What gear do I need to get into Wing Foiling? / Part 2 Boards & Foils

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3 жыл бұрын

If you're looking to get into wing foiling this year, but are unsure where to start and what type of gear to look at, then this video series is for you.
In part one we focused on getting the right wing, which is incredibly important. But equally important is using the right board and foil under your feet. Different size and ability of riders will want different size boards and foils. Knowing the difference between these board and foil sizes will allow you to enjoy a faster and safer learning curve into the sport. Getting the right equipment will also make it easier to transition into SUP surf foiling as well, which will give you even more value for money when it comes to kit.
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@dominostimes2119
@dominostimes2119 3 жыл бұрын
2:00 Boards 5:01 Boxes (2 types) 5:43 Nose & board sizes 13:38 Box (and weight) placement 14:30 Foot straps 19:24 Foils (Front wing) Low Aspect Ratio 26:00 High Aspect Ratio 29:02 Curved HAR 33:44 Mast (Carbon & Aluminium) 35:22 Mast length / Level differences 37:06 Fuselage (Length) 37:35 Stabilizer 41:00 Mast length bonuses
@SteveSchultz7
@SteveSchultz7 3 жыл бұрын
Best education on SUP and foiling I’ve seen, well done and much appreciated.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve.
@BitcoinTradingEASY
@BitcoinTradingEASY 3 жыл бұрын
The best tutorial about Wings, foils, and boards I have never seen. Congrats!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@jeroenthibaut6060
@jeroenthibaut6060 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! great videos! Thanks for taking the time to go through this in depth in a non-commercially directed way. Much appreciated!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Wicked, thanks for the nice feedback.
@nikosskouroliakos5816
@nikosskouroliakos5816 3 жыл бұрын
Great job man!! Very helpful!
@waffle_ninja
@waffle_ninja 2 жыл бұрын
Single best video on KZfaq for this type of info...
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice words.
@danthomas9624
@danthomas9624 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the great advice contained in this and the Part 1 video!!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
You're so welcome! Have fun Dan
@krisnis
@krisnis 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the review I’ve been looking for! Really informative with some great tips! Thanks!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Glad so much it helped, thanks for the comment , happy flying :-)
@Kwaxomat
@Kwaxomat 3 жыл бұрын
wow, what a wealth of information, thank you! Everything starts to make sense now! Appreciate your work a lot!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Great
@pieceforpeacejustgoodstree5488
@pieceforpeacejustgoodstree5488 3 жыл бұрын
Definitly one of the best Videos (Reviews) ever seen in WWW. THX!!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@charlieheberle8802
@charlieheberle8802 3 жыл бұрын
Epic video. This really helped as did the video on wings. Best description of the equipment I've found so far. Miles ahead of the other videos! thanks.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@garyrobinson7128
@garyrobinson7128 3 жыл бұрын
Best video on youtube regarding wing foiling thanks alot!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@rnyt201
@rnyt201 Жыл бұрын
Solid advice. I wasn't planning on watching this whole thing but it really was informative as I I gather intel on this new exciting hobby. Big thanks.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag Жыл бұрын
Great to hear this video was informative and helpful for you. thank you
@irishsupdublin
@irishsupdublin 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video guys. So looking forward to the wing test .....🤔🤤
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul. Quite a big edit that one. Im in studio today bringing the wing test together so we want it out at end of week. 🤞 Reuben
@grahamspencer903
@grahamspencer903 Жыл бұрын
Great information for learning about foils! Thanks!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag Жыл бұрын
Awesome that this helped you. Beau
@boardmeetingusa9405
@boardmeetingusa9405 3 жыл бұрын
Dual use board, is a great idea. Sup foil and wing foil board all in one. Thank you for the videos. Enjoy your Board Meetings.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@shen7256
@shen7256 2 жыл бұрын
This is off the scale for quality advice! Thanks! 🤙
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the nice words. Im happy it has helped. Thanks Reuben
@sincysimon
@sincysimon 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome educational video. Really helpful. What a mindfield! Thank you.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found this video helpful. Thanks, Beau
@esbjornbeckmann9231
@esbjornbeckmann9231 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video and very well produced ! Thanks!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Esbjorn
@miltabib
@miltabib 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video! Thanks for all the great information you gave.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@spirosgiourgas3317
@spirosgiourgas3317 3 жыл бұрын
Very very nice video you clear all the fog in my mind and how to choose my first foil. Thanks
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@richekie2746
@richekie2746 3 жыл бұрын
As always so helpful awesome work 🤙
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Wicked
@jeremywootton8343
@jeremywootton8343 3 жыл бұрын
Great couple of videos, thank you. I have my foil and wing, just waiting on arrival of board. Really looking forward to the next video in the series, the experiences you share save so much 'trial and error' on my part!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
This is perfect and what the video series was meant to be for. So great to hear it.
