What goes into rebuilding an 11,000-hp Top Fuel dragster engine? | Redline Rebuilds Explained

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5 жыл бұрын

Fair warning: This is a long one. But there’s so much to talk about when you get to go hands-on with an 11,000-hp supercharged Hemi V-8 from Tony Schumacher’s U.S. Army Racing Top Fuel dragster! We suggest you grab a beverage and get comfortable while Hagerty’s Davin Reckow and Ben Woodworth sit down to discuss the finer points of this nitro-fueled monster, which was featured in our latest Redline Rebuild time-lapse video. We did our best to answer all those burning questions you had, but let us know in the comments if we missed anything.
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@cleettaurus8637
@cleettaurus8637 3 жыл бұрын
The beginning says it all. Just looking at the size and knowing what that engine is capable of absolutely send chills down my spine.
@matrixstuff3512
@matrixstuff3512 5 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these long in depth videos just as much as I love the time lapse, I'm glad you separate them into different videos
@LandonRoy-cv9rt
@LandonRoy-cv9rt 5 жыл бұрын
1 cylinder makes around 1400 HP, that puts it in context for ya
@mikebonnett7730
@mikebonnett7730 4 жыл бұрын
Landon Roy ya for each cylinder they loose going down the track is like loosing a whole nascar engine
@Rltvader1
@Rltvader1 4 жыл бұрын
@@mikebonnett7730 try 2 Nascar engines, they are about 750HP
@tiny180
@tiny180 4 жыл бұрын
And sorry not trying to be rude at all I really do need help on this so thanks if you have any suggestions on this I just know that dad has always wanted one so I'm trying
@theantsaretakingover
@theantsaretakingover 4 жыл бұрын
tiny 1 what?
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 4 жыл бұрын
Uh, and just like my current TL and Toyota engines, they do it for 300K + miles, without being opened once, right? There are other aspects that need to be put in context, as well. And compared to a turbine of the same size and weight, it produces relatively little HP, actually, and they do it for about 18,000 times as long. Pound for pound, compared to a rocket engine, it produces basically nothing. Just sayin'. ;-)
@TjeRod
@TjeRod 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the coolest, most informative videos ever seen on KZfaq. I love it. Just amazing. Many thanks for sharing!
@Flingpu13
@Flingpu13 5 жыл бұрын
I love this so much! I've been waiting so long for someone to do a complete in depth walk through of these nitro cars! Thank you so much for sharing!!!
@robertsilva5041
@robertsilva5041 4 жыл бұрын
Those 3 walls in the block was definitely a great idea when that block was made. It definitely increased the strength in the valley area where the lifters are. Very impressive... I pushed a 302 to it's max and that's where it failed. Love this motor!!!! Well designed
@billymanilli
@billymanilli 2 жыл бұрын
Ford 302 right? They're kinda famous for that. hehe
@bradjohnson9671
@bradjohnson9671 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how I missed this. Without a doubt the BEST ever seminar on how these beasts work. 1Hr 22min if time well spent. Hats off to all who made this possible. I've always liked DSR teams but even more so now. Thank you!
@Zodliness
@Zodliness 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the amazingly well presented and most detailed review. Greatly appreciate the education and entertainment!
@thesunexpress
@thesunexpress 5 жыл бұрын
I learned 100 new things thanks to this vid. I've fiddled with engines long enough that the tip of turning the block 90 degrees on the stand in order torque down the bolts hit me as the most epic "doh" moment ever! From this day forth, it shall be law in my garage to always rotate the block for torquing.
@dmeemd7787
@dmeemd7787 4 жыл бұрын
Another cool thing from when I worked on these is you don't need a number one main bearing at least not at the other big-name team, due to the blower belt tension and the back of this not in the middle of the engine. Lot of very smart people that's for damn sure! Also the amount of distortion the crankshaft has during a run, they were talking about possibly putting the crank trigger on the rear at one point, I wish I remember how many degrees it would twist the crank but it was a pretty ridiculous number that you wouldn't think would be possible
@darrenmcsorley3726
@darrenmcsorley3726 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome thanks for taking the time to educate us on step by step, and I mean step by step, on the setup and teardown of these engines. Im just a 427 chevy guy, but I see the basics are still the basics, but the technonoligy just keeps on advancing. Thank you so much.
@Duddie82
@Duddie82 4 жыл бұрын
My wheelchair has a titanium frame, and it cost over $6,000, I really love watching video like this with Big Horse Power!!! I am so happy I found this video, I learned a lot here. Very cool
@jamato2004
@jamato2004 5 жыл бұрын
Super super super.... i like the way you setup all this very complex item in a simple and nice understandable explanation.
@tenmillionvolts
@tenmillionvolts 4 жыл бұрын
Drag racers: "If only we could get more boost out of these blowers" Teflon seal company: "Hold my beer"
@MegaPoxie
@MegaPoxie 5 жыл бұрын
Good of Army Racing to show all this detailed build. Excellent info and gives me a whole new appreciation of these engines and their crews.
