i just download and they saying that u shoud verify accnt than i am like 68gb for now i need korean number

This is very reminiscent of Lineage 2. Certain bosses would drop a specific epic item and would never let the other guilds get in to fight it. I think it took me about a year to finally get a Baium ring 🤔

I've played the beta and I'm fairly excited to play when the game releases in NA. I am a little curious about shot calling but I haven't found any guides or anything like that on it, do you have any tips or would be able to make even a short video on it if possible? I might be leading my guild on release and would appreciate any tips.

Alliance is more balanced now, would love to see you back = )

Can't wait for the Pax Dei pvp video!!!

players literally kill their own content, sad that developers have to hand hold so much to have pvp be fun

Miss you in the game Danneh! Aka Xcaliber in game. We had fun at that first siege! We moved to fonsine and unfortunately the same thing happened zerg zerg zergggg

True, true and true again. Been playing on Asota for over 3 months rn. Even when i am not really PvP player, we were ready for tax deliveries and for Castle siege as a small guild (single guild without alliance - around 20 players active at that time) and they just "abuse" the system. It was awful... Whats even worse, AGS give all those EU and NA zergs over hunders of keys to their Beta and we get 0 in our guild. We even was in top 20 in guilds, have few people who are in Beta sign up for over 6 or 7 months, been playing for months and we get nothing :D That much for AGS trying to watch whats happening in KR ... Still, have fun in your games and see you on your stream again! Cya, Akhedia

This is what happened in L2 too. People hate losing.. so they all join the side that starts winning and the winning side likes to win harder, so they let them. Its the biggest issue with OWpvp games.

Open PVP is always a number game.

Damn, literally like 3 days ago I was thinking about if I should get into T&L for global release and make a channel for it, so went to check your channel to see if you were still enjoying it but saw you didn't upload for a bit. It's a shame, looks like the game has a ton of potential.

Appreciate immediately getting to the point, respect

I wonder how much they can change anything anyway being just distributor of the license. Outside connectivity and server management, content wise they shouldn't have a say too much.

Hello @Danneh, you could chew on gold duping, furtnite duping, dungeon abusing, lags ("Caused by PG" :D :D :D :D , I still remember this trolling) in New World and play it for so long, but this T&L issue is the real reason to quit:) ? I did mention multiple times when I was in discord that T&L is very very close to Lineage2 and it is pretty much L3 with different mechanics. L2 Crest (ppl changing it in the middle of war/siege to confuse enemies), Clan Wars, Open PvP, Castle Seiges, Territory Wars , Massive alliances and so much more. Anyway I am sure we will see each other playing World Wide T&L release :) thanks for sharing!

I am just struggling to understand. The full game was released last year. And surely when you go to twitch there is people actively streaming the Korean version of the game. Now why then have a closed open bata test for the west. Where everything regarding the bata is kept in a hush hush. I mean it's not like we all can just go watch other people play the full game. So why the secret regarding the western release then.

I thought the game wasn't even out yet outside of Korea?

It is just stupid seeing so many HP/mana bars and so many efects at the same time. I don't understand why there must be so much of effects that player is unable to even see what is going on? Can anyone tell me why fighters and knights... need special effects??? Why not ONLY MAGE? It would make game normal and in a large sieges you could at least see what is going on...

Same thing is going to happen to global since PVP rewards you with premium currency, so there is a heavy incentive to form up and cheat the system. The thing about Lineage II for example that made mass pvp so enjoyable was you did it just to grief and get loot, that's it. NC Soft wants this game to have mass appeal but they designed systems in place that make it very niche and that is cannibalizing itself, and its going to get worse with Global since we don't go nearly as hard as Korea does when it comes to guild focused be on at X time everyday type of content. so eventually you will end up with a game where most of the guilds are dead and its just the top 1% controlling everything while the rest are just left as fodder.

Cant agree more they need hard limits and aliance should be just 4 guilds thats the whole point of aliance either its official or not. Also siege felt to me like there was way too many players, if only aliance (4guilds) can play vs other aliance, then that would feel way better and still have insane number of players fighting. I hope they make siege instanced, preregistered event where all aliances doesnt matter how strong or weak could participate and fight for a place on leaderboard for their share of reward and not just sweaty a holes.

Danneh come back, we miss you :) come back to eu beta

Downloading now, I'll be back.^^^

"Yes, i'm waiting for AOC and i've paid my fucking money" xD Haven't we all. Ngl, people meme on ashes all day long but i have not seen a more promising mmorpg in development right now. TnL was just another spoke in the wheel while we wait for A2

T&L's alliance system just feels like a lesser version of Eve's alliance system. And all the stuff you didn't like about alliances being able to block content, I love those aspects that are in Eve. Why be on the weaker side?

ill be playing

But is this not way we play MMOs? Else we can play more strict competitive games like Lol, CS etc

No other MMO provides any better World PVP that this game. its a blast. Other MMO's have Old bloated graphic engines.

they fixed zerging in everything but siege which is fine tbh and gonna continue to work on it should be fun on na even if it doesn't last forever.

