I had to tow an HD truck the other day with a strap for the first time. I wasn't sure, but I work on vehicles, so I just assumed that you needed to pull the driveshaft. The driver tried to talk me out of it and even got pissed because we were wasting time. But I did it anyway. After watching this, im glad that I did. 💪
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Yessir you would have been buying a transmission
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Жыл бұрын
If the engine will start and running while towing. Towing by strap suggests a very short distance.
@DEVIL666wtf Жыл бұрын
@@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 nope been flat towing all my life neutral is all you need
@DEVIL666wtf Жыл бұрын
You were wasting time indeed
@DEVIL666wtf Жыл бұрын
@@carlt6932 oh makes sense then nvm I do apologize ya if it's not moving fluid then ya disconnect it didn't realize it was one of those Iv only move a few of those
@Trucker-Belly Жыл бұрын
Yeah I forgot to pull the driveshaft once in my entire life and now I pay child support 😂😂
@Mostly-Nuts Жыл бұрын
Ahhahahha…. 😐
@alexnunez8189 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 😂
@thunderstorm4074 Жыл бұрын
It was going to happen in one point
@DL101ca Жыл бұрын
I guess you weren't using a "manual " transfer case...
@Jellylazer Жыл бұрын
Fucking christ
@kevind3185 Жыл бұрын
In my previous occupation in the Towing industry A friend I work with died hooking a bus on the side of the expressway. The bus got hit, he was underneath. If I was doing the tow I'm hooking and slow rolling to the next exit before I'm dropping the driveshaft. Every working person deserves to go home at the end of their shift.and I care far more about my life then I do your transmission.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Someone’s transmission is not worth more than your life
@nobodyyyyy556 Жыл бұрын
your friend isn't the first or last person to get killed due to a lack of a business not properly training employees
@ronniewilliz153 Жыл бұрын
I was hooking my car up to pull it 3 miles and cars where so freaking close it was a state road it was busy.
@jaycoppola4324 Жыл бұрын
I'm a truck mechanic...One time I had to change an air brake valve right in the middle of the frame,up under the fifth wheel-On the side of I-95 during rush hour. The valve had exploded,and the spring brakes were locked. So there I am,wedged under the tractor,with the driveshaft in my armpit,and all I kept thinking was that if the truck got hit,no one would even know I was there until they smelled me rotting. Sorry about your friend.
@suggesttwo Жыл бұрын
Defective design.
@natemars1059 Жыл бұрын
That’s heavy towing 101… ALWAYS PULL THE DRIVESHAFT if the drive tires are on the ground.
@Romuls753 Жыл бұрын
Or the axle shafts if you can't get the drive shaft out, or if for whatever reason the diff grenaded
@charlesrodriguez7984 Жыл бұрын
@@Romuls753 I see people on YT not doing that even with smaller vehicles too. They’re like “well no need to disconnect the driveshaft” it’ll be fine” no it won’t. Then this happens ⚙️💥
@legros731 Жыл бұрын
It way easier to remove the axle shaft on one side of the truck no need to go under and maneuvers a big heavy driveshaft
@donaldsmith6404 Жыл бұрын
@@Romuls753 if the dif had gone bad you need to pull all the axles to save the ring gear from spinning and catching a piece of debris and messing up the housing
@Romuls753 Жыл бұрын
@@donaldsmith6404 did you read what I posted or did you see a need to repeat my comment back to me? Do you think about the things you post?
@aaronsprojects9622 Жыл бұрын
I work for a towing company and was always told "it'll catch on fire" when asking why. I've always known that you have to pull the drive line but I never fully understood. This explains alot and makes me say "Oh yeah, well duh" to myself. 🤣 thank you.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Yessir you are very welcome
@kramnull8962 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure things are very unclear when it is pouring rain in 35F or less. Especially when there is a semi involved in a crash in the middle of the night....
@aaronsprojects9622 Жыл бұрын
@kram Null you know, when I'm working truck wrecks I usually not thinking about why transmission can't be spun in neutral going down the road.
@juliogonzo2718 Жыл бұрын
@@kramnull8962 I have removed driveshafts in -35°C and it really sucks.
@juliogonzo2718 Жыл бұрын
someone I knew was towing a scrap UPS truck and left the driveshaft in because it was going to the wrecking yard anyway. that is exactly what happened. he was driving along and he started to notice smoke and sparks coming out from under it
@TheMatbrown Жыл бұрын
I'm not a mechanic, but when I opened this video and saw all those gears, with your explanation about them. I was hooked, great video, and I do want to see how you put it back together...