@ralphgrunz7377
@ralphgrunz7377 5 жыл бұрын
What an incredible video. I had no idea how complex the process is. I learned things that will overwhelm the guys when we watch NHRA again. Thank You.
@70Superbird
@70Superbird 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! I love going to the NHRA Top Fuel Drags at the Pacific Dragstrip in Kent. A guaranteed good time!
@billclark5943
@billclark5943 5 жыл бұрын
actually the mid plate is what holds the motor in the car and carries the bulk of the forces. It's bolted in. the front mounts saddle the frame rails with "hose clamps" but are mainly to hold the weight of the motor up in the front
@JM2015
@JM2015 4 жыл бұрын
They go very in detail and answer the questions that I really want to ask! Awesome video! Thanks and keep up!
@nj1255
@nj1255 2 жыл бұрын
Very good and in-depth video! My favorite automotive sport has always been F1, but at the same time I've always been more fascinated with top fuel drag racing. It's incredible to see the technology, money, ingenuity and blood, sweat and tears that go into this sport! It's crazy in every aspect!
@jamessprules6434
@jamessprules6434 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you gents for a truly entertaining and educational episode. As a Brit we do not see too much of this, but I learnt more about engines from this video than I ever have from books and I loved every minute of it. Fantastic stuff, look forward to much more!
@rextripod6242
@rextripod6242 5 жыл бұрын
@59.00. I have a great story to go with that... my rookie year of drag racing I asked Jim Dunn the same question ... why don’t we bolt the heads before we leave the track. That way we have more time in the morning instead of thrashing trying to make it to the lanes.... Jim said .. you want to bolt them on then you do it .. both sides... I jumped in and bolted on both heads then we finished the motor adjusted the valves and put the car away “ready” for the next day.. I went to bed that night tired but knew the car was ready to start in the morning.... we showed up at the track the next morning and got the car out and our pit area set up... Jim showed up walked in the trailer set his stuff down came back outside and walk right up to me and said...... CHANGING HEAD GASKETS....... then ... I understood.....lol
@MattyT_86
@MattyT_86 5 жыл бұрын
seems like a shitty thing for him to have done just to make a point, rather than say "well, actually we like to check the atmospheric pressure etc as close to running as possible so we can tune the compression with the head gaskets. If you put it on now, we might only end up taking it off again anyway tomorrow before we run"
@jamienichols6277
@jamienichols6277 5 жыл бұрын
I will never forget my first experience watching top fuel dragsters. I couldn't even see straight when they blasted by. Truly amazing!
@bcom9389
@bcom9389 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for providing such an insiders look on what it takes to build one of these engines. I knew some of the tricks and info you provided already but for the most part I didn't know any of it and it was an incredible learning experience. One thing that I wish you would have talked about is the expansion of the rear tires and how it effects the gear ratios while going down the track. Other than that, this was an extremely well done video. Thank y'all for whom put this together 👍
@400hpmustang
@400hpmustang 5 жыл бұрын
0 to 300 plus mph in under 4 seconds, plus or minus depending on track conditions. Great vid.
@bellyfullofmusic
@bellyfullofmusic 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best KZfaq videos I have watched so far.
@bigchungus-oj8zz
@bigchungus-oj8zz Ай бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@chrismoody1342
@chrismoody1342 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been privy to quite a few forms of racing; Sport cars, Indy cars, F1 cars, Shifter carts, NASCAR, Outlaw sprint cars, Supercross, Flat track, Hydroplanes, Drag boats, even Military air shows. Not many were as up close and personal as NHRA. Ten years ago it was a ritual for me and my brothers to make it to HPT twice a year. It is def an experience to witness the pure violence of these cars on track. For the many friends I’ve taken along; the first pass they witness just leaves them in stupefied awe. It one thing to see the launch, it’s a whole another thing to witness these cars at the top end. This video was great to really see the nitty gritty of the build. My only complaint would be, I wish they would have us not watching it over their shoulder, full screen shots instead with voice over.
@brandondepoy7889
@brandondepoy7889 4 жыл бұрын
I am going to the first race in INDY next week, Love NHRA, and Just want to tell you two, you did a great job on this video and explaining things in finite detail.. Keep on keeping on!
@burgerbirger2221
@burgerbirger2221 5 жыл бұрын
70K for 11.000 hp. Thats $6.36/hp. Suddenly my lawn mower motor is way more expensive.😁
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 5 жыл бұрын
Your lawnmower is good for more that 5 or 10 runs, though.
@burgerbirger2221
@burgerbirger2221 5 жыл бұрын
@@devilsoffspring5519 You haven't seen my lawn mower😁
@SANDSCORCHER
@SANDSCORCHER 5 жыл бұрын
😆👍🏻
@thecamperDK
@thecamperDK 5 жыл бұрын
@@devilsoffspring5519 You haven't seen my lawn
@russellnotestine6436
@russellnotestine6436 5 жыл бұрын
A top fuel dragster costs an estimated $1,000 per second to operate, roughly $4,000 per mile. So yea, the mower is a MUCH better value
@haydendewey5624
@haydendewey5624 4 жыл бұрын
8:43 nothing special or anything to click on this is just me marking where I left off
@chuckhoward3626
@chuckhoward3626 5 жыл бұрын
O2 Cool, Top Fuel! Great vid, and a big thanks to the folks at DPR for letting you all have the opportunity to bring this to us.
