i dunno

maybe the mysterious man?

Sean please

Maybe a video on red dead revolver the game before red dead redemption 1

One of the girls of the gang

he had the drip

That's because he's mexican mexicans are the original cowboys of North America, we taught Americans how to be cowboys, cowboy culture runs deeper in mexico than here in America. Gold and silver belts and guns are very normal in mexico

@@oralevato1841 oh yeah ofc my grandparents were very hispanic and i grew up watching westerns and also a cool little thing isbin the epilogue as john, in new austin when looting, the del lobos have the most valuables outta all the other gangs u fight

​@@calebrodarte7888"Very Hispanic" ok bro

Bill also cares for Arthur but he didn't learn anything from the past events and decided to put blind loyalty over common sense

Javier was never conflicted. What game did you play. He was always like "Dutch is right" "stick by dutch" the entire game all he did was make excuses for dutch.

​@@matthew4326Thank you for not putting an ounce of thought into neither the video nor OP's comment.

@@scrimpsy 😘

There’s a lot I can say about ur comment but imma just agree with the last thing u said about John not going after Javier, bc he was never actually ordered to go against him in the first place, he only does so bc Bill was still in contact with him and he knew he’d be with Javier, but when turning him in to Ross John asks “Can we assume one of my commitments is cleared” to which Fordham replies “until we have Williamson, nothing is cleared”. In case u don’t know what that’s implying it’s basically John asking if Javier is good enough instead of Bill but they reject it saying Bill is still a priority, basically making John turning Javier in for nothing except an extra head for Ross to claim

Yoy know I was once in a stage production of clue and I was tasked with playing colonel mustard and as such I took inspiration from bill Williamson for how I played him

There's a ch 6 mission where argur and are alone and bill basically tells you shut up and trust dutch. This was before arthur knew he was a rat, but when John comes back saying dutch left him, and arthur knowing and telling the gang about Micah. At least Javier is conflicted. I don't hate Bill, i even enjoy him at times because my hometown is full of idiots with an inferiority complex and it's funny. But that's all bill was I think, seemed like he just saw it as him moving up, instead of realizing that it was over.

​@421less1 how do we know you're not one of those idiots 😂

@@MedroffYT because I couldn't like me less if I tried

@@421less1 being self depreciating is the new idiotic

Yah bc Hosea was basically the leader .once u see your leader or advisor die then u start losing hope .

Except the fact Javier was literally one of the men that left John to die along with Dutch. Replay the mission and you’ll see Javier’s cold expression as Micah and Dutch blatantly lie about John being killed. That’s also why John confronts him in rdr1 with “What you and Dutch did was wrong, the way you left me was wrong” and Javier just looks down with guilt knowing he screwed up. Plus Javier wasn’t one of John’s targets so John went after him out of revenge and hoping he can just turn him in instead of Bill so he can finally see his family

​@@josephstalin2606he didn't go for revenge. escuella was helping bill, he went for information, but javier didn't sell him out. (even when he said to john that he could take him to bill, he was clearly lying because he lied about dutch being in colombia)

@@JavierEscuella1899 And then he immediately sells out Bill anyways the moment John lassos him 😂 He would’ve done anything to save his own skin, that’s why John doesn’t take it easy on him bc he sees right through his lies. You’re right about the sole reason him getting Javier isn’t JUST revenge, but there’s still the theme of it bc again, Javier isn’t actually a target but John went for Javier not just to get info, but to try and turn him in instead of Bill That’s why when John hands Javier over to Fordham and Ross he asks them “Can we assume one of my commitments is cleared” AKA can Javier be taken in place of Bill or Dutch and Fordham rejects it saying “Until we have Williamson, nothing is cleared” and John is visibly angry bc now he still has to go after Bill and went thru the effort of handing Javier over for nothing Now don’t forget, Javier LEFT John to DIE in RDR2, he’s seen expressionless behind Dutch as he lies to Arthur saying John was killed yet John reveals they straight up ditched him, just listen to the dialogue when he confronts Javier, he shows more hostility and anger towards Javier than he ever does to Bill or Dutch, Bill bc he was on the train and didn’t leave him to die then and Dutch bc of how he helped him take out Micah years later

Red Dead Revolución actually sounds really cool! I dont think it could be as large as rdr1 or 2, but maybe a shorter game that covers Javier’s history and how he found Dutch. Could also lead to other games that cover different gang members’s background

I feel like Rockstar needs to stray away from making any more games involving the Van Der Linde gang.