@garywoodward8759
@garywoodward8759 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative. Well presented. Thanks
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@philipdunn7408
@philipdunn7408 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant in depth info thanks keep it up
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
You bet
@joeybongo7267
@joeybongo7267 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful!! TNX.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
No worries Joey
@lizphillips2283
@lizphillips2283 3 жыл бұрын
Love all your line graphics
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. We have them on SUPboarder clothing now too which looks really cool. www.supboardermag.com/shop/page/2/ Reuben
@garsofe
@garsofe 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much it is very helpfull
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Glad you found it useful. Beau
@gengar678
@gengar678 26 күн бұрын
Great video. Just 1 thing: the air/water over the wing has to travel further than underneath. Therefore there is lower pressure over the wing and the wing lifts up by pulling, not pushing.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 24 күн бұрын
Yes correct , well spotted . Happy foiling Reuben
@VasinAtBangkok
@VasinAtBangkok 3 жыл бұрын
You can be very detailed and informative I already want to do it
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
We hope it helped
@spacesticklab
@spacesticklab 3 жыл бұрын
We make foilsurf and foilsup boards for winging - really appreciate you making these informative videos and would like to share
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@zunezvenzon1748
@zunezvenzon1748 3 жыл бұрын
Nice !!!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@ProCoder2007
@ProCoder2007 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome series! Love it! Had a wing foil course a few days ago and got directly hooked :) hang loose!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!
@benbailey-igetstarted6438
@benbailey-igetstarted6438 2 жыл бұрын
Where'd you get trained?
@ProCoder2007
@ProCoder2007 2 жыл бұрын
In Germany at Wingsurf Fehmarn :)
@warrenp8502
@warrenp8502 3 жыл бұрын
Very educational, thanks! Now to start saving my pennies.... a LOT of pennies!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is the downside to getting into foiling.
@XPLRWRLD
@XPLRWRLD 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I just started Kitesurfing 6 months ago and fall in love - also suggest to start Foiling due to Light Wind at the moment :D I also started a Kitesurfing Vlog, let me know your thoughts :) Keep up the great work!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
I'll check it out!
@chrisjanzen3421
@chrisjanzen3421 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched both parts of this video series, and your explanations are so clear and concise. Thanks so much! I'm trying to choose a setup of wing/foil/board that will allow me to learn the sport, but I also don't want to grow out of the gear too quickly. I'm 75-80kg and I'd be foiling/SUPing on lighter to moderate winds. I was thinking 5m wing, and eventually get a 1800cm foil, and 120L board (not sure of board length to choose)... does that sound like a reasonable setup. Lastly do you have any brands that you would recommend (or stay away from) on the cheaper side of things - I don't need high performance, but durability is probably important. Thanks again for these videos.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris. You gear ideas sound pretty good at the moment. This size foil will work well for you size and last you a few years. Board wise there are no really bad boards if the price is right. I still think brands like Naish and Fanatic Armstrong have good board sizes. Second hand ones of theses would be a good buy. Size wise you will need a bit of length to start with just because they are really hard to paddle with if really short to start off with. Around 7' is a good place to start with (if just for winging you could go shorther). But this is one bit of gear you might down size pretty quick. So buying second hand can make it easier on the wallet! Foot-straps are still a must I feel for a fast learning curve. Thanks Reuben
@peterinsyracuse7056
@peterinsyracuse7056 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative! My typical sailing areas have a lot of weeds in the water, both floating and growing in shallow areas. How sensitive are foils to catching weeds? I typically have to use a weed fin on my windsurfer boards.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, we also have lots of weed in our wing location. The really big bits of weed that are fairly thick sometimes get stuck around the foil but if we are moving fast enough and for most of the time we can cut through weed quite easily. It definitely seems to get caught or stay on the foil less than with Windsurfer. But I guess it's all due to how thick your weed is the foils tend to cut through the weed pretty easily if you can keep the speed up on the foil. I also find it much easier to dodge the seaweed also because you are higher up off the water and it's easier to transfer your weight and tone sharper and keep on the foil compare to a WindSurfer as well. Thanks Reuben
@johnphillips4733
