, and Korekiyo is basically a reverse of Genocider (only kills females, as opposed to only males). And both Tsumugi and Junko have talents related to some form of fashion. I've seen a lot of discussion about this and pointing it out, and the more you think about it, the worse the aftertaste of V3 becomes. It doesn't help that V3 was constantly touted as something new and 100% original by Kodaka. Tbh, I think Kodaka was just DONE. And like you, I can no longer geek out about the characters like I used to and the V3 cast is the cast I feel the least attached to. I had such high hopes for these characters and their story, which would have NO references at all to the past few games. I really wanted something brand new and, knowing it was the last, self-contained. Instead, I got the biggest disappointment I'd felt in a long time. I'm glad to finally see a video expressing someone feeling the same way. Thanks for not sucking SC's dick, OP, seriously. Good video.

When I think back about the characters and all that, I just forget about the ending, because the characters within the reality show were still great, even if they weren't "real", like every other videogame character out there.