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! In the meantime check out our video on how to assemble a fro16210c
@mikeromine6495 Жыл бұрын
29 year Eaton Rep. Excellent explanation. I can only add that if a manual transmission is in low range being towed with the drive shaft installed, once the driveshaft speed reaches 1000 rpm, the transmission main shaft speed will be turning roughly 5000 rpm. The reason is the auxiliary is about 5:1 gear reduction, but when it being driven by the drive shaft, it is a 500% overdrive. Hope that makes sense….
@endtimeawakening55576 ай бұрын
Makes perfect sense, Mike. When you backdrive, everything is opposite, and reduction becomes overdrive. I've heard that many tank drive trains were destroyed from the driver's popping the clutch to slow them down while descending a hill. The backdrive became insanely fast overdrive...
@holisterbruxly4554 Жыл бұрын
Had a tow truck company do this to my car, when confronted they lied and said they used a flatbed. Luckily buildings camera proved they were lying, they still fought like crazy but ended up having to pay me. Lot of seedy shady ppl in the tow truck bizz.
@cockasorrus7475 Жыл бұрын
Every business from lawyers to mechanics. You name it!
@eddiecongdontrucking Жыл бұрын
Yup shady
@benwachtel23 Жыл бұрын
Yea shady things can happen in businesses that appear shady. I work for a towing company that has a good reputation in my mind. We’ve got at least 30 trucks, and people who have generations of experience. But I really don’t like people with your opinion who think we’re all shady. In some situations it is necessary to pull the drive shaft. I’ve never had to do it on a car. But something like a pickup truck with a trailer might need to have the driveshaft pulled.
@Mannievh Жыл бұрын
Just happened this morning to my truck when they front towed it with the rear wheel drive wheels rolling to a repair shop. The transmission locked up and is toast. The driver tried to blame me that I didn’t opt for a flat bed truck! I told him you didn’t ask and I didn’t know that would happen even if you did. You are the tow operator and should know better
@miequipmenttech839 Жыл бұрын
“NO WEAKNESS, ONLY WRENCHES” 🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧
@williambentley719 Жыл бұрын
🔧 🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧
@adamcharlton8552 Жыл бұрын
Yessss well played!! 🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧🔧
@FireCampSecurity Жыл бұрын
🔧🔧🔧🔧
@therapgame1091 Жыл бұрын
🔧
@DEVIL666wtf Жыл бұрын
🔧I'm torn I also like 🥐🤣
@ArmyRayOIF Жыл бұрын
This is not just for trucks all cars and light trucks have similar issues. Never tow a vehicle with the driveline engaged. This only works if you have a transfer case that can be put in neutral. This is why the Jeep is the favorite in tow vehicle behind RVs.
@peterbrill1017 Жыл бұрын
$5 that output shaft is still spinning
@user-xg8yy7yl1d Жыл бұрын
Especially not automatic transmissions. You can actually tow a manual with the driveshaft in if you're not going very fast or far. For example to get it to a better place for removing the driveshaft. OBS 4x4 fords can be towed with both transfer case and transmission in neutral.
@mikepekala832 Жыл бұрын
Actually some 1980 Mercedes have auxiliary pumps that work if it’s being towed or needs more pressure when being driven.
@EdilbertoAriasRolon Жыл бұрын
@@mikepekala832 y los puedes arrancar a remolque siendo de transmission automatica. Un saludo desde Asunción Paraguay
@redfox-zj5mn Жыл бұрын
I’m so confused, how can you drive if the driveshaft is disconnected
@7thfloorisnomoreq790 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone explains why you need to pull the shaft. Great video.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@hagggle3727 Жыл бұрын
I work for a DOT and we had a heavy wrecker pulling a loaded tractor trailer, didn’t pull the axles or drive shafts, just threw it in neutral. Made it 5 miles and the whole tractor burnt to the ground, trailer got dropped in time to be saved
@notchback93 Жыл бұрын
I worked at a ford dealership for alot of years and the manager or the team leader would go out to every truck towed in if it wasn’t on a flat bed and that driveshaft was still connected they made the driver of the tow company note it on their invoice if the driver refused we refused the truck, it only takes one time being blamed of ruining someone’s transmission
@jayr.9266 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Several years ago I was on I -95 going about 80mph. A semi tow was towing a broken down log truck. I remember the smell of hot metal literally 2seconds later the drive shaft flew out towrds me, hit the interstate and bounced. I hit it and it wedged between my right front tire and the wheel well. It immediately locked my wheels hard right. Headed for a stand of old pines, I thought it was over for me. Soon as I hit soft dirt it came unlodged and i barely missed a 20 25 ft diameter pine. .....THIS!!!!!!!!!