@icicicles
@icicicles 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was really informative, thx a million for taking your time and being descriptive! The clean video without all the foul language is a breath of fresh air too---Thx again!
@sojukawa8072
@sojukawa8072 5 жыл бұрын
finally, there's video that answers my question about the top fuel engine. i'm enlightened!
@Hagerty
@Hagerty 5 жыл бұрын
Happy to help! Thanks for being a fan.
@richardlewis4681
@richardlewis4681 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hagerty 9
@ryanmorgan2603
@ryanmorgan2603 3 жыл бұрын
Quit whining you sissy sissy la la's!! Just support your people!!
@jerome8469
@jerome8469 5 жыл бұрын
WOW what a Great Vid , That was very interesting to see the Behind the scenes of of 11,.000 HP engine WOW !! Thank s
@petergiles447
@petergiles447 4 жыл бұрын
excellent video, many thanks. ive watched them be rebuilt so many times at the track, but this was much more in depth and explained a lot. very educational.
@chrisrancat2808
@chrisrancat2808 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video. My uncle was it NHRA official back in the day and I like how you said power is learned through explosions of parts or something to that effect. My late uncle always used to say the rules were (in NHRA) written in blood. The human difficulty of surviving a run down the track with that kind of power I guess you could say. Intense.
@janschneidereit3144
@janschneidereit3144 5 жыл бұрын
Man this was the best hour and a half i ever spend on youtube. Thanks für making this pornographic piece of art
@Baard2000
@Baard2000 3 жыл бұрын
Better then pornhub , youjizz etc!!!!!!!!!!
@TheTommer777
@TheTommer777 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Got earraped though using headphones, between the coughing and sudden jumpcuts to racing cars :S
@sbulla65
@sbulla65 5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this, well done and Congratulations on the win with the rebuild. Awesome.
@golfhax
@golfhax 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video. i learned more about engines on this video than i have my entire life. top fuel dragsters are awesome machines man.
@johnd9357
@johnd9357 5 жыл бұрын
He says that nitro actually has more energy than race fuel. That's not correct at all. Nitromethane has LESS energy density than even regular old pump gasoline. The reason nitro is used is because it has a lower stoich allowing MORE fuel to be burned for the SAME amount of air pumped in. More fuel = more power output. Nitro simply burns better with less air because it has an oxygen component in the fuel itself. It absolutely doesn't have MORE energy density than gasoline however.
@JoeSolo814
@JoeSolo814 5 жыл бұрын
Great point! Nitromethane is definetly the #1 misunderstood fuels to anyone who never actually tuned or ran a Fuel engine. To this day it's still Voodoo to many people. Guy's don't realize it makes it's own atmosphere, and can NOT be lit with a match. It needs the compression, AF ratio, and ignition timing to light that flame!! Nothing on this planet like it!!
5 жыл бұрын
Joe Soliwoda IV Voodoo?...its just chemistry
@laneeric
@laneeric 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how knowledgeable these two are about nitro engines, but that opening description of the teardown procedure was cringeworthy. They had no clue how to describe the injector or the blower assembly, no clue about what the crewman was doing measuring the rod (he's checking for stretch) etc. If companies like Pennzoil sponsor these things, at least use experts.
@dougfranker2755
@dougfranker2755 5 жыл бұрын
I caught myself yelling at my phone when he said that, but I watched the whole thing because there isn't much videos out there getting in depth with top fuel, very cool but I would love to hear proper terminology.
@nedern
@nedern 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah something like 4 times less energy, but 8 times as much can be burned.
@1NRG24Seven
@1NRG24Seven 5 жыл бұрын
Did I miss your run times on this build? Was waiting for that most important piece of information. I was at Portland International Raceway years ago when Big Daddy Don Garletts set a new world record in the quarter mile at 4.3 seconds I believe it was at just over 300 miles per hour. Now that was back around 1975 and why I was interested in the times here as a comparison 43 years later, one would think the technology in engine rebuilds have advanced quite a bit since then and reflected in the speed and time numbers, bottom line. I remember back then being blown away at that record setting day for Don, and still can not imagine 300 miles per hour within a quarter mile, it is both amazing and exiting for even back then. Thanx for the video, Always was curious at what went into one of these builds and to see how it was all done for one of these monster engines, well worth the time to watch.
