What Happens When Russia Leaves The ISS?

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The International Space Station is one of our finest pieces of collaborative engineering, but after Russia announced that it will be leaving the space station in 2024, it raised a number of questions. What happens when Russia leaves the ISS? How would Russia's departure affect the ISS program? How would that even be possible? This video looks at what Russia brings to the table and how the ISS would (or wouldn’t) function if they left.
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00:00 What is the International Space Station?
00:48 Russia's Plan to Leave the ISS
01:00 Who is Dmitry Rogozin?
01:31 Who is Yuri Borisov?
02:02 Why is Russia Leaving the ISS?
02:37 What is Radiation Hardening?
03:33 Russia's Role on the International Space Station
04:42 What Happens When Russia Leaves The ISS?
05:46 Will Russia Launch Their Own Space Station?
06:08 Plans for the Russian Orbital Service Station (ROSS)
06:59 Will Russia Leave the ISS?
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@primalspace
@primalspace 2 жыл бұрын
When do you think the ISS will be retired? - Shoutout to Brilliant for making this vid possible, check them out here! brilliant.org/primalspace/
@therealgodspeedy
@therealgodspeedy 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video @Primal Space , keep it up!
@RomshaAwasthiA
@RomshaAwasthiA 2 жыл бұрын
I think the ISS might be retired in the 2070s
@RomshaAwasthiA
@RomshaAwasthiA 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe the 2030s, cuz we'll soon have The Gateway in orbit considering that Artemis I is ready for launch. I request a video on the Artemis mission, PLEEEEASEEEEE
@GeodMapping
@GeodMapping 2 жыл бұрын
NASA said that it will be destroyed in 2031
@RomshaAwasthiA
@RomshaAwasthiA 2 жыл бұрын
@@GeodMappingoh yeah I just remember now
@daanvos194
@daanvos194 Жыл бұрын
kinda hard to think it has to go, being born in the 21 century ive grown up with the fact the iss is orbiting around earth, it having to go is kinda tragic
@kdrapertrucker
@kdrapertrucker Жыл бұрын
Not sure why it would have to go, they could just replace modules.
@voicai7910
@voicai7910 Жыл бұрын
@@kdrapertrucker it’s kinda like replacing the parts of an old car, at one point it’s cheaper to buy a new, better car than to invest in the old one.
@Omnixity
@Omnixity Жыл бұрын
@@voicai7910 It would end up being like the ship of Theseus at that point
@daanvos194
@daanvos194 Жыл бұрын
Museum not an option i presume
@firewars7636
@firewars7636 Жыл бұрын
@@daanvos194 Well it's not really worth trying to bring it back down safel]y, it would probably cost more than it took to put it in space in the first place.
@Nehmo
@Nehmo Жыл бұрын
The cosmonauts spend more time fixing ISS than on experiments. I've had vehicles like that. I'm not joking. Eventually, some breakdown is the killer.
@roderickwilliams67
@roderickwilliams67 Жыл бұрын
We call them lemon vehicles
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
MIR even had fires on board and that station was younger than ISS when that happened.
@Poctyk
@Poctyk Жыл бұрын
Bonus points if owner can easily afford new vehicle, but for them the process of figuring out why this rust bucket won't work is fun in itself
@Oscar4u69
@Oscar4u69 Жыл бұрын
they were nissan by any chance? 🤣🤣
@dsdy1205
@dsdy1205 Жыл бұрын
@@Poctyk How about instead of 'fun' we focus on what's useful for a space station to do? Given, you know, wvery year Congress tries to slash space funding further
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 2 жыл бұрын
So they have a dead laptop museum up there. Now that's interesting.
@maciek_k.cichon
@maciek_k.cichon 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like one of Tom Scott's episodes.
@gfdia35
@gfdia35 Жыл бұрын
Sounds fishy why wouldn't they just get a small stock of dead laptops like 10 and just egress for an ocean burn up , no way those are making it to the ground
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Жыл бұрын
they are all pretty much teh same type of current laptop. they last ~30days before failing.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
@@SoloRenegade Wow, If that number is true, I am surprised, I had expected the hardware to last a littel longer, like three months. 30 days is nuts, but just goes to show that space really is hostile. Veritasium made a video about computers and space radiation.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Жыл бұрын
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Yes, and so did Scott Manley. But they both missed the part where HPE has put new computers on the ISS and had them survive for years unhardened (been doing it since 2017). Off-the-shelf computers are expected to last no more than 30days on average, that's why they have so many laptops on teh station. They only use a handful at a time, and swap them out as they go bad. They have to make sure they have enough computers to last them between resupplies.
@mstitek7679
@mstitek7679 2 жыл бұрын
Well technically, russians will leave ISS after 2024. It is fairly clear that ISS cannot remain up there forever, so sooner or later everyone will have to leave it. It's just that we don't know if it will be in 2028 or even after that. So the only information that statement gives is that they won't leave it before 2024.
@joshuaashton1929
@joshuaashton1929 Жыл бұрын
I think they’ll “leave” when the ISS is officially decommissioned by all parties. They simply have way to much invested into the project. Russia couldn’t operate a station by itself in the present day anyway, their economy is smaller than Texas. They could get help from China but they’re busy with tian-gong (however you spell it). All of the space station parts couldn’t operate independently anyway.
@ferrariguy8278
@ferrariguy8278 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if it had been planned to use it as hote/base for the beginning of construction of it's replacement. Then some still functional equipment could cheaply be moved over w/o having to have it all burn up when the ISS gets retired.
@mstitek7679
@mstitek7679 Жыл бұрын
@@ferrariguy8278 I don't think that's even remotely possible.
@ferrariguy8278
@ferrariguy8278 Жыл бұрын
@@mstitek7679 Possibly not now... not enough time left to plan, but it would have made sense... and I guess would depend on the reusability and replacement cost from end to end of some of the equipment (like microscopes etc) that will otherwise burn up.
@mstitek7679
@mstitek7679 Жыл бұрын
@@ferrariguy8278 That's not a planning or technology issue. Unless you're planning to build the new station at exactly the same location as ISS, the cost of changing the orbital parameters is extremely high. It's much simpler to get equipment and people directly from Earth.
@Alucard-gt1zf
@Alucard-gt1zf Жыл бұрын
It'll be a shame when the iss is no longer operational but I'm glad it's getting replaced by something by both agencies
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic Жыл бұрын
Why glad?
@vaisakhkm783
@vaisakhkm783 Жыл бұрын
​@@BojanBojovic soething new
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic Жыл бұрын
@@vaisakhkm783 That is ok, but our species should cooperate not enter another cold war.
@_apsis
@_apsis Жыл бұрын
@@BojanBojovic another space race means another giant leap in space tech development
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic Жыл бұрын
@@_apsis True.
@Fragolux
@Fragolux Жыл бұрын
I've always appreciated that, despite our differences on the ground, the US and Russia have maintained a stable working relationship in space. I hope that, come what may, it can somehow endure. "Our governments are enemies, Dr. Floyd. We are not." -Dr. Moisevitch, "2010: The Year We Make Contact" (the film is about a joint US-Soviet mission to Jupiter)
@VestedUTuber
@VestedUTuber Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Roscosmos has always been quite independent of the Russian government.