@paulmbylbie6065 Жыл бұрын
This is the man who's educating us on what's up for sure
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
We’re trying our best
@7eis Жыл бұрын
You definitely want you shaft lubed when it's doing work in a box
@ryanr9792 Жыл бұрын
Atta boy!
@franko8572 Жыл бұрын
Even more so if it’s in a brown box.
@DL101ca Жыл бұрын
@Frank O only use synthetic lube to avoid sludge in the brown box.
@ryanr9792 Жыл бұрын
@@DL101ca The guy knows his stuff.. but, yucky bruh.. reminds me of a camping trip with my hs gf 😂
@JamesReedy Жыл бұрын
Esp if it’s the back box and not the front…
@timclark932 Жыл бұрын
No wonder why the tow driver had me start the truck again because I shut it off and as soon as I got out he had me start it again. They did pull the drive shaft. Now I understand thanks for the video I appreciate it
@DiyClassics Жыл бұрын
Once heard from a old man, if the engine still started and ran fine, he'd leave the engine running on short trips to keep the input shaft turning and didn't need to unbolt the driveshaft.
@tomoshea732 Жыл бұрын
I drove HD wreckers for years! I seen a NP trans shafts welded in a short tow to top of hiway ramp when troopers refused to allow me time to pull shaft, trans is filled with atf. from factory. I've had fire truck mechanics who wanted rigs towed with engines off and in gear? Also a Mack required that all 4 axle shafts be pulled to prevent damage to rear 4x4 system
@adrianferrer1072 Жыл бұрын
You can also overfill the oil and drain it when you stop towing it I've done it millions of times and it works
@tracydjenkins Жыл бұрын
That's what I was told to do which now makes sense
@lanzonex4WD Жыл бұрын
Easy way 👍
@chriscusick6890 Жыл бұрын
This is someone who really knows what he's doing!!
@cheeseburgers82 Жыл бұрын
Well I'm pretty sure he learn by his mistakes he was once a know it all too and didn't remove the driveshaft and when his boss made him pay for it he now removes the driveshaft
@shanestanton54817 ай бұрын
He doesn't
@jerrylouis8930 Жыл бұрын
My 4x4 needed a tow and I questioned the driver about pulling the driveshaft. Not a month later I was in a garage on business listening to a couple question why their driveshaft had to be removed. Both answers were the same. "It'll burn up." Thank you for the video.
@906MediaProductions Жыл бұрын
I had to get my class A FWD motorhome towed once, wrecker driver shows up and looks thrilled to crawl on the ground, I tell him it's FWD and he doesn't need to pull the shaft. He looks at me like "yeah okay moron" and crawls under. Comes back out saying "okay wtf I didn't believe you because what fking RV is FWD"
@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I didnt know they made them in FWD, except for that one back in the 70s with the dual rear axles that they used in the movie Stripes. Is that the kind you have?
@InjunAli Жыл бұрын
@@EATSLEEPDRIVE2002probably a fiat ducato
@kencraig7308 Жыл бұрын
No shit 🤣
@JohnQ9089 Жыл бұрын
Some of those Dodge Promasters or similar builds are FWD
@iaial0 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnQ9089your comment made me look up that specific model and I found out that they're basically rebranded Fiat Ducato. I didn't know you Americans had these because I've always assumed they didn't make sense in your market. Here in Europe they're ubiquitous, and they're all FWD
@jnorth568 Жыл бұрын
As an experienced heavy Wrecker driver, heavy equipment, oversize, overweight Etc... there's no excuse for that, he's lucky it didn't seize!!! Still just as expensive on his company, wonder if he still has a job?