@@Nathator97 If anything, they should just do RDR1 remake and Javier's story being a DLC or something like that. It's not like he'd be in different areas than RDRs take place.

Red Dead Revolution is such a hard name

Red dead revolver is only a red dead game in name, other than cowboys it is completely separate

@@grumpy-wolfman That's a really good point. To the best of my knowledge, while Arthur had complained about how things were going, that was the first time he publicly challenged Dutch's authority. When Grimshaw killed Molly she criticizes Arthur who was trying to stop Dutch from killing her because that's the code. After Arthur throws out Strauss I believe it's Karen, could be someone else since I haven't played through the game in awhile, who asks him if he's going to throw them out too. Helping the Indians and not telling Dutch could also be seen as not putting the gang first. Not saying what Arthur did was wrong but I can see how other gang members could see them as him undermining Dutch and the gang.

highly doubt he would try and help John and even if he did, by the time he reached the cliff he would prob find John gone and maybe Arthur dead idk

Aye, I appreciate that thank you! Honestly as long as you enjoy what i put out im happy

but in the next shot, he has his gun pointed at them

Callander Brothers are very interesting indeed and almost never talked about, as i commented previous on other content "Rockstar does plan ahead with events and characters like Heide McCort here. And they also do it in RDR2 in a very subtle way most people seem to forget with Mac and Davey Challander the brothers are mentioned quite alot through-out the story. They mysteriously die before RDR2 really starts as perhaps a perfect setup for future games perhaps even as main-characters like you can play multiple main-characters in GTA V. With members like Bill and others mentioning how much he misses them and that they were great, and members like Charles remembering them as pure outlaws and terrible people most likely having to do with the honor system every RDR game has."

​@@theflyingdutchman1301 an especially good point when you consider another gang member died just before the story and we only hear about her like once

Everybody says that, because the actor of Javier himself said that he didn't point his gun at the two in a interview.

yea false go watch it on ur own and actor who played said he never aimed at them so I’ll take his word over a random guy who’s spewing whatever

@@tyler6602 The actor did make the scene. In interviews they talk about it really long and often. It's called motion capture, so the actors were needed to make the characters alive.

Well duh you’re not a good person,but an honorable one at that, depends how you play too, you could be a menace and die a menace 😂

Not only Bill building and leading a game but taking over Fort Mercer which is full of Del Lobo's. That and it's implied that Bill and Javier kept in touch or knew where to find each other.

Shieeeeeeeet.

Read my mind. I was actually thinking the same thing the other day.

Also larger, in fact it was closer to the O'Driscoll Gang in terms of size with Blackwater killing about a dozen gang members instead of just Mac, Jenny, and Davey

It's never stated in RDR 1 the number of victims of the Blackwater Massacre. The whole "dozen dead gangmembers" stuff is a big-ass Mandela-Effect thing that some people seem to suffer.

@@b.u.l.1734 I thought it was just bad journalism also was it ever said in rdr 1 that it was Dutch's boys?

@@Makarosc Nope. That's in RDR 2.

What is there to possibly be talked about? Nobody knows or can predict how things would’ve turned out if Jack got shipped off. 💀🤣

I agree. The only notable characters in the gang that had any real substance or true character that made them feel more than just a “member” were Dutch, Arthur, John, Hosea, Micah-plus Sadie and Charles towards the later half of RDR2. Everyone else in the gang kinda just felt “there”, especially the likes of Molly, Pearson, Uncle, Ms. Grimshaw and the rest of the women. Anything we know about a lot of other members is through small interactions at camp, a few of the side missions that don’t pertain to the story or whatever kind of RDR2 lore you can dive into. But I do realize some characters weren’t meant to have big roles or characters that you knew all about. There’s a lot of mystery in RDR that is left to the player’s on interpretation- which is something I think Rockstar did intentionally.