@233lynx
@233lynx Жыл бұрын
@@VestedUTuber Sadly, not anymore... and it's got worse for that.
@guillermoelnino
@guillermoelnino Жыл бұрын
threatening each other with n ukes for decades: i sleep moving to secure a warm water port: real sh it!
@grazynazambeanie5963
@grazynazambeanie5963 Жыл бұрын
Whose the captain of the Washington Capitals? I rest my case
@FSAPOJake
@FSAPOJake Жыл бұрын
Even back in the 60s during the height of the space race, the US astronauts and Soviet cosmonauts had immense respect for one another. You can see this clear as day in the videos of the Appollo-Soyuz missions when the astronauts first enter and are shaking hands with the cosmonauts on-board, smiling ear to ear. They also held eulogies when the other side had astronaut or cosmonaut deaths.
@AlexSchendel
@AlexSchendel 2 жыл бұрын
Given that Russia and the US both already have plans for their own space stations after the ISS and will be beginning construction in the next few years with Russia and China likely collaborating while the US collaborates with ESA, CSA, and JAXA, I can't imagine the ISS living beyond the end of the decade. NASA has been treating LOPG as the next-gen space station, succeeding the ISS (even though it will be significantly smaller... Though it will at least be in Lunar orbit lol).
@steveaustin2686
@steveaustin2686 2 жыл бұрын
Axiom is already building modules for a commercial station and the first module is planned to be attached to the ISS. Once all the modules are completed and in orbit, the Axiom station will detach from the ISS to be the first commercial space station. NASA is funding research on other commercial space stations, so the plan appears to be to buy time on the commercial space stations in LEO for their experiments.
@TheFirebird123456
@TheFirebird123456 Жыл бұрын
Also look at the artist renditions of LOPG next to starship its hilarious.
@AlexSchendel
@AlexSchendel Жыл бұрын
@@TheFirebird123456 YEAH it's insane haha. Starship probably offering a similar habitable volume to LOPG
@tvre0
@tvre0 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexSchendel although, it can’t sustain as longer since starship isn’t designed to be a space station. It’s designed to be a spaceship
@noop9k
@noop9k Жыл бұрын
I don’t see Russia “collaborating” with anyone in near future and their threats about leaving ISS are purely for propaganda. They won’t leave until kicked out or until they ruin it.
@RuskiBread
@RuskiBread Жыл бұрын
Hopefully Russia and U.S. can work together to build a new, more modern and technologically advanced space station to replace the ISS. Sadly the chances of that happening are extremely slim, with all this hatred for Russia.
@molybdaen11
@molybdaen11 Жыл бұрын
We can only hope that one day the people vote out the air heads on top and hurt the true company's behind them.
@vogelvogeltje
@vogelvogeltje Жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? Nobody “hates” Russia, we hate Владимир Владимирович Путин.
@SpedRockt
@SpedRockt Жыл бұрын
Fuk politics, we want space science
@archangel7052
@archangel7052 Жыл бұрын
Not happening, they are already working with China to built a moon base.
@doomfan8603
@doomfan8603 Жыл бұрын
@@molybdaen11 Good luck voting out putin...
@Pharisaeus
@Pharisaeus Жыл бұрын
There are so many things completely wrong with this video... 1. "America and Russia grew the ISS" and yet most of the modules were build by Europe. 2. There aren't hundreds defunct laptops on the ISS, there would be no reason to keep them up there, especially that volume is limited. They would be brought back on Dragon (eg. for inspection) or put on Progress/Cygnus/HTV to burn up in the atmosphere. 3. It's no true that thrusters on the Russian segment are used so often. In fact they are almost never used, because they have very limited lifespan. What actually happens is that a spacecraft docked to Zvezda (usually Progress but earlier it was also done by European ATV resupply crafts) is firing engines. 4. It's not true that there is no other way of reboosting the station. Since a docked spacecraft like Progress or ATV can do it, why can't another one? It can. Cygnus was even tested for such thing. The only inconvenience is that it requires flipping ISS 180 degrees. 5. The real issue with Russian segment is that it contains other critical components like life support and navigation computers. 6. It's not true that separated Russian segment would have no power. Zarya, Zvezda na Nauka are all complete spacecraft, they have their own power systems, thrusters and attitude control. While attached to the ISS their solar arrays are retracted to avoid any collision risks when docking.
@rrmackay
@rrmackay Жыл бұрын
Engineers, pilots, technical people, gear heads can work together, its politicians and bureaucrats that can't seem to make it through a career without starting a war.
@fleyua7176
@fleyua7176 Жыл бұрын
US has been non stop at war to fund it's military regime around the world. France is not much different when it comes to enslaving Africa
@jaskojasko8744
@jaskojasko8744 Жыл бұрын
these people are politician soldiers. Russians - psycho terrorists
@rrmackay
@rrmackay Жыл бұрын
@@jaskojasko8744 is this how you show your level of infantile ignorance?
@jaskojasko8744
@jaskojasko8744 Жыл бұрын
@@rrmackay how stupid you must be? They are servants of genonicdal regime. Ruthless killers. I'm from Poland and we know them well...
@rrmackay
@rrmackay Жыл бұрын
@@jaskojasko8744 Russians won WW2, stopped the Nazi war machine and never dropped a nuclear weapon civilians, the USA is the largest terrorist nation on the planet. Get a clue and stop trying to sell your propaganda
@TamagoHead
@TamagoHead Жыл бұрын
ISS was an icon of hope. Sad to see it go. Dmitry is a good example of how not to appoint a political crony to head Roscosmos.
@57thorns
@57thorns Жыл бұрын
It should have been replace by another cooperation between former enemies, but we all know why this can't be.
@HgHg-yp6ft
@HgHg-yp6ft Жыл бұрын
They had to finally meet us( USA) on equal footing so...
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 Жыл бұрын
It's not gone yet.
@fredMplanenut
@fredMplanenut Жыл бұрын
The co-operation of several countries and their expertise has been vital to the success of ISS.
@daniels7907
@daniels7907 Жыл бұрын
Amusingly, back during the early-1980's when this all began as the proposed "Freedom" space station, one of the major promises was that it would be a "permanent" space station. That, much like the entire space shuttle program, was overly-optimistic to put it mildly. As were estimates as to the cost, which started out at ~$10B (the final cost is closer to $150B). A large part of why we needed the Russians were the payload limits of the space shuttles and the simple problem that the shuttles were not designed to be kept in orbit for months at a time. Since the U.S. was no longer flying any kind of space capsules, we needed the Russian Soyuz. This was because an on-station escape vehicle would be needed in case astronauts/cosmonauts had to evacuate in a hurry (e.g. as in the case of a collision). Nowadays, we're more used to the idea of technology becoming obsolete very rapidly.
@blokin5039
@blokin5039 Жыл бұрын
Fake news, you lie all the time bozo
@oceanside88
@oceanside88 Жыл бұрын
Yet trillions is spent on war instead of exploration.
@Hibbidyhai
@Hibbidyhai Жыл бұрын
The US had plans for a ‘life boat’ module that would have served as an escape capsule without needing the Space Shuttle to be docked. With the partnership with Russia and now the availability of commercial spacecraft the life boat capsule was never necessary.