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Not sure. That happened last week the lady said that the wrecker driver had only been driving the big wrecker for about a week so who knows. You can do a lot of damage in a week😬
@thefreedomguyuk Жыл бұрын
Good point. Never thought of that. No splashing going on in neutral. Love your explanation!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching
@endtimeawakening5557 Жыл бұрын
The countershaft gears pick up the oil while under normal use. With the transmission in neutral, none of the dogs are engaged and the countershafts remain static when being backdriven with the Driveshaft. I've heard that it doesn't take long to get them glowing red with heat!
@youraverageruss Жыл бұрын
Props to my tow truck drivers keeping us mechanics in business! Keep doing what you're doing hook boy!
@realsaxual2357 Жыл бұрын
Darkness
@sultanheart Жыл бұрын
😂
@pgboyinthehouse9041 Жыл бұрын
Yeah well. Not all off us are lazy. Pulled driveshafts in the winter. During a downpour on the downhill side of Highway 88. I hate rain. Snow is cool. But rain.......rain sucks🤬
@kencraig7308 Жыл бұрын
Hook boy ? I got your Hook, Boy!!!
@juliogonzo2718 Жыл бұрын
props to bad mechanics keeping us in business too! keep using a test light to poke holes in ecm wires :)
@dandunning4409 Жыл бұрын
The first thing I always did was pull the drive shaft. I wouldn't pull an axle shaft because I didn't trust it. Many law enforcement officers expect you to just hook up and go if the truck is blocking the road and don't care if you tear up the transmission. I took the time to explain to them that towing it just a mile to a safer place will cause damage that I will not pay for so if that is what you are ordering me to do then please sign my waiver and they always allowed me time to pull a shaft.
@metalsurgeon9196 Жыл бұрын
Removing the axles works too. Knew instantly what was up when you slid that gear! Can't tell you how many times I've rebuilt those because of a hook for engine trouble turned into trans trouble too. Might just as well drop in another clutch while you're there!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@juliogonzo2718 Жыл бұрын
axles can be a pain if they have the stupid cones
@brianargo4595 Жыл бұрын
@@juliogonzo2718 fairly rare, these days. Not to say I haven't had to, but 1 in 20 or so here in the US. Besides, usually once you can get 1 moving, the rest come easy enough.
@Pain1x Жыл бұрын
@@brianargo4595until they don't and u need to bring out that tool with the spring and hammer it like it owes u money
@brianargo4595 Жыл бұрын
@@Pain1xpenetrant and an air hammer on the axle plate haven't failed me yet. Though there was the one time the plate came off and left the axle behind, that was interesting. Dunno what the heck that driver was doing, but I hope he had fun.
@buckyflex1 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to all the heavy duty tow/recovery and field mechanics that have to crawl down in the mud & filthy freezing slush to pull those drive shafts that's a deadly, thankless job y'all some tuff, hard working S.O.B.'s & y'all don't get near the credit or recognition y'all deserve I'm a driver I know what y'all do but the average public don't even know you exist.
@user-fx4qz8pt3w Жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration! Thank you for this!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@blakake Жыл бұрын
I was JUST telling my neighbor about this today and he said I was crazy lolol
@tylerfb1 Жыл бұрын
Informative. Didn’t know it didn’t turn the whole gear train.
@Alex462047 Жыл бұрын
Well, that's the only demonstration I've ever seen of that. Many thanks to you!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@erict3728 Жыл бұрын
What a great example. People like me learn best when the reason why is explained. This is what informational videos should be like
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@Seri-Katil Жыл бұрын
Wrecker driver should be the one paying that repair bill since he caused the damage
@seancounts6232 Жыл бұрын
I have towed tons. I usually drop the shaft or pull the axles. Whichever is easier at the time. If its not safe on the road, pull it at about 30mph to the next place it's safe to do what you need to
@ryanh6567 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Vary educational and simple to learn. Everyone should learn this .
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment. Glad you liked it 🙂
@ronrynearson8737 Жыл бұрын
That is very interesting never knew why they pulled the drive shaft. Thanks
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@AmericanRustWorker3369 Жыл бұрын
That really sucks to be honest, it makes it a lot harder for tow truck drivers to get the big rigs towed ,especially during the winter
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Guess this shows why a “good” wrecker company is worth the money it takes to get your vehicle towed this company was lacking
@slowpoke96Z28 Жыл бұрын
That's why they charge so dang much. If you already have to cage at least 2 brake chambers, how much longer does it take to drop a u joint and pull or tie the driveshaft up out if the way?
