What Everyone Got WRONG About Imu! (1086+)

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@Junosensei
@Junosensei Жыл бұрын
So, about Garling. I am a professional translator who is fluent in Japanese. I don't watch Ohara, so I don't have notes to compare, but here's the Japanese surrounding Garling's introduction: 裁いたのはかつてゴッド・バレーという土地で活躍した"王者"!! (At the pinnacle [sits] the former victorious "ruler" of the land known as God Valley!!) The word 王者 _very much_ implicates he was (past tense) the "ruler" of God Valley, while the かつて活躍した description _very much_ implicates he once was victorious _in some vague sense._ While there is room to breathe on what this could mean in the context of a fantasy world, the general assumption I'd make is that he _earned_ his place as "ruler" of God Valley and, at some point, lost that place to someone else in a duel or challenge of sorts, now residing as a powerful judicial figure instead. The use of " " quotation marks suggests the title of "ruler" is not necessarily a royal title, but one given to whomever earns it. Again, this is a fantasy world. Oda-sensei could have something up his sleeve beyond my scope of foresight. Translation always comes with the risk of getting lost in hindsight. However, I think this is the safe assumption to land on, and from a quick search, it seems to be the common assumption among the few Japanese fans I see discussing it.
@Junosensei
@Junosensei Жыл бұрын
And let me add in regards to "Mother Flame/Frame" that, indeed, either translation works if all we have to go off of is transliteration. Katakana used to spell foreign words is often an approximation and rarely ever standardized. The elongated "レー" and the more precise "レイ" sounds, in this case, are nearly indistinguishable. I would have personally used "flame", but it's always good to keep an open mind.
@Junosensei
@Junosensei Жыл бұрын
Let's keep going. Imu says ヴィヴィが欲しい...... ("I want Vivi......") in Japanese. Regarding Imu's speech, they actually _don't_ speak in an archaic sense (like is common in anime/manga for ancient figures to speak), and while they sometimes talk about complicated topics in a way a child would not, they have moments in their dialogue that come off as childish. This is potentially one of those moments, as it sounds like a child begging for a toy or candy, like "I want that!". This doesn't mean Imu _is_ a child or childish persay, but they sound desperate and it comes off as strangely intimidating.
@Junosensei
@Junosensei Жыл бұрын
Finally, regarding the "star/planet" distinction, I should clear up some confusion. 星 usually just refers to any celestial object beside the sun and moon. Planets, stars, other planets' moons, asteroids and comets, etc. all have their own words, but are collectively referred to as 星. However, it is often commonplace that 星 used as a title refers to the horoscopic planets in our solar system (think Sailor Moon). This isn't necessarily strict, but it's common enough that no Japanese person is going to be shocked by the elders' names, or their association to the planets.
@GrandLineReview
@GrandLineReview Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the in depth explanations! Really appreciate the input! :D
@premiumheadpats4150
@premiumheadpats4150 Жыл бұрын
Very educational.
@Naija_Ninja
@Naija_Ninja Жыл бұрын
Rip Mosgard. Anyone that smacks Charlos has my eternal undying respect. You were a real one 🙏🏾
@maxmoon4138
@maxmoon4138 Жыл бұрын
Anyone that even smaks talk him is a real one
@wilhammartins9898
@wilhammartins9898 Жыл бұрын
Be careful, Oda is teaching us to not judge ANY book by It's cover ONLY.
@magnus5747
@magnus5747 Жыл бұрын
​@@wilhammartins9898 Well I mean he was a dirtbag in the beginning
@sakibmahmud3621
@sakibmahmud3621 Жыл бұрын
@@magnus5747 so what? He sacrificed his life for other's sake. As a world noble, he did not have to go such extent, even saving the pirates who saved Shirahoshi. He deserves massive respect. The ending of someone matters much more than the beginning.
@lazylonewolf
@lazylonewolf Жыл бұрын
Born a spoiled manchild, died a chad. 🙏
@KingZippy
@KingZippy Жыл бұрын
Doflomingo knew about Imu and said if he had the OP-OP fruit he would of been able to seize the world.. maybe it can reverse the effects of immortality also but LAW is the most important character right now 100%
@Cipher_Paul
@Cipher_Paul Жыл бұрын
Nah, Doflamingo was talking about the personality transplant as explained by Artur from the Library of Ohara. That's how Doflamingo planned to take Imu's place.
@crmarcus63017
@crmarcus63017 Жыл бұрын
Immortality in this world could very well be endless personality transplantations.
@yanaskhoir3657
@yanaskhoir3657 Жыл бұрын
Doffy meet this person before he ordererd by higher being for assasinate moriah and obsesed with op op immortality
@BloodmoonRises
@BloodmoonRises Жыл бұрын
There seems to be the potential for parallels between Franky and Vegapunk. Franky's backstory focuses on taking responsibility for the things you build. There may be a rekoning for Vegapunk soon.
@patricknez7258
@patricknez7258 Жыл бұрын
I like this, feels spot on to me
@deadbear95
@deadbear95 Жыл бұрын
I had Vander decken flash in my head when imu said they "desire vivi" . Made me think of him and Shirahoshi. An obsession spanning centuries
@patricknez7258
@patricknez7258 Жыл бұрын
I forgot Vander decker 😅 Ty for reminding me he existed
@cjamesfort
@cjamesfort Жыл бұрын
Very interesting given Vander Decken was particularly interested in her abilities as Poseidon. With Poseidon and Pluton both tied to royal families it suggests a possible connection between the Nefertaris and Uranus. Ivankov noted that there may be an ancient weapon involved with Lulusia and fans speculate that Vegapunk's invention was an alternative power source, rather than a replica of the weapon itself. Could Vivi be like Shirahoshi and Momonoske?