@daniels7907
@daniels7907 Жыл бұрын
@@Hibbidyhai - There were also "plans" for a high-orbit vehicle that would be hangered at the space station and used to service satellites in orbits the shuttles couldn't reach (i.e. most of them). I remember it well because it was included on a model kit for the original Freedom Space Station that I built during the 80's. But it was never funded, just as the "life boat" wasn't. Partly because, especially after the Challenger disaster , NASA didn't want to confess to Congress just how many use cases the shuttles *couldn't* fulfill. Then the Soviet Union fell and everybody was hoping that Russia would suddenly become a friendly nation (not unlike how the GOP does today) and so it was deemed politically beneficial to partner with them. But that killed the sense of urgency for developing a replacement vehicle for getting astronauts to and from the ISS.
@andersonklein3587
@andersonklein3587 Жыл бұрын
What's sad about that is that it would be cool to get some economies of scale going with a space station big enough to afford luxuries and redundancies like more thrusters and maybe a faraday cage to protect electronics. A huge space station bigger than the ISS would be nice, it's somewhat disappointing all the projects right now are tiny and boring in comparison to something 30 years old.
@biggibbs4678
@biggibbs4678 Жыл бұрын
The iss is the largest space station ever.
@tonk4487
@tonk4487 Жыл бұрын
Let’s ignore political, economic and equality problems, and just give those rich people yet another way to spend their stupendous amount of money!
@tomikun8057
@tomikun8057 Жыл бұрын
@@tonk4487 At least that money pile is circulating if that happens, even at a pathetic rate.
@XTreme-ko9dw
@XTreme-ko9dw Жыл бұрын
I mean the problem is that the ISS cost $150 Billion USD...
@tomikun8057
@tomikun8057 Жыл бұрын
@@XTreme-ko9dw And the US spends more than 4x that amount on the military every year, there's enough money but not enough incentive
@pop5678eye
@pop5678eye Жыл бұрын
If you look at the ISS altitude graph you see there are minor boosts much more frequently than would be needed by atmospheric drag alone. Many of the boosts are due to orbital adjustments to avoid collisions. Low-earth orbit is getting crowded with both satellites and the space debris their boosters leave behind.
@digitalwebwarrior
@digitalwebwarrior Жыл бұрын
I got interested in Space after I worked at the ISHF in Alamogordo, New Mexico back in the late 70's. I worked with Col. Stapp, the fastest human. While there, I was learning about the futuristic Space Shuttle. How the shuttle was going to change how we saw space travel. This painting reminds me of that time, the optimistic views I had of future space travel. Kinda the same feelings I have now, the future of traveling to Mars.
@Abbatyya
@Abbatyya Жыл бұрын
If you research very well on ISS, you'll come to understand that without Russia ISS could've not been created
@MeerkatADV
@MeerkatADV Жыл бұрын
If you would do some basic research you would understand that without the US, the EU, or Japan the ISS wouldn't exist either. That's why it's cooperative.
@pareshmokani
@pareshmokani Жыл бұрын
When I first read about ISS, it felt so good that two competing Superpower nations came together for the development of space science and humanity. All good and bad things have a beginning and end but it is surreal they worked together and as a neutral citizen of the world, I would still love them to be together. They have the best resources and knowledge. ISS may not last long but history will tell that it was the best thing to come out from humanity.
@davidadelstein1064
@davidadelstein1064 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to "see" the narator is back , just as a suggestion , the funny bits in between don't really go well with the nice posh voice, he gives the videos a different vibe that doesn't match with the comedy...even tho those parts were really funny. :)
@LLLewelyn
@LLLewelyn Жыл бұрын
The bias towards Russia and assumption everything they do is nefarious could possibly be why they no longer want to collaborate?
@doltsbane
@doltsbane 2 жыл бұрын
2028? It took the Russians 14 years to deliver the most recent module they added to the ISS, and that was working from pre-existing flight spares. I kind of doubt that with current sanctions and the need to use whatever chips and whatnot they can smuggle in to replace all the tanks, planes, and missiles they're expending in Ukraine they're going to be building space station components any faster. The real reason they want to bail on the ISS is that Roscosmos can't afford to send crews to it anymore unless someone else is footing the bill.
@peteranderson037
@peteranderson037 2 жыл бұрын
If the Russian government says that they will do something, then they are going to do the exact opposite. If they accuse you of something, it is because that is what they are doing secretly. If they demand that you do something, then it is in your best interest to do anything but that thing.
@GURken
@GURken 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it is better to just build a new thing than to fix what you already have. The only thing why it took so long was storage and documentation history. All modules except Nauka were made in time without delays.
@fork9001
@fork9001 2 жыл бұрын
An anomaly occured. Not like they ever missed a Soyuz or Progress launch window because the LV wasn’t ready
@craigsheffield6546
@craigsheffield6546 Жыл бұрын
My dad was in the Air Force in the 60s and 70s and he taught me about the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo programs. From there on, my interest in space grew, and I continued to study it through my school years, including doing experiments for school contests.
@reginaldmcnab3265
@reginaldmcnab3265 Жыл бұрын
1:30 - 1:40 Russia should have gone its separate ways long ago, and build its space station, like China did.
@billykulim5202
@billykulim5202 Жыл бұрын
make donald trump a president, and maybe both country will shakehand again and humanity join hand at iss will keep our dream live on, eversince biden take office, war break out like hell there
@AHHHHHHHH21
@AHHHHHHHH21 Жыл бұрын
​@@billykulim5202hell no, the Ukraine stuff was already brewing long before Biden took office, now I'm not saying that he's good, but I'm also not saying that trump is good either. It's not all black and white in politics (or I guess red and blue)
@MrAledro84
@MrAledro84 Жыл бұрын
Of course we humans brought our relatively petty issues into space. But, competition has proven to be good for advancements in space exploration. If they want to leave, so be it!
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 Жыл бұрын
They announced this intent, years ago. Its just now 'news', for the propaganda value.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 Жыл бұрын
We humans? I thought this was The Planet of the Apes?
@Andrey_Gysev
@Andrey_Gysev Жыл бұрын
"competition has proven to be good for advancements in space exploration" Yeah, you know, Apollo 13's air filters issue when they needed a round air filter but they had only square ones in another part of module. Because those filters was made by two different companies in two different ways. Yeah, very "good for advancements". And, you know, how cooperation is very bad for space exploration, for example, cooperation in making an international space station or cooperation in far-space programs, or, maybe, cooperation in making better satellites. Of course its a shit, its not competitive! Pffft!
@Azamat421
@Azamat421 Жыл бұрын
@@Andrey_Gysev exactly
@AHHHHHHHH21
@AHHHHHHHH21 Жыл бұрын
​@@Andrey_Gysevalso, cooperation is great for keeping things some way, but if you want any drive to be better, you need competition. I mean, this past decade has barely had any advancements in space
@ItachiUchiha-bf3pj
@ItachiUchiha-bf3pj 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't cover all of the international flags, India's flag was left untouched .
@bingus3582
@bingus3582 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the west tries to frame that the world is united against Russia when it couldn't be further from the truth. China, India, Africa aren't sanctioning Russia
@bnikanor
@bnikanor 2 жыл бұрын
India is an ally to russia.