@donaldsmith6404 Жыл бұрын
@@slowpoke96Z28 if you tow it from the front you need to run air to it so that the air bags support the weight and don’t put the through shaft in extra bind so you don’t have to cage anything pull driveline and release the brakes
@ohn9ne Жыл бұрын
I never let my vehicles get towed on anything but a flatbed
@SealofPerfection Жыл бұрын
They don't have those for 18 wheelers
@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 Жыл бұрын
@@SealofPerfection they do its called trailers
@thefreedomguyuk Жыл бұрын
Until the day a tow in the only option 😉
@thefreedomguyuk Жыл бұрын
@@jeepsblackpowderandlights4305 The sheer logistics of getting a replacement tractor to pick up the stranded load, to then have the broken down tractor trailered away. Most choose towing.
@MrKago1 Жыл бұрын
the amount of engineering and genius that went into modern vehicles never fails to amaze me. there's an elegance to these complex gear boxes that is truly astounding.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
👍
@quadsman11 Жыл бұрын
AMEN ! Thanks for showing this ! Have spent the better part of 40 years driving heavy wreckers, and arguing with friends on why you have GOT to drop the drive-shaft, or if not possible, pull the axles ! There's no denying that kind of damage, and what caused it folks !
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and glad you liked the vid
@jonathansmith2407 Жыл бұрын
Lived up to his name if you call them wrecker drivers
@patrickdavis9566 Жыл бұрын
That's why any good tow driver pulls from the non drive of any vehicle. Flatbed any all wheel or 4 wheel drive vehicle .
@neshpro6521 Жыл бұрын
I saw a guy tow one from the rear without checking if it was in 4wd! Lol engine locked up when he got it to us! Spun it backwards!!!
@patrickdavis9566 Жыл бұрын
@@neshpro6521 my favorite was me doing a good deed, I was driving my F-350 yes that thing with a the trash never die, never works good 6.0 Duramax diesel engine with a hide a lift in the rear. So I told this guy I could help him. looked at his car, and I'm like oh oh, you have one of those Cadillacs with four wheel drive it's like this little SUV thing well not little it's pretty big. I tell him ill get you off the road. But you must make sure it's not in four-wheel drive or all wheel drive what ever that thing has, because I can see drive shafts in the front and rear. He told me I don't use all wheel drive it's not in four wheel drive so I picked up his car and I drove it not even half a block before it ripped off my straps and dropped off my tow lift. That was a fun day. Do a nice thing for somebody and they want to try to get $30,000 from you. Yeah that didn't work out well for them. Because even back then I actually had cameras.
@ryanr9792 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickdavis9566 A 6.0 Duramax diesel you say...? 🤣
@ryanr9792 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickdavis9566 Also, what vehicles are you able to disengage AWD? That's wild...
@patrickdavis9566 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanr9792 Chevy mini van and others have a button to engage and disengage AWD. But maybe I'm confusing traction control. The wrong way?
@hayzeproductions7093 Жыл бұрын
I learned a LOT from this clip. And it makes a ton of sense. Never seen the inside of an eaton transmission until now.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad you learned and thank you for watching
@robertburtcher6724 Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. It cannot be explained any simpler. 🔥
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@codyleonard9798 Жыл бұрын
I've noticed that from the trucks at work, and I never did get a chance to ask the wrecker driver why they pull them. Now I know.
@DEVIL666wtf Жыл бұрын
Iv never pulled them never all you need is neutral
@jonnywilson9117 Жыл бұрын
@@DEVIL666wtf you should delete this comment now. In a previous one, you were proven wrong. Pretty sure it's in neutral in the video and that's what caused the carnage. You've probably gotten very lucky by only towing short distances. All the heavy wrecker guys I've ever watched either always pull the driveshaft or the halfshafts. On European trucks, from what I've seen, you only have to pull the driver's side halfshaft (axle)
@charlesrodriguez7984 Жыл бұрын
@@DEVIL666wtf no matter what vehicle it is you must ALWAYS remove the driveshaft if the drive wheels are in contact with the ground.
@DEVIL666wtf Жыл бұрын
@@charlesrodriguez7984 never did it and never had a problem (other than a few vehicles) I think one was. Ford and the other was semi
@ianthompson2802 Жыл бұрын
@@DEVIL666wtf you got to be the luckiest man alive buy out all the lottery tickets man
@damonthomas8955 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I told my girlfriend: it's important that you pull the shaft.
