I feel it makes sense that the advent of a more advanced writing system would in turn advance human thought who can then come up with such grand scale ideas like good and bad, an afterlife, that surpass the subsistent lifestyle

I love this . that period of history is always fascinated me . especially during the 600 s and 500 s BC . I always wondered at the development of Continental trade routes and the building of ancient roads had something to do with the spread of ideas across these different civilizations hey then adapted some of these ideas to the circumstances of their culture .

this is a really good video but there are a few parts you got wrong in it. mentioning that the egyptians or the greek had pantheons based on primitive sacrifice for some form of magickal boon or gain. the book "the secret teachings of all ages - Manly P. Hall" is a book on occultism and esotericism and in it it explains the deeper meaning behind the myths and how that these secrets esoteric meanings to their religions were only shown to the priests for deeper understangs for what the gods were representitive of in forces of nature. the idea of going away from offering to gods to then being "god" on earth through good ethics is also found throughout all of these religions. a further argument for that the actual opposite is true of the two different type of axial age. the path of maat for instance is mentioned in the egyptain book of the dead and describes how the journey through the underworld, it then explains what each part of the myth is representative of and how it relates to the narrative. a further book to study on this would be "meditation: the ancient egyptain path towards enlightenment - muata ashby"

Im wondering if the Central and South American civilisation that seems to be talking place around the same period as the axial region of the other side of the world has been considered by the same scholars?

I've been looking for someone to explain the concept of "the golden thread through all religions" and so far your channel has come the closest to doing that.

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The Old Egyptian religion is the oldest with an afterlife and judjement. Egypt also for a short period had monothiesm.😊

It's very clear that Christianty developed at a time of vigorous philosophical thought (Seneca was born the same year as Jesus). It occurs to me that more sophisticated writing developed to sustain more complex socieities, with greater population density/coordination. As this developed, these philisophical questions naturally arose. It wasn't just 'how do I get resources ' but also, 'how do I live with my fellow man in a stable (safe) society '. Taoism arose out of the 'warrimg states' period.. people wanted social harmony. Christianity arose at a time when Jews felt supressed by Roman rule. Mentally humans were looking beyond basic resources, to survival when there were all sorts of social pressures and risks.

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All that you mentioned seemed to arrive at the cycle where faith had a period of purpose, reason, and place to believe.

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Like many theories, there are more than a few wrinkles in it. Socrates was still worshiping the Old Gods despite his philosophy.

I think that the desire to create over-arching narratives often overrides the actual evidence to support such. And lets not forget ego. Whether or not the ideas pan out is pretty hit and miss.

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Love this! thank you! A lot is being over simplified, understandable for the sake of a shorter video. One big one that stood out to me is that Lao Tzu was not just one man.

Age of cause and reaction. Zarathustra might be dated 1700 to 1500 BC and lived in Afghanistan.

The Jews did not encounter the steppe horsemen, but they picked up a lot during their sojourns in Egypt and Babylon. Like the Greeks, their, and our, alphabet was gifted by the Phoenicians, a most interesting seafaring people who seemed to have minimised warfare and relied on trade for their expansion. The axial period and its usefulness as a lens for historic consideration may be due to the development of writing, and its preservation of non-oral records, thus fixing thought into a permanence previously unlikely. Thanks for your overview.

I like the spiritually , philosophy and spiritual philosophy idea of the line. From Egypt to China. West to East. Funny how Christian and Muslim are outside the line. But are the two biggest religion in the world . Sikhism is outside the time line . But is popular .. But sinduism is 4th. The 3rd is a mix of atheist, agnostic, etc, so not really a spiritual movements. But we're does the Vedic come into the line. Before the line or after? . Yet ,I have noticed that India still comes out with new ideas. And though the USA is West and classed as money mad. They come out with new spiritual and philosophy ideas . And california seems to be on that line. Interesting subject. ✌👾

I don't know the secret of the world, but I think there were more axis ages than we used to know before the awakening 😉😉😉

They had contact Much earlier with thoth . Look at Sumerian text. Take that how you may.