@justinblin
@justinblin Жыл бұрын
That’s probably because the topic wasn’t super relevant to the topic (as the meaning behind it was that a Russia was pissing off most people); however, the issue is actually quite nuanced and fairly interesting. India has sent relief efforts to Ukraine, but has not condemned Russia for its invasion since it doesn’t really trust the West (which is somewhat fair given its colonial past) and still relies on Russian fossil fuels (which is also fair, because you need power somehow, and it’ll take years or decades to switch). On the other hand, India isn’t exactly supporting Russia, as they’re staying fairly neutral in the whole thing.
@ItachiUchiha-bf3pj
@ItachiUchiha-bf3pj Жыл бұрын
@@justinblin 👍 accurate analysis
@romanrussu3403
@romanrussu3403 Жыл бұрын
@@justinblin everything is simple. India is a friendly country. Flags that was covered was flags of unfriendly countries (US, Japan, etc.)
@riassslave558
@riassslave558 Жыл бұрын
I watched the ISS being put together in segment in science class in junior high,...if one thing a lot of ppl will shed a tear or two once the station is no more , sure new ones will take its place but no matter how new & tech savvy the new station will be ISS proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that despite political bickering, or what I call "all for show posturing" one thing regardless stays constant & that it is better to do this kind of thing openly with many different countries participating because in the long run we have to all get along, because being tolerant isn't the same thing as being open to another observers' valuable insight and being in a place where your very life could hinge on how you interact in a small contained finite space with finite options available should an emergency arise. I'm amazed it's lasted as long as it has, you know what i mean.
@pareshmokani
@pareshmokani Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your views.
@blingbling2841
@blingbling2841 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the new generation of sci-fi movies both A+ and B-grade where the new space station is in lunar orbit and the challenges faced due to the incredibly longer distance from Earth's atmosphere.
@almafuertegmailcom
@almafuertegmailcom 2 жыл бұрын
People keep talking about the "Russian segment" of the ISS, but that doesn't mean what you think it means. It's Russian because it was a Russian design, built in Russia, and it's operated by Russia. That does NOT mean it's OWNED by Russia. Zarya is NOT owned by Russia. It was built in Russia by a Russian company, *on commission* by NASA. NASA ordered it, paid for it, funded its development, and OWNS the module. So, no, besides all the technical limitations to do such a thing, Russia couldn't just take away its segment because it's not theirs. They don't own it. So they could take away their individual modules, such as Zvezda, Poisk, etc, dock them with Nauka, and take that away. But they can't take Zarya, as that doesn't belong to them.
@GURken
@GURken 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know where did you find this nonsense, this is just wrong. In the 90s NASA cooperated with Russia in exchange for its technologies and experience in space station development. It's not a 7-eleven, when it paid with grands it didn't automatically "owned" what Russia built and sent, because it already took back an opportunity for a future successful mission (which in the end ISS became later). That's why it's called "cooperation".
@almafuertegmailcom
@almafuertegmailcom 2 жыл бұрын
@@GURken That's exactly how it is. NASA paid for it through Boeing. In fact, it wasn't gonna be built by the Russians necessarily, Boeing could've built it themselves. NASA commissioned it, paid Boeing to do it, Boeing subcontracted a Russian company to build it. It is owned by the USA. Go ahead and use google, it's your friend.
@soubhagya8808
@soubhagya8808 8 ай бұрын
01:15 No, all except the Indian tricolour.
@ThomasThings
@ThomasThings Жыл бұрын
*uses light years as a measure of time * Me and my brain: (cringes out if existences)
@redtomik3852
@redtomik3852 2 жыл бұрын
What a twist. I would have never expected that meme from 1:47 from your channel.
@MMLL369
@MMLL369 Жыл бұрын
Space programs are about politics. The biggest mistake in the ISS program as a whole, was the exclusion of the Chinese but of course, that's the view point if you are science-focused.
@NoviSavvy
@NoviSavvy Жыл бұрын
Not every MacBook survive it's first year here on Earth lmao. Intentionally designed as shit. Ask any repair guy who makes living on it. Imagine having additional particles go through ISL6259 up there in orbit
@timwiesler6365
@timwiesler6365 Жыл бұрын
I'm a "repair guy" and you talk bullshit
@PresidentEvil
@PresidentEvil Жыл бұрын
Macbooks will outlast every pos pc 😂
@NoviSavvy
@NoviSavvy Жыл бұрын
@@PresidentEvil well, that counts, lmao
@Platinum199
@Platinum199 Жыл бұрын
@@PresidentEvil my Mac didn’t even last 3 years without severe problems 😂
@PresidentEvil
@PresidentEvil Жыл бұрын
@@Platinum199 sucks to suck
@sourabhgupta4853
@sourabhgupta4853 Жыл бұрын
1:15 Not all flags buddy, they never disrespected Indian Flag.🇮🇳
@NegetiveRizz
@NegetiveRizz Жыл бұрын
cringe alert
@sc1338
@sc1338 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t brag about that 😬
@boiscooka232
@boiscooka232 5 ай бұрын
Why India always cringe and simp for Russia 😬
@herbertkeithmiller
@herbertkeithmiller Жыл бұрын
I would like to submit a slight correction. The Soviet Union launched all of those space stations it was an entirely different entity than the country now called Russia. Since it's inception at the fall of the Soviet Union the modern country of Russia hasn't launched any space stations. I also have some ideas on the future. Let's say the worst happens in the war in Ukraine continued on for another couple years. And the US and other countries continue to impose the current level of sanctions. This might not happen but if it does Russia will have a little difficulty in sourcing the equipment necessary to build a new space station. International sanctions also are affecting the Russian economy. For now because of cash reserves that are propping up the price of the ruble, the sale of oil and gas to India and China, and the fact that foreign investors are not allowed to remove their assets from the Russian stock exchanges their economy is doing rather well. And perhaps It will continue to do so. But we live in an interconnected world and Russia doesn't currently build most of the computer chips it uses or the software that runs on them. And it will take many years to replace the capabilities that are currently cut off by sanctions. It will also take many years for the sanctions in these areas to have a significant effect. Now I personally doubt Russia will be able to match the capabilities of the West and produce the sophisticated technology necessary to produce a modern space station but I could be wrong. Time will tell. Perhaps Russian and China will partner on a new space station together.
@herbertkeithmiller
@herbertkeithmiller Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyjohnny-xk4jd * that I am using. Wow yeah Russians made the computer I'm using yea sure. Now go collect your rubles. Or perhaps you are as ignorant as you sound. The phone I am using uses a Qualcomm chip nothing to do with Russia. The phones manufactured by Russia mostly use Asian made chips just like the ones sold in the United States. PC wise Russia only started manufacturing it's own motherboards in 2021. They don't use Windows.
@AHHHHHHHH21
@AHHHHHHHH21 Жыл бұрын
Russia is not at all modern, at first they were all separated states (Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, ect) but then the reveloution came along and the Soviet union was formed
@lutenic6111
@lutenic6111 Жыл бұрын
The funding of ISS from US is also going to end in 2024 and there were talks of allowing private funding and allowing private tours and experiments there
@Name-ot3xw
@Name-ot3xw Жыл бұрын
The Russians have been talking about what they're going to do with their modules for years now, the timing of the announcement might have been political but the plan wasn't. Not anywhere near new politics at least.