@averyparticularsetofskills Жыл бұрын
RIIIGHT!!! Or instead of yanking the shaft she can just Turn it On and then it's definitely gonna Splash around in that hot box
@DL101ca Жыл бұрын
Did the other guy mind you pulling his shaft out of your girl though?
@damonthomas8955 Жыл бұрын
@@DL101ca that's your specialty pal.
@triggeral Жыл бұрын
You're awesome. I have always heard pull the driveshaft and and done so but you just show us what happens if you don't Thankyou!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@letsfixit251 Жыл бұрын
I approve this message. Smart thinking 👌🏾
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@forrestwright5981 Жыл бұрын
Or do what my old boss did, add a few more gallons of gear oil down the shifter hole, never seen an issue caused by temporary overfilling
@kevinrice7635 Жыл бұрын
Man of Genius.
@davidgohl429 Жыл бұрын
Will over flow once warmed up out the breather on the top cover. If over filled with lube
@forrestwright5981 Жыл бұрын
@@davidgohl429 that's why I said temporary, under a 100 mile tow won't cause the fluid to get that hot to expand
@davidgohl429 Жыл бұрын
Damage will happen. And wouldn't it be easier to pull the driveshaft then take the boot off take the stick out to pour yr lube down to save yr ass cause yr lazy
@forrestwright5981 Жыл бұрын
@@davidgohl429 damage has never happened using that method. Prove me wrong
@jefforr439 Жыл бұрын
Send the bill to the tow company.
@cockasorrus7475 Жыл бұрын
Good luck with that.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
I know right
@davidbaldwin1591 Жыл бұрын
Snoopy, Look out for the Red Baron (red hot bearing).
@kornaros96 Жыл бұрын
man and machine and nothing there in between...
@marksaunderson3042 Жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone explained it, and showed it. It never made sense to me, but now it does.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
That’s good glad you liked the vid
@timstechtube Жыл бұрын
That’s a really good explanation!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim and thanks for the comment
@joshblubaugh6050 Жыл бұрын
You gotta make sure there’s splashing in the front box.
@tdotw77 Жыл бұрын
😆👍😉
@iaial0 Жыл бұрын
Hah
@stevet5379 Жыл бұрын
You NEVER - EVER work on a vehicle on the side of a busy highway UNLESS traffic has been halted by police. Nothing will ever happen to a transmission if you have to tow the vehicle in neutral a couple of miles down the road to a safe location to remove the driveshaft. NEVER tow ANY rear wheel drive vehicle without dropping the driveshaft. Neutral does NOT stop the transmission shaft gears from turning.
@TrashPanda5150 Жыл бұрын
In a truck with a DT12 transmission, you can't tow or push it across a parking lot with the rear wheels on the ground and the engine not running, much less tow it a couple miles. You will ruin the mainshaft pilot bearing. You can't move it without disconnecting the driveline or removing all 4 axle shafts.
@stevet5379 Жыл бұрын
@@TrashPanda5150 Lift and tow from the rear then, or put it on a flatbed. Lots of ways to move a vehicle and not ruin it or take unnecessary chances with your life.
@dohc16vturbo4g63 Жыл бұрын
This short earned you a subscription! Great video for when I try to tell people about this kind of stuff and I get blown off 😅😂
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@sukhwang4554 Жыл бұрын
This is real. Thanks for showing whats actually happening. I saw a diff about to catch fire. Now wrecker drivers know this. However local tow truck drivers does not know this sometimes and too lazy to use dolly, at the end cost so much for my customers.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Your very welcome don’t forget to sub
@johngood1808 Жыл бұрын
A gearhead never stops learning!
@crazyDIYguy Жыл бұрын
What if you fill the diff and trans nearly to the top and drain it later back to a normal level, wonder if that works.
@jaredshirah6699 Жыл бұрын
Then you have to drain it and waste more fluid. Not only that if someone forgets to drain it and process to drive off all that excess fluid then prepare for a very short and very bad ride. Did it in an old truck of mine and blew the trans. Not fun
@ShivaShakur Жыл бұрын
That's a good question, I think it might work except there might need to be some space for air/displacement at the top (or leave the fill bolt out?) I was also thinking maybe of an electric aux oil pump or something
@elmerhuyard3565 Жыл бұрын
Actually super easy to disconnect drive line, in comparison..