@dennisdunton6530
@dennisdunton6530 5 жыл бұрын
Eddie Hill...At the 1987 Chief Auto Parts Nationals, where he was runner-up, Eddie Hill set an NHRA record of 285.98 mph On April 9, 1988, he set the first four second elapsed time (4.990 seconds) at the National Hot Rod Association (NHRA) Texas FallNationals in Ennis, TX. Hill made the run on only seven cylinders Kenny Bernstein....In 1990, following a change in NHRA rules, Bernstein began to drive in the Top Fuel Dragster class. Two years later, Bernstein became the first driver in any class to exceed 300 MPH in competition, Don Garlits....Garlits was the first drag racer to officially surpass the 170, 180, 200, 240, 250, and 270 miles per hour marks in the quarter mile; he was also the first to top 200 mph in the 1/8 mile. His last qualifying race was in May 2003 at the NHRA POWERade Drag Racing Series, 23rd annual Summit Racing Equipment NHRA Southern Nationals presented by Pontiac in Atlanta, Georgia. At the age of 71 years, 5 months and 19 days he qualified 16th, setting a personal best speed in the quarter mile with a time of 4.788 seconds at 319.98 mph. Garlits had reached 323.04 earlier in the year at the 2003 Gatornationals. Mr. Garlits lost in first round competition with his Summit Racing-Mono Winged Dragster, clocking in with a 0.064 reaction time, a personal best 4.737 elapsed time, and 307.44 mph
@robertfuller9451
@robertfuller9451 5 жыл бұрын
Kenny Bernstein was the first to go 300 mph at the 1992 Gatornationals. Couldn't have been 300 in 1975...
@Over_The_Top-1320
@Over_The_Top-1320 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t not comment…. But,…. Foggy memories sir… 4.3sec E.T. had just been achieved the year prior to NHRA reducing the track length that both (AA/TF -Top Fuel Dragsters & Fuel & AA/FC-Top Fuel Funny Car) to 1,000 ft. From 1320 ft.
@inactive67
@inactive67 3 жыл бұрын
I was surprised at the reuse rate of parts never thought more than an old shop teacher saying yup they sell these for a couple of bucks at every race to use as ash trays (Inverted pistons). Lots of good information on this video thanks for sharing.
@glenwestlund4961
@glenwestlund4961 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video guys. I am tuning my brain for podcasts. Very informative and kept all my attention to catch any little piece of knowledge not registered in my noggin. Working with a amateur T/F Dragsters teams. And you got me on a note that i thought you may not informed for the 1, 000 HP.
@SteveP-vm1uc
@SteveP-vm1uc 5 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you could cover the rest of the drive line as well... Great video!!!!!!
@Paulster2
@Paulster2 5 жыл бұрын
Heh ... Not to nitpick, but at 38 minutes in, you're describing how the blower works in reverse. The air doesn't flow straight down and get compressed, but rather around the outside of the lobes. It's kind of counter intuitive. Like I said, a nitpick, but thought I'd throw it out there (I'm sure someone else has pointed this out as well). Lots of great info as this is way too cool!
@Rocksaplenty
@Rocksaplenty 5 жыл бұрын
this was very amiably presented, well said.
@orficaldari3524
@orficaldari3524 5 жыл бұрын
Well depends if its a roots or a twin screw
@231mac
@231mac 5 жыл бұрын
OrfiCaldaRi True, but clearly Roots-type are being discussed here.
@DirtRoadie
@DirtRoadie 5 жыл бұрын
His comment at 1:07:53 is a little strange too. What is so baffling about blower speed being geared to be a bit faster or slower? It's just a pump.
@231mac
@231mac 5 жыл бұрын
DR - Blower speed dictates how much air will be pumped into the engine, relative to engine RPM. Obviously, the more air pumped in allows more fuel to be added, equalling more power... sometimes. If the air is 'bad', meaning high temps and humidity, you can actually make MORE power by slowing down the blower speed.
@michelleharris24
@michelleharris24 4 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video!! :) I’ve wanted to see a Top Fuel engine tear down and rebuild for the longest time! Thank you very much for this highly educational video!! :)
@dmeemd7787
@dmeemd7787 4 жыл бұрын
At John Force Racing (and these are basically the same) the funny cars have an external oil tank where the dragsters keep it in the pan below (they have different oil volumes as well which is cool since it's the same engine) even though it still has an external pump. A lot of people say one is dry-sump one is wet-sump... but like he says here, you have an external gear pump so not exactly, lol -- so very cool that he got to experience this and properly go through everything :-) Also rad it has as many views as it does, I wish I had more though! This is great stuff, love it!
@jrdeckard3317
@jrdeckard3317 3 жыл бұрын
I was at Martin four years ago when Dom Lagana ran 338mph. I'll never forget that feeling when the speed was posted. The crowd went insane. It was a magical moment, frozen forever in time.
@Sarruji
@Sarruji 5 жыл бұрын
I work with F-15s, 220, 229, 110, and 135 engines. This engine beats them all. I am in love.
@slowpoke96Z28
@slowpoke96Z28 2 жыл бұрын
How many pounds of thrust do those motors make?
@redwingdetroit9671
@redwingdetroit9671 5 жыл бұрын
Well there goes my knowledge of engine basics! Outstanding coverage. Thanks guys.