I thought the same and hotter take it completely butchers RDR1’s storyline. The idea that Hosea and Arthur aren’t even mentioned despite functioning as co-leaders by anyone else is far fetched at best. Never mind John himself saying it was a small ruthless gang and yet there are like 20 people involved that we see and it’s implied they were even bigger prior and again no mention either

@@Mr92094 Yep. The gang was a lot bigger than it was in RDR2. I believe they lost at least 2-3 members in Blackwater right before RDR2 started.

That was obviously the story they were trying to tell. Javier and Bill werent even huge parts of the first game. As targets, yes but they still took a backseat to Bonnie, West Dickens, Irish, Seth, the entire Mexican cast including the girl that dies for Reyes. All of them are much more active in the story without even touching on Ross, Dutch and Johns family.

​@@Mr92094 it doesnt really. Nobody ever mentions specifics, just broad strokes. Going off the first game alone, we really have no idea about any of it other than Dutch went crazy and John got shot on the riverboat and left for dead. We assumed for years it all took place on the riverboat (it probably was intended) but its never elaborated on. The whole premise of RDR1 was tying off the loose ends from the gang. That there was more to it originally doesnt change that. Some people just like to complain I guess

Key word is "was"

No, Javier was just easy to control, easy to pull to his side

@@thenappyheadskater5235 Real Dutch I said didn't I?

Not really tho bc yes he took in a starving young lad but then instead of providing legitimate opportunities for him he indoctrinated him into his outlaw ways and basically holds the fact that he saved him over his head by demanding loyalty, even if he doesn’t outright say it he doesn’t have to. Then you realize the pattern that almost all of them joined the gang bc Dutch played the savior and helped them, the only exceptions being Micah which also explains why Micah sees the rest of the gang as weak. So then it begs the question was Dutch genuinely trying to be good or did he see an opportunity and play the savior role? This is perfectly shown in how he helps Eagle Flies too and Arthur realizes he sees how Dutch manipulated him his whole life

Just because he wasn't racist to one person he was a good man? Pretty low bar.

Hell no

Dumb speculation. So useless.

Yeah right..

No Javier wouldn’t care about that, Mexicans were already treating each other like shit and Javier and his family were peasants to Allendes family and they tortured them just for asking for better wages. This is what caused Javier to become a revolutionary and then in America he meets a fellow revolutionary in Dutch which is why he admires him. It wouldn’t have anything to do with America and Mexicos relations

Story dlc

Bro commented 11 times the same thing 💀

they shouldn’t have made him so likeable tbh. i just wanna know how he became so crooked inbetween 2 and 1

@alexhodder4918 i think his actor in rdr2 was just gave a performance that made javier seem like a genuine good guy

Javier doesn’t point his gun towards Arthur and John until the very last second, right before the lawmen start shooting. Javier was reluctant and hesitant up until that point- first he pointed the gun *away* from them at first, and then raised it to the sky after.

No he doesn't he pints it the air

That should have been DLC, or a expansion not big enough for a game but would be nice to have to set them up for where they need to be for Red Dead Redemption. Bill and Javier just disappear by the time John and Arthur escape the Beaver Hollow Caves. They aren't shown in the horse chase cutscene it's just Dutch, Micah, Joe, and Cleet. Their interactions during camp at chapter 6 they were all about loyalty then all of a sudden they aren't.

Not sure what you mean. I speak of and reference things in rdr1 multiple times

There’s RDR1 clips in the video

@@CynicGTA It was my attempt a crappy joke based solely on the title of the video. I did watch the video and saw that there was RDR1 clips.