What happens when a Triathlete tries a Criterium

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@TriathlonDan Жыл бұрын

This has honestly made my day, thanks so much guys. I’ll have to send in some more footage of me getting my head kicked in as I moved up categories 😬🤟

@BigBrownMonke Жыл бұрын

Great Effort! 👌🤘

@theupperechelon7634 Жыл бұрын

Drafting is allowed, Dan... (insane power - good work)

@bertonabike6991 Жыл бұрын

Awesome to get your footage on here dan 👏

@gabedellar588 Жыл бұрын

Wow, nice one Dan getting this here

@tewaewae Жыл бұрын

thanks for sending it in.

@davidnicholson6680 Жыл бұрын

370 for 35 mins is nuts.

@scotjaworski6628 Жыл бұрын

Not for nothing, but it looked like he was also handling the corners pretty well for a first time crit dude. Very impressive.

@patrickcasados7461 Жыл бұрын

First time crit maybe but not first time on racing a bike. He is a triathlete after all.

@Gabrielle4870 Жыл бұрын

It is a valid comment. My experience with triathletes entering crits has been horrible. I stay away from them until they've learned how to corner and race around other people.

@NorCalCycling Жыл бұрын

Agreed!! He’s gotta work on strategy and then look out bc dan will be racking up the wins

@yousifalhajery Жыл бұрын

Horrible racing tactics, yet extremely fun watching Dan act like a boss. I would love to see more of Dan using his power profile with some good tactics

@ProWeAreSo Жыл бұрын

I mean idk, 2nd place in a Crit is pretty insane for just going full gas the whole time... Also huge power move to attack the guy he broke away with lol

@donadams5094 Жыл бұрын

I don’t race, just a casual cyclist, but love to watch racing. Really and enjoy and learn from this channel.

@mgrization Жыл бұрын

Thats me every time: Hey im gonna hide in the bunch and see what happens. Legs: THE F*CK WE ARE!!!! LEEEEEEEERRRROOOYYY JENKINS...

@chrisfoglesong2017 Жыл бұрын

“Leeerroyyy Jenkkkins” is the new “Allez, allez, allez” 😂

@zachh7796 Жыл бұрын

Full Leeroy at 0:47 🤣

@sullivanrory1 Жыл бұрын

“Drafting is allowed” 😂😂

@manny2ndamendment246 Жыл бұрын

I can average about 12 mph on my trek marlin 4.

@trev-trev Жыл бұрын

Throw some gp5000s on that bad baby lol

@joecool2678 Жыл бұрын

Coach: "So what you want to do is go hard for a lap and a half, then settle in and mark your competition. Take mental notes and cover attacks. Share work with others, steady rotation pacelines, don't forget to fuel. Triathlon Dan: "Go 100% full gas from gun to checkered flag? Gotcha!"

@jason200912 11 ай бұрын

Got it coach. No need to say it twice LEEEEERRRROOOOOOY JENNNNNNKIINNNNNNNNNNNNS

@johnshaft5613 Жыл бұрын

Some of Dan's speed readouts HAD to be wonky....like maintaining 35 MPH solo into a headwind. If not, he might as well skip the next steps and take on the Tour De France. Definitely impressive regardless.

@ChromeLuxx Жыл бұрын

Yeah, don’t remember the 4/5s holding that.

@johnshaft5613 Жыл бұрын

@@ChromeLuxx Lance Armstrong at his drugged up best couldn't hold that.

@jgrefrath Жыл бұрын

Dan.. Unleash Hell, when the time is right. The start of the race is never the right time. Insightful video as always! I feel sorry for anyone racing against Dan, even moreso when Dan gets more experienced, skilled, and patient in crits.

@filmaynard Жыл бұрын

Sometimes the start is the right time!

@DrewKime Жыл бұрын

That looks like a pretty narrow course. You could easily get stuck behind a group while the winning break gets away. If I had Dan's power I'd want to get out in front of the pack right from the gun too, cyclocross style.

@l.d.t.6327 Жыл бұрын

Start of the race is often the time it splits. Agree it isn't often the winning move, but you have to be in front or you could end up in a second or third group with awesome legs but nothing to be raced for.