@kellerweskier7214
@kellerweskier7214 Жыл бұрын
the thing is that tech has come so far, and were in that incline issue where tech is harder to expand now, as were at... what? 1NM sized chiplets? anything smaller is difficult. So, its at a point where putting up a new ISS, NOW in the middle of Elon doing his thing, would help bump the space age alot.
@Azamat421
@Azamat421 Жыл бұрын
It will never happen mara sorry
@2n974
@2n974 Жыл бұрын
So delusional
@kellerweskier7214
@kellerweskier7214 Жыл бұрын
@@2n974 get ratio'd
@errer1605
@errer1605 Жыл бұрын
International (except China) Space Station
@toddmarshall7573
@toddmarshall7573 7 ай бұрын
No mention about Russia being the only remaining ride to the space station a year ago when this video was made.
@evasuser
@evasuser Жыл бұрын
let's hope the miracle in orbit will keep orbiting with all partners on board.Designing the successor of the ISS in 2028 is for another video.
@alex2070
@alex2070 Жыл бұрын
What about cold welding? Wouldn't the russian segment basically be "glued" to the coupling ring?
@Poctyk
@Poctyk Жыл бұрын
IIRC a few years ago there was experimental detachment of some section after it was attached for 20 years. It worked as intended
@347Jimmy
@347Jimmy Жыл бұрын
When designing the docking/berthing ports, extreme care is taken to ensure that no two pieces of the same alloy will be touching each other
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 Жыл бұрын
The Russians can leave if they want to leave, but they would have to give up the house.
@AHHHHHHHH21
@AHHHHHHHH21 Жыл бұрын
​@@Poctykwell, it was the Pirs segment, and it was replaced by something else that I forgot the name of
@flash2989
@flash2989 6 ай бұрын
Gotta love the KSP soundtrack playing in the background
@primalspace
@primalspace 6 ай бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@kaiserslavaniaashur1623
@kaiserslavaniaashur1623 Жыл бұрын
It is important that no matter what happens on earth. We all work together to further our studies of space and space station engineering. Humanity must prevail
@kwamebushman606
@kwamebushman606 Жыл бұрын
"In a rage of insecurity" Such nonsense from you western puppets 🤣🤣🤣
@leocarey-read1342
@leocarey-read1342 2 жыл бұрын
Love the KSP music
@LSF17
@LSF17 2 жыл бұрын
I know right
@Diskpartitional
@Diskpartitional 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I was thinking the same thing
@Jilocasindragon
@Jilocasindragon Жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait, wasn't that the Kerbal Space Program music running in the background?!
@steveaustin2686
@steveaustin2686 Жыл бұрын
I believe that it is copyrightless music as more than KSP has used it.
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781
@sofascialistadankulamegado1781 Жыл бұрын
Russia putting up another space station? I'm going to proceed to laugh 🤣🤣🤣
@razorblade6746
@razorblade6746 Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see the day we have 3 space stations around the Earth
@realquarksandleptons
@realquarksandleptons Жыл бұрын
And maybe 1 around the moon as well if it doesn’t delay
@tylernorby4939
@tylernorby4939 Жыл бұрын
Too bad the Chinese one is more for military purposes than the good of the people down on the ground.
@joshuaashton1929
@joshuaashton1929 Жыл бұрын
@@tylernorby4939 I don’t think they do anything for the good of the people. Hell, half of the rockets they launch carry spy satellites. Oh wait I’m sorry, I meant “agricultural and urban development imaging”.
@deezeed2817
@deezeed2817 Жыл бұрын
@@tylernorby4939 lol yanks blabbering on about military purposes when everything they build is for the military. Just shut your mouth you yankee hypocrite. The world is moving away from the U.S.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 Жыл бұрын
You haven't seen that day yet.
@johnsadler6534
@johnsadler6534 Жыл бұрын
They are going to build "Gateway" so I just thought why not use the ISS for parts!
@ouuuaburger2093
@ouuuaburger2093 Жыл бұрын
He is right, it takes more time fixing things than to do some meaningful task up there, I hope yall can understand this!
@sonicsupersam7793
@sonicsupersam7793 7 ай бұрын
i just wish we had some way to preserve the iss after we leave it instead of burning it up in the atmosphere
@timeflysintheshop
@timeflysintheshop Жыл бұрын
I was upset that they threw away Mir. I am upset that the ISS is due to be de-orbited in 2030. If the Russians do take their propulsive module off the ISS, Elon Musk could buy the ISS at fire sale price and send up a spaceX developed replacement propulsive module to maintain the altitude and attitude of the station. If Elon then owns the biggest space station, his conversion to Super Villain will be complete! 😁😁😁
@grzegorzkapica7930
@grzegorzkapica7930 2 жыл бұрын
Would you do a vid on Buran Energia? SpaceX was not the first to land rockets, but there is so little information, how Energia made it.
@feuby8480
@feuby8480 Жыл бұрын
I don't get why is this so hard to get working electronics. Isn't that possible to have an isolated module where you could put, use, and store sensitive equipment ? I know that's expensive, probably way more than just shipping regularly, but this is still strange to me.
@gregr3720
@gregr3720 Жыл бұрын
They didn't say exactly how, but they said radiation is a problem.
@willpowell6487
@willpowell6487 Жыл бұрын
What would be way better than a modern station in space is for nations to learn to get along here on earth. We are all from the same planet after all.
@AJ-jy6lb
@AJ-jy6lb Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: Why can't we do both? It's always a this or that proposition from you types. #smh Just because you can't do simple things like walk and chew gum at the same time, doesn't mean the rest of us can't do all of the tough things at the same time. Ever hear of multi-tasking?
@ronyaron8307
@ronyaron8307 Жыл бұрын
@@AJ-jy6lb what
@deezeed2817
@deezeed2817 Жыл бұрын
With mankind yes but with Americans no. Screw the yanks.
@milutinke
@milutinke Жыл бұрын
It's better for them to cooperate with NASA and ESA on building a space station around the moon and maybe try to keep the ISS running for few more years. But keeping the ISS way too long could spill trouble, since it's getting very old and difficult and expensive to maintain. Russian space program is corrupt, but they have some brilliant minds and decades of experience, I wish they would fix the corruption issue. Politicians should leave scientists to do their job in peace.
@archangel7052
@archangel7052 Жыл бұрын
They are now working with China for a moon base.
@benjamingrant3441
@benjamingrant3441 Жыл бұрын
If there is no money somewhere, it does not indicate corruption. There are a dozen possible reasons for this situation.
@platima
@platima Жыл бұрын
Welcome back Beau! I absolute love your duo; script + voice. Please do keep it up, but good on you for trying something different!
@fredflintstoner596
@fredflintstoner596 Жыл бұрын
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?"
@pop5678eye
@pop5678eye Жыл бұрын
Whether Russia abandons the ISS (it is a misrepresentation that it would directly detach its module, their intention is really just to stop supporting it) the station's core is so out of date and breaking down that it would be impossible to maintain it past this decade anyway. The Russians are just the first ones to save themselves some cash by abandoning their support. Whether or not politics triggered it this year the Russian decision is one that would have been coming soon anyway.
@nisenobody8273
@nisenobody8273 Жыл бұрын
Don't panic! Russia will not leave the ISS until they have their own operational space station (this means humans can actually go there), and even according to their plans, this would not happen until the end of the decade, although it is well known that the space industry is challenging and could take longer. If ISS receives funding, it could last in orbit beyond 2030. It might make more sense to deorbit the station before then, as it is certainly very old and difficult to maintain, and NASA needs money to fund the Artemis program. In any case we could replace the ISS with commercial stations in this decade.
