What even is Black IPA? | The Craft Beer Channel

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Jonny and Brad dive into the style that no one quite understands - and get themselves in a twist by the end too. What is a Black IPA, and what should it taste like - a hoppy Stout? An American Porter? An IPA with a hint of dark malt? Just an IPA?
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@Srups11HD
@Srups11HD 3 жыл бұрын
No chance of a copyright strike from that rendition, gents.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha what are you trying to say?!
@RobTyler93
@RobTyler93 3 жыл бұрын
That intro had me in bits. Glad to see you boys really enjoying yourself as mates, oh and you happen to do a show too 😌
@MichaelAndersen_DK
@MichaelAndersen_DK 3 жыл бұрын
Forest fire is one of the best descriptions of how a beer can smell. Thanks Brad :D It always amazes me how some people can make the spot on metafors of how beer/vine etc smell and taste.
@adamlowe9214
@adamlowe9214 3 жыл бұрын
Oooo, thanks guys! My absolute favorite style of beer! I hope you're right that it's coming back in because I haven't had one in years.
@chrisgreen6259
@chrisgreen6259 3 жыл бұрын
This is possibly the most hipster look Brad has had since lockdown.
@eirikuthus
@eirikuthus 3 жыл бұрын
That Kernel Export Porter really reminded me of the best black IPAs I had years ago. It's really good.
@michaelshanebeck2366
@michaelshanebeck2366 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite beers ever was a black IPA from Firestone Walker: Wookey Jack. Very complex, dark coffee, roasted malt, significantly (but not overwhelmingly) bitter.
@garethvenables9607
@garethvenables9607 3 жыл бұрын
I brewed a black ipa with chinook and citra and it's one of the best beers I've ever made. Planning another one soon.
@danmarshall5895
@danmarshall5895 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if Brad is describing a Black IPA or me. Bitter, burnt and toasty with a little darkness and some coffee in there.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It is truly a style that speaks for me. An enigma, with coffee.
@Dutchbeergeek
@Dutchbeergeek 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see more black ipa's love the style.
@jmay3200
@jmay3200 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had the Siren and Signature and really enjoyed them - best of both worlds good malty aftertaste
@zeveroarerules
@zeveroarerules 3 жыл бұрын
The best beer style ever. I'd drink it every day if they made more different ones. Dark Sister by Brussels Beer Project is a fine example imo.
@derek8272
@derek8272 2 жыл бұрын
Missing the best black IPA out there! Kinnegar Black Bucket. simply fantastic beer!
@CephBacon
@CephBacon 2 жыл бұрын
One of my local brewers has a black IPA going year round, slight malt and coffee notes, but still strongly an IPA with loaw carbonation and really velvety mouthfeel
@MarvinModuto
@MarvinModuto 3 жыл бұрын
Black IPA has always been my favorite style bu definitely saw the disappearance of the last 3 years. Just picked up the last two 6 packs of Stone Sublimely Righteous from my local grocery store bc I was so excited to see it back! But my first memory of a Black IPA was Firestone Walkers Wooky Jack which is still my favorite of all beers to drink! Great roasty pine flavors throughout! Thanks for the great watch Guys! BIPA to the Moon!
@frankmcdonald66
@frankmcdonald66 3 жыл бұрын
I had the Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous in Florida about ten years ago. I have looked for it on all my travels since. I buy it whenever I see it. I love that beer.
@MrEzzio05
@MrEzzio05 3 жыл бұрын
A smaller amount of Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous is coming to Europe in the next weeks. Can’t wait to try.
@viper29ca
@viper29ca 3 жыл бұрын
Love a good black IPA. Should be piney, grapefruit citrus, with a roasted note. Used to be probably 5-10 local breweries that made them maybe 3-5 yrs ago, now down to 1 that does one year round as a core beer, and 1 that does one as a seasonal. There was one from a brewery a province over that we used to get here, that was the best, but no longer brews it. Thankfully they have shared the recipe so us home brewers can try it on our own. Black Banks Cascadian Ale 5Gal/19l 6.3%, 54IBU, SRM 27 81.6% 2 Row 6.1% Carafa Special III 6.1% Crystal 40 6.1% Vienna 14.25 grams of Simcoe @60 (0.5oz for the metrically impared) 28.5 grams of Simcoe @10 28.5 grams of Amarillo @0 42.75grams of Simcoe dry hop 3 days 42.75grams of Amarillo dry hop 3 days Water profile like you would a west coast IPA If you want a little more smoke to it, add a handful of smoked malt, or to add a bit of sweetness and smoke, a handful of Cherry Smoked malt. More coffee character, just add some coffee to the end of the boil
@gavinbaxter5588
@gavinbaxter5588 3 жыл бұрын
Had a lovely Black IPA last night on the Beer Fridge Podcast. A collab from new brewery Trinity and Green Duck. Definitely give it a try. Keep up the good work
@patricksandquist6005
@patricksandquist6005 3 жыл бұрын
♥️BIPA. Was lucky enough to try Society & Solitude #2 and El Jefe back to back for my first experience and I've been a fan of the style ever since. Enjoying a TRVE Black Cascade right now!