@johnphillips4733 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you recommend starting out with footstraps, I'd planned to put them on for my first go when our lake re-opens but everyone keeps telling me not to bother for the first few goes. I've done plenty of windsurfing, snowboarding and wakeboarding so used to them in my sports. I think I'm just going to put them on and see how I go.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, definitely if you've done other sports with bindings put the foot straps on straight away. When we have taught a number of people the majority of people do find having footstraps easier because they haven't got to worry about where they put their feet. I only wouldn't recommend it if somebody has had an ankle issue or feeling very uncomfortable with having their feet in the foot straps to start with. But I still think it's for the easiest way to get yourself up and riding and balanced on the board. Thanks Reuben
@kiterJ
@kiterJ 3 жыл бұрын
I agree re footstraps ie either both feet in or both feet out. Otherwise asking for an ankle or knee twist injury when falling 🤙. Just my experience/opinion of course
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. 👍🏼
@333cgs333
@333cgs333 Жыл бұрын
Great video. What are the details of the front wing you are holding? The 1800cm2 one. Thx
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag Жыл бұрын
Hi Carlos. The foil is a Aixs 102 supboardermag.com/equipment_guide/axis-foil-102cm/ but i think they have made it into the axisfoils.com/collections/all-complete-foils/products/super-easy-start-foil-package-1040 I use loads of different foils but the Aixs stuff is still great and easy to use, compared to many other brands. Thanks Reuben
@drlv3250
@drlv3250 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, awesome video, super helpful! One question, i am interested in a pump foil/ light wind wing foil. Should i go with an Axis PNG 1150 or PNG 1010? I weigh 70kg.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm.. I see your dilemma! TBH I'm not 100% on pump foil yet with these newer super HA foil anyway. But I feel that you could be better off with the 1010 because it will allow you to use the foil in a little wider wind conditions with the wing. If it was just for pumping I would go for the 1150. Make sense? Thanks Reuben
@StabilizerMotion
@StabilizerMotion 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Would you recommend something like the f one rocket air wing/wind/sup foil at 7’11/31inch wide board for beginner wingfoiling in choppy/gusty ocean or something wider/shorter? Like 7’2/34? Rider weigh is 110kg, 1.98m tall. Background little experience windsurfing with 180-230lts 80cm wide board and frequent paddler with 330 liter SUP 34 inch wide. I would like to keep the versatility of the 7’11 as SUP/WINDFOIL/WINDSURF options BUT ONLY IF it doesn’t make wingfoil learning curve harder. Eventually I will probably get 140 liters dedicated wingboard. Thanks!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael Like you have probably guessed a wider board will give you that bit more stability but length does help as well.... For a 110kg rider both these boards will work BUT, I would say go for the wider shorter board because when you are up and riding on the foil you will feel the extra length more than the extra width and the length (swing weight) can make riding harder. Thanks Reuben
@martinomovies
@martinomovies 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a 2021 Cabrinha X-Fly Foilboard? I'm 100 KG and have a Naish Hover 140 L. I'm still having a very hard time getting on foil. I get on 2-3 times per one hour session. It's very frustrating. What board brand is easiest for getting up? Would going down to 130 L be easier for me to get up? Or do I just need to lose 10 KG?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jake, It's the 2020 Cabrinha, the new 2021 has better footstrap positions. Anyway... regs your board choice. I would say its probably more to do with the foil or wing size then board. In general the longer board the faster it should move across the water and the easier it should help to get you up (on average). I would say the hover is a good board for your weight. There may be better boards for you Im sure but it should be pretty good really. As I said it sounds like you haven't got enough lift going on. At your weight you will need to be on a 2200cm + foil and a 6m wing. Is that what you have now? Please get back, but also check out SUPboarder Pro as well www.supboardermag.com/pro its our sub service, where we answer as many questions you want about getting on the right gear for you. YT doesn't always remind us of older and longer comments threads (very annoying). Thanks Reuben
@oadolfss