@one_step_sideways
@one_step_sideways Жыл бұрын
That is only provided that NASA are going to cooperate. I don't think they will, because NASA is entirely state-owned and their higher-ups (the US "government") already despise Russia with every fabric of their being
@nisenobody8273
@nisenobody8273 Жыл бұрын
@@one_step_sideways Yes, but the other option is to lose the ISS, before having any new options in orbit (such as Axiom Space Station or Orbital Reef) and in that case everyone loses access to a permanently orbiting presence until at least 2028. If that were to happen, it would certainly be unfortunate for both space programs.
@karstenfrank
@karstenfrank 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this channel a lot, but the comical parts are a bit out of style I think
@mmneander1316
@mmneander1316 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The video would have been better without it.
@Celestial_Wing
@Celestial_Wing Жыл бұрын
Now if only everyone had the same sentiment towards the old outdated space suits
@darthjump
@darthjump Жыл бұрын
As a german i would like to say, i have no idea how big a football field is. Use scientific terms in scientific context, please. And while you are at it, adapt the metric system please already.
@caturlifelive
@caturlifelive Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome, can't wait for the new space station from Russia thanks for the content
@DerJuvens
@DerJuvens Жыл бұрын
That's probably not going to happen in the next decade.
@lek8630
@lek8630 Жыл бұрын
@@DerJuvens ex covid expert - ex military expert - ex economy expert now spacestation building expert L M A O
@DerJuvens
@DerJuvens Жыл бұрын
@@lek8630 to be fair, that’s correct. Never thought about it in that extend but yeah, you are correct, I’d qualify for all three 👍🏻(obviously no “space building expert” although space and in particular the logistics behind a space station are pretty interesting)
@Nyx_2142
@Nyx_2142 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Won't happen. That would require them to have a functioning space industry, which they no longer do. NASA was keeping them in business for decades but don't need to anymore. I'm sure they'll start building one about the same time they start winning in Ukraine lol
@aeiouaeioujajaja1750
@aeiouaeioujajaja1750 Жыл бұрын
@@DerJuvens nor ever because we're boutta nuke them to the ground and take their land
@andrewmarty7293
@andrewmarty7293 2 жыл бұрын
Good video
@rgt4848
@rgt4848 7 ай бұрын
Hearing that there are over a hundred dead laptops in the iss is just another thing that tells me nobody is going all the way to Mars anytime soon.
@GewoonD346
@GewoonD346 Жыл бұрын
Cool video, lot's of information. But curious to see/find out where you found the ''computers from '88'' info because I wanted to look into it but can't find anything online.
@llynellyn
@llynellyn Жыл бұрын
The ISS was launched in 1998 but construction technically began in 1986. That may sound a little odd, but the ISS is essentially the Mir-2 space station plus addition modules bolted on by the countries who paid for the station after Russia/USSR went bankrupt and couldn't afford to launch it, as a result many of the core ISS components are over 30 years old (This is why the Russian section looks so ancient/dilaphidated).
@skeggjoldgunnr3167
@skeggjoldgunnr3167 Жыл бұрын
I want Russia's space agency to continue working with the rest of us. Mankind cannot be wasting efforts. We all need to coordinate our knowledge and goals.
@pashadanilov3490
@pashadanilov3490 Жыл бұрын
We want that too, but you know politicians. Dumb manchildren not caring about anything
@skeggjoldgunnr3167
@skeggjoldgunnr3167 Жыл бұрын
@jonku Gee, how cute. Pretty soon here - Russia won't have anyone else to sell their gas to. With China knowing this: how do YOU think China will treat THAT relationship? Neither of them have a clue, what a friend is. They only deal in "how much fear can we instill?" evil loser + evil loser does not equal a win.
@skeggjoldgunnr3167
@skeggjoldgunnr3167 Жыл бұрын
@@kanding3369 I think China maybe has some HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS to work out within it's OWN borders prior to fixing their aspirations to join humanity in ANYTHING. Russia, too - for that matter. But maybe isolation is no solution for their lack of clue on how to behave like a human.
@skeggjoldgunnr3167
@skeggjoldgunnr3167 Жыл бұрын
​@@kanding3369 I am seeing that a government can still control the thoughts and feelings and beliefs of it's peoples. Still in this internet age. Russian citizens believing that Russia's invasion of Ukraine is fake news. Chinese and North Korean citizens believing their fear of their government is normal. India co-signing what Russia has done, because that suits them best - financially. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Question morality all you want. The facts remain to condemn your black heart. I do no business with these peoples. I send them away. I say "Sorry, I can't help you." Because I just don't know if my help...will...help. So - yes. In my small way - I guess I *do* own that. We all do, in our own little way. Where is our middle common ground where we can share and right our differences? It seems to me that the sciences and tech and the Olympic games and space exploration have always rightfully been shielded from such petty arguments for good reason. I think Russia should maybe pick their fights and their friends more wisely. Their battlegrounds need WAY more consideration than they've given them. I do not see how loneliness and isolation will serve them well in the future. Politics should have no place here. This is sad. For all.
@AP-qs2zf
@AP-qs2zf Жыл бұрын
Sorry we don't work with fascists
@russelenriquez5248
@russelenriquez5248 2 жыл бұрын
i believe he was replaced but not fired. 🤔
@niller2006
@niller2006 2 жыл бұрын
polonium tea or novichok?
@lsudx479
@lsudx479 3 ай бұрын
Rumor has it there's private investors putting a bid in for the international space station. They want to turn it into a space hotel for rich tourists.
@MiG-25IsGOAT
@MiG-25IsGOAT 3 ай бұрын
How you make it to make all your videos so entretaining and interesting? Amazing videos you make.
@primalspace
@primalspace 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm so glad you enjoy them!
@Luke..luke..luke..
@Luke..luke..luke.. 2 жыл бұрын
welcome back to a familiar voice. ♥️
@user-sz5slm
@user-sz5slm Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the ISS is outdated. Perhaps it is worth making the central part of the station, to which all other stations could quickly dock. A kind of "handshake", in the name of peace and in case of force majeure. But this issue should be supervised by an organization such as the UN or the new organization "Galactic Council" 😃 Extra functionality of the central part is also possible.
@florin3161
@florin3161 Жыл бұрын
yeas and in the mean time west ..on the earth give rusians sanctions....how comvenient...is enaugf that rusians not send fuel to their part..and all get down...and they are fool if not do this...west is try to steal rusian land...
@LunarKn1ght
@LunarKn1ght Жыл бұрын
What does the UN stand for, United Nations. There is no governing body there the closest thing we have is the Security Council.
@user-sz5slm
@user-sz5slm Жыл бұрын
@@LunarKn1ght Do you mean the UN Security Council? We need an international organization without a headquarters, decentralized in nature with jurisdiction extending to outer space, having all the necessary powers and having a legitimate governing body. And also having a punitive body that monitors obstacles to space exploration and peaceful coexistence.