@Koonski
@Koonski Жыл бұрын
The way Dragon reacted still makes me believe that he knows more (or at least has a vague idea) about the giant shadow above Lulusia.
@oxcare5
@oxcare5 Жыл бұрын
In Finnish, the Five Elders are titled "Viisi Johtotähteä" which roughly translates to "The Five Leading Stars" so that's interesting
@K4inan
@K4inan Жыл бұрын
In Swedish, Old Stars Five
@BeyondBathuu
@BeyondBathuu Жыл бұрын
​@@K4inanbruh
@Dorodere89
@Dorodere89 Жыл бұрын
in german it's "Fünf Weisen", "five wise", no old or star..
@Irrevenant_
@Irrevenant_ Жыл бұрын
I like the German, "The Wise Five" translation a lot but I find it so fascinating how many different ways it's translated and I'm always excited to see how many of the official translator got it right or mostly right.
@thedude-nf1uf
@thedude-nf1uf Жыл бұрын
​@Doreen the five wise has a really nice ring to it
@AshSux
@AshSux Жыл бұрын
I feel like we should just have translated the elders as The Five Elder Celestials as they are at the top of the Celestial Dragons, and Celestial Bodys are something that describes both planets and stars much like the word used in japanese can describe both. Would probably be the least confusing name they could have.
@KainaX122
@KainaX122 Жыл бұрын
Someone else in the comments suggested it, but I think calling them “stars” is a reference to how we used to refer to the planets as stars
@Vendavalez
@Vendavalez Жыл бұрын
I keep saying this. I keep seeing people say that the Japanese use a word that can mean both planet and star as if there wasn't a word in English with the same meaning. The same word that is used to describe the group that they are the elders of as well!
@JamesDavy2009
@JamesDavy2009 Жыл бұрын
@@KainaX122 The word "planet" came from Greek meaning "wandering star".
@eliaspanayi3465
@eliaspanayi3465 Жыл бұрын
Its quite symbolic, the celestial dragons killed the only one of them with a shred of humanity.
@rohankishibe8259
@rohankishibe8259 Жыл бұрын
The only one we know of so far, I believe there are some redeemable ones like doffys father and mosgard, but the plot didn't allow to fledge them yet, maybe there will be an arc where the good ones of them help in some way shape or form, after all, it's not a very good idea to destroy a government and leave the whole world ungoverned, "a year with a bad governor is better than a day without a government"
@davidowusu1184
@davidowusu1184 Жыл бұрын
I love how it's Saturn who is in a hurry to deal with the egghead incident since that's his jurisdiction
@Killerbee_McTitties
@Killerbee_McTitties Жыл бұрын
9:40 Imu didn't answer the question about Lily at all. He told us some Trivia about her, but Cobra asked what happened to her and Imu didn't answer that. Imu also didn't answer the other question about the will of D, he just told us about its origin (which we already knew). Why does nobody seem to notice this?
@dariuslegacy3406
@dariuslegacy3406 Жыл бұрын
Imu spoke to Cobra to confirm their own suspicions, they did not care to actually explain anything lol..
@premiumheadpats4150
@premiumheadpats4150 Жыл бұрын
I very much noticed that. I was actually telling a friend about what has happened recently and mentioned that Imu gave us very little information we didn't already know. Pretty much just that Lili released the poneglyphs and then disappeared completely.
@YoukaiFofo
@YoukaiFofo Жыл бұрын
Same thing with our own governments Never to serve, only to stroke their own egos 😂😂
@Sunvy101
@Sunvy101 Жыл бұрын
Imu & Lili's dynamic might be the same as Orochi & Hiyori. Orochi thought Komurasaki was on his side but in reality she was a Kozuki. Imu thought Lili was on his side but in reality she was a D.
@ladonmccabe
@ladonmccabe Жыл бұрын
Oh, she got that D, alright...
@matthewlorentz9604
@matthewlorentz9604 Жыл бұрын
probably
@acshepard6779
@acshepard6779 Жыл бұрын
Not everything has to be a parallel
@Sunvy101
@Sunvy101 Жыл бұрын
​@@acshepard6779 It's Oda we're talking about. I've watched the anime twice. Also read the manga about 3 times. The amount of parallels I see in each arc that inevitably hints at the ending of the series are insane.
@Sunvy101
@Sunvy101 Жыл бұрын
@@acshepard6779 Another obvious parallel is Oden's retainers portrayed as ghosts that haunts Orochi every night. The same way the "D" who inherited Joy Boy's will have been haunting Imu & the World Government for centuries. Joy Boy died with regret and that regret turned into a ghost that haunts those who did him dirty for centuries. Until he fulfills his purpose his spirit can never rest. (Metaphorically)
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 Жыл бұрын
Knowing Oda, he will probably surprise us of Imu's appearance to be different than we expected.
@overlookers
@overlookers Жыл бұрын
incoming evil twin tropes
@nicklur5686
@nicklur5686 Жыл бұрын
I think imu will be revealed as a child. He looks really small and it would also refer to "where the wild things are" and imo it would be really great because this would actually make sense
@spazzmaticus9086
@spazzmaticus9086 Жыл бұрын
@@nicklur5686 damn, most sane one piece theorist?
@mrstrangeworld5977
@mrstrangeworld5977 Жыл бұрын
​@@nicklur5686why do you say that
@acshepard6779
@acshepard6779 Жыл бұрын
People get surprised because they cling to their and theorists' headcanons and expectations
@patordeus
@patordeus Жыл бұрын
5 elder stars actually works really well as the planets used to be referred to as stars in our own world
@octobsession3061
@octobsession3061 Жыл бұрын
the non-blinky stars
@joelchalk597
@joelchalk597 Жыл бұрын
@@octobsession3061 almost, we look at Venus all the time and it’s technically one of the brightest “stars” we can see without a telescope. Might mean that he’ll at least go stupid when we see him fight
@zagreus5773
@zagreus5773 Жыл бұрын
True. Planets were just seen as wandering stars.