@kenvoigt3636
@kenvoigt3636 5 жыл бұрын
In 1957 as a teen I built up a flathead V-8 for a little hot rod I made out of a 1929 Inernational truck, I had to get books and learn welding and engine work on my own and i enjoyed every minute of it, I also had a business doing this before I was out of highschool.
@OrianIglesias
@OrianIglesias 5 жыл бұрын
Great in-depth conversation. Thanks!
@Patriot_Drone_Services
@Patriot_Drone_Services 5 жыл бұрын
“At the end of the day, phenomenal”..... good video, very informative.
@BigWood3131
@BigWood3131 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a Outstanding video
@TangoOne
@TangoOne 5 жыл бұрын
Love seeing that they hand lap the valves. It's the way I still do it.
@KC_Smooth
@KC_Smooth 3 жыл бұрын
This gentleman explains things so eloquently. He made it easy to understand for engine dummies like myself!
@NitroModelsAndComics
@NitroModelsAndComics 5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyable. Quite a few things I didn't know.
@dankoneon
@dankoneon 5 жыл бұрын
The bolts that go into the side are called buttress bolts. Great video!
@Sandler23
@Sandler23 4 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how powerful these engines are. Amazing!
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 4 жыл бұрын
Love that rag around the crank hack. Definitely gonna steal that one. I'm sure I will get a ton of responses from people who are smart enough to have already known that but I have never seen it. I grew up doing homework at dad's tool box in the Mitsubishi service dept. Followed in his footsteps and spent 17 years in the biz myself and I guess the fact we probably did seven 4 cylinders and two V6 motors to each V8 and very few big blocks so our cranks were much lighter.
@bradjohnson9671
@bradjohnson9671 5 жыл бұрын
Someone may have already mentioned this but at 33:51, you state the tubing is for oil, I think you are mistaken, pretty sure they are fuel lines for more nozzles in the intake valve tracts. At 6:08 you can see the fuel lines coming from the metering valve, you can also see the smaller lines going into the intake manifold runner. Great shots in this video, well done! This is a great channel, nice work. Yes, I hit the subscribe button... :)
@xPr1m3
@xPr1m3 5 жыл бұрын
Was going to post the same, but you beat me to it. Would be a weird place to inject oil.
@xPr1m3
@xPr1m3 5 жыл бұрын
@@dirtmonkey92 At 6:08 you can see the fittings for the rail inside the head connect to the rest of the fuel system (the fuel lines are lined up on both heads, but not connected). That would mean the rail inside the head, and all the small tubes that connect to it, are for fuel.
@nhraguy532
@nhraguy532 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those are the lines for the down nozzles.
@Over_The_Top-1320
@Over_The_Top-1320 3 жыл бұрын
They are for fuel delivery. These are the Cylinder head down nozzles, one constantly sprays fuel while the mechanically driven gear pump is on/open. Each sprays directly at the top/back side of the intake valve internal the intake runner of the head. Both nozzles have adjustable orifice jets threaded between the Stainless lines and the brass down nozzles bodies. One of the each pair is considered to be the idle circuit due to it constantly spraying or on. The second of each pair has a check ball with adjustable spring rates to prevent it from spraying at idle ONLY and possibly “putting the cylinder out” which potentially increases the possibility of hydraulically locking a cylinder and the resulting explosion. The check ball equipped nozzle unseats instantly once OFF IDLE via fuel pressure increasing relative to RPM increase of the mechanically driven fuel pump. This is repeated for each cylinder @ each intake runner of the intake manifold. + 4 nozzles spraying directly into the top of the supercharger (which helps cool its rotating internals, as well as fueling all 8 cylinders + 6 more nozzles in the carbon fiber injector atop the super charger (again to cool and fuel) This is how you squeeze 100 Gallons Per Minute of NitroMethane into 500 C.I. Of Hemi !!!
@av8tore71
@av8tore71 5 жыл бұрын
I used to work at Woodward Governor in Love Park, IL running Mazak Vertical Machines and I would get a chunk of block aluminum and make Fuel Control systems for Rolls Royce, GE, Pratt & Whitney jet engines. It's amazing what CNC's can do.....I mean right down. To the .0001 of an inch with sharp cutting tools The Fuel Controller's are basically carburetor's for jet engines for say even though they are not carburetor's if you know what I mean.
@stephenmwyatt2
@stephenmwyatt2 5 жыл бұрын
no, not one ten, that is silly. aluminum fucks around more than that at room temp (the part continuously expands and contracts)
@av8tore71
@av8tore71 5 жыл бұрын
@@stephenmwyatt2 there you go, you listen to Scotty Kilmer!! Now I know why you think you know all there is about machining aluminum! That guy is a wack job
@stephenmwyatt2
@stephenmwyatt2 5 жыл бұрын
if you are a machinist, or worse, please remember you are really stupid compared to most people @@av8tore71
@stevedoe1630
@stevedoe1630 5 жыл бұрын
@Av8tore71 I am more than familiar with Woodward asynchronous governors for marine application (generators, feed pump). It’s kind of a household name for a marine engineer.
