Honestly even if you consider Lego DC super villains canon (which I do even if I admit you do have to fill in a few blanks for it to work) his character profile actually can work with this backstory. His profile brings up how he lost his family and was caught in an explosion before he became the Red Hood. However at no point does it actually reference him dying. It doesn’t even bring up the Joker blowing him up, so the explosion could’ve been self-inflicted for all we know (similar to this comic).

Ok, I just wanted to point out as a Jason fan, this portrayal of him as a hotheaded and reckless kid has only really become popular in recent years, with comics like Robins, Batman: The Adventures Continue & Batman: Urban Legends effectively retconning him into some brute, who got himself killed because he disobeyed Batman's orders. Though, if you look at the source material, this portrayal couldn't be further from the truth. Jason was a very sweet and caring kid, who always saw the good in people even when Bruce was having second thoughts. Sure, he could jump to conclusions or be impulsive, but what Robin wasn't? And the fact of the matter is, Jason didn't die because he disobeyed orders on the field, but was literally tricked by his biological mother into walking into the Joker's grasps, so that she could use Jason as leverage to escape blackmail that Joker had on her. The last panel we see him alive in, he is trying to untie his mother (who lo and behold, the Joker betrayed with his broken and bruised fingers, so that at least one of them could escape. Now I can see why later adaptations left out the bits about his mom-- its convoluted and way too dark in a story that's already horrifically tragic, plus somehow having a kid die because of his own mistakes is just slightly better than one who died just because the universe was cruel. Still though, it really does pain me to see how many people still believe that Jason's death was a fault of his own recklessness or brutality, when he was literally just a sweet kid whose life was robbed from him because of a madman.

A lot of fans have pointed out that the DC Animated Universe version of Tim Drake is very similar to Jason Todd, down to the fact that they were both street kids threatened by Two-Face.

I feel like it would be tough to explore the "no killing" rule that causes the Batman / hood split in a game series where every bad guy you beat up explodes into multiple pieces

In the lego DC villain files it states Jason died or went missing in a explosion so it's possible that Jason tried to catch Joker on his own but fell for a trap ment for Batman which resulted in an explosion but seeing how Bruce doesn't have a memorial for him in LB1 it's possible Bruce didn't recover a body. This could imply one of 2 things happened 1)Jason didn't die but disappeared in the wreckage and was found by someone else to nurse him back to health maybe The L.O.S 2)Ra's al ghul found him and resurrected him.

Just to put it out there, Jason died saving his mom. He's so grateful to Bruce from giving him a home, and only started having doubts when a rapist could get away free while the victim turned to suicide. All of his "mistakes" were emotionally driven because of his childhood life as gotham street rat. And all of the "mistakes" he's done were never about himself, it's always about saving/avenging others.

“Jason was reckless, impulsive and hotheaded, which eventually led to his capture and usually death at the hands of the Joker” That’s not true and I’m sick of people pushing this like it is. Jason was feeling unwanted by Bruce, he wanted to meet his birth mother, and she betrayed him because she was being blackmailed by the Joker for embezzling from her job. And even after she helped the Joker lure him into a trap, Jason still died trying to protect her.

So did Jason’s Robin break apart like a typical Lego death when he died and respawned as red hood?

The reason killer croc was in that set is because they were at the time making sets loosely based on the suicide squad 2016 movie, and as much as I love the red hood Minifigure they should have put him in a more fitting set

I'm glad to know that I was not the only person who noticed the Animated Series' influence on the lego games and this was such a creative yet realistic way of discovering what truly happened to Jason in this universe. Bravo! 👏👏

Bet the joker just tortured him by tenderizing a steak too much and then blasting him in a giant lego pie.

Actually in the original storyline of Jason’s death he was not “reckless and Impulsive” at least no more so then any other Robin

I believe the set had Croc in it because it was around the time of the Suicide Squad movie and I’m guessing they wanted the movies promotion without using the word suicide so they made a Batman set with Killer Croc, Captain Boomerang, and Katana who were all members in the 2016 movie

idk if someone has already mention this, but in the intro for Lego DC Super-Villains, when you see the Joker stealing all kind of artifacts from Wayne Enterprises, you can see Lex Luthor's kryptonite weapon from Lego Batman 2, so personally I consider that game canon great video btw!!