@starpetalarts6668
@starpetalarts6668 Жыл бұрын
In the meeting room they are always hovering in their proper orbits around the table. Luffy's wanted poster being on the table where the sun would be is interesting considering Gear 5. Also it's interesting to me that the eight planets aren't all there... the ones that are missing are: Uranus, Neptune and Earth. We know that former planet Pluto(n), Uranus, and Poseidon are all named as ancient weapons. We learned that Shirahoshi is an ancient weapon... what if the Elder's are also ancient weapons (that it's their abilities)? That perhaps Nika is also another ancient weapon located in the Devil Fruits... and if that is the case what if Pluto(n) is a black-hole devil fruit that eats up suns? What if Blackbeard already has the Pluto(n) and Dragon already has Uranus which are Devil Fruit abilities akin to Luffy's? Along a tangent: Mother Frame is said to be like an ancient weapon by Ivankov; "Mother" Frame... "Mother" Earth... the final planet. So perhaps Mother Frame is also another God-Level Devil Fruit user? It'd then make sense that when studying ancient weapons and building his own... that the pacifistas were created by Vegapunk; the modern versions of the ancient weapons.
@rachel_v_k
@rachel_v_k Жыл бұрын
The word "desire" doesn't necessarily have to imply something romantic or sexual. It could, however, indicate strong emotion, such as rage, obsession and the desire to take revenge. Imu blamed Lili for scattering the poneglyphs and all that had resulted from the that. Throughout the centuries, he had nursed this rage. When he saw Vivi's picture, especially if she looked like Lili, followed by everything that happened with Cobra, then Lili escaping, only infuriated Imu more than ever. In fact, Imu was uncharacteristically emotional when he revealed himself to Cobra. It was the mention of Lili which drew Imu out into the light. Remember, Vivi had already been captured by CP-0. So Imu already planned on doing something to her, perhaps torturing and killing her in Lili's place. When Vivi fled, Imu became unhinged with rage. Perhaps, to take it further, this is why Imu wanted to test the wepon at that time. He had to kill someone, especially an entire island of someones. If read as "Mother Flame," there is a connection between Imu's anger at Lili, and the burning desire to kill and destroy. This fits with Imu's character. He is cold, calculating, aloof from the people of the world. But, his fatal flaw, this vengeful rage, is his only human emotion that remains.
@premiumheadpats4150
@premiumheadpats4150 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about all that, but I also got a feeling that it was less sexual and more obsessive in a different way. It just less gave me the impression that he wants to take violent revenge on her and more gave me the impression that he wants to use her for something.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
Possessive. I think that's the best word to describe the implication of this "desire".
@AnonymousEnigma19
@AnonymousEnigma19 Жыл бұрын
I think the eternal youth surgery that the op Op fruit gives me make you immortal but I think it doesn't make your body immortal, it's why I still stick to the theory of vessels, and it makes me think that Imu is female, because why I think that now is because not my theory that she may be Luffy's mother but the lack of female Celestial Dragons, because where was Shalria in all this? And tell me if you did spot any female Celestial dragons during the raid, I'm not hundred percent certain, but I feel like it's a possibility.
@demonslayereren3970
@demonslayereren3970 Жыл бұрын
​@@AnonymousEnigma19Imu is a body snatcher (from a movie)
@AnonymousEnigma19
@AnonymousEnigma19 Жыл бұрын
@@demonslayereren3970 wait what movie?
@GoatAmv
@GoatAmv Жыл бұрын
Oda never misses with his character Designs. Garling’s moon head design is both Cool and Goofy at the same time lol Classic Oda
@darrenheideman2546
@darrenheideman2546 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the old McDonald's character Mac the Night.
@kaleomungin
@kaleomungin Жыл бұрын
Never misses is a gomu gomu no stretch
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
My immediate thought when I saw him was "Is he supposed to be a lunarian?", specifically because of the hair.
@Rubberman202
@Rubberman202 Жыл бұрын
You basically hit the nail on the head when it comes to Oda refusing the kill off characters. I'm guessing that since One Piece is in its final stages, he feels more comfortable killing off characters. I do recall him saying he found it frustrating that writers kill off characters only to bring them back later, noting that if they wanted to use those characters they shouldn't have killed them off in the first place. I think might explain the logic behind refusing to kill characters off, like he's playing an RPG and has this really valuable item that he should really use right now but doesn't because "what if I might need it later?" When it comes to Mjosgard, I suppose Oda did what he wanted to with him, and like Liam said, Mjosgard's actions had consequences among his fellow World Nobles. It also ends up proving his point to Fukaboshi, that just because Fukaboshi is royalty that's not going to be enough to protect him, his family, or the rest of Fishman Island from the World Nobles. As sad as Mjosgard's death is, this is realistically the only thing that could have happened to him, since he's one good World Noble against the rest of the evil ones. Like Liam said, actions have consequences, and honestly, it's kind of a relief for Oda to finally go there after showing a LOT of restraint when it came to killing characters off (which is a bit odd when I say it like that, actually). On the subject of Film Red, it's weird for Oda to throw in some canon information in that movie, considering the movie, as a whole, is non-canon just like Strong World. Because of that, it's no surprised that the whole "Figarland" thing caught people off-guard. Viz going back and changing what they said about Garling is kind of buckwild, but it still begs the question... Just who or what is he? I'm with Liam in that I don't envy the translators at all, because Oda writes One Piece in such a way that even minor, trivial details and what way certain characters say things end up becoming REALLY important down the line, and some of the nuances that come with what's said in Japanese can be difficult to replicate or translate in English, especially when the translator doesn't fully know where Oda is going with something. Having said that, I does make me look back at, say, the 4Kids dub for One Piece and just how many things they'd have to account for when it came to all the changes they made. "Mother Flame" sounds much better than "Mother Frame", to me at least. It's going to be awkward when we actually see this device and it's clearly fire-themed and nothing to suggest that it's a "Frame" or some kind, in which case Viz and the translators are going to eat it when they made the wrong call with this. But who knows, maybe they ARE right about this, or have more insight on what this thing actually is than we know? The fact that they changed Garling's thing but not the "Mother Frame" thing makes it seem that they're confident that's the way it's supposed to be. I honestly always used "Five Elders" and not the "Five Elder Stars", I always thought the latter felt clunky to say, plus they were (seemingly) just five old men, so yeah, "Five Elders" it is then.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
Mother Flame sounds too natural, Mother Frame is almost explicitly man-made. We are also directly told it's a weapon created by Vegapunk. Considering Vegapunk's current position in the story and the world, I think making it clear that this is his mistake, his sin to bear... that's probably more important than simply sounding good.