@RossL1946
@RossL1946 3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenmwyatt2 That's a really funny comment, I'm laughing my fat, greasy ass off!! Ha ha!
@Nocturnal2010
@Nocturnal2010 3 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of his excitement explaining the win his engine got.
@manstersr
@manstersr 5 жыл бұрын
That was a great show, the only other things I wish you had shown is how they start the car on gasoline or alcohol (I believe is what they are doing) then switch it over to Nitro. It's so cool to hear the contrast when they flip the switch, it sounds like a regular engine until they switch it then it sounds like it gets really pissed off. The other is how they mount the engine in the frame with a few hose clamps, a friend that built the frames for those cars told me about that and how they don't really worry about clearances and tolerances in the engine too much, like you would a normal race or street engine, because it only has to run less than a minute or so. They basically throw it all together is what he said.
@Taylordrifts
@Taylordrifts 5 жыл бұрын
Not trying to be that guy, but wings on "imports" do serve a huge purpose in time attack and road racing situations. There are time attack cars putting down 1000's of pounds of downforce with countless hours spend engineering diffusers, wings, canards, etc. Regardless, great video. Kinda crazy how much is similar to your normal engine, and how much of the process is run of the mill for such an insane engine.
@kennethhedden1846
@kennethhedden1846 3 жыл бұрын
My bedcover and 5000 lbs give me plenty downfoce.
@Arykperry
@Arykperry 3 жыл бұрын
Okay Taylor you keep tellin ur self that and one day even you might believe it !!!! LMFAO
@pyroarchy
@pyroarchy 3 жыл бұрын
thats IF they can go fast enough for it to apply downforce...if not then its just weight and drag ;-p
@HighAway
@HighAway 3 жыл бұрын
that is just only for stupid cosmetic. that's it.
@perryprupp4356
@perryprupp4356 3 жыл бұрын
@@HighAway not on time attack cars...
@SonOfTamriel
@SonOfTamriel 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video, thanks!
@davesracingchannel9261
@davesracingchannel9261 5 жыл бұрын
Would you please give my racing channel a Subscribe
@burbt6069
@burbt6069 3 жыл бұрын
I would love one of those blower veins on my desk! This is a must watch video for petrol heads! Lots of great info on building a winning engine. Well done!,
@johnm1843
@johnm1843 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! What a great documentary, thanks guys ! Great job!
@JerseyMikeP
@JerseyMikeP 5 жыл бұрын
@ 33:48, Those tubes aren't "Oil passages". Top fuel heads have additional Mechanical fuel injectors in the heads. You can tell this by the fact that the are threaded in to the Intake runner....Not going to spray oil into the runners of a 4 cycle. engine.
@michaelfritsche4023
@michaelfritsche4023 5 жыл бұрын
Intake Valve Nozzles. 2 per Valve. Entire Fule system is driving off the 4 Stage pump. 1 line feeds the Blower Injectors and 1 Line splits and feeds the heads. Regulated by Jets in each injector. Not all cylinders get equal fuel because that's how these things are. For instance we ran 6 different compressions on JRs Top Fuel. So that was 6 different fuel volumes.
@ashdaw83
@ashdaw83 5 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. Thank you! Could you do one on the clutch and the timing system without revealing the tuning secrets?
@altair7001
@altair7001 5 жыл бұрын
+1 I too I would like to see an extensive explanation of the workings and sequenced operation of the clutch fingers, because this is the second most important part of the car.
@hanslowes5294
@hanslowes5294 4 жыл бұрын
there are no timing secrets they advance the timing to 30 something degrees then down track it retards the timing to 20 something degrees because the spark plugs break causing dieseling affect which means they dont fire also why they run two spark plugs on each cylinder
@Youngie761
@Youngie761 5 жыл бұрын
I am just a car enthusiast. Rarely ever worked on an engine. But that part about doing the head gaskets at the last minute before runnin' the car out on the track was fascinating.
@jamesedmond3351
@jamesedmond3351 5 жыл бұрын
Barometric pressure, track temp, air temp, humidity.
@ericmcmanus5179
@ericmcmanus5179 5 ай бұрын
The most fascinating thing about these engines to me is the copper head gaskets. They tune the engines compression ratio based off environmental factors like temperature and humidity to determine which thickness of head gasket to use to achieve the required compression. Amazing stuff.
@MrAgustincuenca
@MrAgustincuenca 5 жыл бұрын
imagine doing this but on a F1 engine....full blurred video and "well this is a [beep] [beep] [beep] piston with a [beep][beep][beep] diameter and then the [beep][beep] rod with the [beep][beep]"....damn you cheating F1 Teams!
@COALEDasICE
@COALEDasICE 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised this was allowed
@laneeric
@laneeric 5 жыл бұрын
WTH?! So an F1 team has spent millions designing critical hundredths of a second advantages and you call that cheating? Guess you don't understand racing of any kind.
