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What Goes Into a Great Fighting Game Roster?

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HTS2000ify

HTS2000ify

Күн бұрын

For this video, I just wanted to talk about the parts that I think make a great roster for a fighting game.
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@MatiasMontemayor
@MatiasMontemayor 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, I actually learned something today. Great job
@Luca-sl7tb
@Luca-sl7tb 5 жыл бұрын
Not knowing Jedah, the final boss from the last Darkstalkers game? He was easily the best thing to come out of that mess that was MvC:I!
@HTS2000ify
@HTS2000ify 5 жыл бұрын
I never played Darkstalkers. I don't know what to tell ya.
@Luca-sl7tb
@Luca-sl7tb 5 жыл бұрын
@@HTS2000ify You're missing out! The Darkstalkers games are a classic, you should try them if you ever have the chance.
@HTS2000ify
@HTS2000ify 5 жыл бұрын
@@Luca-sl7tb I'd love to, I just don't think I have a platform to play any of the games on.
@Luca-sl7tb
@Luca-sl7tb 5 жыл бұрын
@@HTS2000ify The arcade games should be fairly easy to emulate on PC, either that or there's a collection on PS3/Xbox360 that collected a bunch of them.
@TheGameforestguy
@TheGameforestguy 3 жыл бұрын
Man, lemme tell you, wildcard characters are ESPECIALLY important for crossover games. I wouldn't be nearly as much of a nerd for Nintendo and Weekly Shonen Jump if SSBB and Jump Ultimate Stars didn't have rosters with characters that made me go "who?" and got me browsing wikis for hours on end. On that note, Jump Force's roster is awful in the same way MVCI's is. Aside from the massive presence of painfully obvious choices there's only really Dai, whose source manga is getting a brand new anime adaptation AND a video game, and Ryo, whose manga is one of WSJ top sellers (by like, a lot). Not to mention the fact that the only character that isn't from a full-on battle manga is Yugi, because gag, romcom and sports aren't real genres, I guess (not even Gintama? Come on).
@Bladebrent
@Bladebrent 3 жыл бұрын
I do have to disagree on the point of "sometimes letting someone sit out a game." Bringing back popular characters, even if they're in alot of installments, isnt really a huge problem, but I do agree you need to have some healthy variety of new characters to balance them out, and taking out some of the "stale" ones can help, its just difficult to say if its worth it. I dont think players are gonna "lose interest" just cause the same character keeps coming back; you just want to make sure you can bring back a variety of different characters so you can cover your bases. You never know who you might end up disappointing if you decide "eh, this character's been in too many games, lets give em a break" cause they've probably built up alot of people. I'm not really used to my characters being "Staples" but it is super nice that KOF15 has literally 6 characters revealed and I can already point out 3 I have alot of fun with (Shun'ei, K', and Leona). Usually, Im more towards Marrow, Sonson (she was new to MvC2 but was the daughter of another Capcom character btw), X-23, and similar characters of that caliber who didnt click with alot of other people. I do agree with the rest of the video though. You want to throw in wild-cards and not just add in whos expected. Its why I dont think DBFZ or Jump Force have good DLC's (I know Jump Force is a joke but I can still point at the roster and point out problems.) They have a similar problem to MvC:i where theres some executive saying "We need THESE characters cause THEY'RE Popular." Jump Force has no DLC characters that arent from an existing franchise in the base roster, and all of the shows getting characters are *HUGE* so theres a good chance you've covered those fanbases just fine. Medaka from Medaka box? Nah, we need that chick from Hunter x Hunter who can become super buff. Having popular characters isnt a problem, but only appealing to the people who you probably already have interested in the game really nets you nothing. Personally, I like picking characters that I know absolutely nothing about, and picking characters from more franchises often brings alot more variety to the roster than picking characters from the same ones over and over. Going to MvC:I, I dont think Winter Soldier or Black Widow appealed to ANYONE new. We had plenty of MCU representation, we had plenty of Military-personnel characters in the roster, and we even had non-super-powered-trickster-type-female character and Military-guy-with-metal-arm-who-throws-grenades. If you played MvC:I for gameplay, then you certainly had someone already if you're in that deep, and if you liked how they looked, you already had people who appealed to you. Veeeeery few people are gonna say "Wow, Winter Soldier. I'm getting this game just for him." Alot of what im saying applies mostly to fighting games from existing franchises picking out characters, but in games like that, I like looking at the roster and going "I dont know who that is. I want to try them out." This is why I dislike Jump Force and MvC:i's roster decisions cause its clearly just "the chart says they're marketable." DBFZ has a ton of Goku's, two characters from a movie that was barely out before their announcement, and even Jiren isnt really that popular but he's the villain of that arc of super so he's more marketable. Dengeki Bunko is another example where everyone is either one of the companies most popular characters (even if they dont know how to fight like Taiga or Kirino), or characters from shows airing at that time (like Strike the Blood or Heavy Object). It would've been cool to see some light novel characters be playable instead of assist only. Also I dont think you knew Dragon Ball Z very well if you think some of those characters are "Wild cards." Bardock, Broly (DBZ), and Videl is way more popular and expected than Chi-chi or Raditz, believe it or not. Characters like Nappa are more like Wild cards rather than anything.