@rohankishibe8259
@rohankishibe8259 Жыл бұрын
I myself didn't watch the red movie, I didn't like the idea behind it and it's the 2nd movie of one piece I deliberately didn't watch, the other one was the chopper movie, yeah, that's how dumb the plot of red sounded to me, just like super broly movie, "let's bring a fan favourite character and make a lackluster movie about it" totally lazy, and it's unforgivable to ruin a plot point for a character like shanks in a lazy movie idea like red.
@strangepigeon1711
@strangepigeon1711 Жыл бұрын
I have a question for you Liam As an Australian, how does it feel to pronounce Imu's name?
@MorglortheMangler
@MorglortheMangler Жыл бұрын
I honestly was hoping for Mjosgard to survive and escape but I guess that’s not happening. It would have been cool to have him be the next head of the world government and help bring peace along with Luffy. R.I.P. Mjosgard, may Charlos get what’s coming to him.
@darrenheideman2546
@darrenheideman2546 Жыл бұрын
I imagine by the end, there might be a monument placed in honor of both Otohime and him.
@j0k3r84
@j0k3r84 Жыл бұрын
if Charlos didn't Die from two Named attacks it means he has the highest Durability in one piece world XD
@darrenheideman2546
@darrenheideman2546 Жыл бұрын
@@j0k3r84 The three strikes rule, it'd seem.
@PanWhitee
@PanWhitee Жыл бұрын
Kuma probably saves him.
@meridithg.42
@meridithg.42 Жыл бұрын
​@@PanWhitee Can't save someone who is already dead. The official made it clear his execution had already taken place.
@yujilee112
@yujilee112 Жыл бұрын
I'm crying when i saw the panel that saint mjosgard got executed , man redeem himself and saving childs of his benefactor multiple times , rest in peace saint mjosgard another kind heart of donquixote.
@AhmadLad
@AhmadLad Жыл бұрын
The five elder stars vs planets is a minor thing compared to Berserk, where "The band of the Hawk" title was established for more than 20 years before Miura corrected it to "The band of the Falcon", which was a hard pill to swallow at the time.
@KainaX122
@KainaX122 Жыл бұрын
“Band of the Hawk” sounds cooler
@aneonfoxtribute
@aneonfoxtribute Жыл бұрын
I think Warcury is a good translation because it's also very similar to "War Cry", and with him as the Justice person, that can fit especially since it's the closest to war of the lot
@Doctor_Kenet
@Doctor_Kenet Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there will be any connection between Toki and Lily… we know the poneglyphs are associated with wano and Toki’s DF has directly helped turn the yonko tides over and essentially awaken the sun god. On top of that, it would explain why she never returned to Arabasta, and we know that Lily is also blamed for the poneglyphs spreading..
@Dorodere89
@Dorodere89 Жыл бұрын
hm, I often think people forget how acient weapons seems to have a connection by blood; Shirahoshi, Seekings Poseidon, Momo, Zou and Pluton. So there is often this theory that Vivi might be the third ancient weapon or the one possible to control it. so, I instantly thought Imu wants to get Vivi because of her "blood powers". maybe her presence "recharges" this mother flame/frame faster, because it's vegapunks best try to recreate that ancient weapon belonging to Vivis blood? dunno, maybe I'm way to far off
@nobede7324
@nobede7324 Жыл бұрын
Liam, here's one for you. What if Lily is Toki? She dissapeared 800years ago and we know Toki appeared out of nowhere. Top of that Lily is a D which would make Momonosuke and Hiyori a D. as well, that could explain why Momo heard Zunesha. Toki was trying to go back to Wano because 800years ago Wano was part of the Ancient Kingdom, so she as Queen of Alabasta knew about this. I think this would make sense. Also great channel, keep it up my man !!
@Azarych
@Azarych Жыл бұрын
Genuinely one of the better one piece theories. A bit farfetched, but I could see oda pulling something like that
@Biggyjay_7
@Biggyjay_7 Жыл бұрын
No , have you forgotten oden could also hear zunesha when he and Roger went to the mink tribe for the road poneglyphs in the wano flashback
@BusayomiOla
@BusayomiOla Жыл бұрын
Toki is from a wano family that lived outside of wano. Can’t remember the family name again. Lili and Toki are different
@ryanpiotr1929
@ryanpiotr1929 Жыл бұрын
​@@BusayomiOla Amatsuki
@tavidx
@tavidx Жыл бұрын
I think Lily is Zuneesha, it just fits. She possibly betrayed Joyboy? Zuneesha cursed from betraying Joyboy? How convienent.....