@jason200912 11 ай бұрын

Philip Maynard The start only works if you have a team or temporary allies willing to alternate draft with you. Almost everyone will let you waste your energy and just leech the draft

@naikshibabrat Жыл бұрын

It's not unusual for a trained athlete to show up to a race for the first time and demolish the field. I've seen this happen at collegiate races when triathletes from the same university showed up to the home race to race C or D categories and went solo from the flag drop. They also trained with us on Wednesday worlds, so they were just as strong as A or B riders. Still, and not to sound more discouraging, those power numbers and crit racing on a windy day are quite impressive. The weekly race series in Britain is fun!

@stevehartwell1861 Жыл бұрын

Yes, had a high level cross country runner get on a bike for a 40 minute crit. He wasn't fast, turned like a duck yet we couldn't maintain his remaining power. Guy got caught out in the final sprint and finished 5 of 40. Said he'd never do it again, too scary.

@leeomurchu1213 Жыл бұрын

A great to see some footage of a guy I follow. His bread and butter is the bike the man's a beast on it so not surprised at this at all.

@levyyy3774 Жыл бұрын

bro is crazy got 2nd while pulling 90 percent of the race

@willhartley2696 Жыл бұрын

Just for info - cat 4 crits like this one are the EASIEST crits we have in England. There is no cat 5. For someone trying to get into crit racing there are ridiculously high barriers to entry fitness wise!!! My FTP of 240 got me dropped after 1 lap in the last crit I did

@marklobusta3986 Жыл бұрын

This race video made me want to train more! Thankyou dan and thankyou norcal!

@HeavensentGojo Жыл бұрын

Im looking forward to this man's races

@Alan_Hans__ Жыл бұрын

That was awesome to see. Look forward to seeing him hitting Alviso and lapping the field. Some more experience and instead of dropping 1-2s at each corner on those behind I expect he'll be going solo yolo the whole time. He's got the legs and the pumper to whitewash the field.

@_cpdchua Жыл бұрын

A classic example from Jeff "position beats power". But all in all, what a beast! Congrats mate!

@ChrisOstberg Жыл бұрын

I was laughing at the HULK SMASH tactics, and it all worked out! Great job Dan.

@jonathanwise47 Жыл бұрын

As a triathlete of 8 years, I'm learning to stay in the draft. Also trying to figure out when I should go because I don't have an impressive sprint.

@user-yn5sk5ru5g Жыл бұрын

Dan should do cyclocross with those starts 👌 I start that way too, just for fun. Spd pedals 😉👌

@kennethward9530 Жыл бұрын

Once upon a time I had an experience where a magazine writer/nationally ranked triathlete jumped in the Cat IV field on a weekend stage race (I'm talking about you Tom D.). He didn't bury us too bad in the TT, but jumped with three laps to go in the afternoon crit and rode away from the field. (late 80's when we had 90+ riders in Cat IV races) We marked him on the road race next day so he couldn't get away, but neither could anyone else. A strong athlete is a strong athlete, and if they race their strengths & train their weaknesses, they will do well. Fortunately for the rest of that season's racing, USCF mercifully quickly upgraded him to III then II.

@chicagotat2 11 ай бұрын

Great commentary 👌

@coolguy77ize1 Жыл бұрын

Dylan Johnson would approve of these crit tactics.

@AustinIsTheGreatests Жыл бұрын

omg this footage is so crisp and HD

@jk2302 Жыл бұрын

Beast. Love it, good for him!

@SnappyWasHere Жыл бұрын

I like this race. Kept the pace high, no noodling like usual cat 4 races.

@seahorserider33 10 ай бұрын

Haha WHAT a start :D No messing around

@torontocycling Жыл бұрын

Jeff, in many Triathlon races, drafting is legal, i.e., Sprint Triathlon (20 km bike) and Olympic distance Triathlon (40 km bike),so short distance triathletes know how to draft mostly.

@bennymozzarella1605 Жыл бұрын

I really had to pause this video when I heard WHAT IN THE ZWIFT 🤣 that had me dead

@kennano2732 Жыл бұрын

This guy is unhinged! Crazy power!