@kevinpayne3482
@kevinpayne3482 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoying a “Dante fiero” an Italian style lager from my local brewery, the brickyard brewing company, here in Lewiston New York. Enjoying the latest craft beer channel episode
@edgeofwest5741
@edgeofwest5741 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love BIPA. Blacks of Kinsale brewery here in Ireland have one in their core range and whenever I see it I buy. I'm that guy that would happily drink a BIPA everyday
@carlstatham594
@carlstatham594 3 жыл бұрын
That Kernal is one of my favourite beers ever.
@richharper8159
@richharper8159 3 жыл бұрын
First ever was Wookey Jack in a bar in Washington. The rye and higher abv defo works in its favour.
@ggbrady
@ggbrady 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, my boys! You finally did it! My favorite beer on the planet!
@thenintendogamer9318
@thenintendogamer9318 2 жыл бұрын
Eight Arch Layer Cake is a fantastic Black IPA
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 2 жыл бұрын
You are right! Love that beer.
@mrkangaroo83
@mrkangaroo83 3 жыл бұрын
One stand out BIPA for me recently has been Carnival and Fuerst Wiacek's Together Tomorrow Forever. It's a properly piney west coast BIPA!
@gingerbeardbrewing1288
@gingerbeardbrewing1288 3 жыл бұрын
This was a good one! We reviewed a Dark Horse Brewery "reserved Black Ale" and decided it was actually a BIPA
@adammyren8279
@adammyren8279 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Just found your channel and I'm loving it! I got to be a patriot and ask if you could try beers from Swedish breweries? I can recommend some of my favorites: Stigberget Brewery, Apex Brewing Company, Fermenterarnas, O/O Brewing and Duckpond Brewing. Most of them are located in Gothenburg. Cheers!
@jaymckay4086
@jaymckay4086 3 жыл бұрын
I love black ipa. Always wanted to find a good beer to use Vic Secret hops on, this style it does well.
@JS-vn9we
@JS-vn9we 3 жыл бұрын
For me the first Black IPA that deserved its name and wasn't either predominantly malty or predominantly hoppy is Black Malts & Body Salts 2.0 by To Øl out of To Øl City. How you can have such a mix of different tastes within a single sip I have only experienced before in barrel aged stouts/porters, while sour beers / IPAs are usually more straightforward and unidimensional (which isn't bad necessarily).
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that beer so well - it was one of the best of that brewery's early days. Really complex and moreish.
@Antonymgibson
@Antonymgibson 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great style. I can highly recommend the Jopen Maria Magdalena series of Black IPA's from Haarlem in the Netherlands. Each featured a prominent hop combination... latest was Citra/Mosaic. And from the South-west, St Austell Proper Black IPA is also very solid. #BlackIPAsMatter
@Brockdorf
@Brockdorf 3 жыл бұрын
I cant believe I just made a Black IPA that turned out great, so happy with this.
@TimFitzwater
@TimFitzwater 3 жыл бұрын
I agree - to me a Black IPA is a West Coast with a hint of the characteristics of darker malts. A brewery in Cleveland, OH called The Brew Kettle has been making their White Rajah west coast IPA for a long time and then started making a black version called Black Rajah. Alll the same hops - to me it is one of the perfect examples of the style.
@TheCoddfather
@TheCoddfather 3 жыл бұрын
Had Neon Raptor X Black Iris - Rattlesnake Chalice recently and it absolutely nailed the style. Well worth checking out!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Love Black Iris - will seek it out
@justina.6769
@justina.6769 3 жыл бұрын
I tried my 1st Black IPA when I started my craft beer journey back in 2015 I think. Anyway, I tried "Firestorm" by Big Storm Brewing in Odessa, FL and I loved it! If I'm out at a craft brewery I'll get one if there is one on the menu, but for some reason I won't buy it when I see it in the stores in cans or bottles.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Totally get this - there are quite a few styles I rarely buy in can or bottle but always grab on draft. I think at home I like the pale sipping beers, and when out at a craft beer place I mix it up more.
