So in reality, the Mad Rapper has always been the Mad Producer

Press play. Tap screen 3x. Thank me later 😎. 🤣🤣🤣

The beat maker is just the composer of the instrumental. The producer is the overseer of the completion of the song, giving direction and input, telling you what tone to use etc and Puff is a master of that.

He asked when do instrumental albums sell. But what can "producers" sell without the beats?....producers really have no jobs without the work of the beatmakers and the artists. That's why "beatmakers" get the shine and the producers will always play the background. The beats are the foundation of every song. Period.

This is looking like the interview of the year! Congrats Math.

I love the Rawness of how D Dot talks and he makes his understanding understood I wish he just did more interviews .

Kanye didn’t have anything to do with the Netflix documentary. Say what you want but Kanye is undeniable for his production.

This dude keep saying Kanye made the beat....shit the beat is the track.

I don’t agree with him saying “just a beatmaker” like a beatmaker isn’t one of the most important roles. When you know how to put instruments together and layer all of your drums, and work day in and day out to perfect your sound- you are a PRODUCER!! Producers are beat makers!! What Bdot is talking about is EXEC-producing-when you take a beat from a producer and you take the vision even further as far as finding the artist, establishing that connection and creating the work. 💯

Kanye produced the track bruh stop hating. You had connections for the feature but he made the beat period.

The reason why Ye’ went up an D went down… end of story

There’s something that’s happening in our society in politics, the arts etc. where frauds are somehow being pushed to the top and people who actually do real work are lot recognized or pushed out of the way.

This is the cat that had me thinking like this back in the early 2000's when heads were REALLY confused about the difference between a beatmaker and a Producer....Mad respect forever Dot the man ..

Tap 4 ✖️ infinite 8 Kanye ain’t got shit on NY you gave up on your giver of you mr west blessing billionaire 🥺😳🤔🤫

Great interview. D-Dot taking his flowers🔥🔥

All I hear is " My $hit was more John Blaze than That" 😅

D Dot is really the mad rapper

D Dot probably put his name on the tracks of many unknown producers I mean “beatmakers”

This is insightful. For all podcasts out their doing there thing, take notes. This platform right here is the real deal, not just people talking for the sake of it to scratch their own egos. Whenever I click a video I am either given a history lesson, backstory, understanding of industry relationships, ideas around entrepreneurship that extends beyond music, or another way to think about a problem space in music which also makes me think about solutions to these issues/challenges/problems, and I'm always entertained (plus its not 15 hours long). Credit to all of you who put this together so well 👏🏿

Long story short D Dot wants the dots connected and be rightfully credited for helping Kanye West.

Kanye wasn't in charge of the documentary D Dot

Kanye could’ve been in the room producing classics back then too I’m sure he’d tell you nobody was trying to hear that either.

The mad rapper sounding like the mad producer

Kanye was unofficial member of the hitmen a lot of people don’t know that d dot mase nas need they flowers cause they put on an early ye

Kanye is a Legend

Love the fact he explains the definition between beat maker and producer. You can make a whole instrumental, but as soon as you sell it and some one else is using it to orchestrate the finishing of a song then you have to understand you were the beat maker of the song. The producer is the director of the song. Both play an important role, but one is there to help the artist with their artist on a personal level.

Love when “producers” talk music. It clearly defines Dr. Dre’s role for those that don’t think he produces, because someone else made the drum track or some shit.

D-Dot sounding bitter. kanye was giving him props on last call

“Tell em why you mad” -Mad Rapper

I really like that Poppa was a playa track off of Nas's "The Lost Tapes". My older brother had played it for me and we'd always plan trips to either best buy or target to buy the 1st copy of certain hip hop albums upon their releases and if we really respected the artist, we'd both each buy a copy of their album specifically (Kanye West, Jay-Z & Nas) and It was the 1st time I'd ever heard of the producer term "panning" because the hi hat arrangement would swing from left to right beautifully 🫢🤦🏾‍♂️and the chime was strategically placed and weaved into the track but Oh my God I love that sample, which by the way came from an Eddie Kendricks a.k.a Cornbread from the Temptations record. Nas's story telling was visual and everything jelled together nicely but I haven't heard many songs like that record if any. I challenge anyone to learn that hi hat arrangement 🔥🤦🏾‍♂️🤣👌🏾

Lost tapes is some of Nas best work

respect to D Dot for the clarification

"We can find this information out, it's not a masonic thing" Loved this statement he said. Sometimes people make things deeper than what it really is. Sometimes things are simple.

He sounds like he's in mad rapper mode on this one

Beatmakers are prodcuers..Just say there's levels to production. Trying belittle different talents shows insecurity or hate or the feeling of not being recognized for ones contributions.