@oadolfss 3 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks! Have been windsurfing for ages, but is there a wing foil setup I could use for wing foiling (on a dedicated board) and windsurf foiling on a compatible windsurf board, let's say, equipped with a Tuttle box? I'm not so hot for one of the specialised windsurf foiling boards, since I love windsurfing with a fin, but rather a foil compatible windsurf board slalom/freeride for the occasion. So basically, is there a foil set that can be used for both or are the sizes (front/back wing for example) totally different? I would go for a very light wind setup, so big (beginner) wings, and I guess there are adapters for the Twin US vs Tuttle box issue.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Oskar, Yes you can use the same foil for both boards but you will need a SUP with a foil box placed further forward on a board. The foil can go in the same deep tuttle on a windsurf board. And yes you are best off using a brand that makes the top sections of the foil removable. Then you can add a DT or double US box as required. Foil size wise you will find windsurf foils will be much thinner and more high aspect then wing foils but when starting off using more of an all round wing foil will work on a windsurf board but it may be worth buying into a brand that is easy to add / change front foil for each discipline in future as you really get into it. Any help ? Thanks Reuben
@shreddagorge
@shreddagorge 2 жыл бұрын
Also be careful because the Tuttle box on older windsurf boards is not the same as the Deep Tuttle box, and also not reinforced for the levered forces of a hydrofoil. I switched from windsurfing to kiting ages ago but recently got a SIC Marlin 7'8" convertible board for windfoiling and eventually downwind SUP and wing foiling. Having tried a number of windsurf/foil convertibles (JP, various Slingshots, Starboard Hypernut), I gave up on believing one board can work for both windsurf and wing foiling. Foil mast track placement, as Rueben says, is the issue.
@shreddagorge
@shreddagorge 2 жыл бұрын
For the foil I'm using a Cabrinha Varial Medium (~1330) and find it's too fast for a beginner to learn on and doesn't stay on foil at lower speeds for me (175 lbs). I use it for kite foiling just fine. I've also used the Slingshot Infinity 76 and 84 and find them slower and easier to learn windfoiling with (24" mast to start with). Will be switching to Lift 200 for learning SUP foiling.
@kyledanielson4288
@kyledanielson4288 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video again guys!! I've just sold my 8'5 Naish Mana and 7'11 RRD to make way for a combination SUP/ Wing foil board. I was looking at the Hypenut 2in1 8" 31.5 134L, I weigh 75kg but from the video it seems 8" ft is extremely long and may not be suitable? I plan to get a smaller kite/prone/wing board when I have the foiling down and would still want the SUP for SUP surfing and foiling. Do you feel the Hypernut is a good options?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kyle at your weight I would try and drop some length if you can. Do you want it for Windsurfing? If not look towards the 7'4 it maybe a drop in volume but remember using a foil will make the board feel different in it's stability...more stable. I think you will soon get used to it. It will surf much better too! (non foil) Then in the end you will be riding a 5'5"-6' board for just your foiling, give it a year or so. Make sense? Thanks Reuben
@kyledanielson4288
@kyledanielson4288 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag Thanks Reuben for the feedback. No not for winsurfing, only SUP surf/ SUP foil and to get started with the wing. I'm just concerned as 7.4 is around 100L and when I tried this volume, not a Hypenut, as a standard SUP it was a struggle. Would you say its easy enough just to go to a smaller wing foil board to learn to foil and wing at the same time? I would start on my inflatable SUP then to get a handle on the wing first.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the 100L will still be best. At first you will find it a little unstable but Im sure you will soon get the hang of it. Starting off with your wing with your iSUP is a great move to get used to the feel of the wing and winging back and forth. But then I would get on the foil board but don't worry about trying to get up on the foil. Then after a few sessions build yourself up to it. Take your time and try to get feel for each element and you will be flying better and quicker in the end. Thanks Reuben
@marcalfaro3943
@marcalfaro3943 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, as always!! Thanks for all the info! If I may, I would like to ask for some advice.... I'm 75kgs, intermediate at surfing and paddleboarding, looking to get into sup and wing foiling. I'm thinking to get a wing during the winter and start learning to use it on skis/iceskates (I live in the mountains), and when the snow melts start using it on the water and on the coast. Because of my location, I'm thinking to get something a bit more multipurpose, like the S25 Hover SUP at 120L. I'm also considering a 5.5/6.5 Gong HIPE or an inflatable Hover 135L, but I'm afraid those I won't be able to use them as much as the SUP...but again, I'd like to keep it the smallest possible for traveling purposes. Any thoughts or tips come to mind that I haven't thought of? Thanks and keep the good work.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
I hear you Marc. I think a board like the Hover will be much better as a SUP for sure. We have been using a few iSUP foil boards lately and they aren't the easiest to use without a wing. They seam very pivotable and don't want to paddle in a straight line. I think you progression will be faster with a board like the Naish. Does that help? Thanks Reuben
@marcalfaro3943
@marcalfaro3943 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag Totally!! Thanks Reuben!!!!
