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This set was 10% answers 40% new questions and 50% "they really needed to explain this, but didnt for no reason at all".

I know that MTG never aspired to be Tolkien level worldbuilding and storytelling but... This is literally highschool level fan fiction LOL

I love Nahiri's denial to accept that herself naming herself Zendikar's protector ALWAYS ends badly and she keeps doing it over, and over, and over again

I really hate how short this all feels. It’s like they were phyrexian for a day or two and the invasion of the multiverse lasted like two hours. I hope we go back to 2 blocks so there’s time for the story to be fully fleshed out

MoM "oh my god, Melira had to sacrify herself to heal Nissa and Ajani! And Karn lost Venser's spark! There is a cost to healing planeswalkers and there are consequences to the story!" Aftermath "somehow Nahiri got healed. Ok then"

After just stating no one cares about her, Nahiri turns away literally the only person who came to check on her and offer help. That's some serious projecting and mental gymnastics to vilify Ajani. Someone should tell Nahiri to be careful with mental gymnastics like that. They're so extreme they could rupture a spark Ajani, the literal therapy cat dad, needs someone to talk to. Irony. He's been through more than anyone in this war and he needs time to come to terms with what they made him do

Chandra and Nissa's ending was basically the ending to the Legend of Kora

Jesus christ. If there was ever a (micro)set to convince me that Blocks needed to come back, if only for the story, it was this one.

While I don’t agree with Nahiri on much, refusing to “atone” for what she did during her time as a phyrexian is absolutely fine. After all why should a character atone for actions they essentially didn’t commit, as they didn’t have the free will to disobey. A person who is mind controlled is not responsible for the acts of their body after all. But then she immediately betrays that by judging Ajani by what he did as a phyrexian, proving just how awful of a person she is, never change Nahiri, never change.

Imagine the reaction of Zendikar denizens to this story. - Zendikar now has a protector that will defend us from planeswalker meddling! - YAY!!!! - .. and its Nahiri. - oh.... we're totally screwed.

I love how you two struggle to make sense of this mess and manage to deliver ... something? Great Work!

wish we got some sarkhan lore! he looks so satisfied/content in the art

I remember when i started MtG with Urza saga (i stopped to play at Nemesis), the old Phyrexia was around for several blocs story wise and right from the get go, you knew that it was no jokes. New Phyrexia was barely noticeable until "All will be one" and when it finally get serious with March of the machine, its invasion ended right when it started in a single expansion. I would have liked to know if the New Phyrexia was set to last longer but cut down by the higher up, because this was the setting for an entire expansion per plane invaded, it could have lasted longer than the Old Phyrexia war while being more impactful. No really, i don't think that the level of the writers has decreased so much that what we got was the original plan for the New Phyrexia invasion.

Now that the story "concluded" I think that this whole phyrexian invasion was very poorly executed. It could have been so much more, it could have been several sets as each plane fought back and won (or not) using different strategies. Even if the phyrexians were truly defeated, realmbreaker could have become a permanent bridge among planes for those brave enough to brave its branches through the blind eternities. New Mirrodin could have become the heart of the multiverse, a planar crossroads. Problems could leak from one plane to the next as the citizens realized they were now part of a new, conected, multiverse. And that is just one idea I had in 5 minutes. But no, back to the status quo, with stories focused on the same basic idea "plane has a problem, planeswalkers fix it".

In the Minneapolis convention, they went over the story behind Sarkhan and Narset on Tarkir- Narset has somehow realised Sarkhan has meddled with the timelines on her plane. I assumed she’d gotten a written story. Is this really all there is?

Interesting that both aftermath stories are about two former walkers from zendikar. Guess we'll be back there before long again.

I never liked Nahiri. If she isn’t trying to get revenge on Sorin she’s too mush convincing herself only she is actually capable of saving Zendikar. I have no problem with Lukka being dead, but Tamiyo really hurts me.

Feels kinda cheap to rip a bunch of sparks out and then give the multiverse portals anyone can walk through.

I love how Nahiri is becoming more and more like Sorin.

I really REALLY miss the booklets that came in fat packs that had the stories.