Would love to see you on BDO the whole system is changing recently The PVP is very TL

I quit because it just stopped being fun for me. The end game was too repetative and just didnt feel good.

Maybe you should do the beta and feed all this back to Amazon you where proper hyping TL for months I wouldn't say the game is in a bad place it just needs some tweaking

Dam shame you not gonna be East. Hope you run the EU side Pirates!

Faction pvp is no solution in a game like t&l.

i think you will be good if you play albion online, they opening eu server this month (i think 23 april) might be a good chance for you to start there

It's one step above a mobile game. i expect it to go to mobile in 1-2 years.

Europe version is common you was playing Korean version

While i agree with you that the zerg is a problem in any mmo pvp game its for sure not devs fault vut our fault as a community. Devs are doing the right moves and trust me some servers u gonna get decent guild leaders and the game will be balanced and nice ans some other will be zerged. Maybe make caravan an instance pvp evebt for guild vs guild ? Ok u still gonna have the siege zergs but thats gonna be the politics pcp of the server i can leave with that, but everything else we sgould avoid the zerg

So its basically zergs from albion online but a korean game?

Thing is you're gated from the start. You just don't realize it until you've already wasted your time and for some people their money.

Thug rule always kills a game. I had fun when I played with you guys. I'm going to give NA a try. My ping will be a lot better. My big question is will Amazon help the game or hurt the game? I hope they do better than they did with Lost Ark

All I heard is Danneh dun destroyed yet another game 😂 😂😂😂😂 roll up, next contender ! ❤ Oh snap T&L said "come back in June" too 😅

How this game earn money? Is it P2W?

kinda saw this one coming. on the bright side, NW will be introducing some sort of new PvP mode in June. something to do with open world free for all zones. Scot lane has been hyping it up

Sounds like what happened in Warhammer Online years ago. The developers are 100% to blame for this. You have to design your game in such a way where it doesn't lend itself to this zergfest shitshow. People will always take the path of least resistance and game the system in their favor whenever possible.

This is 100% why PvP games fail. You have these massive zerg guilds, some guilds of which WOULD be competition for one another, instead form an alliance and just dominate the rest of the game. Then six months later, they're looking around and wondering why everybody has left the game. It's those types of players/guilds that totally lack self-awareness of the ill effects of that kind of gameplay. It makes the community poorer and weaker in every way imaginable. So when it comes to a game like that, a lot of times if it dies, you don't have to look much further than the community itself.

oh wow, the same happen (no surprises there) in shadowbane and asheron's call darktide pk server ( my favorate kind of pvp server a free for all pvp anywhere and anyplace), big guilds and alliances take over the server and the game is over. today, I still prefer GW2 WvW because to me it the most fair pvp even when your server had low population (so many enemies I level so fast and I don't have to go to far to see some action), also love roaming in WvW fo much fun fighting especially good pvpers. yeah it looks like I'm gonna do a wait and see on this game and see if the devs can fix these big problems. time will tell.

it's terrible. without breaking the NDA it's just bad. a pretty painting with no substance

I stopped playing 2 months ago because of all the content ( that I feel ) is gatekept. The only real content to progress your character is your 3 daily dungeons and 10 contracts. The contracts can be done in less than 10 minutes and the dungeons can be done with a good group in less then an hour as well. LITERALLY everything else gives absolutely pointless rewards that don't help towards progression at all , if anything it's laughable. Graphics are amazing, mechanics are cool, but that lack of content that you can grind for hours is really killer.

Couldn't agree more

give me global!!!

Didn’t even know the game was released yet. Gameplay ruined by human nature as always in MMOs. Glad I didn’t waste any time on this

The game was dead from the start, they needed to add autoplay, L2m had way bigger player base, the game is dead because is too grindy, Nobody want to play a second job

Skill issue tbh, get good

Well it is basically a PVE game, that has some PVP, for the minority that want it.

thx the game look great, ill play for a bit ... but won't invest in it... free game is a free game ! will move on after that ! :D

Imagine quitting a game you've invested hundreds of hours into over a pvp event that takes up less than 1% of your gameplay.

Man this game looks really cringe

That concept alone will kill the game

lol no way I’m giving this game a shot. Looks like I’d have more fun slamming my head against the desk.

Welcome to Korean mmos. like thats how these work. they are geared towards end game PvP if people dont like this they should play......World Of Warcraft perhaps? LMAO

Lets be honest, you just take a break for global release. Right now to play F2P game you need VPN what is already not F2P. Better to have some shot that pay for VPN in 2024 LOL how crazy is that. Freaking VPN mafia...

It’s coming to console real soon yikes 😂 dead on arrival globally

PvP ruins everything

Another shit BDO experience

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Its the same problem every time and no one recognizes it. Limited windows with additional rewards for the victors. Adding incentives for zergs and complaining about zergs is idiocy.