@marcalfaro3943
@marcalfaro3943 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag One last thing! Wouldn't the middle fin on the Gong Hipe 6.5 help with all the pivoting?Thx!!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you will find the fin on the Gong will help when not foiling absolutely. But I can imagine paddling it without the foil underneath as a non-falling board would still be a bit of a handful. If it had an extra thin box at the back of the board that would really help. (Of course talking about nonfiling and using it as a traditional Sup) Thanks Reuben
@marcalfaro3943
@marcalfaro3943 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag Awesome, Reuben!! Thanks a lot!!!
@czapkofan
@czapkofan 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thank you so much! Could I ask you for some specific help & advice? I'm 70-75kg, have 7m Duotone Echo + Gong Zuma 6'6 (2019) + Gong Allvator XXL (2500cm2). I'm having fun on foil when it's enough wind on my lake, but I'd really like to optimize as much as possible for the lightest possible winds; is there something you would recommend me to change? Next season I plan to try adding straps (avoided them when learning for safety); do you think changing the board (or something else?) could bring some more improvement? If board, could you advise what aspects to focus on? I was guessing short and wide probably, but I just don't know :/ Could you help me? Specific models recommendations would be super appreciated, but also generaly what to look for as most important if the the models are not available in my country. As I said, I'm single-handedly most interested in easiest possible takeoff and foiling in the lightest imaginable winds (and secondarily if possible upwind ability when wind is even lighter). And just in case, I'd unfortunately prefer to avoid Gong, having had an awful story with their quality & customer service. I'd be super extremely grateful for your advice, given that you have so much experience! 💖💖💖
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Sure thing. Well first off it sounds like you are thinking about it all the right way. I too love the light wind winging. Here are my top gear tips... -A board that is short will offer less swing weight and you will be able to pump up on to the foil faster. But if you go too short you will be sinking which doesn't all ways help ether. At present i would say 5'5"- 6'2" works well. - I believe footstraps are a must. I can get up in so much less wind when using them. - Foil wise big is good but at the same time it will be come harder to pump. I would stick with what you have at present unless you want to change it up. I love foils around 1800 in light winds. - Your wing is a perfect light wind weapon. Don't change it! Stand out boards at present for me are. Naish, Armstrong, Starboard. can you get any of those? Any help thanks Reuben
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why its got a line through it??
@czapkofan
@czapkofan 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag Ahhh, about the line I was confused too but now understand: youtube made a "strikethrough" line between two "minus" signs you put in the comment :D first minus was the "bullet", another was the one between 5'5" and 6'2"; anyway, thank you so much for the advice!!! 💖💖💖 I will definitely start with trying to add straps then; if that won't help me enough, I'll look around for a new board. Thanks again Reuben and all the best to you & the Team! Oh, and also I had no idea that a bigger foil might make pumping harder, didn't see this mentioned ever by anyone... that's a suggestion I was completely unprepared to hear... but from what you say I understand shorter board is probably still something to look at first. Thank you so much!
@clairescott2452
@clairescott2452 2 жыл бұрын
great info, I have a 2020 hyper nut 4 in 1 coming and a 4.2 wing, (7.4) Id like to know what fin size is going to be best for the tuttle box to learn before using the foil option . in lakes mostly to start with.. Im 72kg ?For best up wind assistance.. thanks all
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Claire, you might find that the board works best with a fin that isnt any bigger than 9". TBH you could always use 2 x US fins instead of 1 tuttle box fin. Probably cheaper and more easy to get hold of. You can also use the 4 fins that come with the board too. 4 small fins will have the same effect as one big one. Its all about surface area at the end of the day. Thanks Reuben
@Manuelrehse
@Manuelrehse 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Sorry if I have missed the information but are there hybrid boards, too? I mean boards where you can attach the hydro foil for foiling (obviously) or leave it off for "normal" surfing?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Good point Manual, Yes there are. Most of them are still around 7'-8' they do work well to get you on the water doing lots of different disciplines. The downside to these boards is if you really get into foiling the length does become more of an issue. Especially when you are wing foiling. So just like with everything there is a compromise and if you find that you want to do all of the disciplines including traditional Sup surfing with one board then they will work for this. But if you feel like you will be edging towards becoming more of a wing foiler in the future then possibly going for a shorter board that's a little bit more specific to foiling will be better in the long run. Having said that these boards have a very good resale price so you can always decide that later on. I hope that helps and sorry I didn't cover it in the video. thanks Reuben
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh... Unless you mean surfing not supping. This can also possibly work too but obviously surf prone foil boards have a lot less volume so they will be more technical to use if you want to get out and wing foil with them first time. Definitely going for a board with enough volume to float you will make your wing foiling experience so much easier when you start.