@paintedcash
@paintedcash 3 жыл бұрын
You're reading my mind with these videos! Just brewed a black IPA last month. Had midnight wheat in the malt bill with magnum, centennial, citra and chinook hops. Turns out perfect every year. Pine and grapefruit fighting for attention on the nose. They're there with a pinch of roast on the back half of the taste. Nice medium to full mouth feel. Cheers!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great hop choices for this style! We like them a little lighter than full mouthfeel - like the classic west coasters that often used sugar to bump the ABV without the extra body.
@paintedcash
@paintedcash 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great idea for next years batch. Thanks for the idea!
@martingenerous1678
@martingenerous1678 3 жыл бұрын
Yes on the Midnight wheat. I used falconer flight
@defthoms
@defthoms 3 жыл бұрын
such a tricky style, I have tried many but so few have hit the spot of combining my love for IPA and PORTER/STOUT. I think the best one I have ever had is "Hophorn" from HORNBEER brewery in denmark. it is 9,3% so more an I(mperial)BIPA but pretty damn good.
@jublaim
@jublaim Жыл бұрын
I'm quite a fan of Black IPA. In Sweden I think Lilla Edets Craftwerk 3.0 is a good candidate.
@jonnyrmoore
@jonnyrmoore 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with your definition. Had a few Black IPAs that are just "painted black" at homebrew competitions. **** the BJCP🖕😅
@stevelewis199
@stevelewis199 3 жыл бұрын
Not my favourite style of beer but the kernel export India is one of my favourite beers. Kernel can't really do much wrong in all honesty! I would love for you guys to do some work with them at some point. A great brewery who have definately stayed grounded and know how to please the people.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
We'd love to do a piece with them. We did an episode with Evin on The Bubble (our podcast) but never filmed there. One day.
@jameskeogh6545
@jameskeogh6545 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite style. Great video guys
@KCJbomberFTW
@KCJbomberFTW 3 жыл бұрын
Give me some examples dawg 😛
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah any we should look into as a BIPA lover?
@jameskeogh6545
@jameskeogh6545 3 жыл бұрын
Sign of the southern cross by Weird Beard. Dark side of the moob by northern monk, The darkness within by Leviathan and rattlesnake chalice by Neon Raptor have been great. The Malt Miller's Stone Self richeous IPA also brews nicely at home 👍🍻
@kitoushi66
@kitoushi66 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Ruse Brewing out of Portland, OR has a black IPA that may fit the profile you are speaking about. it's called Dark Beyond the Stars. I enjoyed it for the same reasons why you had mentioned. There may be some cans flowing around. I recommend checking that out. /shrug
@TheHoumann
@TheHoumann 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best BIPA I've had, is Beerbibliotek's Crossing the Streams in the Dark (#297).. thus recommended! :)
@ATL-xi7lo
@ATL-xi7lo 3 жыл бұрын
Enlightening episode guys. Speaking of Mitch Steele, he is right here in Atlanta where he co-founded New Realm Brewing Co. where they are pumping out some outstanding IPAs. When you guys start traveling again, come check out the craft beer scene in Atlanta and visit New Realm!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Damn we would love to come to Atlanta! I (Jonny) spoke to Mitch for an article about Black IPA and will definitely be visiting one day, sounds like he's built a great brewery there.
@ATL-xi7lo
@ATL-xi7lo 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel And we'd love to have you! I'll be happy to give you some ideas of breweries to visit. We have a nice mix of older breweries and new.
@martingenerous1678
@martingenerous1678 3 жыл бұрын
I love Black IPAs - didn't know they were out. I do a five gallon, extract recipe, black IPA that turns out great.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
We say they are back.... really we mean brewers are trying to bring it back. Whether they succeed is another matter!
@tanyatranter5578
@tanyatranter5578 3 жыл бұрын
I find my extract brews have a liquorice note anyway so cold steeping some cara and chocolate malts as an addition helps create a more rounded beer
@martingenerous1678
@martingenerous1678 3 жыл бұрын
@@tanyatranter5578 the last time I did this recipe, I used Cara 40, Cara 60 and midnight wheat as steeping grains.