@LunarKn1ght
@LunarKn1ght Жыл бұрын
@@user-sz5slm No, just no. Who would be allowed to vote for that, who is in charge, what laws are they allowed to pass, what laws can they enforce, how would they enforce those laws, who would listen to those laws? There are so many questions to that line of thinking. The world is not ready nor wanting of that kind of governmental body that dictates to other countries what they can and cannot do. What I assume you are asking for is an Earth Gov. which is why I pointed to the UN Security council. It's the closest thing we have to one and even then the only way people listen is through threat of invasion from the Council members and nuclear annihilation.
@user-sz5slm
@user-sz5slm Жыл бұрын
@@LunarKn1ght It was not in vain that I said that it should be an international union, possibly of former members of the UN. And maybe new people with experience of impartiality and objectivity, using artificial intelligence and robotics in their work. They must be elected by the world community. All countries must participate and be held accountable. What laws do you need to do the kind of work everyone should do? I think that it is possible to use the charter on the basis of the charter of the Theosophical Society.
@krebsfish5035
@krebsfish5035 Жыл бұрын
I'd think "Russia leaving ISS" is more of stopped all support for the station and leave it to the the rest of members, ISS still get to keep the Russian section, but there will be no cosmonauts and no Soyuz docked there.
@swoondrones
@swoondrones 11 ай бұрын
Russia won't detach the segment. It would be stupid. Chill.
@millugaming133
@millugaming133 Жыл бұрын
Russia and USA had been trying to leave the ISS even before the war. Do a little research on that
@Alex_White2010
@Alex_White2010 Жыл бұрын
3:22 that dungeon is the Leonardo module. Its an American module used as a space landfill
@abstraconcept
@abstraconcept Жыл бұрын
There were more than two bathrooms (5:11) on the station at the time this video was made, the UWMS toilet arrived at the ISS on CRS-14 on Oct. 5, 2020. You can see all three active toilets in Thomas Pasquet’s tour of the ISS (recorded in Oct. 2021), two of which are in the US segment, in Node 3: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jrqEf8imqL2tcXU.html
@bradleyokane
@bradleyokane Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it have been cool if we could bring back parts of the ISS and have them in museums around the world! Shame there is longer a space shuttle do bring anything back :(
@AHHHHHHHH21
@AHHHHHHHH21 Жыл бұрын
We have replicas that are spot on
@geraldscott4302
@geraldscott4302 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered why it is in such a low orbit. It should have been much higher, where it could remain in orbit for centuries without having to be reboosted. Another issue with building space stations, or any other large, long term high tech project, is that they become outdated before they are completed. And when they are literally built around outdated technology, it is not easy, or even possible to update them. It would probably cost less to build an entirely new one, but then you would run into the same problems. I think it is time for the age of orbiting space stations to come to an end. We need to get started on more ambitious projects. I don't see crewed missions to Mars in the near future, there are simply too many problems to overcome with keeping humans in space exposed to that much radiation for such a long time, and nobody has yet come up with any kind of workable solution. But we do need to get out of low earth orbit. It only takes a couple of days to reach the moon, so a space station in orbit around the moon wouldn't really present any more problems than one in orbit around earth. But would it be any more beneficial? What I envision is a space station in orbit around the moon, with routine visits from the station to the moons surface and back. Due to the moons low gravity, you don't need a large expensive rocket to ferry people back and forth from lunar orbit to the surface and back. At some point, a small scale moonbase could be built (not like what you see in science fiction) and humans could possibly spend several weeks at the time on the surface. They would not be exposed to any more radiation than they would be on a space station, and the moons gravity would help prevent muscle deterioration better than being in total weightlessness.
@madsam0320
@madsam0320 Жыл бұрын
The reason why the space stations are not in higher orbits is because of the absence of earth magnetic shielding. A moon station will have more exposure to radiation for the same reason.
@dwmcever
@dwmcever Жыл бұрын
Easier/cheaper to launch to.
@THEBIGMEOW
@THEBIGMEOW Жыл бұрын
Such a shame Irregardless of our differences we can't love one another
@Nonamelol.
@Nonamelol. Жыл бұрын
It’s sad when you think about it. The only reason we got to the moon was because of competition. The greatest achievement our species achieved was done out of pure competition. Imagine what we would be able to do if we united.
@webfreezy
@webfreezy Жыл бұрын
Let's call it FSS - the Freedom Space Station then 😉
@Sam_Sam2
@Sam_Sam2 Жыл бұрын
That was the original plan
@Milk-ew4pf
@Milk-ew4pf 2 жыл бұрын
1:46 you should have used El Risitas meme
@chinahamyku6583
@chinahamyku6583 Жыл бұрын
With the comprehensive sanctions against Russia by the United States and the Western world and the drastic changes in international geopolitics, it is completely predictable that Russia will get rid of the United States and the West in the space field. There is no need for the outside world to worry about the fate of Russia's withdrawal from the International Space Station, and Russia will not feel the slightest loneliness. China's Tiangong Space Station will complete the final assembly task before the end of this year. At present, 17 countries will join the orbital scientific research of China's Space Station (including the European Space Agency, Russia, Japan, India and other countries). In view of the good relationship between China and Russia with no upper limit , There is no doubt that China's space station has opened its doors to Russia. China and Russia have jointly carried out the construction of a lunar base and jointly built an "international lunar research station". This year, the former head of the Russian space agency said that Russia will build a Russian module to connect to the Chinese space station. The National Aeronautics and Space Administration of China has announced earlier that the Chinese space station will be open to countries around the world, with the exception of the United States.
@EricChien95
@EricChien95 Жыл бұрын
Good old Lex Talionis
@freyjasvansdottir9904
@freyjasvansdottir9904 Жыл бұрын
You Americans and your measuring things in football fields (and not the football 95% of the world play, but American football, also known as handegg)
@Affirmbuttress
@Affirmbuttress Жыл бұрын
They were literally more chill during the times of the USSR.
@user-cw2py6wh8l
@user-cw2py6wh8l Жыл бұрын
Just ignore the Russian in the ISS.
@umu8934
@umu8934 Жыл бұрын
Saying Russian threats of leaving ISS is bluff in your opinion because of pro western Ideology is a 100% bias in my understanding 😹😹😹 If only US and is friends didn't deliberately hindered the ISS cooperation with Russia this issue wouldn't happened. It's a wise part for Russia to cut ties with US and other members of ISS. Russia can cooperate with Chinese space station while building their own is a good strategy even though it's expensive... There's no need to be bossing around by other, US and others who are left in ISS should also start making a new ISS mk2 station for future... The outer space is the new battle ground and the race of colonizing Moon and Mars must start for the next generation of war
@ChadwickTheChad
@ChadwickTheChad Жыл бұрын
There's not supposed to be any cooperation between the USA and russia. We cut ties with your nation. Also, russia doesn't even really have a space agency anymore.
@Brock_in_the_North
@Brock_in_the_North 2 жыл бұрын
The ISS is ancient and probably costs more to maintain and run than the benefits if having it. Scrap the program and send up a new one with much updated technology. The US could work in partnership with space X and build a space station dedicated to experiments but also put it in the moons orbit so that space X can use it as a space station to Dock at and send people to the moon and back. I don't know howbthat wpukd work but I'm sure it wouldn't take a lot of fuel to get a small craft off the moons surface and back up to the moon station. If they were able to find a way to refine fuel on the moon it could work as a launch pad to Mars and beyond. If we could take off from the moon I wonder how fast we could travel given the lack of gravity in space. All this technology and we have never gone past the moon.