@Manuelrehse
@Manuelrehse 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag Thanks! Good to know
@shreddagorge
@shreddagorge 2 жыл бұрын
@@Manuelrehse Been using a SIC Marlin 7'8" for windfoiling and some paddle SUPping and love it!
@00pringles
@00pringles 2 жыл бұрын
nice and useful video, just one note on how wings work. Water hitting the bottom and creating lift is not what wings to. If that was the case, you'd have way too much drag, same in airplanes with air. Wings create lift by inducing lower pressure (air or water) on the upper side thanks to their shape, curved above and straight below, so the wing is sucked upwards
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Great thanks for the comment Paolo. 👍🏼
@aidsgats
@aidsgats 6 ай бұрын
With mast lengths, you mention that a longer mast will cause bigger impacts after breaching due to the drop but is it also possible that they breach the surface less often than shorter masts as the foils have much more depth to travel? With more skill and technique, can impacts be controlled with either long or short masts?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 6 ай бұрын
Yes very very true.. good point well raised. Thanks Reuben
@rscaneable
@rscaneable 3 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone. I have a Sup board (Pullen 10'). Will It work fine with the foil mount?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
It will work. But like I said in your other comment the board will feel very long. It could be a good progression to get you into foiling but I'm sure you will want to get a shorter board. Thanks Reuben
@drowsy4312
@drowsy4312 Жыл бұрын
I am going to build my own board and foil out of fiberglass with a wood & Styrofoam core. Its going to be used on open ocean, really small waves, choppy water, low wind condition 8 -15 kt. For SUP & wing foiling. I weight 80kg and have no practice surfing or foiling. what would be a good board and foil design or brand to use as reference ? as in "I suggest you build something similar to this board and this one is a good foil"
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag Жыл бұрын
Hey Drowsy . I guess the question is what gear can you get your hands and see it, to shape it from, locally? A good shape board would be something like a www.naishsurfing.com/product/hover-wing-foil-carbon-ultra/ 110L . its got a simple bottom shape. Foil wise something around 1500-1800cm2 front foil. TBH I would just buy a foil. Get something cheap like a Aztron or Gong. Making your own gear is a great idea and I have been think about making a board myself. But the problem with making gear when you are beginner is that youre going to out grow whatever you make quite quickly. Or maybe quicker then it takes to make it. Any help ? Thanks Reuben
@blazicgal4566
@blazicgal4566 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, is gong rise L good for smal waves? (for sup foiling)
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely , at your weight you could surf knee to shoulder high with that.
