The drop in communication has been absolutely abysmal. If they aren’t in a clan, 65% of the time, they won’t talk, and a 10% chance it’s useless clutter noise or racial slurs. As a tanker, my guys and I are often going in blind because we have no idea what’s on the field, and where. It sucks

True, rarely do I get a good squad or even a commander. But scrolling through the players tonight it was a lot of brand new players, a decent amount of intermediate players around 30 to 50 rank, and not many vets. The casual C.O.D. players will leave soon and the new guys will learn. The vets aren't helping matters by being impatient and yelling at the guys learning. Not all vets do that, but I see it way more than the rare "follow me and I'll teach you."

This message has been approved by a guy who tried Hell let loose multiple times after being on Post Scriptum/Squad44 for years. Gotta say I couldn't get in to it and then saw the light in Squad44 again, this is where the future of ww2 milsims is at, not in hll unfortunately. I encounter people on the daily now sharing these resembling opinions.

Every once in a while I get a game that has some people talking, but the games that don’t are substantially higher. I remember when just about every game had people talking but now if I play like 5 games maybe 2 have people talking. Even switched servers several times to see if it was just the server I was playing on, but it seems like a game wide issue.

REMEMBER the sound bug is still in the game!!! Some of the new people want to play learn and help but because vivox can't do anything right the voip breaks.

This game was never as good as SQUAD in terms of communication, discipline, certain mechanics and so on...For example in order to place rally point in squad (OP in HLL) you as a squad leader need to be surrounded by 3 of your squadmates and in order to place a FOB in squad (GARRISON in HLL) you as a squad leader need to have logistic vehicle on your position, minimum of 500 construction supplies (that can only be brought in by truck or helicopter, no such thing as supply drop from sky every 20 sec or support role droping it) and before you can place the FOB you need to place down the radio and have one squadmate near you + supplying the front constantly during the match is huge thing, with construction and ammo brought by trucks or helicopters and stored inside the FOBs so players can rearm, vehicles can rearm-repair and so you can keep the momentum in building the FOBs deeper inside the territory.

I had one game with a squad that communicated, where the leader gave orders. We carried the team in defending and attacking, but it was not enough. Most players are useless, there are no roles or objectives played.

I agree with you, the drop off in mic usage has been pretty sad. Dumped a ton of hours into the game recently after a little layoff and it's one of the glaring things I noticed. Still, fun games with great communication do exist just not very frequent

I wrent back to HLL after about a three months break and while seeing some of the effects you note but have also had some excellent games and by persisting in talking to people has the effect of opening people up to behaving properly

I miss the coordinated attacks and strategy. I can only play on servers like garrisons and whisky and other lvl based servers to have a good experience

For me, it was the fact that people wouldn't stop complaining over the coms. I love running tank crews and I can't properly provide targets and commands to my gunner and driver. It got so bad that I just switched over to the gunner seat and gave up command to someone else. I don't like hogging the gunner seat because that's the funnest seat in a tank. But I can't drive well because of the extremely awkward controls

I remember buying the game back in December to play with some friends and from the outset I could instantly tell by the feel of the game it catered to a more "casual" player base. From the complete lack of weapon sway, no inertia, stamina bar, and last but not least the stat screen. I remember back in my BF3 days I used to be a complete stat wh0re and I'd obsess over the tiniest minutia and HLL totally fulfills that kind of player mindset (which I totally still have btw).

i agree. I've probably put in more hours in HLL the past few years than any other game in the last 15 years and it's just gone downhill lately. I almost exclusively play squad lead which is so much fun when everyone communicates and you have a good commander. lately, no one talks, no one listens, including the other squad leads and commander.

I bought this game. Booted it up and jumped into the game. I had no idea what I was supposed to do, where to go, who to follow and what my role is. It's just so confusing for new players. I just gave up and haven't touched the game in 2 months. Total playtime is 59 minutes.

I'm the rare kind who would actually like to see both games succeed. The problem with HLL is that there's been just too many new people and a lot of the veterans got bored from lack of content. T17 hasn't done much with the game. PS is just too milsim for most people. I wish they would dial it back a little bit to make the game more accessible but I know the loyal fanbase are more into the realism. In a perfect world we would have 2 great games to play.

1k Hours here in HLL, completely agree... People just dont use mic's anymore and its sad

I'm a younger player and I thought people weren't gonna take me serious - so I chose not to use my mic. But i definitely see the problem, I'm also a new player and having a hard time learning the general game. When i load up HLL I still have lots of fun and i think the game is awesome.

why don't you try competitive HLL?

glad i had my fun with it in the earlier times, but I knew it was over when black matter sold the game to team17.

Switched from HLL to Post Scriptum 2 years a ago and after Offworld Industries bought it I switched to Squad last year. Anyone looking for team and squad cohesion enforcing game, the Squad is it where its at, everything else utter garbage for people looking this sort of experience.