@COALEDasICE
@COALEDasICE 5 жыл бұрын
@@laneeric f1 teams bend rules aka cheat to gain advantages
@MrAgustincuenca
@MrAgustincuenca 5 жыл бұрын
relax friend, I was joking about it...but I'm pretty sure all team have a couple of dirty little secrets....
@laneeric
@laneeric 5 жыл бұрын
And? that's auto racing. If your team doesn't push the rules to the limit, another team will. Leaving you in last place.
@charlesvan13
@charlesvan13 5 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, nitromethane has 1/4 the energy as gasoline. But because it has a built in oxidizer for the combustion, one can burn 8 times as much as gas. Thus it can make about twice the power.
@michaelfritsche4023
@michaelfritsche4023 5 жыл бұрын
Timing can be radically advanced. Longer Burn Time. Our Baseline Timing was set at 65° of Advice. Yes Sixtyfive!
@bigchungus-oj8zz
@bigchungus-oj8zz Ай бұрын
Thank you guys for a wonderful perspective in what goes on in the pits/shops with the top fueler engine and the insanely cool numbers that surround it. Loved your laid back and very modest delivery throughout the video. You guys complement each others styles into a top notch program. Love to see more. Sub’d. Peace out..:)
@kenreeve6549
@kenreeve6549 5 жыл бұрын
What a great insight in to the "top engine" our fantastic sport ,thanks guys 10/10
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 5 жыл бұрын
I use to work in NASCAR and the owner put his friends drag motor on the dyno. It destroyed it. Had to rebuild the dyno. At 1500 hp it quit.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 3 жыл бұрын
Now I want to see a "$$Dyno fails$$" compilation of nitro motors destroying engine dynos. 😆
@mansense6212
@mansense6212 5 жыл бұрын
This is like some guy snuck out some video footage from the plant and is now talking about it while watching it with a friend.
@sofalugger
@sofalugger 4 жыл бұрын
Truly Amazing!! 11000 HP. . Can remember back in late 70`s early 80`s 2000+ Ish HP??? Top 5second runs were special . . Love watching Dom Lagana (on ere) 4.48 secs at 338+ MPH!!! and QUARTER MILE!!! Mind Blowing stuff. .
@user-tf1wo5wu4f
@user-tf1wo5wu4f 6 ай бұрын
That’s so impressive that the formula has gotten to where it’s as simple as it is, and actually surprisingly cheap considering the conditions, and in a way that isn’t as secretive tech as some other racing. The whole process is just super impressive!
@07canuck
@07canuck 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of info here, well done!
@AkumaFab
@AkumaFab 5 жыл бұрын
07canuck true but there is a lot of incorrect info in this video as well.
@ashqelon7267
@ashqelon7267 5 жыл бұрын
It's not "what goes into" 11000 horsepower Top Fuel motor but what ""comes out of"". Half the crankshaft, #3-4 piston, etc..
@castirondude
@castirondude 4 жыл бұрын
Those engines are scary, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near them when they run...
@nitroperformanceguy
@nitroperformanceguy 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. This is so awesomely thorough.
@kenmohler4081
@kenmohler4081 4 жыл бұрын
Really wonderful narration and explanation. Felt like I was sitting with friends.
@thekoneill8
@thekoneill8 4 жыл бұрын
Ken Mohler Yepper Drink a beer and pick his brain for my 406sbc
@campauxs8139
@campauxs8139 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome enjoyed the hell out of the video!!!
@sunnysacto
@sunnysacto 5 жыл бұрын
"We're trying to spin the world" 1:33:15
@mustangrosen
@mustangrosen 5 жыл бұрын
Oh what a great documentation with nice guys talking about a wonderworld of fuel and bunch of billeted dreams... I watched this twice - because it so much to see. And i like the cool and informational style of doing it, not like these silly tv- shows out there . what a luck to find you and this movie! ....the engines i design biuld by myself are much more smaller, but they got a othe r destination. And beside i ride a Ford302 slightly modified for smooth run and good on gas as Daily driver - in summer Great video! Greetings from Germany!
@bobbeazley2502
@bobbeazley2502 5 жыл бұрын
Great detail video. At the 33:55 minute mark. That a fuel rail feeding the 2 nozzle per intake port. Plus great info on what type of oil is used in the blower gears. 2 stoke oil! A great reason why too.
@michaelfritsche4023
@michaelfritsche4023 5 жыл бұрын
We ran BellRay Motorcycle Fork oil in our Blower Cases. That was 20 years ago.
@bobbeazley2502
@bobbeazley2502 Жыл бұрын
Awesome in detail video. It would awesome to that video followed up with the detail workings of the clutch.
@kadenwatt2033
@kadenwatt2033 5 жыл бұрын
Will you guys ever do an explanation video on the hemi you rebuilt a while ago? What about a mazda rotary?
@MyLonewolf25
@MyLonewolf25 5 жыл бұрын
Man I’d love to get my hands on one of those blocks to build myself
@helvehammer7846
@helvehammer7846 5 жыл бұрын
with no water jackets??? No Thanks - that's just a toy.