Greeks got alphabet from Phoenician traders.

The significance of Zarathustra is far far too overlooked. He is the most important of all these thinkers, whose doctrine led to all that came after. He is the first philosopher.

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The concept is a good shorthand for framing history. Even if it isnt absolutely scientific. From 3000 BC to 500 BC civilizations followed dogmas. Then around 500 BC thinkers around the world began to do free thinking and debate to figure out this thing called "civilization"- how do we manage this thing. These thinkers created new creeds, ideologies, and relgions. Then AFTER that age the civilizations used these creeds to...shut down debate, and return to unquestioning dogma for -the following 2000 years. Christ and Mohammed were just following and developing the creeds of the axial age. What spawned the axial age was probably urbanization combined with (as the video suggested) better writing systems. The rise of an urban merchant class spurred the rise of Buddhism in ancient India, and would later spawn the Protestant Reformation in northern Europe 2000 years later.

All of these cultures shared this information via trade. Its not hard to understand. I do have a problem with Judaism being a part of this group . They kept to their ways until the came in contact with Persians through conquest. The Greeks got all of their theology from Egypt. They may have built on it. But you give them to much credit.

7:10 It's inaccurate to characterize the Mauryan empire as Buddhist. While Ashoka is crucial to the spread of Buddhsim, the rest of the Mauryan dynasty was just as likely to be Jain or Brahmin as Buddhist. If anything Brahmin seems to be the default. Also the point about writing doesn't apply to Buddhism. The Buddhist Suttas were famously compiled during a pre-literate period and handed down by rote memorization within the Sangha. They were written down and organized into the "three baskets" or Tipitaka about 400 years after Goatama's parinibana during the 4th Buddhist council.

The axial age is a theory of history that removes Jesus and Moses from world history (Eric Voegelin). And Mohammed, too. Jaspers was not the first to create this theory (Ernst von Lasaulx). Zarathustra didn't live in the 7th century b.c., as Jaspers believed, but in the 12th century b.c. thus creating a broad axis consisting of the third of known history (Jan Assmann).

The case of Jesus and Mohammed is that they continued existing thought process and ideas propounded by the Hebrew prophets They did not originate new thought. Thus the axial age really did exist because at that time more than ever in history, philosophers arose in almost every civilization in the world, having no contact with each other but asking the same life questions and seeking solutions

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Dr. Albert Einstein just described what The Buddha already knew 500BC Einstein concluded from his E= mc squared Energy is constant it cannot be created nor destroyed it just takes another form! K

Interesting that our thumbs are also known the pre axial digits. Hmmmm

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Judaism is included but Christianity excluded, even though Christianity brought a ground-breaking innovation into Judaism: that Gentiles can join the faith without circumcision and adopting Jewishness as an ethnic identity. Maybe the biggest practical difference between Judaism and Christianity is that Christianity separates ethnicity from faith completely, which ended up separating the religions too. That I would call one of the biggest watershed changes in the history of religion. I think it originated in early Zoroastrianism but came into fruition in Christianity. It has also changed the social fabric, because religiosity based on personal faith rather than birth emphasises individuality over the collective, which lays a foundation for further development in individual critical thinking in the society.

I would not include the Hebrew prophets, or say that Jesus and Mohammed invalidate the Axial Age theory. The Levant became part of the Greek sphere in 330 BC and some scholars suggest that the Hebrew Bible was compiled as late as 270 BC. By the time we get to the first century AD, we find the apostle Paul who was Jewish, but a native Greek speaker and well versed in Platonism, Stoicism, and Cynicism as evident in his letters. The gospels themselves do not appear until the early 200's and as Greek literature. Current religious scholarship sugggests Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were all ultimately grounded in the Greek philosophical culture of the Axial Age so should not be counted apart from it.