@darksonic3005
@darksonic3005 Жыл бұрын
In Italian, the translation titles them as "I cinque astri di saggezza", which corresponds to "The five asters of wisdom". Asters could actually be the word we're looking for here, as it doesn't exactly define that it's a star or planet, but a general wording to reference glowing objects outside of the Earth, and generic celestial objects.
@McBehrer
@McBehrer Жыл бұрын
makes sense... Aster sounds similar to Astral, which is what that means
@levert2457
@levert2457 Жыл бұрын
It kind of sucks that the only ones that get punished with death for being good are only Don Quixote's like why the good ones come from that family tree always end up dying while the one truly rotten apple is chilling not getting assassinated and impaled down and then the other ones that never left are still living it up being a bougie celestial dragon. assassinated and inhale down and then the other ones that never left are still living it up being a bougie celestial dragon. Like we need more good celestial dragons that actually live to make a difference.
@chrisbelos2834
@chrisbelos2834 Жыл бұрын
5 weeks break is gonna be a looong time for content creators. good luck GLR you got this
@brandoncampbell7274
@brandoncampbell7274 Жыл бұрын
Btw, everyone was so focused on the revealed names of the Gorusai that they don't realize at the same time, Oda confirmed that the mother frame can't be used again and again and again. I don't blame any of them though, it's kinda hard to look past something that was far more anticipated than just a mere side confirmation. Anyway V. Nasjuro, and Ju Peter in tandem, both said that "if we could only use that power freely, then we could bring that ancient battle to it's conclusion." This tells me that there's an apparent limit to using the mother frame.
@ChaosChanneler
@ChaosChanneler Жыл бұрын
I want more videos about updated or post thought chapter reviews on the more important chapters like this. Very informative and gives your fans some extra content to discuss and hear your thoughts and perspective on. Especially when we have breaks it would be a great use of scheduled space for some of your videos Liam. Keep up the great work though all the same 😊
@jahirgg
@jahirgg Жыл бұрын
This was a good video. I enjoyed the comparison between transalations. Do more of this if possible.
@jinkun2629
@jinkun2629 Жыл бұрын
I want to correct one thing. Imu has only used "Mu" a single time. It's not really about them using different pronouns. It just speaks to how much japanese can have conversations while rarely using pronouns. But that makes it hard for other languages. Since Imu only used "Mu" a single time in japanese, they still come off as very straightforward and serious. But if you put "Mu" in every dialogue like in the french translation, it feels too childish. So I think Stephen Paul is correct to use "I" whenever Imu is not using Mu in japanese.
@marinlataille1043
@marinlataille1043 Жыл бұрын
I'm french and I doesn't find fact that Imu speaks always of him at the third person childish. Personnaly I feel it gives Imu arrogant, pretentious side and in a sense satirical due to Oda's part. After all in Asterix, "Le Domaine des Dieux", CAesar too speaks of him with third person -even if not all time and it doesn't sound childish.
@TrueStory369
@TrueStory369 Жыл бұрын
I don't see it as childish but it could be, just like Fischl in Genshin Impact... Why are y'all looking at me like that? It's a good game... 🙄
@leobuana7430
@leobuana7430 Жыл бұрын
​@@marinlataille1043so,It kind like how a royal use "We" to refer to oneself ?
@jinkun2629
@jinkun2629 Жыл бұрын
@@marinlataille1043 Fair point. I just wanted to address the fact that Imu only said Mu once in japanese.
@dontmisunderstand6041
@dontmisunderstand6041 Жыл бұрын
By the nature of pronouns, usage can easily be dramatically reduced in any language. All it takes is simply structuring the same idea with words that don't continuously refer back to previous statements. Case in point, I just did that, intentionally. It's a bit strange, to be honest, as I ended up using fewer words than I would have otherwise. It requires a bit more thought, which makes sense when you remember that the only purpose of pronouns is to be a shorthand reference for other already established things. He/she/they without an obvious target to reference is meaningless. You can say what you want to say without constantly reminding people what you're talking about, I don't think it'd be particularly hard for them to naturally intuit your precise meaning while doing so.
@jaroslavmihok740
@jaroslavmihok740 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all info!
@aganaom1712
@aganaom1712 Жыл бұрын
Suggesting that the mother flame is actually the mother frame dragged me all the way back to dragon ball and now i cant stop thinking about imu using kikohou and that amuses me greatly
@leen3097
@leen3097 Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for your vedio man love your chanal your my favorite youtuber ❤
@imre3896
@imre3896 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids
@johnnypollack3243
@johnnypollack3243 Жыл бұрын
Love the video and keep up the great work liam
@KuryouTheRunt
@KuryouTheRunt Жыл бұрын
F for my homie Mjosgard, you were a real one homie.
@lubaaudio
@lubaaudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Liam
@BatmanOfficial.
@BatmanOfficial. Жыл бұрын
Thanks Aniki!
@ThatPhoenix98
@ThatPhoenix98 Жыл бұрын
A sort of fun what if, when I think about the mother flame (frame) I think of the space colony arc from sonic, the satellite thing eggman used to destroy the moon. But in this case, something used to destroy an island til nothing is left. A satellite that Vegapunk made for Imu or the 5 Elders to use would be interesting. But if this does come to be, my question would be, what would Enel have seen? He would of saw whatever technology above the earth start powering up until it released a burst of energy, raining it down from the sky.
@mubarakzahruddin
@mubarakzahruddin Жыл бұрын
What if Garp is a hero narrative is actually a marine cover up? U know like how in Arabasta and almost happened in Dressrosa. Maybe that's the actual reason Garp don't really hold on to those moments.