I really think MoM should've been 3 sets. Set one would be like shadows, hiding the phyrexian symbol around the place and maybe some planeswalkers readying some planes for the invasion. Set two is where they actually invade and most of the planes we see are losing and getting compleated with maybe a plane here or there resisting but at great cost. Set three is where Elspeth arrives all suped up and helps maybe boost Halo into being a cure and uses it do destroy the invading phyrexians, maybe toss in that Zalphyr plane switching in too. This is just whipped up do theres probably plenty of this wrong with this idea lol.

The MTG Wiki presents a list of a dozen of Planeswalkers desparked after March of the Machine, including among others Teferi himself and the Kenrith twins.

I’m a little saddened that there is no new information on what happened to New Phyrexia. I love my boy Urabrask, so I’m continuing to blindly hold out hope that he’s alive and could perhaps lead the phyrexians still on the plane to a slightly less overwhelmingly hostile existence.

As much as I think it's a contrivance to have any of the planeswalkers survive, I do think it's kind of baffling that Tamiyo wasn't one of them. Considering she's the one Emrakul used to stick herself into Innistrad's moon you'd think she'd be important enough to keep around. I suppose Jace will be there (they're not gonna kill off Jace let's be real) but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

With the story of March of the Machine I was hoping to see if anything would affect the mediation plane where Nicol Bolas is imprisoned. Thought that would be cool.

Awww the Gruulfriends are getting comfy together. Also ffs someone get Nahiri some therapy,

I really, really don't like Nahiri. Mostly, I can't get over the fact that she didn't feel any remorse over what she subjected Innistrad to. But also, this story, Ajani was reaching out to her, and she could only see him as a threat.

I wonder if Nahiri's new anti-planeswalker mentality will fester, leading her to be the next big villain. Maybe she stabilizes the multiverse portals that are apparently popping up now with her lithomancer powers to go on a crusade.

I get that Nahiri is a bit paranoid. But all of it just feels like a continuation of the character's bad writing. Additionally the Spark in a box thing feels like such a contrivance.

13:25 ... so REALLY just the two compleated planeswalkers we knew about THAT GOT THEMSELVES SOME CARDS from the March of the Machine story, ... b/c Tibalt was compleated but never got his card, which I know most people don't care about but my partner's favorite planeswalker is Tibalt and their favorite thing in Magic is the Phyrexians, so the idea that we were going to get a Compleated Tibalt card was fuel for so much hype and the fact that we haven't gotten one is a crime. I know we can still get some more cards in the future that are about characters/events from the past, but to be perfectly honest for me personally the fact that we didn't get more compleated planeswalkers and cards for them, enough to "compleat" either a 10 card two-color cycle or a 15 card one-&-two-color cycle of the "Compleated Planswalkers," is very much upsetting me about the outcome of these last few sets. Don't get me wrong, March of the Machine is probably my favorite set of all time from a "cracking some packs and playing the cards" point of view, it is really fun to both open and play! But taking in the other sets that connect to this one, the outcome of what we were given did not fully meet my expectations, both in terms of narrative and card product. I'd give WotC a passing grade, but they're only passing b/c of everything that is not their ending including half of this epilogue. I like the idea of some planeswalkers losing their sparks and I like that all the planes are more connected now for non-planeswalkers to now travel between the planes, and in mentioning this, I know of someone who actually predicted that WotC was going to somehow shift the focus of their future stories away from the planeswalkers and more onto the legendary creatures b/c of the Commander format, so I guess that person was right and this is their way of doing it. But that being said, it is hard to ignore the contradiction filled outcome that we have gotten from this. It really makes me wish to know how they write their story and if they proof-read each or fact check others' works. Notice it is not "how" but "if," that's how you know we're concerned. Anyway, that's all to say 1) I hope WotC eventually asks for Ryan and others to help proof read their story before they publish it to their online story site so that he and hopefully others could critique and fact check their shit, kind of how they got external comedy writers to help with the flavor text on the Unfinity set. And 2) I have a message to Wizards: "HEY! Give us 8 more Compleated Planewalkers you cowards! Enough to Compleat the 15 card Mono- and Two-Color cycles! And make Tibalt one of them! Either the Mono-Red or Black-Red one!" Probably gunna send this to Gavin Verhey where ever I can, hahaha.