D dot the greatest producer in the world (in his mind) with flopped albums as a soloist and in a group. Make it make sense 🤷🏾‍♂️

Dude is trippin. You don’t have to be in the room to be a producer. You just have to contribute to the song. That’s why he eventually said Kanye co-produced the record. FOH cut it out D Dot

“beat makers” arent coproducers. the idea is just as important at the end product.

If he was just a beat maker then why did you just you use his beats? Why didn’t you just make the records from scratch yourself?

glad he put the truth out🙏🏿👍

CONTEXT: Kanyes first production placement was with a Chicago rapper on Columbia Records long before D-Dot was in the picture. Then Jermaine Durpri "Turn it out" with Nas. He was actually almost signed to Columbia under management of Free Maiden and Hip Hop and John Monopoly and No-ID by his side. He had Chicago on his side before D-Dot. D-dot had a platform Kanye have the talent and gave his beats to D-dot so he can do the networking for him to have placements. D-dot helped thats his credit. But as you saw on the documentary Kanye had to fight to get the deal. Why wouldnt D-dot sign him as a rapper? You can never ever deny Ye's talent and contribution. ever. My question to the critics.. what you have contributed???

The mad rapper song with DMx and Jd is cold af🎥✊🏾

You know the funny thing is that D-Dot is a true O.G. and legendary producer in the game and the crazy thing is that a lot of people don't know who he is but everybody know Kanye and this is not to take nothing away from D-Dot but the stars was aligned for Kanye to take off into the stratosphere and that he did D-Dot is like the proud teacher/master and Kanye was his humble student/protege respectfully!!🙏🏾💪🏾✊🏾👍🏾👑💯 ~Some People Have To Carve Out There Own Destiny To Become Great, Whereas Some People Are Destined For Greatness Don't Let That Go Over Your Head~

"A wagging tongue bites itself" - Chrétien de Troyes.

“That Mad Rapper” iykyk 🤫

I FINALLY PAUSED IT! RIGHT Before that shot went off at the end! Dope interview BTW!

Hiphop gave a different meaning to producer. That's where all the confusing comes from, constantly. D-dot is absolutely right. When somebody write lyrics, we don't say that person produced the record. you have writers, composers. and a producer. they can overlap, but non of them are the same. Obviously of course. But for some reason in hiphop we don't like the word composer, and also don't like the word beatmaker. So producer it is. When convenient.

Beat making is producing, now engineering is another level as well. If you’re programming the drums and programming the ASR or TRITON that’s producing. When it comes to levels and mix down that’s engineering.

Thats some heavy stories ✊🏿✊🏿

D dot hating

5:42 Ye doesn’t hide the fact that Mike Dean works for/with him. Mike Dean is credited on everything, tours and performs live with Ye. So Mike dean isn’t a “ghost producer” I’m low key confused on D Dot point in this whole clip? DJ Tomp did alot of work in graduation and Ye said “Tomp killed this shit” in big brother. He’s honest about who produces what… Gotta see the whole video for more context…

Better than a movie

That verse at the end is tough! They say I'm big and loud... 😮😮😮😮

Probably one of the BEST interviews ever.

Kanye was coming, you was just the stepping stone my G.

Kanye Yeezy West. Fucking legend !

The reasons he giving saying Kayne isn’t a producer is the same reason they say Puff is a producer. I’m confused.

“You don’t got a answer Mecca” 🤣🤣🤣

This that Diddy rip off mentality

Salute my brother 🙏🏾 💯

I feel like the beat maker and producer discrepancy is only known within the industry - to the consumers, the person that made the beat is the producer - that’s why we were so flabbergasted when Rick Rubin said he can’t play an instrument but calls himself a producer

I’m glad he said “co-producer” because any other title like “track-maker” is nonsense and you don’t hear that in any other genre. At the very least Kanye should’ve been credited as composer, arranger and/or musician like it was before beat-machine/DAWs were made. I agree and respect most of what D. Dot said but a producer by definition is one who creates a product and the product was a music track. So yeah “co-producer” at the very least. But whatever D. Dot is a legend, respect.

I respect D Dot blunt honesty and setting the factual truth straight.

So glad I'm getting to hear this. Because it paints the story of Kanye's journey so clear.

Dot will always tell it to you straight! One of the realest.

Maan, a masterclass in production from D. Dot would go DUMMY!!!!

"When do instrumental albums sell by themselves?" Not even a DOOM stan like that, but the Herbs & Spices series is a big outlier.

I actually liked all the songs he plays before the interviews. My only complaint is that it gets repetitive after a while.