Jason has always interested me in since watching under the red hood, I wish there was a more affordable way to get his minifig

Fun fact, in a text file in the code for Lego batman 1, there is a list of all the character names, including some planned characters that didn't make it into the game, such as the Ventriloquist and Scarface. "Red Hood" is included in this list as well.

im becoming obsessed with these lego theory videos

Dude the character models updates we’re just to match the new Lego figures that came out in the sets back then

Yknow my main takeaway from this video is how fun it would be to actually watch you do lore essays on non-lego related stuff, lol, considering over half of this video is mostly about the animated series.

Regardless of canon, neglecting my boy Jason is inexcusable >:(

Batman the Adventure Continues has a lot of canon errors, like the age of Tim Drake, references to 9/11 and other things but it could work in this lego universe.

The Jason Comics for the DCAU were only released last year… meaning the games couldn’t have been based on them

I always saw it as Jason being the Robin in the first game since he acts and looks so different to Tim in the second and third game. And that since he appears in Lego Batman 2 he died between the games. But if you pay attention to the way the characters act the robin the first game seems completely different to the one in the second, the one the first game is reckless and aggressive much like Jason. And this is probably way more than what they were ever thinking when making the games but killer croc decapitates him which could be a reference to the fact that killer croc killed Jason's mother in the comics if I remember correctly, but since nightwings in the first game that means it is after the time of Dick Grayson and since there's a massive shift in character traits between the first and second game it is not stretch to say they're two different characters. Also if you look at Batman's actions, you can see in the first game he's just happier and more chill whereas he's darker in the second game which could allude to the tragedy that took place between games

Great video! I always wondered why they skipped over Jason, and I always thought it was because it was too dark for kids to know that Robin the Boy Wonder was beaten to death with a crowbar by Joker. As for the connections to B:TAS, Tim’s costume change also happened in the comics, his first suit was the green pants one and then later on he changed to the red and black costume to honor his best friend superboy, but otherwise, it is eerily similar to the show. Also, this isn’t really related to anything but I never knew Killer Moth was planned to be in B:TAS, and it’s a shame they didn’t add him because I feel like that show could do with some goofy villains for once instead of complex tragic ones like Mr. Freeze and psychopathic murderers like the Joker.

I think Jason Red Hood isn't in LB1 because he was to new for people to know about, his Red Hood character was only made 3 years before the game was released, so the devs probably didn't think much of him or ever heard of him due to being tied to small comics

did you not think it worth mentioning that BTAC started in 2020.....

I know they'd probably never show it, but I would love an extended scene of Lego Jason Todd Robin getting 'killed,' his body falling apart like they always do in the games, and then smash cut to Ra's Al Ghul putting his pieces back together at his hideout

I don’t think redhood being in the lego games before family matters excludes the movie from being canon since LEGO Batman 2 had brainiac before he came to Gotham so I think it may just be that they wanted him in the earlier game but in terms of story he didn’t exist yet

Slight correction, LEGO Batman 2 kept some old designs (Scarecrow, Clayface, Mr. Freeze, etc.) Your point still stands though.

I’m really glad they didn’t just put Jason Todd Red hood into game just because he’s popular and actually explains the lore behind the character that isn’t just all silly but something not to graphic either

Another one of the similarities of Batman The Animated Series and Lego Batman 1 is that the start up screen for lego Batman is one to one for the theme song intro for BTAS

the main reason killer croc was in that set was because he was in suicide squad

I really want a Jason Todd Robin and Batman story, I'm fine with it even being a limited comic series.

Jason actually wasn’t that bad as Robin

Jason wasn’t hot-headed before his resurrection

How is dc super villains not a sequel? They directly mention brainiac and red hood is fully voice acted in that game

The explanation of Red Hood vs Killer Croc kinda makes sense but ... Let's be real, they released Croc Katana and Boomerang in this set so Suicide Squad movie cast, Red Hood was just a good surprise or them realising that it's a popular character

I think it's a stretch, especially with the killer croc set stuff, but it's an interesting idea, and there's really no reason not to be alright with it

Just a friendly reminder that the Jason as Red Hood storyline was made in 2005 so BTAS would have no mention

11:30 2 If you count this green lantern not being John Stewart

This was such a well researched and fascinating video. Great job.