All my life I was led to believe first was polytheism then much later monotheism showed up. But lately, various sources, including this one, point to very ancient belief in the latter. Note also, Jesus is the divine fulfilment of Judaism -present in the Axial Age. Oh , and consider the Magi story: Wise ones from the East read the stars that the King of the Jews would be born and traveled to worship the Christ Child.

Zoroaster he might have been a prophet among the prophets of Allah. In Islam means submission to Abraham submitted. some of these religions mentioned that being.

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It's absurd to me about the false belief in a graven image such as the "cross".... The symbology of all these "Christ" figures is lost to literalism through religion... Shame...

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do it wrong and collapse by an outsider force came out of nowhere like the greek china roman hun mongol

They are all extraterrestrials

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Your iteration of quotation marks is the OPPOSITE of scholarly & detracts from the content. Pronounce Taoism with an initial D.

They all went into a bar, and the barman said: "What is this - some kind of a joke?"

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I think it's crazy that if you describe a time period, your idea just get's selled. There's no mentioning about how this is his idea, and that it's just his idea as it would happen in other topics. Nope. The time period between 800 BC and 200 BC is the Axial age. Written in the collective consciousness. Not to be deleted. I need to become a historian then I can become famous too and people don't question me.

Quran tells us that we had so many messengers of God and with time people changed the message according to people's advantage. Every religion talks about oneness of God.

They all from the same crew......

Buddha, Confucius, Zoroaster, Jesus, Mohammed, Krishna, Shiva, Vishnu and Brahman did not literally exist, but Socrates did.

Now Buddha is white but the man we all know is black

CONGRATULATIONS, "BOOK OF KINGS!!! It's impressive how selective and Scholastic ignorance can create a jungle of edited pretention of "Knowledge". It serves the purpose of the dumbing down of the manipulation of "ACADEMIA", but it mostly contribute to the misrepresentation that is the mainstay of "The Church" the "Clergy" and the likes. It's like the shuffling of fabricated doctrines, certified Myths and misplaced Deities. It satisfies the dictates of the impostor ruler of the past 4+ millennium.

perhaps some of these people didn't exist...

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No. The theory is incorrect. To begin with 'Dharma is not Religion.' Dharmas (Buddha, Vishnu, Shiva, Jain, Tantra, Sikh, etc.) are about seeking truth ‘Satya’ and disciplines of inner progress ‘Yoga.’ Dharmas overlap, learn from each other, and don’t fight. Hinduism is the collection of all the Dharmas evolved in our region. It is a geographical definition, not doctrinal. The central theme of Dharmas is inner and outer Peace. Dharmas are different spiritual paths \ margas \ ways \ disciplines. It is up to an individual to be interested or practice any, all, or none. Religions (Christianity, Islam, Communism, Fascism, etc.) are brainwashing systems for social control. Each claims exclusive truth, all others evil, and assumes divine right and duty to attack others, Violence is the central theme. Religions are sets of doctrines to believe and sets of commandments to obey, without any questions. This is militarization of society which is the totalitarian control of individuals leading to 'we vs. they', 'we are superior', ‘misogyny’, and 'violence.’ By the way, Vedas are at least 21,000 years old. Ramayana over 14,000 years ago, Mahabharat over 7,000 years ago. Time line - Mahabharata & Ramayana: Nilesh Oak; Jaipur Dialogues, 2020 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hciUeq530LmuhKs.html

Let me guess, they are all INDO-Europeans?! LOL

What do they have in common.....they're all dead.

It isn't Religion or man made Reglions that is going to save the world.its Going to be Jesus Christ the original and only 1God he is coming to Earth no one else .The Bible is real and 100 💯 true and bible prophecy is jumping of the pages .💯🌈❤️🦁🙏

Astagfirullah I can't eat the food of budish🤔,may Allah forgive me,budish and Hindu is similar worshipping stone idles.may Allah 🙏 guide us to beautiful way.

They are all dead

No women philosophers? No brown philosophers? Only depictions of Europeans...interesting..