Nahiri is my second favorite character in Magic (behind Thalia) and while this story IS really sad and frustrating for her characterization, I think it IS in character for her to act like this. Especially since she's constantly being betrayed or opposed by other planeswalkers, so her having a hair trigger after this and jumping to the wrong conclusions makes sense. That being said, it also felt like a situation where if these two characters could sit down and have a dang conversation with each other like actual thinking beings, this whole thing could have been avoided. Poor Nahiri. Hope she gets a better story next time around.

I can’t believe I barely came across this channel, super happy I did! Subscribed. Quality content! Love the lore videos.

I didn't know how much I neeed this video until I finished it. Thank you Ryan and Nicole!

Frustratingly small wrap up stories but beautifully told. Thank you!

Sorin feeling a distinctive but familiar shiver run down his spine in Innistrad.

Loved this viewpoint of the stories- awesome video!

Thanks for letting me know that you covered Ajani.

I.... Still think it's stupid that Nahiri assumed Ajani was there to kill her, but I can kinda understand because of Sorin. That said I don't mind a "No More Planeswalkers" storyline. Sounds actually kinda fun. I still think Zendikar itself could have healed Nahiri, needing a new champion with Omnath being Compleated. I'm hoping Nixilous took over the Maestro. Their leaders been gone the longest and he'd fit into their color scheme already

Everyone is really expecting way too much from Nahiri. It's a wonder she's even mobile. She spent centuries guarding the eldrazi seal on zendikar in relative solitude until she was driven insane by watching everyone she meets grow old and die. She went so far as to cocoon herself so she could hibernate until the alarm signaled. When it did and her allies didn't appear, she dealt with the threat and went in search of Sorin concerned for his safety. On Innistrad he casually explains that the Helvault blocked the signal and that he couldn't be concerned with her plane because he needed to protect his and said to find Ugin. Betrayed by her mentor, and one of the only people she can even vaguely relate to that she knows in the multiverse, she lashed out and Avacyn locked her in the Helvault. For 6000 years. For 6000 years she was tortured by demons, marinated on Sorin's betrayal, and worried that if she ever got out her entire plane would be gone. And you know what? When she got out that's exactly what was happening. She planeswalked to Zendikar and found the Eldrazi devouring her world. In addition, she didn't have the godlike pre-mending powers she once did. None of us can imagine the anguish and impotence. So it's not like she's had time to work through any of this. Her immediate thought was vengeance on Sorin and Innistrad. I mean, while Innistrad was basically innocent, she's absolutely unhinged by now and she was also tortured on that plane for 6000 years so why should she care about it? Then, after finally getting some modicum of revenge on Sorin and trapping him like he trapped her, Sorin is freed by Bolas when he teleports them both to Ravnica. Remember, Nahiri's previous experience with an elder dragon was that he didn't fucking show up and her plane was eaten so now another one took the one of the only things she cares about (her vengeance) away. I'm not sure how long after that she got compleated, but then to add insult to injury she's forced to attack her home twhose defense led to all of her pain? She's forced to betray herself. For 6000 years she's known nothing but pain and betrayal and you want her to trust these INFANTS she's just met? People she can't possibly relate to while the one person she can maybe relate to in teh universe she fucking hates? Nah. She has only legitimate reasons for being the way she is, and while that leaves her the villain in everyone else's stories, expecting better of her is crazier than she is.

Nahiri's characterization is just... Sad. I'm still rooting for her redemption.

Bound to be a tense meet up on Zendikar !

Imagine if Quintorius was among those who lost their spark: Freshly of Plane for the first time and now stuck with noway to leave, I'm only joking naturally, that would make no sense. My first theory what Wizards was gona do regarding which walkers lost their sparks was that all pre mending planeswalkers would lose theirs, but nissa already disproves that.

The issue with not killing planeswalkers and leaving them hanging around is that it leaves next to no room for cool new planeswalkers. I love Ajani as much as the next guy, but we've had Ajani aplenty. Where is that elephant guy in this story? Why couldn't we get something like a reformed Phyrexian to become a new planeswalker? Anyway... you are a great messenger even when the message itself is rather bland. I love your format and enthusiasm. So I finally subscribed. _Yes, it took a while_

Nissa: - struggles to find her place in the multiverse - wants to come home - wants to be able to move on from the horrors she inflicted Nahiri: - A fucking idiot - If someone ever caves her fuckin' head in with a bottle or something idk the entire multiverse probably will suck them off or something for finally fixing that one

Been looking forward to this video!