@keithfong1684
@keithfong1684 2 жыл бұрын
if volume is the same, will you prefer 4'5" or 5"3 board?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Keith. If I was flat water wing foiling only I would choose a shorter baseboard but if I was going in the surf with my foil then I would opt for the bigger board. I just find having that little bit more length helps in lighter winds if I need to get out back when not on the foil. thanks Reuben
@tuckerswanson1553
@tuckerswanson1553 3 жыл бұрын
So for someone who has surf and SUP experience who is looking to get into wing foiling what would be a good length? Right now I'm considering 5'8"/6'?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Yes sounds good. If you wanted to get into surf foiling as well I would say go a little bit longer. But forgetting up with the wing there will be no problem with that size board. Obviously your body weight is a big factor too? Thanks reuben
@tuckerswanson1553
@tuckerswanson1553 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag hi Ruben thanks for the reply. Yeah I weigh around 165 pounds so 74ish kg I think?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would be a good board length. Reuben
@Jeroensurf
@Jeroensurf 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid, but come on through with the wing test please.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
I want it out this week. Sorry for the wait. Reuben
@gerrys6265
@gerrys6265 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, my understanding is that With an airplane, dihedral makes the plane more stable and less maneuverable. Any idea why the difference? Great video, thanks
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Gerry. Im not going to get myself into a hole I cant get out of 😉. But with a surf wing and foil wing i feel it does make it easy to rock or roll from one side the other side. So better for going from turn to turn. But there are so many things that go into the feel in the water. As for with airplanes I don't want to comment what does what. Good comment, sorry I can get a firm answer to you about that one. thanks Reuben
@thechadfords
@thechadfords 3 жыл бұрын
Typical water foiling foils actually have anhedral; that is they slope down outboard along their length. Dihedral is defined as slope upwards along the length. Foils and airplane wings behave the same since both are creating upward lift, in that anhedral lends instability (which you want to maneuver your board) whereas dihedral lends stability. FYI On a airplane you'll see anhedral on high-wing aircraft (e.g. giant transports like C-5 Galaxy) which are inherently too stable due to the fuselage-wing interaction, whereas low wing aircraft you see dihedral to combat natural instability of the fuselage-wing position (e.g. typical Boeing/Airbus passenger jet).
@rscaneable
@rscaneable 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you have tried wing surfing with a windsurf board?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
We haven't yet but Im sure it would be possible. For best Performance getting on a shorter board will definitely help when foiling.
@ericegan5707
@ericegan5707 3 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between a prone vs SUP foiling board?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric Prone boards will have a lot less width and volume so it is easier to lie down and paddle them. You wont be able to stand up and paddle a prone board because you will be up to your arm pits in water😉. Does that help? Thanks Reuben
@funv3188
@funv3188 3 жыл бұрын
If I am 100 kg, would 100l board would be good ? Also what size wing would be good ? And what minimum wind speed do we need for such weight ?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
It really depends on how confident you are on the water. If you are used to standing on windsurf board etc then it could be ok. But for most people it would be better having a board with around 130L at your weight. A good foil and wing setup to learn and get you up in 15knts would be a 2400cm foil and a 6-7m wing. Obviously technique will be a big factor too. I hope that helps a little? Thanks Reuben
@funv3188
@funv3188 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag Thanks, I thought so 130 then, so 6m2 wing, but the foil size bit unclear. Thanks anyway.
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah sounds good. The foil front wing I think for you should be around 2400cm in size. Hope that helps?
@Ocanadakiter
@Ocanadakiter 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 270lbs. What size /litre of board would I need?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, for a beginner of your weight looking for a foil board I would say its going to have to be in the 160L -180L area. When you get the hang of it a board like the Starboard wingboard 7' would be a good board to offer you a good amount of performance. But to start off you will want aboard with more length and volume to make it as easy as possible. Hope that helps? Thanks reuben
@ypure3859
@ypure3859 3 жыл бұрын
money Money and more $$%%!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats true...
@chewchinglow9716
@chewchinglow9716 8 ай бұрын
❤❤❤🥰🥰🥰🥰😊
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 7 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@blazicgal4566
@blazicgal4566 3 жыл бұрын
I am 60kg is 75l board good?
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
That size could suit you for sure. But it does depend on your ability and what conditions you are going to use it in too.
@blazicgal4566
@blazicgal4566 3 жыл бұрын
@@SUPboardermag i wuld probably use it at small waves
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
That could work but The shorter you go the harder it is to catch waves. Volume shouldn't be too much of a problem. Sorry about delay on getting back.. YT doesn't remind us about comments on threads. Which is very annoying! Reuben
@doredesignfashionmodelskla3565
@doredesignfashionmodelskla3565 3 жыл бұрын
hey, über ein appo würd ich mich eben so freuen , ich bin neu hier und ich habe die coolsten Surfer-Design Klamotten anzubieten
@stevieb5008
@stevieb5008 3 жыл бұрын
just buy windsurf kit and save your money. plus you won't look a dick!
@SUPboardermag
@SUPboardermag 3 жыл бұрын
Its a funny one. I have been windsurfing for a long time! And I have to say Wing foiling does everything windsurf doesn't. -Gusty winds, no problem! -30sec rig up time. (if foil is ready) -Epic light wind action. -Great for carrying long distances. -So good for air travel (if we ever do that again)! -Great at going up wind. -Need less gear. But i do think you do look like a bit of a d##k LOL. Thanks Reuben
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