I know it doesn’t matter, but hearing TNBA be referred to as BTAS season 3 hits my ear wrong. The inner DCAU fanboy in me is screaming “ITS SEASON 4”

9:08 i know i did not just watch the sickest transition on earth

15:20 you also have to keep in mind that in this wave they also released a set with Batman fighting Deadshot and Harley Quinn And that set you're talking about has Katana and captain boomerang and all of these came out around the time the suicide squad movie came out so part of me feels like that's why croc was there

i think a more likely answer for why jason isn't mention Lego Batman 1 is that the robin were with is jason. if you look at the outfits and compare it to the comics the outfit robin wares in lb1 is very similar to jasons. Just what i like to think though as it makes my timeline make more sense seeing as i consider the games and movies too be two seperate canons.

This goes hard much love and thx for talking about my favorite Robin

This starts sounding like a conspiracy theory video at roughly 9 minutes in.

Actually, I'm pretty sure the set with killer croc resembles more the DC super villains game because of the design of croc himself and also captain boomerang. But it still works because I think Jason Todd's canon of that game is perfectly compatible with everything that you mentioned.

LEGO Batman takes place in the same universe as the animated series and the Game developers wanted to take a friendly side so they didn’t include Jason todd story

The physical LEGO Jason Todd Robin's design is actually pulled from DC's New 52 era. I was gonna mention that appearance until I checked the costume he was wearing.

Nice vid bro, Lego lore goes hard.

Red Hood deserves a rated M video game like the punisher game that came out in 05.

15:28 they used killer croc because it came out around the same time as suicide squad. Also I’m pretty sure the set came out before the comic

Scarface being carved from a tree is from the comics. The gallows tree was at blackgate, not arkham. In fact the data even says it's from blackgate. And in tas, when wesker was carving Scarface, he was just rebuilding him, not creating him for the first time.

*And then lego dimensions happened..* Which I believe is what changes the dc universe, putting gotham and metropolis together, thus starting lego dc super villains.

I love these types of videos.

The reason that croc appears in that set with not only captian boomerang and kitana is becuase the suicide squad movie was being released at the time. lego never put out offical suicide squad sets but to capitalize on the movie they rolled those characeters into other sets.

this is my favorite type of content

The big problem with this is that this comic was released well after Lego Batman 2 & 3 and is even more dubiously cannon than Family Matters and Lego Supervillains

Would love to see more Lego Batman lore videos like this

I mean you can say that your explanation on why red hood came in the same set as killer croc can work it does have a lot of evidence to lift it up but there is also just the reason of the suicide squad movie releasing the same year as those sets and the other set connected to that wave has dead shot and Harley Quinn and adding katana and killer croc and captain boomerang it has the substantial characters of that film and red hood was a very highly requested character at the time

This deserves to be more than a 4AM video for me

the DCAU doesn't refuse to mention jason todd, it just predates the red hood reveal. that only happened in 2005, the same year justice league unlimited ended. as far as lego batman, I honestly don't think it was an intentional omission. like I said jason todd was revealed as red hood in 2005, development of the first lego batman began in 2007, it genuinely might just be that red hood jason todd was too recent at the time of the games development to be included, the development team might not have even been aware of that storyline when they were working on the game. I mean, damien was introduced around the same time and like red hood he also didn't appear until lego batman 2

thank you bdipples

I’m my opinion, Jason’s canon in arkham is the best and represent the true resentment for batman. because instead of being beaten with a crowbar for 15 minutes and blown up, jason is brutally tortured for months in a wing of arkham. which if rumours hold truth batman WALKS PAST in arkham asylum. being beaten for months and batman not trying to save him really shows how much resentment jason has for him: even if the arkham knight wasn’t the best execution of his revenge.

I know it’s a dark story, but be a very interesting plot for the Lego Batman 4 if that ever happens

"If the game holds the same continuity as dc cannon" Bro, it does NOT. It is based on Batman TAS. Jason Todd is not in Batman The Animated Series, and thus not in the lego game. And since nightwing is not in the story, only batman and robin, you could even argue that this robin is Dick Grayson (even thought this adds up in regards to clayface being alive and the height difference between Batman and Robin)

i always thought the lego batman timeline went like this: lbm2-dick grayson's robin lbm1-jason todd's robin lbm3-tim drake's robin

I don't remember Lego batman 1 ever referring to Robin as Tim, so I always assumed Lego batman 1 is Jason, 2 and 3 are Tim, also makes more sense with the costume and hairstyle

13:08 why do I remember the first part of this being an episode. Like, Joker torturing Robin and exploding the warehouse he's in with and then Bats saving him.

in the ds version you can build a gravestone with a red hood n top of it in the batcave trophy room

I don’t really look at the whole Jason was killed then brought back. It hurts my brain, so I mainly just look at the Arkham knight game where he was abused by joker but didn’t necessarily die

These 3 am videos are getting better nowadays

Do you think it's possible to 100% lego batman 3 except the bonus level and final level without finishing the game. (Get all collectibles before the story is complete)?