@jd2k9
@jd2k9 Жыл бұрын
If the weapon will be confirmed in the future, to be created by Vegapunk. I wonder if he'll reveal some sort of failsafe within the weapon on the off chance it was used against him or to conduct actions that he doesn't agree with.
@acshepard6779
@acshepard6779 Жыл бұрын
It should, his original lab on his home island even had a self-destruct button that Franky pressed 😆
@kreehomel
@kreehomel Жыл бұрын
Mjosgard's final words: "It's pronounced MYOS-gard!" Liam and the World Nobles: "Whatevs Mosgard." Hajrudin: "I shall carry on your legacy of the soft 'J,' my brother." Liam: "Whatevs Harudin."
@mathieudebibikoff4369
@mathieudebibikoff4369 Жыл бұрын
for the french translation, you pronounced it right the first time, we say champion, the letters "CH" are pronounced together same as "SH" would be in english. it is true that we don't pronounce the letter H, but only when it's on its own between wowels, H serves as a pause, along with the C, it becomes what I said earlier, so you said champion correctly the first time around.
@brevebe
@brevebe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up. I see a lot of stuff online with the scrutinizing and meticulous breaking down of ever syllable someone might say and the way they said it. But I'll see that on Saturday. lol. So. It's important not to read too much into things. But the way the economy is set up right now. And my bank just charged me an overdraft fee >_> I'll read the official release next Tuesday.
@mihneapop148
@mihneapop148 Жыл бұрын
My theory for Garling is that he is kinda like Gyros in Dressrosa I mean he is a dominating figure from the respective place with some calling him a hero or ruler even if he might not be
@johnlindsay7301
@johnlindsay7301 Жыл бұрын
Wow, your research for this episode is amazing. Well done. But oh so confusing. You’ve done a great job of presenting the info, even if that doesn’t always clear things up. But I do appreciate the efforts.
@handlesmandels1297
@handlesmandels1297 Жыл бұрын
i had a lot of questions in this chapter...thanks for clearing up the translation issues !
@CitroChannel
@CitroChannel Жыл бұрын
I was wondering if it was meant to be "motherframe" instead of "motherflame" since I saw the scans since it seemed like an easy mistake to make and motherframe made me think of something more technology based like the word mainframe. Which would make sense if it's a science weapon Vegapunk was involved in making. But the fact that it could be either or an intentional Imu pun does make a ton of sense and seem like an Oda thing to do.
@derrickmiles5240
@derrickmiles5240 Жыл бұрын
There's a shocking oversight in the translation. That isn't even covered in this video. When Imu refers to the invention of Vegapunk, Imu uses the word という. This is better translated as purport. Thus the Mother Flame's status as Vegapunk's invention is only purported or rumored. But I think you're on to something with the word play angle, because mother frame brought me somewhere interesting. I thought of WCI. Mother's picture frame. That made me remember Mother Carmel's backstory. Particularly the scene where she quelled the fires of Elbaf by turning them into a homie called Pandora. When Mother Carmel tells Pandora to simmer down, all the flames get compressed into this tiny little sun, which glows brightly like some kind of unlimited power source. 🤔 Notably Pandora refers to Carmel as "Mother". Meaning that if the WG asked Pandora who made him, he would simply answer "Mother". The WG wouldn't know what to think by that answer, and would probably just assume that it was one of Vegapunk's many discarded experiments, but might still call it The Mother Flame in reference to it's answer. 🌞 But maybe it goes even further than that. Maybe Vegapunk was the one who originally discovered Pandora. And maybe he used Pandora to fuel the MADS ship. Something happened to the ship and Vegapunk abandoned it. It floated around the ocean for many years and eventually fell into the hands of the WG.
@frostdude229
@frostdude229 Жыл бұрын
2:12 I love how Nami's design in this clip is derived from Luffy's Artwork on what are fishman
@brettwallace7687
@brettwallace7687 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone noticed that World Nobles are either some of the most physically powerful characters in the series, or by far some of the weakest?
@LeKNG
@LeKNG Жыл бұрын
They probably have the highest potential outside of the D. But most don't care enough to reach it
@brettwallace7687
@brettwallace7687 Жыл бұрын
@@LeKNG That is what I was thinking as well.
@acshepard6779
@acshepard6779 Жыл бұрын
Inbreeding strengthens the good genes and worsens the bad genes at the same time
@GoatAmv
@GoatAmv Жыл бұрын
I’m convinced that Imu has the mystical zoan devil fruit that has something to do with the void of space considering all the planets are taken care of and the sun too
@Sojorlos
@Sojorlos Жыл бұрын
Mjosgard, the God that became human again by, literally, dying for a merfolk, showing respect and admiration for another race. Poetic. What makes a human, human?
@Derekloffin
@Derekloffin Жыл бұрын
Ah! Interesting for the star thing. Explains the recent confusion in FFXIV to me as there they have very clearly been using star to refer to planets.
@snowwhite1494
@snowwhite1494 Жыл бұрын
I saw a good theory that Kuma was trying to obey his last order to kill Mjosgard and thats why he was climbing the red line to Mariejois. Now i'm not so sure
@KingDJason
@KingDJason Жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying. I now understand much more. From now on I'm going to read both scans and official. ❤
@swaggleboon
@swaggleboon Жыл бұрын
Honestly my favorite name for the Gorosei is when you refer to them as "The Five Old Men"
@applepie895etetsffsffs
@applepie895etetsffsffs Жыл бұрын
Liam I think I have an idea about the identity of the D clan, in chapter 1066 shaka told robin that the empty century is the history of a war that was between 20 kingdoms and a specific kingdom which had an advanced civilization and after the 20 kingdoms victory they have formed an organization called the world government and then deleted everything that has something to do with that advanced kingdom from history, and shaka said that he thinks the ohara incident happened because they found out about that kingdom’s existence, and then in the latest chapter imu said that D was the name of our enemies, what if the people who used to live in that advanced kingdom are the D clan? I think they were so powerful and dangerous and they were a serious menace since 20 kingdoms had to cooperate with each other just to face that specific kingdom I mean wow!