@jaredshirah6699 Жыл бұрын
Better to take out the drive shaft than to give yourself or someone else more work in the long run
@crazyDIYguy Жыл бұрын
Hypothetically easy to disconnect the drive shaft except on a 91 f350 that's lived in NYS all it's life, took me 4 hours to remove just the front drive shaft two days ago. Definitely a nightmare.
@artemakulov1660 Жыл бұрын
As a driver, I always knew that towing a truck with the driveshaft connected or coasting with the clutch depressed would damage the transmission, but couldn't find a good explanation as to why, what exactly happens inside of the gearbox. Good stuff!
@keepingtheswineinline7126 Жыл бұрын
That's why I hook from the rear 😁
@kevind3185 Жыл бұрын
Can't always do that on a big truck. Lots of flatbeds and box trucks the stinger isn't long enough. Broke on the expressway I'm not turning a truck around, I'm hooking from the front.
@thehulkamaniabrother2.089 Жыл бұрын
How does that work with the weight in the back?? I would think that would be dangerous without the weight on the back of your truck, pushing down on your tires. Maybe your truck is too heavy to matter or something..?
@john-paulsilke893 Жыл бұрын
@@kevind3185 I’ve seen a quick snatch from the front to the exit and reset and rear pull with my truck. Damn looky-Lou’s swerving all over the place and a narrow shoulder made it necessary. Ramp wasn’t too far and the side road was way safer. Engine was left on though.
@neshpro6521 Жыл бұрын
I seen a engine locked up after we had one towed from the rear! He didn’t check if it were in 4wd!!!!
@kencraig7308 Жыл бұрын
Well that aught to get interesting having to drop the trailer, pull the tractor out and swing around opposing traffic to hook and then pull out in opposing traffic to 180 in your lane of direction, WOW, that'd be fun to watch 👀
@Uncleboob8613 Жыл бұрын
Dam straight brother, spot on!!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Carl 😀
@CanDuNietteR Жыл бұрын
thumbs up to GA!!
@peanutbutterisfu Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s no different when towing a car. I remember one of my buddies put a brand new tremec tranny in his mustang it was 4,000 bucks and he towed to to the track with a tow dolly with the back wheels on the ground. When he got up to the line at the track he took off and it wouldn’t go into gear, when it went into 3rd it spit it right back out. When I pulled it apart for him bearings were smoked, bushings smoked, completely ruined the tranny, it had one mile on it he literally installed it drove it around the block then towed to track. I told him to tow it backwards or start the engine and let it run while towing it because that’s not good for tranny but he didn’t listen he said it’s a manual transmission it’s a gear box there is no fluid pump in it like an automatic tranny, I explained to him why but he didn’t listen and he learned the hard way.
@ThatOldStoner Жыл бұрын
This is the explanation I needed. Thank you. Subscribed.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@ricksosbee3913 Жыл бұрын
Never thought of that. Thanks for the tip. Always assumed neutral was safe. Went to recovery school in the Army, did not learn that.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Rick glad this vid was helpful.👍
@roderickloudspeakerservice578 Жыл бұрын
I've seen the transmission of a bucket truck literally blow to pieces because the wrecker driver didn't pull the driveshaft. There was shrapnel and gear oil across all four lanes
@everettplummer9725 Жыл бұрын
Our chassis trucks, always arrived with the axels removed. Usually a couple being pulled by a third. So as soon as we unhooked, we installed the axels, and built the boomtrucks.
@TheHungrySlug Жыл бұрын
I've worked with diesel mechanics as a Trades Assistant and I've pulled a few drive shafts to allow for towing but never knew exactly why we did it. Now I do and can see why we pull the drive shaft. Picture is worth a million word in this case!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it sir
@russelljacob7955 Жыл бұрын
Never thought about it like that. Thanks for share!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Russell!
@oldtimefarmboy617 Жыл бұрын
If you are towing for a short distance, an alternative would be to tie the clutch pedal down so the engine is disengaged and put the transmission into the highest gear. That way the gears on all the shafts will turn and splash the gear oil around. But only for short distances. Like less than 10 miles. Or you could be looking at replacing the throw-out bearing, or the clutch pressure plate if the bearing is built into it like most big rig clutches are.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like a bad idea. Just disconnect the driveline and chain it up or pull some axles out
@allenlarabie8854 Жыл бұрын
Also make sure the axles are off the ground and transmission is in neutral so that there's play in the drives shaft. When unhooking the drive shaft under pressure it can kick upward into the cross member frame and cause Sevier injuries to your hand. I saw a guy loose his fingers. Slammed so fast into the cross member frame. Lost one finger and part of his thumb...
