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What Gear is My Gear? Part 4: Focal Utopia (OG)...Very Picky, But Very Worth The Trouble

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Reviews By WaveTheory

Reviews By WaveTheory

Күн бұрын

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@kajetan9550
@kajetan9550 Жыл бұрын
That’s why this is my top reviewer channel together with goldensound. A scientific approach nowhere else to be met, which provides interesting insights, while not stopping on superficial level. This is killer content
@Peace_Guard
@Peace_Guard Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's fine. Could learn to be a bit less dry. His personality is definitely in desperate need of some psychedelics lol.
@spektrograf
@spektrograf Жыл бұрын
Well articulated and thoughtful review, as usual. Pretty much agreed on everything you articulated about the Utopia. I'll add the Chord Mojo 2 as a good
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic Жыл бұрын
Best series ever!
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic Жыл бұрын
P.s. I think we have the same taste as I originally had a HE1000SE in my case, upgraded to a Susvara and complimented that with the Utopia 2022. I absolutley loved the education in this video man. Amazing job. I hope Focal and Hifiman actually sponsor you somehow haha.
@orrman5
@orrman5 Жыл бұрын
You can get the 2022 version for $4K open box these days so that's a fairer comparison. It's also possible to get good condition OG for less than $2K so I agree it's one of the better deals in audio right now if the sound is for you and the chain is fitting. I recently bought a used OG for those exact reasons. I wish it had just a little more comfortable headband that's all.
@krisrudecki9477
@krisrudecki9477 Жыл бұрын
I use a knitted handband cover with 2 small pieces of foam underneath. Makes it really comfortable.
@Michael_mki233
@Michael_mki233 Жыл бұрын
If you are reading this, and thinking about a used OG Utopia, it cannot be stressed enough just how important overall system synergy is. The entire reason that they go for almost half price on the used market is because people don't understand just how source dependent they are, buy them, and hate how they sound because they don't have the right DAC&amp. The 2022 Utopia is a bit more forgiving in that regard, but it will still scream at you if you put it on something it doesn't like. I've found out the hard way.
@sjqideez6626
@sjqideez6626 Жыл бұрын
The OG Utopia can be an end game combo with the Euforia AE, trust
@chickenheads3746
@chickenheads3746 Жыл бұрын
GREAT review Wave, as always!! I really enjoyed it. If I sat in a chair with my smoking jacket on I’d need the “Sus”, but making a headphone that sounds as amazing as the HEKSE powered by portable gear that you can wear while running around the house dusting and chopping onions?? That’s nothing short of Fangtastic!!! Keep up the great work Wave, I always enjoy your reviews!! 👍👍
@michaelelliot3532
@michaelelliot3532 2 ай бұрын
Hey WaveTheory, great video! I have bought both the Utopia 2022 and the Utopia 2020 and planning to sell one of them. Currently I’m leaning towards the 2020. Which do you personally prefer?
@SIZLL
@SIZLL Жыл бұрын
Could you please request to review a higher end violectric like the V550 or the NIIMBUS? I go on all these forums and read about how legendary these amps are but lake people products rarely get reviewed on KZfaq. Your basically the only one.
@blackjack-ge3wt
@blackjack-ge3wt Жыл бұрын
I bought one for 2000€ used as a compliment to my Atrium. You are right, it is a very nice deal atm and it slaps HARD (even compared to Atrium).
@Leon-lg7zm
@Leon-lg7zm 8 ай бұрын
This is my next headphone and I will buy it used for a good price. I just hope they perform well with my Cayin HA-3A & Topping D90. I already have the HEKSE and you mentioned that the Utopia has better detail retrieval which excites me because the HEKSE is already so detailed, even more so than my LCD 4.