Nahiri: Too angry to die, and too angry to stay completed.

I absolutely agree on the thematic appropriateness of using these two characters to highlight some of the responses toward the catastrophic changes that we've been through, but I do wish that there had been a Tezzeret story as well, because...I mean, come on. We know how he's going to react. He's going to try and find some way to use this to his advantage, because he's the closest thing to a pure villain we've got that isn't asleep in some big floating metal ball or smothered in Ugin in the plane of ultimate boringness. Crisis, opportunity - all that mess. I'm also a little bit shocked that they actually managed to limit themselves just to telling thematically contextual stories this time and not dropping ship bait. We know that we're going to end up on Ixalan shortly (a plane relevant to two walkers people have some concern about) and it would have been trivially easy to write a POV passage for some unknown soul waking up on a beach. I'll reserve my congratulations until I find out what they actually intend to do, but I do admire their restraint. One thing that I do find ironic in that Alanis kind of way is how high and mighty Nahiri has decided to be about planeswalkers wrecking shop in other peoples' houses. She is, after all, the one who tried to do a genocide because she got ghosted by a dude, but when the Eldrazi inevitably return...I mean, they came to Zendikar for a reason, and she couldn't beat them by herself then. Considering the practical circumstances, it looks like the Wizards team is making a pretty clear statement about the way to react to disastrous personal change - let in rather than push out. Whether she likes it or not, Nahiri is going to have to learn to work with other beings of enormous power - probably planeswalkers - when the bill inevitably comes due for that whole Eldrazi business (let's not forget Ugin's warning, which Jace so happily ignored - killing those two titans with fire might have some consequences, particularly now that the Blind Eternities have some holes punched in them). Nahiri has been a character in search of a redemption arc ever since she first set out to murder a bunch of innocents in an act of petty vengeance, so it's interesting to see her take the heel turn yet again and place herself in an antagonistic position toward what we all know is going to have to happen at some point so long as this story is being told.

nothing sums this "set" more neatly than smalltime lorthos creator Loreseeker "Its like a multi layer FAILURE CAKE"

last time I went through something difficult, I relied on others for advice. I was struggling with my study and eventually decided to switch studies

Can't wait the next video, I want to hear about every card! Also, still no Jayce news?

3:50 and my theory is connected with New Phyrexia and Dominaria planes changing places and disturbing flow in the Multiverse.

I really hope the events of March of the Machine lead into the return of Bolas. With the holes punched in the Blind Eternities and the mysterious portal that appeared, it's all adding up in a way that could mean the God-Pharaoh is coming back, which I think would be badass honestly

Slightly off topic, but Vorinklex is alive

Great video. Seems the bbeg in MTG is gravity and its penchant for breaking plot devices.

Great recapitulation.

Thanks for the story

I think that we can all agree on one point : with the planes now ~slightly~ connected, someone needs to bring Eldrazis to Kamigawa so we can have our Neon Genesis Evangelion set

[Rise of Skywalker voice] somehow, Nahiri has survived

mtg stories feel like they're created in a meeting room where everybody pats each other on the back

"Chandra and Nissa dive into a hole" subtle

I’m surprised you didn’t go over the brief mention of them settling that crap of “sorry Nissa, I’m not gay, I like men” thing from the horrid WAR novel. For those who don’t know, Chandra says that she did love Gideon in that way, her love for Nissa evolved and caused her to realize that she loves Nissa that way too but also differently and she wants to explore those feelings and she just needed time to sort through them. Which, honestly? I thought it was an interesting and realistic way of dealing with that since plenty of people go through a similar thing and I’m happy they finally had Nissa and Chandra get together and it’s cute. Not as good as Saheeli and Huatli simply by virtue of the fact that they made robo-dinos together so therefore they are superior to any other couple but still

MoM is where i wish Commodore Guff would take one look at it, remark on how it appears written by a toddler, and then reweites the future with his meta narrative power for something better and more entertaining.

FUCKING HELL YEAH NEW MAGIC ARCANUM. I'm holed up sick with flu and nurturing a wrist fracture. This made my day! Thanks guys!