@martingenerous1678
@martingenerous1678 3 жыл бұрын
with Apollo and Falconer Flight hops
@Rostas29
@Rostas29 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I have never really got black ipa. Have tried a bunch of them and only found one that I liked. For me, it takes 2 styles of beer that I love separately and fails to marry them in a way that I find pleasing. Give me an American stout or cascadian dark ale for hoppy dark, or straight ipa, wcipa or neipa for hoppy.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's kind of where we landed with this video! In my head there were some great examples back in 2012-15 but not had one that's blown me away with the recent glut of them
@SamFromSA1
@SamFromSA1 3 жыл бұрын
Black IPA is my any day go to. Long Live BIPA! Cheers Gents!
@11guitarrock
@11guitarrock 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds tasty, I'll have to try one! Maybe a cool video idea would be to discuss/battle of the Belgian strong ales? Beers like Kwak, Duvel, Delerium etc. It would be interesting to see what the non-trappist belgian beer has to offer.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thought! We'll look into it!
@Chrillofthehill
@Chrillofthehill 3 жыл бұрын
I just cracked open a black IPA and sat down to eat, just to find this video about black IPA.... coincidence? I think not.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like divine intervention to me.
@beaudwayful
@beaudwayful 3 жыл бұрын
I've rarely had a black IPA that I've liked though I still like trying them.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I love this statement of intent.
@jonparry6462
@jonparry6462 3 жыл бұрын
Really surprised about the mention of the "sorachi coconut" thing. I've always thought of it as being all lemon-citrus. Haven't used it much, but if it also gives coconut, then perhaps I should give it another go!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
TBH Sorachi is a weird-ass hop and I've got lemon, coconut, dill, strawberry and all manner of other things from it. To me Talus is similarly weird and wild. If you're after coconut, best go for Sabro.
@mickayres8786
@mickayres8786 3 жыл бұрын
Don't really care what it's called but The Kernel Export India Porter really nailed it for me recently, The Siren/Elusive Zombies was pretty neat as well.
@cudden22
@cudden22 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was Sabro that was the new "coconutty" hop. I think Talus is more grapefruit/citrusy? I may be wrong. Anyway, great video as always fellas.
@richnewnham601
@richnewnham601 3 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with that. The Siren and Deya single hopped Talus IPAs were really heavy tangerine and grapefruit. I didn't get any coconut in those (yep, Sabro is the big coconut thing for me).
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Sabro is indeed THE coconut hop but we get it off Talus and Sorachi too. Talus is a really unusual hop, bred from a wild Mexican variety. Seems to present differently in every beer (again like Sorachi!)
@richnewnham601
@richnewnham601 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel how many have you had yet? I've only had those two from the first wave so far but I really enjoyed the flavour profile and I'm keen to try more.
@danbruniges3782
@danbruniges3782 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel that's probably because Talus is the sister of Sabro. I personally didn't get much coconut from Talus but that's why hops are amazing. The recent Cloudwater Black TIPA with Sabro was an immense brew!
@mpthorvonericksen
@mpthorvonericksen 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact. Greg Noonan, from Burlington, Vermont was the creator of this style of beer. I've been to his brewpub "The Vermont Pub & Brew" on College St. and had the original black IPA. Skal!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
We say that in the video?! But hey! Cool you tried the original Blackwatch!
@marionasuncion3428
@marionasuncion3428 3 жыл бұрын
Just brewed with talus hops, i did not get any coconut aroma as more of pink grapefruit and the pith of grapefruit. Will have to revisit my beer again. Cheers!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Well the same hops can present it lots of different ways depending on their age, use, dosage etc as well as the yeast, water and malt recipes so if you got grapefruit out of it that's awesome!
@marionasuncion3428
@marionasuncion3428 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel i used the talus for dry hopping about 4 ounces worth made an American IPA. Next time ill try a different approach. Thanks.
@EricMcLuen
@EricMcLuen 3 жыл бұрын
Friends of mine own a micro brew here in Iowa do one and I really like. But one friend who loves stouts says it isn't black enough and another who likes IPAs says it isn't hoppy enough. I love stouts and don't care for IPAs that seem to be a contest of how much hops can you put in a glass at the sacrifice of flavor. Oh look what I just found in my fridge..🍺 (need dark beer emoji)
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the issue! Who is it appealing to?!