This is a great theory but I'm not sure if you should use those comics for this as those where only made in more recent years (2020-2021) where as the games and movies were all made before that in the 2000's and 2010's so I don't think this could've been what they had in mind for Jason but I guess you could find some way to make it work anyways love your content man

I will say, while the games do draw from the DCAU, they also have Damian. And the Justice League is not based on the DCAU one it's the New 52 Justice League. It's much more of a mish mash then taking from any one source.

My man is really racing himself 😭😂

When Lego Joker hit Lego Jason Todd with the crowbar it just broke him apart like in the video game and he stole all his studs and that’s why Lego Red Hood wants to kill Joker now

More Lego Batman Lore lets goooooo!

This is fun a video but feels less like a theory and leans closer to conspiracy theory. The leaps and bounds to connect btas with the lego games would make stretch Armstrong blush. Obviously when introducing the wider world of hero's the justice league would share a majority of similar members, but even in that GL and the flash are different people from the shows. And the redesign point makes no sense either seeing that the only character that follows this is robin. In on-going series' like games character redesign is done to keep some semblance of something being new and fresh like in the arkham games. I think the solution is much simpler than it's made out to be: 1989 Keaton batman is separate from everything BTAS is influenced by but untimely separate from the films. Since it's a children's show they have limits on what can and cannot be shown, therefore skipping over Jason's story who at this point has yet to become red hood in any media. Electing to go with at the time what was the current robin and avoiding the connection to Jason possibly being murdered later on. And finally the lego games taking inspiration from both the 89 film series and BTAS, but still apart from both. At the time of of the first game red hood was still a pretty recent character and not really suited for lego batman 1. It's not uncommon for materials with a younger audience in mind to skip over Jason in favor of drake, as least until the series matures more. That's just my take. By no mean was it a bad video, just a little too far reaching.

Jason always had that darkness in it, the pit and him coming back made him embrace it instead of fighting it like he tried to as robin

I would not rely on that new animated series comic tie-in, it breaks canon many times and was only created so DC collectibles could sell figures outside of the show in the animated series style

Lego Batman 2 red hood was in every version I remember unlocking him on ps3

using the revita train music in the background, cute ^^

yeah but the sewer smash set came out before the comic had even been thought about, let alone being published

How does death even work in the Lego universe? Can’t people just be rebuilt?

Well in recent years the position of being skipped over goes to Tim Drake soooo, I guess there’s only ever enough room for 3 robins at a time in one particular place and they’re certainly never gonna pass on Dick lol

Bro was looking a little too far into this when he brought up the legos

Adaptations of Jason's story always neglect to mention his mother's involvement in his death. I hope if it gets adapted to live action for a movie, or better yet a series, they include her.

i remember the lego batman 2 movie that they used for the game

I clicked on this video while I was playing Batman: Arkham Knight and then halfway through the video I see a scene showing Jason Todd being beat by the Joker

4:16 actually the atom in lego dc super villians right before you start boss fight with him in the story he points out shrinking technology of BRAINIAC so that takes place after lego batman 3 becouse they have acces to brainiac' s tools and atom is reasearching them

BD1P??? THE ISAAC GUY? WHAT? Im so confused, incredible content though :)

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Reminder that Jason’s death was a result of a real life poll held where the fans voted on his fate.

would you ever do any videos on the lego marvel games?

He forgot LEGO Dimensions. That’s part of the LEGO Batman timeline. I haven’t played it so I don’t know if Red Hood is in it. And LEGO Dimensions takes place after LEGO Batman 2.

I've always taken the robin from Lego batman 1 to be Jason Todd given as nightwing already exists and the robin for 1 is clearly different to the tim drake robin from 2 and 3

there is also a lego set with jason todd ,batman and deathstoke

Great as hell video only thing that annoyed me was the 1990 batman movie cause it was actually 1989