This was an interesting set of stories. Over all I loved the characterization and writing, not having all the answers makes sense for Nissa, but was a bit frustrating for Nahiri. What it really left me with though was wanting more. Only two stories for the fifty cards depicting at least 10 despsparked walkers and we only focus on two of them? Especially with some of them being one we haven't heard from in a long time like Sarkhan/ Narset, Calix, etc. I just wish we'd gotten at least a bit of their perspective since they weren't present in the past set.

What do you think about the story facts that LRR gave recently (that were all given to them by the lead for Magic's story, so all should be canon)? The two important and fully new bits of info: The Wanderer lost her spark, but it's actually VERY happy about this fact and is taking time to explore Kamigawa. Light-Paws is still acting as her regent on the throne. Obby Nix was fully intending on staying out of the phyrexian invasion, and just hid out on New Capenna to let it ride out. He was actually surprised that the phyrexians lost, and was even more surprised (and very angy >:[ ) that he lost his ability to Planeswalk AGAIN. He's currently planning to make use of the power vacuum left by basically the entirety of the Maestros dying off. Oh and also they aren't entirely convinced that Vorinclex is dead dead, since he is apparently a "very powerful flesh mage" but all the other praetors are super dead.

So, in a nutshell, Nahiri is still cray-cray. Great. Clearly, some things in Magic's story never change. lol

March of the Machine: Aftermath (Zendikar edition). Can't wait for the rest of the sets to make up the full set, right WoTC?.. Right?

I wasn't satisfied with how MoM plot turned out. They pulled the "off-screen death of unknown characters" card like they did in War of the Spark. However, as Nahiri's store suggests, planeswalkers now could lose their sparks if they handle it recklessly, which, for me, is interesting plot worth exploring and I'd like to see new planeswalkers gaining spark as well as older lose their sparks.

Ajani: Nahiri i need your help. Nahiri: no

Nahiri is pretty interesting as a villain/antagonist/fuck-up with her Boros identity.

sothey baited us that nissa and chandra was a thing, then said it wasnt,just to backpedal and say it was planned all along... nice consistency Wotc

Great channel. Where is the best place to get the books on magic?I would like to start at the beginning

I was sure quintorious would still be a planeswalker since it just happened but I think it would be really interesting if he was completely trapped somewhere.

Ways to lose your godly powers in MtG: - Get corrupted by a massive multiverse-spanning empire of machine theologists and have your mind get messed up by the cognitive dissonance you feel after being forgiven by the friends you betrayed against your will. - "Oops I fell in a hole" Absolutely no difference in impact or storytelling there WotC, another banger story for a banger character that absolutely nobody hates like Nahiri.

Have we ever seen Planeswalkers summon other planeswalkers in the canon? This would solve most of our multiverse travel logstics problems.

It feels like such a joke that we got Nissa and Chandra getting the Legend Of Korra ending on a card when they have kissed twice now in these stories and there is not even an alt art where they kiss despite how many different versions of Open The Way there is.

A house is built with the strength of all its timbers. There no singular pillar that holds the house

My personal theory is that this "mass despark" is an excuse to turn popular planeswalkers into commanders. Because apparently that's easier than just saying "all planeswalkers can be commanders now!". I mean, you can do it in Arena already, why not in paper MTG?

How is it that I remember War of the Spark as being underwhelming and then this somehow tops that in almost every way.

WotC has been really impressive at making all these places in the multiverse feel really unimportant in this whole "multiverse invasion" thing. While these stories are fine, good honestly, It's insane to me that the Aftermath focuses almost solely on the (now former) planeswalkers, and only barely hints at things going on in all the places that were invaded, places were probably not gonna see and return to for years. Theroes's patheon got chunk'd? Best we can do is a card that suggest Elspeth might be deified. Strixhaven is in shambles and Quintorius's spark ignited? No hint where he is, best we get is a card suggesting theyre rebuilding fine. Vraska's story heavily implies the Golgari were almost entirely converted, and thus are now dead. One of the 10 Guilds of Ravnica, reduced to almost nothing, maybe even just outright gone. No follow up on that. Insane.

There should have been a story for each of the planeswalkers in aftermath. Like what are Kiora, Sarkhan, Narset, Calix, Samut and Ob Nixilis doing with their plane locked existences now. Or the non former walkers like Niv, Nashi, Jirina and Danitha and how they are getting accustomed to their new lives.