@nicoloenricorimoldi7425
@nicoloenricorimoldi7425 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the MK Chaotic character select screen as the thumbnail I knew I had to click on this.
@user-mj4gj6pj3i
@user-mj4gj6pj3i 4 жыл бұрын
The best part of this video: he said marvel vs capcom infinite’s roster is trash. The worst part of this video: he disrespected amingo
@VaughnColeman
@VaughnColeman 5 жыл бұрын
Great job on this video man! I agree with a lot of what you said and even learned a lot of stuff about these series. It was very insightful. And I agree with what you said about Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance and Deception. The way they switched out so many classic characters and added so many new ones, for better or for worse, ended up bringing so much depth and diversity to those rosters and to the series as a whole. Even if most new characters were crappy, all of the cool new ones were worth it and I hope to see characters like Li Mei again soon in another Mortal Kombat game. And while I do agree with a lot of what you said about MKX and the character designs, I gotta say one thing I do disagree with you on is the Kombat Kids. I personally loved them and thought that they were a great and unique addition to the roster and really felt like they were bringing about the next generation of Mortal Kombat and trying something new. I really wish all 4 of them made the MK11 main roster so they could flesh them out a bit more and have them all interact with the younger versions of their parents/ family, but oh well. At least we have Cassie and Jacqui still.
@haasidi5543
@haasidi5543 3 жыл бұрын
Little question concerning you "guest characters" point. I understand why it's frustrating that half of the MK-X's DLCs were guests considering it's the 10th installment and many characters are left to be forgotten, or worse, mistreated. But what if that was the first game of the serie? Would you still dislike that many guest characters or would you be fine with it considering the franchise doesn't have any other characters to add?
@sethlast9024
@sethlast9024 3 жыл бұрын
"Johnny and Sonya feel bland and used, they definitely need a break cuz they've been in too many games" "Wolverine, the character who started the series and has been in EVERY SINGLE GAME wasn't even in MvC"
@xenolegenddbz2424
@xenolegenddbz2424 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Super Smash Bros Ultimate game. But I don't play it really often.
@daddysaso
@daddysaso 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Dragon Ball FighterZ’s roster barely has any surprising picks. Almost all the characters are fan favorites and were to be expected. Bardock and Broly were definitely not wildcards lol. Ginyu I’d say is a bit of a surprise though, he’s the kind of character with a rather unorthodox design, but they’ve certainly delivered.
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 2 жыл бұрын
Another point you could have made for MVCI is the relative lack of female characters. Where are Juri, Menat, Iris, Athena Cykes, and even mainstay Felicia? Heck, you could have even gone the echo fighter route with someone like Alia or Lilith. No comment on more girls for the Marvel side, though.
@trainaxphmr1024
@trainaxphmr1024 2 жыл бұрын
I like how progressively more Dunkey you get as the video goes on. Classic
@nolanhoffman4305
@nolanhoffman4305 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a devil from ghosts and goblins 9:52
@stevencisneros9306
@stevencisneros9306 3 жыл бұрын
There will always be a fighting game roster that balances both legacy characters, and some new ‘n original characters, while also mixing in with some guest characters to make things a little spicy!