@tylercrawford4534
@tylercrawford4534 5 жыл бұрын
Go sift through insidetopalcohol or a Facebook group...used parts are pennies on the dollar of new. They'll last forever if you're only making 1,500-2,000HP
@michaelfritsche4023
@michaelfritsche4023 5 жыл бұрын
Get a repaired one. Teams only repair them x amount of times. Windowed blocks from Rods Kicking out . Deck and Heads get Torched from Head Gaskets pushing out. After several runs Blocks get " Out of Tolerance" and can't be CNC'd back into "Critical Tolerance" anymore.
@markthemechanic1832
@markthemechanic1832 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing what was clearly an incredible experience.bonus for the result yeah baby!!
@jayreynolds3482
@jayreynolds3482 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done and enjoyable with a nice conclusion :)
@HuggyBearx64
@HuggyBearx64 5 жыл бұрын
Him: "Count to ten" Me: "1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8.." Video: *cuts*
@slowpoke96Z28
@slowpoke96Z28 2 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@markD5150
@markD5150 5 жыл бұрын
Nitro is used because it runs cooler has oxygen in it and burns slower relative to the amount injected vs it’s perspective counterpart gasoline. Nitro keeps the engine from pre igniting due to high compression and excessive boost and high charge temps “detonation” is what kills pistons and connecting rods due to the fuel air mixture igniting before piston hits top dead center. Ps By half way down the track the ends of the spark plugs are melted off and the engine is dieseling the rest of the way down the track. the only way to shut it off is to turn off the fuel supply.
@josephschaefer9163
@josephschaefer9163 4 жыл бұрын
Burned plugs happen like 2 percent of the time. They shut the fuel off so it doesn't hydrolock
@slowpoke96Z28
@slowpoke96Z28 Жыл бұрын
How do you feel coming back and reading what you posted??
@groomlake51
@groomlake51 5 жыл бұрын
38:40 the blower rotors mesh at the bottom the air is pulled on the side of the blower case . When sitting in the car the left rotor spins counter clockwise and the right one clockwise . They mesh at the center under the blower and air if forced down into the plenum
@chuckstith838
@chuckstith838 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing that could have been better is these guy drinking a beer while explaining it
@odysseas7705
@odysseas7705 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are gods. You should rebuild a hemi 440 though. Again GOOD JOB!!!
@odysseas7705
@odysseas7705 5 жыл бұрын
@@benjamingoodman2690 Hemi 440 m8 the 7,2 liters one
@benjamingoodman2690
@benjamingoodman2690 5 жыл бұрын
@@odysseas7705 I think you are slightly confused. They didn't make a 440 hemi, but mopar made a 426 hemi, which this 11,000 horsepower engine is based off. The 440 on the other hand, is a wedge based engine that was more torque related. The pistons and heads are very much different, and the 440 was made to 1978, where the hemi stopped in 1971.
@PredaFran
@PredaFran 5 жыл бұрын
Hemi 440s are not a thing
@danielbargas3377
@danielbargas3377 5 жыл бұрын
Just another guy that's just a rb
@LionWithTheLamb
@LionWithTheLamb 5 жыл бұрын
The 440 is in the B and RB (Raised Deck B) family of engines. The hemi is a seperate family. They did make a 426 Hemi and a 426 Wedge but they are not the same engine. Sort of like how a 351 windsor ford is not the same as a 351 Clevland ford.
@slammedsilvias6628
@slammedsilvias6628 5 жыл бұрын
Why do they change the firing order? I know it’s for power gains obviously but I’ve never seen anything explaining why it works and the other benefits. I’ve wondered this for a long time and was hoping I’d see it answered in this video. There’s hardly anything on KZfaq about top fuel engines. I hope you can shed some light on this question for me.
@jayer-su3hu
@jayer-su3hu 5 жыл бұрын
It comes from how the camshaft is configured.
@dougstermcclellan5105
@dougstermcclellan5105 5 жыл бұрын
Downforce balance, side-to-side.
@slammedsilvias6628
@slammedsilvias6628 5 жыл бұрын
Well yeah that’s the only way to change your firing order, but WHY DO THEY DO THAT?......downforce, hell yeah I would think that it gives it more power by changing that, that’s what I thought why they did it, that’s what’s up, thank you for answering that
@jayer-su3hu
@jayer-su3hu 5 жыл бұрын
@@slammedsilvias6628 they do it because it makes the engine run better, makes it more "happy" if you will. Builds more power
@nhraguy532
@nhraguy532 5 жыл бұрын
E 4/7 swap minimizes cylinders 5/7 fighting for air & fuel when they fire.
@sputnik16335
@sputnik16335 5 жыл бұрын
It's a typical Roots-style blower. A typical misconception is that the rotors rotate toward each other and the air is pulled down between the lobes of the rotors. The rotors actually rotate away from each other and the air is pulled to the outside in the voids between them and the housing.
@mauricejones3387
@mauricejones3387 3 жыл бұрын
The video actually was fairly short considering the quality of the content!! Incredible piece of work!!!
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