@sebastiangailbreath3087
@sebastiangailbreath3087 Жыл бұрын
7:32 maybe frame could be referring to something similar to the giant robot from the ancient kingdom we see on egghead👀
@MortimerFolchert
@MortimerFolchert Жыл бұрын
Interesting how nobody mentioned yet, that the word choice of "I desire Vivi" could be related to Vegapunk explaining how Devil Fruits are the manifestation of People's desire.
@sasukuto
@sasukuto Жыл бұрын
So you mention how the most recent chapters have made the world government feel like a threat again after there blunders in Wano, but I think the reason why the WG is so big of a threat right now is BECAUSE of there mistakes in Wano. Like between the awakening of Gear 5th along side all the crap that went down in the reverie, the world govenement lost ALLOT of face for that. And like not only with us as readers, but with the characters in the world of one piece. Multiple nations started a rebellion because of the mistakes they made during the Wano arc.They screwed up. So now, in an attempt to save face, they are letting loose all the big guns they've been holding back this entire time. They know that the world stopped seeing them as a big threat, and now they are puffing up there chest and putting on a show so that way everybody knows exactly who is in charge here.
@KilroyStillHere
@KilroyStillHere Жыл бұрын
Seeing liam pronounce flame sounds so badass
@FrarmerFrank
@FrarmerFrank Жыл бұрын
My guess is that the power source Vegapunk made can be channeled like how Franky's Colapunk engine on the Sunny can run the docking bay,,chicken run,Coup de burst but also be directed into a cola plasma blast through the Goan Cannon (likely Oda was inspired by Star Blazers for the Sunny)
@elizabethlovett4318
@elizabethlovett4318 Жыл бұрын
I too was wondering why people assumed Garling was Shanks' father but it wasn't because I hadn't seen Red or been aware of the Gorosei connecting Uta & Shanks to the Figarland name. It was because it was too odd that Garling couldn't even be speculated to be a different male relative other than father - as if uncles, brothers, cousins and grandfathers don't exist. Garling is likely the head of the Figarland family just as he is the commander of God's Knights. Is it likely that Garling is Shanks' father or grandfather over other male relations? Yes. I just found the seemingly baseless elimination of other possibilities odd. Even naming Garling the former ruler is odd to me now. I thought as many others did that this meant he was King of God Valley until the supposed destruction of God Valley during the fight Roger & Garp had against the Rocks pirates. But now I think it was simply Oda making it clear the Figarlands were the original royal family of God Valley before they became Celestial Dragons hundreds of years ago rather than saying Garling himself was the actual King of God Valley at one point. Didn't Doflamingo say his family was the original royal family of Dressrosa before they became Celestial Dragons so Dressrosa needed a new royal family to rule over Dressrosa when they left for Mary Geoise? Isn't that why he specifically chose Dressrosa to be the 'King' of? To regain some of what he viewed as his rightful place after being denied his status as a Celestial Dragon. Seems Oda is further hyping the Figarland name and we may learn more about God Valley if he's connecting the Figarland name with God Valley. All the Celestial Dragon families were royalty of their own nations before the creation of the World Government and after its creation, these families rose above all other royals and moved to Mary Geoise and had to give up their status as royalty to become the gods of the world. They went from Kings to Gods. I hope we learn more about the Figarlands, God Valley and Shanks' history. Since Oda is repeatedly mentioning/hyping up the Figarland name and God Valley, I can only wonder what more we'll learn about those three things. We probably won't learn more until post Egghead or during Elbaf since it feels like this will be a cliffhanger and that the next chapter will go back to the events at Egghead. If it turns out that the Figarland's are not celestial dragons I'll be happy, though it's less interesting for them to seemingly be just esteemed guards or a guard even if they guard the Gods. Especially since I was hoping the Figarland family had more direct ties to the Ancient Kingdom, Joy Boy, Nika or the Void Century somehow.
@rohankishibe8259
@rohankishibe8259 Жыл бұрын
I myself didn't watch the red movie, I didn't like the idea behind it and it's the 2nd movie of one piece I deliberately didn't watch, the other one was the chopper movie, yeah, that's how dumb the plot of red sounded to me, just like super broly movie, "let's bring a fan favourite character and make a lackluster movie about it" totally lazy, and it's unforgivable to ruin a plot point for a character like shanks in a lazy movie idea like red.
@acshepard6779
@acshepard6779 Жыл бұрын
True, I guess some popular theorist said he's his father and the said theorist's meatriders went along with it Watch them be disappointed (edit: and whine and cry) in a few months when it gets revealed that he isn't Shanks' father 😂
@anotherpawn
@anotherpawn Жыл бұрын
Film Red heavily implies that Shanks is a part of the Figarland family. So he's basically confirmed to be related to Garling. Also, Garling is refered to as "man who distinguished himself at God Valley" rather than king in the official translation. The Figarlands are probably just strong Celestial Dragons.
@heh.5358
@heh.5358 Жыл бұрын
May you rest in piece mjosgard you might not have been the best character but you changed your ways and became a better man and the world thank you for your sacrifice
@lm_gonna_kms
@lm_gonna_kms Жыл бұрын
Yo I haven’t seen anyone talk about how since that was the mother flames first test it means something else must have made godvalley dissappear
@ObiClon
@ObiClon Жыл бұрын
This video shows that even after I read the scans I should re-read the chapters again when the Viz translations come out.