@steveaustin2686
@steveaustin2686 2 жыл бұрын
Axiom is already building the first module of their commerical station and they plan to attach it to the ISS in 2024. Axiom wants to have a 3 module station finished before the ISS is deorbited. Deep space is more unforgiving than LEO. The ISS and other crewed LEO missions and stations are protected by the Van Allen belts. Part of Artemis, is to develop the tech and skills for living in deep space and on other planets. Lunar Gateway is already planned and being built to be in a Near Rectilinear Halo Orbit (NRHO) aroundd the Moon. This is a very stable orbit that doesn't need much propellant for station keeping in a year. The first four elements of the Lunar Gateway are already under construction. The Power and Propulsion Element (PPE) and Habitation and Logistics Outpost (HALO) are planned to be launched together on Falcon Heavy in 2024. The International Habitation segment (I-HAB) is being built by ESA and JAXA and is expected to ride along with Orion on Artemis IV. The European System Providing Refueling, Infrastructure and Telecommunications (ESPRIT) module is planned on riding along with Orion on Artemis V.
@tonk2629
@tonk2629 Жыл бұрын
There are other space companies other than SpaceX, blue origin already has the plans for the orbital reef
@AJ-jy6lb
@AJ-jy6lb Жыл бұрын
"Probably"? LMAO! Thanks for admitting with one word that you don't know anything at all. Also, you need to look up the definition of the word "ancient",...if you know how.
@AHHHHHHHH21
@AHHHHHHHH21 Жыл бұрын
​@@tonk2629except blue origin kinda sucks
@steveaustin2686
@steveaustin2686 Жыл бұрын
@@AHHHHHHHH21 Blue is very slow, but based on the New Shepard, they make good hardware, eventually.
@Xottapchenko
@Xottapchenko Жыл бұрын
I don’t think it will be possible to detach Russian segment of ISS in near future due to extreme levels of corruption in Roskosmos and other half-military/government firms floating around (yeah, it’s currently impossible for non-governmental companies in Russia to even try to do smth in space). And I’m not even talking about crumbling down Plisetsk (military-only) and build in a very bad place Vostochny (different types of rails between Vostochny and majority of development sections/rocket building plants/fabrics crucial for its sustainability) and how bad the people are payed there. We’re literally paying Kazakhstan to let us use Baykonur, if some country is the next space ‘derzhava’ in near future - it’s them. And by the way, way do English speakers ALWAYS pressure the first part of Slavic surnames? It’s ridiculous! They’re not ROgozin and BOrisov, they’re RogOzin and BorIsov (well, you even twist the name BorIs to BOOOOOOris, idk)
@karlomikacic1435
@karlomikacic1435 Жыл бұрын
you know its good video when he uses kerbal space program music
@SuperWotman
@SuperWotman 2 жыл бұрын
I like to see them build a station with all that sanctions on high tech goods.
@bingus3582
@bingus3582 2 жыл бұрын
Right because the sanctions have been so detrimental to the Russian economy..their dollar is worth twice more to what it was before invading Ukraine.
@bingus3582
@bingus3582 2 жыл бұрын
China and India aren't sanctioning Russia and will gladly do business with them. The west really shot themselves in the foot sanctioning Russia.
@VikingTeddy
@VikingTeddy 2 жыл бұрын
It'll just be blackjack and hookers.
@Comet-2011-W3-Lovejoy
@Comet-2011-W3-Lovejoy Жыл бұрын
Local brands
@sickrantorum693
@sickrantorum693 Жыл бұрын
@@Comet-2011-W3-Lovejoy ... will need a lot of time to catch up to cutting edge tech stuff.
@svetre87
@svetre87 2 жыл бұрын
First he says "main computers are from 1988" then he says "it can take years to certify that a laptop can survive in space" and by that time it's already out of date". If the actual ISS computers are from 1988 I don't see how newer laptops with years of certification could be considered out of date. Logical fallacy?
@brine_909
@brine_909 2 жыл бұрын
out of date by those on the ground's perspective not by what's already there. obviously anything they add now will be new compared to what is already there, that was never the argument. its just that by the time they send a RTX 3090 there better graphics cards will be commercially available on the ground
@svetre87
@svetre87 2 жыл бұрын
@@brine_909 we are talking about what they use on the ISS and comparing it to that only. Makes no sense to compare the technology needed in one specific field with the one used in a other entirely.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Жыл бұрын
There were computers on the station that had CPUs and GPUs that were so new they had only just come on the market. Not radiation hardened, and they survived for years.
@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT
@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT Жыл бұрын
So you can't really "cancel" Russia without fully cancelling Russia.
@jonharrison3114
@jonharrison3114 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully this causes a for all mankind situation and there’s a giants technological leap.
@adamanderson3042
@adamanderson3042 2 жыл бұрын
6:46 I mean, if we are talking about the future, I would bet my kidney that Axiom or the NASA commercial space stations are fully operational long before Russia's new space station is operational, so probably a lot more than 3 space stations.
@erideimos1207
@erideimos1207 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks! 4:54 Cygnus has demonstrated reboost capacity so we don't need Russia. And 'leaving after 2024' was a misunderstanding. The Russians just meant "after 2024" as in 2027, 28 whenever. We decided they meant 2025. 8:50 LOL Does anyone even recognize the Soviet colors anymore? 6:50 Remember, one Starship has more pressurized volume than the entire ISS. Build one to stay in LEO and it's a station. Build eight and join them up. Spin two for partial gravity around the hub. One can be a prop tanker. Lots of bots. Do it all for 1% of the cost of ONE SLS launch. With orbital refilling, put real Stations around the Moon, Mars, L2 etc. All other stations = pointless.
@skywatcher2025
@skywatcher2025 Жыл бұрын
The sheer amount of dev time alone would warrant creating "classic" stations in LEO before committing to the "artificial gravity Starship station".
@erideimos1207
@erideimos1207 Жыл бұрын
@@skywatcher2025 Oh sure, and we actually want and need 0 g to do stuff. I meant down the road, when there are enough people in 0g to make some g environment up there to save people trips up and down the well. But not that far into the future: The tech and engineering to tether two Starships nose to nose 100m apart and use TVCs to impart rotation seems straightforward. And tether length isn't that much of a constraint.
@AHHHHHHHH21
@AHHHHHHHH21 Жыл бұрын
Well uh, there's one problem. Starship most likely will not be crewed, simply due to its landing profile, and what would be the point of such station? To just have some people up there?
@erideimos1207
@erideimos1207 Жыл бұрын
@@AHHHHHHHH21 Dragon can fly to a Starship station just as easily as to ISS. And there is more to the ISS than just having people up there though Starship could certainly have a lot more. The point is one Starship is better than the entire ISS in terms of maneuverability and pressurized volume and layout. And costs less than 1%. And finally, certainly the plan is that Starship will one day land with people, after many cargo landings. Cargo Dragon to Crew Dragon took about 10 years. So, lots of problems but that's not one of them.
@bearbenton5945
@bearbenton5945 6 ай бұрын
I don't think they're trying to take their part I think they are talking about putting a new, modern station up there. Why build a "modern" station out of something with computers from 1988?
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