@ProfeTa6 Жыл бұрын

For an endurance athlete, triathlete or not, power peaks are a non-issue because recovery is quick enough. Plenty of shots available. Problems start if you're sustaining a high power for a long time. Basically they need to know what power is sustainable and keep it at that level with a few peaks and valleys rather than keep it constant above sustainable.

@crailwah Жыл бұрын

Cool course

@MikeStarr1000 Жыл бұрын

that coned off section looks nuts, how many head-ons just missed out there??

@Mikeatcitycycle Жыл бұрын

Powerful rider to be certain.

@toshman696969 Жыл бұрын

as someone that raced triathlons and moved to crit racing, it took a while. power is not the issue, its the technical ability. cycling is so different to triathlon. triathlon is just a time trial with 3 sports, there is not racing. cycling is actual racing. why i switched after 30 or so races it became boring.

@Second247 Жыл бұрын

Aren't there sprint- and olympicdistances which are acutally very close to crit. Drafting allowed and you have to race it like crits.

@morosis82 Жыл бұрын

@@Second247 there is one series, ITU I think, that allow drafting. Sprint distance can be more fun even with no drafting in that regard because there are just more people around as the race is much shorter. It's not unusual in a half or iron distance event to be out there sort of on your own for a reasonable distance.

@tommasopuccini3688 Жыл бұрын

@@morosis82 ITU doesn't exist anymore, now called World Triathlon, and is reserved for elite racing. Local draft legal races don't really exist in triathlon because most athletes aren't technically proficient, and there's big gaps between people out of the water. I've done WT races and they are actual racing, because everyone is strong in all 3 disciplines so you generally have large groups on the bike

@tlpianga Жыл бұрын

This guy was me when I started riding this dam RB 😃

@mikelboudica5389 Жыл бұрын

Professional triathlete? They know how to ride in groups, the train in road bikes and the olympics triathlon you are allowed to draft.. I think he knew he was sandbagging and did the right thing, push everyone. I actually liked how he raced given he is sandbagging. If he is just a random triathlete man, he was pro watts, and still is sandbagging.

@TheUltimateULTRA Жыл бұрын

not a pro, check out his channel

@martinmckowen1588 Жыл бұрын

As a MTB rider the first time I saw a Crit start I thought it must have been a warm up lap

@bertonabike6991 Жыл бұрын

Pick the footage where Dan wins, Norcal. It's brilliant

@JustAdelaideRacing Жыл бұрын

@1:36 I didn't realise Caleb Ewan was racing local crits these days!

@BioStuff415 Жыл бұрын

no doubt, even among road racers, cries are a special. A 1/2 mile course with 4 or 6 turns... must be at the front, and cab corner to an extreme. yea, use the weak guy until he cracks. Dan's a beast.

@vial1x870 Жыл бұрын

I know I didn’t just see him spike up to 53-54 mph the last 300 meters of the race😦

@neelsahay5227 Жыл бұрын

that course looks fun as fuqqqqq

@HugoHocknell Жыл бұрын

Ripped everyone a new one. But.... horrific tactics!

@rickdoehler502 6 ай бұрын

What category was this?

@psy-v Жыл бұрын

Never done a crit but... This gives me confidence that I would be a decent crit racer..my peak is 1600+ and I can sustain around 500w for a few minutes. Thoughts?

@superstrada6847 Жыл бұрын

Gave the race away. Live and learn (race and learn).

@amranSK55 Жыл бұрын

Dan is the man !!!

@DavidFritzIII Жыл бұрын

Answer to the question in the title: he (or she) goes for a run after...

@ricardor890 Жыл бұрын

Hey People What is necessary to be able to display the stats on the screen

@Ultegra10SPD Жыл бұрын

Eat off other people's plate. -U10

@darklyte24 Жыл бұрын

Around the 12:20 mark his speed spiked to 56 mph... 😆 strong rider for sure

@DM-jh5rs Жыл бұрын

textbook sandbagger lol

@pitsboi Жыл бұрын

83kph sprint? is it flat? damn thats amazing

@IsaacRC Жыл бұрын

Metal meets bluegrass

@jason200912 11 ай бұрын

The hell did Dan blast everything solo for though lol. It would work if he at least he had a tt bike and not a regular bike

@zineelabidineghafiri4673 Жыл бұрын

Suspect 80km/h in the final, 🙄 may be a hidden peter sagan on him, in his glorious time.