@squidsona8509
@squidsona8509 5 жыл бұрын
i actually love the roster of sfv
@HTS2000ify
@HTS2000ify 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's really great post-DLC. I think the base game was lacking.
@sethxenofightersofficialx
@sethxenofightersofficialx 2 жыл бұрын
@@HTS2000ify Hi I'm Seth and I'm making a game called xenomon I'm open for advice on what characters should get more screen time or they should be on a different team
@emilianoplayz
@emilianoplayz Жыл бұрын
Am I considered an og? I just subbed lol
@martzlolxd
@martzlolxd 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but speaking of rosters, you should have talked more about Ultimate's. It's just undeniable that with that many fighters, is still a pretty balaced game and therefore has done something that non other fighting game has made jet.
@insert_clickbait
@insert_clickbait 3 жыл бұрын
Smash released a year after this video was made, so he basically couldn’t talk about it. It’s true tho that Ultimate has a great roster, and being one of my favorites in general. (Edit: Comment is wrong, vid came out a year after smash)
@insert_clickbait
@insert_clickbait 3 жыл бұрын
Nvm
@insert_clickbait
@insert_clickbait 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah idk why he didn’t talk about it more
@martzlolxd
@martzlolxd 3 жыл бұрын
@@insert_clickbait hahaha it's ok. Well I think by the time only Joker and Plant were out, but still. To be honest, the only game I play competitively is Ultimate, and the other games I have are Skullgirls and Rivals. But I enjoy this videos even if I don't play classic fighting games.
@circuitbreaker_644
@circuitbreaker_644 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao, Kefla and Roshi came later
@pzaypraxis95
@pzaypraxis95 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man don't underestimate my boy Bo
@MrBoingus
@MrBoingus 3 жыл бұрын
YOOOO! THEY GOT SEGA NEMESIS IN THIS??? god fucking DAMN nintendo, I've been holding out on buying the Wii-cast because you made James Bond bottom tier in melee, but you just might have pulled me back in....
@udhd2811
@udhd2811 3 ай бұрын
16:26 Roster Makes me unfathomably Angry
@mattsmith5253
@mattsmith5253 3 ай бұрын
I think killing Lui Kang was terrible idea.
@Goldenleyend
@Goldenleyend 3 жыл бұрын
I am offended by your ignorance about Ghosts n Goblins. Disliked, reported and doxxed.
@swaggermcjagger4266
@swaggermcjagger4266 3 жыл бұрын
MKX had a great roster I don’t care what anyone says, great variety of designs and gameplay styles
@calibvr
@calibvr 3 жыл бұрын
12:54 jonesy lmao
@shadicTPZ
@shadicTPZ 3 жыл бұрын
9:25 You could've said "M.O.D.O.K., a giant fucking head!"
@axolotteamshinyrocketdanie9366
@axolotteamshinyrocketdanie9366 3 жыл бұрын
How did you not mention guilty gear once
@destroyerofworlds4663
@destroyerofworlds4663 3 жыл бұрын
18:50 Me: Haha 18:51 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
3 жыл бұрын
No smash bros!?
@ChocyMilkMan
@ChocyMilkMan 3 жыл бұрын
This dude really said dragon ball fighter, z. It’s dragon ball fighters and or fighterz numbnutz. And the characters are picked off of relevance and popularity, not power. You would know if you knew dragon ball at all
@HTS2000ify
@HTS2000ify 3 жыл бұрын
No way, the legendary Collin Staub, the all time greatest Dragon Ball expert commented on my video. I'm honored bro.
@ChocyMilkMan
@ChocyMilkMan 3 жыл бұрын
@@HTS2000ify If being an expert means I say the name right then damn right
@HTS2000ify
@HTS2000ify 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChocyMilkMan I feel like you're the kind of person to be personally offended if someone pronounces Lunch/Launch differently than you do.
@insert_clickbait
@insert_clickbait 3 жыл бұрын
What happened here lol
@Coswalker27
@Coswalker27 3 жыл бұрын
Street fighter 5 was so bad even the pros hated at launch.
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