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 7 ай бұрын
this m9 should sound killer with lessfox, but currently its at very bad state
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 7 ай бұрын
cant score it just yet
@gregsullivan7408
@gregsullivan7408 Жыл бұрын
Nitpick: the title could be expressed more succinctly as simply "My Gear"
@FabioKasper
@FabioKasper Жыл бұрын
Someday... Maybe someday... Good series, man. 👊
@1257wizard
@1257wizard Жыл бұрын
I have a focal Clear MG hooked up to a McIntosh MHA200 and I have to say there are some days the "chain" in not correct ( streaming /electrical interference) I get a annoying lack of crisp notes and I have to give up for that session , the next day all is well and so perfect I could just cry with the clarity. I also found that my MG,s perform at a next level when put on the 100ohm setting on my amp.
@saphyaers8264
@saphyaers8264 Жыл бұрын
First here. Thank you for the very informative and entertaining sharing. Focal Utopia owner too - using only PC and Chord TT2. I listened to a lot of classical music and very curious about the Hifiman sound after this video.
@megadoodoo5088
@megadoodoo5088 Жыл бұрын
Planar has better resolution, stages, separation and more spacious presentation. Imo, generally for classical music Planar will do better. As for music that need more speed I would go for dynamics.
@joggometer5393
@joggometer5393 Жыл бұрын
​@@megadoodoo5088 Have to agree in most points. But speed - Hifiman planars Arya upwards are blazingly fast!
@saphyaers8264
@saphyaers8264 Жыл бұрын
Susvura .. the headphone itself is $$$ and I have to invest in a separate amp as I heard Chord TT2 alone cannot drive it properly. Thinking about the latest He1000 V2 Stealth edition 🤔
@slsmaster
@slsmaster 7 ай бұрын
Hi WaveTheory, currently owning a V200 + V850 Stack and got a V281 used. It really sounds to energetic with the Utopia. So I am planning to sell the V281 again, as I really want to hang onto the Utopia. I don't particularly like Hifimans either. What DAC would you recommend should I get as a upgrade? Soekris 2541 or Bitfrost 2/64? Also would you consider the Erzetich Perfidus an upgrade over the V200?
@newsigmundfreud3023
@newsigmundfreud3023 Жыл бұрын
*THANKS for your beautiful articulation about the important aspects of the sounds out of these amazing inventions producing the music that was recorded and mixed. If I may ask a somewhat old and repeated question: How about the Sennheiser HD800 in-between your only/endgame headphones choosing. In other words, why wouldnwt the HD800S fit in to there?*
@jeedmodorn5494
@jeedmodorn5494 Жыл бұрын
Great editorial. I have the '22 model, and it's a treat (coming from Clear which is already fantastic). It's feeding off the RME ADI-2 and seems to be happy. Plugged it into the FiiO M11 Plus and the drop in quality was mind bending. We're not talking "golden ears" subtleties here. If you happen to read this: have you tried the Utopia with tubes based headphones amp? Anything stood out in this context? Thanks and keep it up.
@ayushbhaumik7980
@ayushbhaumik7980 Жыл бұрын
Do you think headphones like utopia with a rising impedance curve will sound the best from a tube amplifier with a transformer in the output stage as they can produce very high voltage swings ? Can OTL tube amps or solid state amps control the utopia ? And do amps based on fully discrete topologies instead of op-amp based amps sound better ?
@wavetheorysound
@wavetheorysound Жыл бұрын
I steered clear of statements like "(amp type) is what you need." The reason being is that there isn't a magic bullet here. Can OTLs sound great with Utopia? Definitely. Do all of them? No. The same is true of other amp types as well. My best recommendation is to peruse the Head-Fi thread for Utopia. There is rich source gear conversation in there.
@Kyorakun
@Kyorakun Жыл бұрын
Hey, do you think the ferrum oor + hypsos can drive the og utopia well? Thanks
@maroz73
@maroz73 Жыл бұрын
hello , nice review . What cable have you used ?
@mtocful
@mtocful Жыл бұрын
the soundstage - is like a hotdog in front of you, standing...
@kerryvanderkamp5051
@kerryvanderkamp5051 Жыл бұрын
How does the Utopia compare to the Clear? That headphone is my personal favorite and I’m wondering how much diminishing return I would get upgrading to summit-fi.
@blejzerosamigos6115
@blejzerosamigos6115 Жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised that you didn't mention OTL, that is like a must have for FU.