@EricMcLuen
@EricMcLuen 3 жыл бұрын
Well it is a lot better than the label I misread stating coco stout and it was actually coconut. Second worst beer I have ever had. No idea who drinking alcoholic sun tan lotion appeals to. But losing taste and smell from covid did have one bright side.
@marconbeer
@marconbeer 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta try the @trinitybrewco hazy Black IPA. It's outstanding!! They were on the BeerFridgePodcast this week!!
@erehwon80
@erehwon80 3 жыл бұрын
Think Eclipse (one of the newer hops from down under) would go really well in a BIPA - mandarin, citrus peel, and pine. I have now tried it in a few styles, and it definitely seemed to suit darker styles well.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Never had a beer with it in - will hunt one down!
@erehwon80
@erehwon80 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Hopefully it has made it out of Oz already.
@KCJbomberFTW
@KCJbomberFTW 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of beers out there now combining the dark toasty stoutsy creaminess and a bitter floral floral crisp finish
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
There sure is - seems the hang up people had about it back when BIPA was big has died away
@KCJbomberFTW
@KCJbomberFTW 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel having said that I think the IPL might be a bigger up and comer than BIPA
@darrenpackman6154
@darrenpackman6154 3 жыл бұрын
Winter Faith by Northern Monk is a brilliant take on a black IPA
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've had it but will track some down...I assume in winter!
@petergaboury9300
@petergaboury9300 3 жыл бұрын
For me, being old school and after falling in love with El Jefe ( Alchemist ) and Shaun Hill's Darkside Black, I think any black IPA needs, absolutely must, be loaded with Simcoe ... piney, resine, and a good underlying bitterness. It should not be astringent ( Carafa III ), and definitely not juicy.
@RoranRock
@RoranRock 3 жыл бұрын
I like the name "cascadian dark ale" because it doesn't give expectation of IPA hops character, and it's less nonsense than BLACK India PALE ale lol. Talus, Sabro and other coconut aroma hops are great in this style if you don't have IPA aroma expectations :)
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
In our minds Cascadian Dark Ale is a different style - it originated in Oregon a few years after the BIPA and is generally lower ABV and much less hoppy.
@RoranRock
@RoranRock 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel now we need a video about cascadian dark ales !
@kyostihonkola7085
@kyostihonkola7085 3 жыл бұрын
Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous Black IPA should be included. IT was THE black IPA for me.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I'd argue it still is! And it's BACK in the States, not in the UK yet.
@kyostihonkola7085
@kyostihonkola7085 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel That is mostly a problem for our friends at the Stone Brewing Company. Maybe they will start shipping more variety of their beer in cans around the world. In Finland right now and I see only Stone IPA here.
@jonnyheath6363
@jonnyheath6363 3 жыл бұрын
What do you change to make dark lagers vs regular ones? I feel like applying that to an IPA is the most natural fit as to what a black ipa should be... Or just take a dark lager recipe, swap to an ale yeast, throw in a few more hops. Boom! Black IPA Can you tell I'm not a brewer?!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Erm... Jonny you COULD be a brewer because this is EXACTLY what the original BIPA brewers did. They used carafa Special 3 - a german roasted malt with the husk removed to reduce the roasted astringency. That malt is used in schwarzbier.
@SoundzCool
@SoundzCool 2 жыл бұрын
Question, I want to make a Black IPA but I've heard some don't add the dark malt the same time as the rest of the grain bill, I was going to add it all in at the same time, what's better?
@JakeOBeer
@JakeOBeer 3 жыл бұрын
11:00 for all the bottle opener fans out there
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Need to make an instagram account for it.
@danglanville5324
@danglanville5324 2 жыл бұрын
Guinness extra stout.
@adamskitheangler3631
@adamskitheangler3631 3 жыл бұрын
You gents can have a like just for the AC/DC and Soundgarden references!
@CampbellDitty1
@CampbellDitty1 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite Cascadian Dark Ale (I'll never call it a Black IPA due to being a stupid name) is Great Heck - Black Jesus
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Real sad that the brewery went under, they made great beer. But Cascadian Dark Ale is a different style to Black IPA - it's lower ABV, drier and less hoppy too. It comes from Oregon, while the BIPA is from New England.
@martingenerous1678
@martingenerous1678 3 жыл бұрын
Correct on the name. Beer&Wine Hobby in Danver MA make a kit they call Dirty Water Cascadian Dark. I've made it a couple of times. Has always come our well.