@tobiasmadero2727 Жыл бұрын

After seeing this video i think im gonna try Traithlon too 😅

@NorCalCycling Жыл бұрын

😂

@jerryrobran2392 Жыл бұрын

Dan Dan Dan

@aleq Жыл бұрын

Is 370NP for 35min within the range of Cat4 power?

@NG-xn1jj Жыл бұрын

Cat 4 power encompasses an extremely wide range because everyone has to move through Cat 4 to move up categories. So you have folks there with Cat 1 or 2 power who just don’t have enough upgrade points yet.

@onlyfoolriding8223 Жыл бұрын

No, I don't think so. That could be Cat1 power.

@billkallas1762 Жыл бұрын

This guy must have some experience with riding in packs.

@user-nz2yr1if3g Жыл бұрын

how is he moving almost 110k bro what

@kidsafe Жыл бұрын

Not a good sign when the course has wind turbines near it. Looking at you Patterson Pass.

@kostiantynsavostin3559 Жыл бұрын

it looks like Cat1 is racing against cat 4-5 riders..

@alexdmh01 Жыл бұрын

Curborough sprint course. Such an unpleasant circuit!

@donny1098 Жыл бұрын

I want to be like Dan when I grow up

@TheFitDragon Жыл бұрын

ya triathletes wanna feel the burn the entire race, cycling races don't offer that unless you breakaway

@TheBestAround08 Жыл бұрын

200m to go, 52 mph? I don’t think so. Makes me question the power numbers as well….

@NorCalCycling Жыл бұрын

Power data is directly from the power meter. Speed data is based on gps which can be spotty. Look at average speed over a long distance and things will even out

@dakotabikes Жыл бұрын

So anyways Dan attacks

@bee_whisper Жыл бұрын

tameside crit circuit is pretty bad tbh i think it must be uk courses lol

@feedbackzaloop Жыл бұрын

What category you saying that was?

@DrewKime Жыл бұрын

I'm sure after this Dan was a marked man at the local races.

@matthewbrumby5995 Жыл бұрын

just in case you all forgot Lance Armstrong started at as a triathlete,, just saying.. do an ironman sprint commentator then call out a triathlete.

@jbgood71 Жыл бұрын

50+ mph???

@kachunchoi4891 Жыл бұрын

375 watts for 35 mins bruh, easily cat 1 with some training.

@Americafat1 Жыл бұрын

7:05 srsly

@victorlwd Жыл бұрын

370 np ? in a cat 4 ?! holy fuk im doomed. i wanted to start racing but i can bearly hold 300 watts 30/60 min. i gues im sticking to zwift racing LOL

@ponderingfox Жыл бұрын

The point of the commentary is that you don't need that kind of power. Obviously, Dan is going jump up the cats quickly, but don't be overawed by anyone else. We get better by doing.

@NG-xn1jj Жыл бұрын

The categories are based on experience, not skill level. You will almost always find very strong riders in Cat 4 while they accumulate points to move up.

@730theboy Жыл бұрын

Do we know if Dan is wearing socks?

@zineelabidineghafiri4673 Жыл бұрын

Not honest I think, 83km/h

@Gabrielle4870 Жыл бұрын

New guy nominating for a category too low for his ability, smashing the field as a result and it's praised?

@NorCalCycling Жыл бұрын

His fitness is good but that’s only one part of success, his cornering and especially his strategy needs a ton of work, that’s why he lost. I’ll praise anyone racing their bike in good faith

@Gabrielle4870 Жыл бұрын

@@NorCalCycling me too but the fact he smashed them from the start - he knew he was stronger. He lost because he rode like a triathlete. You're right in telling him to learn to race first (has he been watching your channel at all?).