@emilydonegan3208
@emilydonegan3208 Жыл бұрын
I personally think that there is some link between Garling and Catarina Devon. The Crescent Moon Hair and the Crescent Moon Hunter
@ethanwiseman25
@ethanwiseman25 Жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who thought this but to me "mother flame" made sense in the scans cause right after one of the five enders said something along the lines of "it would make sense to test it on forested land not open sea" as a flame weapon would be naturally better against grass and trees as opposed to just a boat on water.
@TypicalMage
@TypicalMage Жыл бұрын
Official scans also still use Zolo. But I agree, it's always worth checking out both.
@PunkNamaka
@PunkNamaka Жыл бұрын
IMU gives me sully sabo brother vibezz. How sully was drooling over vivi same as IMU for LiLy
@Hayastan80
@Hayastan80 Жыл бұрын
thx bro. was worth it
@090420337
@090420337 Жыл бұрын
I love this type of videos. Thanks my dude
@exlord699
@exlord699 Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail with Sabo blushing is insane
@malikdiallo7567
@malikdiallo7567 Жыл бұрын
Kinda makes more sense why shanks is so respected in the marines tho. Yes he’s strong but he has royal ties that makes him even scarier
@MerchHunterRicky
@MerchHunterRicky Жыл бұрын
8:46 i think imu refers to themselves as Mu once in the English official translation btw, page 5 “why do you hide it from Mu?”
@AlexanderTimelin-pq2eo
@AlexanderTimelin-pq2eo Жыл бұрын
Bro the click bait man😂 gets me every time
@affanfaizi786
@affanfaizi786 Жыл бұрын
0:01 colossal, indeed
@rahjanjames
@rahjanjames Жыл бұрын
Netflix just dropped the live action trailer for the one piece we need a video on it right now I refuse to watch anybody else’s opinions but yours
@samjoshwilliams4713
@samjoshwilliams4713 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense, may I remind you that before Stampede, we've all been calling "Laughtale," "Raftel!"
@BatmanOfficial.
@BatmanOfficial. Жыл бұрын
Yeah there are little canons in them specially film red and stampede but they are still pretty sucks movies. Deffinetly all of them skipple
@AKU-kh6lz
@AKU-kh6lz Жыл бұрын
Garling being someone on the same level as Garp actually makes me more scared. Mostly because we just saw what Garp was capable of so if Garling is on the same level as that then that will be a bit of a problem. I wonder if Shanks will be fighting him.
@baldmark_yt
@baldmark_yt Жыл бұрын
i always find these videos as soon as they come out and its so good
@lazylonewolf
@lazylonewolf Жыл бұрын
A Frame to contain the Flame? When I read the scans, the first thing that came to mind is Adolla Burst from Fire Force.
@PeanutDestroyU
@PeanutDestroyU Жыл бұрын
The execution vaguely looks like crucifixion but I could be wrong
@marioludwig4034
@marioludwig4034 Жыл бұрын
Mother Flame sounds like Divine Breath, wich played a huge role in the latest One Piece game, wich Oda was also involved with. I can give this much info without spoiling too much.
@VBall1295
@VBall1295 Жыл бұрын
I’m definitely someone who focuses on the scans but even I noticed with this chapter I’d need to check out the official Viz since Garlands name was written “Saint Garland Figerland” which made me suspicious of its accuracy, especially with all these names being revealed
@idkijustuploadrandomstuffl7289
@idkijustuploadrandomstuffl7289 Жыл бұрын
im here for the thumbnail
@leod5179
@leod5179 Жыл бұрын
厶(Mu) in japanese is the radical used in kanjis to refer to one self like 私 (watashi) is formed with this radical. Even though it's funny to think imu calling themselves mu is not really like a nickname, idk ive been studying linguistics but i could be wrong here
@pica2754
@pica2754 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for mysogard. It proves that the fishmen will never be treated as equals as long as the WG and celestial dragons are around.
@smkryptic
@smkryptic Жыл бұрын
Video 215 I love the videos and I hope your day was great. Keep up the great work.
@ReiseLukas
@ReiseLukas Жыл бұрын
VIZ? GOSPEL? I have but one word to say to refute that ridiculous notion: ZoLo🤣
@loile7336
@loile7336 Жыл бұрын
fishmen island was one of my FAV. the fish ppl popping pills to get strong , first post time skip fight. what’s not to like
@TheGibber
@TheGibber Жыл бұрын
One interesting tidbit is that フレーム often refers to mechas in manga, so maybe we be gundam'ing
@AndrewL718
@AndrewL718 10 ай бұрын
The mother frame flame lol xD
@owlthemolfar4690
@owlthemolfar4690 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video! Mosgard death may be good actually. Since there no place for doubt dealing the World Nobles, now they are all straight bad. Down with them.
@yashsalunkhe9499
@yashsalunkhe9499 Жыл бұрын
Interesting Thumbnail
@pokemonamv9633
@pokemonamv9633 Жыл бұрын
Make a video on onepiece live action teaser and what’s ur thoughts about it. I personally think it’s awesome
@jay15951
@jay15951 Жыл бұрын
I feel like shanks would give the hat right back but with an acknowledgment of luffys great pirtaeness something like "your definatly a great pirate but that hat is yours now afterall ehat woukd the strae hat oirate sbe without it" or something
@Kfoglarsson
@Kfoglarsson Жыл бұрын
Weird how the industry works in regards to things being allowed to even become misstranslated in the first place. It's just kind of allowed to happen. And it's very seldom that they go out of their way to correct something or just tell the audience what the translation is supposed to mean.
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