@stevieu83
@stevieu83 3 жыл бұрын
I damn well love a decent Black IPA 🤤
@benwithers1909
@benwithers1909 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious now. Is "Dark Sister" by the BBP a proper example of a BIPA? have not had it in years, but I remember it being fantastic.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Afraid I've never had it!
@christiangnosis4019
@christiangnosis4019 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, been watching a lot of your videos, and I´m wishing to ask an odd question. Would it be possible to brew a sort of dark malt liquor that can not be classified as a form of imperial stout or extra stout?
@christiangnosis4019
@christiangnosis4019 3 жыл бұрын
any recipe I throw together just ends up looking like a really good stout lol
@BenPaganelli
@BenPaganelli 3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you never addressed the most obvious question of how can a thing be black and pale at the same time? Haha. Anyway, I’m loving the expert tasting, as usual, and the wonderful flavor descriptors Brad comes up with. “Forest fire” and “The shade of a mango tree.” The latter was a collabo, I guess, and Jonny tweaked the former into “burnt forest.” What a treat to watch. Btw, I’m inspired by Brad’s shirt to share a short obit from last summer I’m sure you haven’t seen. It’s from a local Hudson Valley magazine that had the photo as the cover last August. www.chronogram.com/hudsonvalley/on-the-cover-portrait-of-milton-glaser-by-franco-vogt-august-2020/Content?oid=11026008 Enjoy!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link! And for the kind words. We didn't worry too much about the Black and Pale thing - beer names are littered with contradictions and always have been. Barley Wine isn't a wine etc!
@ShortToothChannel
@ShortToothChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's that whole thing of tasting with your eyes but I can't get on board with it. When I chuck down a pint of the black I want porter or stout anything slightly hoppy in there is gonna throw me off kilter. That said have never had a truly hoppy BIPA. Only sudsy, toasty ones.
@jasonsteel4882
@jasonsteel4882 3 жыл бұрын
They really should be called an IBA (India Black Ale).
@shaggaroo
@shaggaroo 3 жыл бұрын
So did the Citra work in The Kernel? I couldn’t tell from your commentary...
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
It did! I think it wasn't heavily dry hopped so added more grapefruit pith than the juicier quality it has as a dry hop, which complemented the beer perfectly.
@otterconnor942
@otterconnor942 Жыл бұрын
So a IBA or a IDA? It's kinda hard to have a pale ale and a black ale at the same time
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel Жыл бұрын
Haha IPA is too powerful a marketing term to be left out if you can get away with it!
@DavesVids7
@DavesVids7 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to learn more about neomexicanus!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Haha god me too! I need to get reading.
@brianrossiter2547
@brianrossiter2547 3 жыл бұрын
Have never particularly been a fan of the "chocolate orange" effect of a black IPA. Red IPA has more going for it but doesn't get an ounce of hype.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Except on this channel! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nsWEgqp-ybW2fYk.html
@Dcalzaretta
@Dcalzaretta 3 жыл бұрын
I think Roasty Toasty was an AC/DC song only available on bootleg tapes...
@andyhiggy
@andyhiggy 3 жыл бұрын
🎵Whole lotta Roastie🎵
@jonathang.5092
@jonathang.5092 3 жыл бұрын
I've often looked at black IPA in the shops and just gone, "but why?" and walked on by. Never felt moved to try one.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I'm assuming this video didn't help?
@jonathang.5092
@jonathang.5092 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel Too many other things to try!!
@TimBrownbread
@TimBrownbread 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of those beer styles I'm just indifferent to, I find them pretty inoffensive and will happily drink them if they come in a beer subscription package or something but won't go out of my way to buy them nor do they exactly blow my hair back!
@kevinpayne3482
@kevinpayne3482 3 жыл бұрын
What abv are we talking about for these black ipa’s
@carlnewton7591
@carlnewton7591 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever allow the camera crew to finish off your half opened cans?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Camera crew?! It's just me and Brad on all our shoots. Which means the answer is yes, we finish them ALL!
@mileswilliams1585
@mileswilliams1585 3 жыл бұрын
How can you not mention Saltaire?