I feel ur story, but the part about u smacking Ye!?!?! ….. not gonna happen.

Loool so Kanye made the beat but you produced the song. Got it 😂

Press play .. tap screen 3x . Thank me later 😎😆😂😂 is crazy

D-Dot teaching Kanye West about production, sounds and what goes with what is just another accolade under D-Dot's umbrella.

So you said you and Ye was co-producing. I thought you was the producer and he was the beatmaker😮

Think of rock&roll , the band , Drummer and bass player make the beat . The producer makes the song

He's really the mad rapper

Dilla Dounts sold off instrumentals ! So you work on beats ? Send it to someone that's a "Production Company " ? And since your not there or have a name ? You get no credit? Or the Actual Record ? The Record Company is a Maze!😂😂

HIGH IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE NAS SONGS EVERRRR!

“Is it back to ghost producing for d-dot on the low?”

D-Dot did that Nas joint "High" 😮😮😮

Let's go Math....

Old boy talking spicy like he think this is the 90z 😒 knock it off

'First, you and I sit down and have a loving and open conversation, but you don’t use cuss words, and everything that is discussed is based in fact, and not some crazy stuff that dumb friend of yours told you, or you saw in a tweet. 'Second option. I have you institutionalized again where they medicate the crap out of you, and you go back to Zombieland forever. Play date with the kids just won’t be the same.' Harley Pasternak to Kanye West on a text message

That was 💯.

Nas -high unreleased record is so fuckin fireeee

99% of rappers produce themselves, this is not Pop or RnB. Dont fall for the game. In hip hop we care about who produced the beat not who pressed record and said "I like that." 2 Pac said it best."Daz produces the beat, then Dre comes along and turn a few knobs and get all the credit."

it sounds convincing but i call bs on one part ...the label still has to clear and add info on all tracks ,pretty sure they called someone to find out the name of D. dot publishing company so theyy can add it to the credits/booklet but i fully agree on the beatmaker ,producer argument

I worked on many projects as a producer and beatmaker. There IS a difference. Dr. Dre is a great example. Scot Storch will make a beats and then he will go in and add his flair then work with the artist to produce the beat. That's why artist talk about how long he takes to record a song with him b/c he's a producer that's obsessed with perfection. Think of a composer and an orchestra. The orchestra are the beatmakers, they play the instruments and the composer is the producer. He puts it all together. Some people are just good at making beats. Some are just good at producing. Some can do both. I've done both. It's a HUGE difference. A BEATMAKER CANT MAKE HITS OR A HOT SONG. A PRODUCER CAN!! Another example is Quincy Jones. Thriller is the greatest selling album of all time and Quincy Jones is considered one of the greatest producers of all time. He knows how to play instruments himself(orcehstra/beatmaker) but on thriller(and other albums too), he produced the records(composer/producer). If the people he hired to play the instruments did it themselves we both know Thriller wouldn't've never sounded the way it did. Our problem in the hip hop genre is that we are taught false and flat out incorrect information on what is what. Any other genre this is clearly understood. Kanye also did the SAME THING that D.Dot is talking about with HIT-BOY!

So dude here to discredit Kanye, ok got it ...

Chi up in here😶

So he made moves and put in work 🤷🏾‍♂️

Kanye > D-Dot. This guy sounds bitter. It's okay, Kanye's credits speak for themselves. What's happening right now with D-Dot? You have to make the beat dummy. Then you, finish producing it to its final form. This got did the puffy symbol and says he produced the beat. Kanye was Ghost producing for D-Dot. Mike Dean does produce Kanye's songs. Why can't D-Dot do it now? I believe Kanye over this guy

"Me the Rox, give up the box"

Ye a Billionaire, CHICAGO. They invented hiphop and HATE

D Dot been angry his entire career. Madd Rapper to his heart😂😂😂

He did the beats or the crew the hitmen did the beats?

dem shoes is crazy math 🤣🤣, you gettin money now get stylists man

Like yo that one album in 1999 with how to rob and ghetto shit like that its coo but for him to say dilla isnt seeing his catalog is insane

Without the beat, there is no record. The beat is what inspires the writer’s words for the track. More often than not, most of the “producers” don’t do anything but slap their tag on the beat… and credits. Then try to downplay the “beat maker”. Smdh

I hate when these thief’s try to justify their crookedness with the whole “I’m a producer, they’re a beat maker” spiel. Poppa Was a Playa which D-Dot stole the credits for is a straight sample. What the hell did he “produce”? Kanye enlisting Timbaland to redo the drums on “Stronger” is an example of someone actually producing, not this crap that this guy is pushing.

He madd madd 😅