@wavetheorysound
@wavetheorysound Жыл бұрын
I don't see OTL as the magic bullet for FU (hilarious abbreviation I probably can't be trusted with 🤣). Can Some OTL tube amps pair well? Absolutely! All? No. The same can be said for both transformer coupled tube amps and solid state amps as well. So I steered clear of saying things like "(type of amp) is what you need."
@blejzerosamigos6115
@blejzerosamigos6115 Жыл бұрын
@@wavetheorysound I would have to strongly disagree with your approach to OTL. To be specific I use Feliks Audio Esspresivo for my (FC og) and sennheiser 650's and 6xx(those are not the same, cable makes a big difference) this amp makes sennheiser headphones magical (specially for the vocals) I suppose more expensive Feliks gear will sound even better. But make no mistake for high impedance headphones OTL IS the best way to go about it. Thanks for your videos, great job.
@wavetheorysound
@wavetheorysound Жыл бұрын
@@blejzerosamigos6115 You're welcome! I enjoy doing this work. I 100% get where you're coming from with the OTL thing. I agree with you that many OTL amps improve the performance of many hi-Z headphones; the Senn HD600/650/6xx being great examples. To my ear those benefits are most heard in the entry-level and mid-fi ranges. My HD6XX (and I'll throw my 600 ohm Beyerdynamic DT880 in here too) sound good on a budget-enthusiast solid state amp like a Schiit Asgard 3, but they sound GREAT on an OTL like a Bottlehead Crack. However, it is also true that the 6XX and DT880 sound just as or even more spectacular on solid state amps that can handle their voltage demands. The Violectric HPA V2?? series is a key example, and has models that can be had in the low $1000 range. They also sound great on a hybrid like the Monolith Liquid Platinum which drives headphones with a solid state amp stage. Furthermore, I've heard other hi-Z headphones, like about half of ZMF's line for example, that don't experience nearly as big of changes as the Senns when moving from solid state to OTL. These experiences have discouraged me from making blanket claims of the form 'amp type x is the best match for headphone y'. To me it comes down to the synergy of individual pairings. That is especially true of something hugely picky like Utopia. I'm even less confident in saying anything like 'amp type x is amp type for Utopia' because of how hard it is to satisfy. Make sense? Thanks for watching and for commenting!
@blejzerosamigos6115
@blejzerosamigos6115 Жыл бұрын
@@wavetheorysound yes that's fair. Cheers.
@mindbendernine
@mindbendernine 28 күн бұрын
*cough* Headband Failure *cough*
@mtocful
@mtocful Жыл бұрын
how to explain hard hitting that ain't showing on FR?
@sjqideez6626
@sjqideez6626 Жыл бұрын
Frequency response graphs for headphones & IEMs only tell you part of a story. Definitely not the full one. There are more sonic attributes we cannot measure than the ones we can. Here are some qualities we cannot measure as there are no metrics for them: Engagement Sound stage width Timbre Sound stage depth Resolution Sound stage height Physicality Image size Separation Punch impact & slam Mid range body Airiness Bass texture Musicality Sub bass rumble Vocal realism Layering Decay Cohesion Attack Pitch definition Clarity Tonal density Accuracy (this depends if you’re a musician or singer) Etc.
@JohnKaess
@JohnKaess Жыл бұрын
If you did not already own the Utopia OG, would you get that or the 2022 Utopia?
@wavetheorysound
@wavetheorysound Жыл бұрын
I'll add one more layer of complexity to your question: how much money do I have at the time? In my '22 review I state the 22 is better and I had a slight preference for it overall. If cost were no object I'd likely take 22. But for me since cost is an object I went for the OG. And honestly I have no regrets.
@JohnKaess
@JohnKaess Жыл бұрын
@@wavetheorysound Thanks! I just recently watched your comparison between the OG and 2022 Utopias. I own the Focal Clear OG and agree that the MG just did not improved it. It's good to see they didn't falter with the new Utopia. I can't afford either of the Utopias right now, but if i'm going to have an unaffordable wish list, then i think i'm putting the 2022 Utopia on it.
@nonchalantd
@nonchalantd Жыл бұрын
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