After almost 10 years of existance, maybe more if you count Stoneforge Mystic, Nahiri never changes. She's still the same and nothing has changed about her. Nahiri is like Sorin but even less important and popular because at least Sorin changes somewhat and is carried by Innistrad's great reputation. The way Nahiri's treated is just sad but that's with everything in magic nowadays.

Maybe Nissa can ask Sorin for some bad Kor jokes she can yell out to piss Nahiri off while they do battle in the future.

My personal theory is the Roil played a role in uncompleating Nahiri. Going by the flavor text of Rugged Highlands, I'm willing to bet it factored in cleansing her once the oil became inert.

“Over reacting to perceived slights.” You mean like how she over reacted to Sorin not answering her call, because his creation blocked the signal? I think destroying her own spark by mistake was a bit of karma coming to bite her ass.

Personally I would have wanted more small stories to show up in this set. Maybe something like the large battle scenes in MOM. Just spend a few short paragraphs on one plane to see how things are going, then switch to another plane to see how they are dealing with it. For example, show the people of Kaldheim still fighting per the norm, but if the battle unearths remains from the phyrexian invasion, everyone stops to move the battle elsewhere or rebury those they have lost. Maybe show inventors on Kaladesh playing around with things to get rid of phyresis using aether. Show how the Golgari are dealing with what happened during the invasion. And in doing all these little snippets of atory, you could then hint at some of the planeswalkers who lost thier spark, like saying "oh that guy over there helping with repairs looks vaugely like Sarkhan." What we have now is just too little for the answers we needed after MOM.

As a vorthos player this entire series of sets has been... frustrating. We have so many things happen in the Phyrexian saga and almost none of this sticks! We don't even have a clear answer about how sparks work consistently

Besides New Phyrexia and Zhalfir, something else that got switched by Realmbreaker's branches is Nissa's and Sorin's roles vis a vis Nahiri.

I'm probably remembering this incorrectly, as I was pretty young when this set came out, but wasn't there an earlier storyline that involved random portals opening everywhere and various Planeswalkers had to work together to close them? Planar Chaos, I think?

I've always meant to ask since I started watching these, but what is the outro music you use? There isn't a link to someone else's stuff so did you (the channel) come up with it yourselves?

im going to predict "magic origin 2024" a flashback to march of the machine to see 5 characters become planeswalkers including quintourus

There's a lot stuff that's...left to be desired about this set's lore; but I think the Omenpaths are giving me the most mixed thoughts. On the one hand, they seem like they'll be great additions to revisit sets, allowing Legendary creatures of other planes to explore established locations the upcoming Eldraine & Ixalan sets; or even or see established setting react to each other & interact, like if we got a Theros vs Kaldheim set. On the other hand, I worry that their misuse could make new planes feel even more one-note and 'plane of hats'-y than we've been getting already. For example; New Capenna already felt a bit unexplored & one note, but I have to image a chunk of it's set being taken up by Innistrad while iconic characters from Dominaria or Ravnica take up Legendary creature slots wouldn't have helped. So all in all, this seems great for revisit sets; I just hope they either majorly tone Omenpath stuff down for new planes, or they just stop being a thing by the time we see our next new major plane.

Rapidly retconning ajani having gold metalic flesh for some reason, despite that being metal af.

Why do I ge notifications like a week later, of a video I've already watched days ago?

So do we travel back next year to Zendikar? I mean Nissa, Chandra and Nahiri will perfectly fit with the stories. Also the upcoming product of CM shows us a new Eldrazi (titan?), with all that. We all root for these slimy Eldrazi friends. After all this years. At least I do! I'd love some story around the bffs/lovers and Nahiri. Hopefully Eldrazi soon.

Here me out…Ajani takes Naheri’s spark and planeswalkes to Dominaria. There, in his quest to make things right, he and others salvage the Weatherlight and fuse it with Naheri’s spark now making it able to traverse the multiverse once more.

Nahiri is an ancient being, who with Sorin and Ugin trapped the eldrazi thousands of years ago. And now she's just a normal person who acts the same way as the rest of the Gatewatch. Such a shame.

Woot!!!

The sparks dont bother me but I really wish they had to keep some of their cyborg features. Did the phyrexians use plug and play parts so the walkers could just unplug everything when they felt like not being compleated anymore?