@TheJocker113
@TheJocker113 3 жыл бұрын
It should be called India Black Ale
@mickporter84
@mickporter84 3 жыл бұрын
Best two I've had (and by some distance) are: Tool - Black Malts and Body Salts Weird Beard x Time & Tide - Call Your Friends That collab was out of this world good. Wish it wasn't a one off. 😪 Not counting export India porters though as if I was then Kernel would be top of that list. The double is maybe my favourite beer of all time.
@gomezfriesen
@gomezfriesen 3 жыл бұрын
I have always refused to make them, because everyone I've ever had has been a glass full of butting, incongruent, harsh flavours.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I mean we have had some wonderful hoppy dark beers but it's a really tough line to tread
@Hairycheese1
@Hairycheese1 3 жыл бұрын
I had a black ipa the other day and actually really didn’t like it, to be honest it was like a watery guiness.... maybe my palate is immature!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the beer's fault, not yours! There should have been bags of hop aroma and decent of malt depth too - beyond the roast there needs to be some cara-like character.
@CarlosPena-pf5zi
@CarlosPena-pf5zi 3 жыл бұрын
But I am a fan of Black IPA'S and red as well.
@Hairycheese1
@Hairycheese1 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel thanks for the reply, love your channel, keep it up!
@HughJonesYate
@HughJonesYate 3 жыл бұрын
What even is that tapping you do on the cans?!
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
As kids we were told doing so stopped it foaming over. Studies show this is nonsense, but we still do it out of habit.
@mattichu
@mattichu 3 жыл бұрын
Black IPA vs Tropical Stout? Hmmmmm
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Yeah... so I guess that's basically a dry hopped stout - so loads of roast. Not had one I've really enjoyed yet.
@mattichu
@mattichu 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel yeh so many competing flavours. Have you ever had a beer that is pretty much 100% on all flavour fronts? (Triple dry hopped Sour pastry imperial stout with a bourbon vanilla saison chaser?!)
@cratecruncher6687
@cratecruncher6687 2 жыл бұрын
"burn't forest"...lol. I fell hard for Sierra Nevada Stout decades ago for it's evergreen spin on what a spicy stout should be. But it is definitely a stout. Now I'm more confused than ever after watching this as to what a black IPA actually is. But that's ok. Emphasizing any creation that isn't loaded down with Citra and juicy juice hops is refreshing in itself! I still can't understand our current world in which beer drinkers are so fixated on their favorite imbibement tasting like a morning glass of grapefruit juice. Gwyuck!🤮
@barrywalsh6342
@barrywalsh6342 3 жыл бұрын
What is that SMEG thing? A fridge?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Haha the opposite! A heater!
@verykeen2please
@verykeen2please 3 жыл бұрын
so, the best Black IPA is a Porter haha
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Haha - the best beer certainly! But too roasty for a BIPA
@vaughnsigal4560
@vaughnsigal4560 3 жыл бұрын
Why not call it an India Black Ale?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Great point, probably because IPA is basically a brand at this point.
@barrywalsh6342
@barrywalsh6342 3 жыл бұрын
Why is is called a black IPA and not an IBA?
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but it should be
@magnus.nasmark
@magnus.nasmark 3 жыл бұрын
Back when we were… bastards. :D
@f00dify
@f00dify 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest. I didn't even know black IPA existed until i watched this video just now.
@oneminutebeerreviews6628
@oneminutebeerreviews6628 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's never coming back.
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
JUST YOU WATCH.....yeah you are probs right.
@oneminutebeerreviews6628
@oneminutebeerreviews6628 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel lol's, I just don't get them, i've had 3 that i've really liked
@MerseyBeers
@MerseyBeers 3 жыл бұрын
All answers given are all wrong but also are all right.....black IPA is a oxymoron and should be brewed as such....I think the aroma should be all IPA with no dark elements but the taste should have the hint of coffee and dark caramel. I can say categorically that the cloudwater 6th birthday "black imperial ipas" were definitely not black IPAs in anyway shape or form...
@TheCraftBeerChannel
@TheCraftBeerChannel 3 жыл бұрын
We didn't have the Cloudwater ones (a triple Black IPA is a terrifying thought) but I agree on your definition and the Siren came closest. Just needed for hoppy character.
@MerseyBeers
@MerseyBeers 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCraftBeerChannel had all three, Mr. Derbyshire informed me that he heard the base was the same base as persistence is Utile....which is a impy stout....so were really hoppy impy stouts, the Sabro one was nice though....but not a triple black IPA...
@account2292
@account2292 3 жыл бұрын
Nasty.... That's what black IPA is.
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