@SirEpifire Жыл бұрын
Some older transmissions used to have a rear based pump that ran off the output shaft. No idea why that feature was removed.
@robertheinkel6225 Жыл бұрын
Good explanation and demonstration
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching Robert
@franciscogru46439 ай бұрын
I flat towed a manual truck with front hub lockers in free position and the transfer case in 4 H. didn’t remove shafts, transfer case didn’t jam up. Theory is, as long as the front hubs are disconnected from the rear, there wont be any binding with the transfer case or tire slipping in turns. Also with all the gears moving would irrigate the bearings in the transfer case. Everyone says put the transfer case in neutral when flat towing. But that would mean the rear tires would only turn the spindle and not the gears in the TC to throw fluid around. In essence best course of action like you suggest is either remove center drive shaft, or if you are lazy like me, position the manual Transfer-case stick to limp and wiggly in 4H to keep the gears splashing.
@Faolan161 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many people in the mechanic industry are obstinate about such issues, saying this doesn't happen... These machines need oil to turn, and there's no substitute. Tow truck driver just bought a new transmission.
@This_guy007... Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I was going to tow my AWD with just the front axles removed to not waste gear oil from the trans. nope....
@lawrence17201 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video and reminder
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir thank you for watching Lawrence
@maxmoritz5065 Жыл бұрын
I did know that before from telling. But i never knew what really happens. Thank you very much for this video
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Your very welcome thanks for watching check out our channel we will be putting a lot more of this type of content out there
@egold2071 Жыл бұрын
Very cool to see all those cogs/gears n'at all spinning together.
@johnmoser2689 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff to know great explanation Justin
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you John for the comment and glad to help
@chalinp4886 Жыл бұрын
Priceless information once again👍🏽
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
We appreciate it! Thank you sir
@ronniecox109 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Hampton Ga. Hammertyme Performance Transmissions. 👍👍👍
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Hello neighbor
@kirknlorie Жыл бұрын
Good stuff from McDonough Ga!
@AC-ie2ud Жыл бұрын
I love Eaton twin countershaft transmissions. They are so fun to rebuild.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Yessir they are
@lincolnls0416 Жыл бұрын
Main reason is there is no air to push the oil. What I been told. I know when putting on the 4 wheel drive it pushes air to lock the differential. If I am wrong then a mechanic told me wrong.
@saxongreen78 Жыл бұрын
This is a kickarse tip!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rustyneuron Жыл бұрын
Yep. Anyone who would get pissed because you do your due diligence is exactly the type of person who would sue you later and make you pay for their own stupidity. "They were really pissed at me" would not be a defense. You def did the right thing. Even if no damage were to have occurred it is still good policy in the absence of any model specific knowledge or info that would specifically indicate that flat towing is ok.
@ineedtodance6032 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. I'm getting a truck that hasn't run in about 20 years, and need to move it.
@daveshangar6820 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Justin I used to do piggybacks. So I've had a lot of experience with removing and installing axle shafts and drive shafts. I always knew that you had to do it but I never knew exactly how the damage is done if you don't. Now I know. Thanks
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Your welcome Dave thank you for watching🙂👍
@neilbradley6571 Жыл бұрын
Awesome brother I love transmissions Iv done a lot of motorcycles but I never really get to see truck or car stuff its so cool to see how that worked thanks
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ED-es2qv Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I always wondered why some things can and some can’t.
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Happy to help! Thank you for watching!
@Pierobon Жыл бұрын
This is quality explanation!
@etrtruckcenterenginedrivet8918 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching pierobon
@kilogram4071 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what kind of parts was turning in the tranny or transfer case if you did not take the driveshaft out when towing I really do appreciate the internet for this info
@thesolpurpose310910 ай бұрын
We drove 2 miles about 35 mph max speed. Watching to make sure we didn't mess something up. I don't think it got red hot bc it wasn't going to fast for to long. Helpful!! 🎉
@sgt_plague7746 Жыл бұрын
Recently started subscribing to a uk based tow truck operator, not watched many of his vid but didn’t understand why he removed the driveshaft. I assume the gearboxes are for the most part similar so thanks for the simple explanation!