ngl that's full on hahaha

lmaooooo thats the perfect way to describe it xD

Exactly 😂😂

U mathing mate😂❤

Mathematically correct stacking

Your name must be Matthew

You'd be amazing at warframe with all that calculation goin on in your head

i guess i got carried away

ya ill have to say both as a arguement to you and zwag, ya that ashe was not skilled. didnt dodge abilities, pushed up lane without warding, didnt farm correctly, doesnt know when or not to engage. i just dont see how thats skilled. she knows how to engage 1/4 of the time and knows how to side step while autoing, thats it :/

@@kidzak98 yeah lol she was bad

at least im not the only one that thought so.@@franzferdinand2240

what cope ive never seen more braindead ashe

yall have to understand low elos *can* have good micro. she's not skilled, she's mechanically savvy. outside that she was a literal potato. all she was doing was autoing zwag away whenever he got in range. if actual skill was present, she (an adc) would know better than trying to run down a veigar (a burst mage) who has a stun, not only in lane but throughout the entire game. zwag mentioned how she was running his teammates down but anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows you can't turn your back on ashe or she'll slow you to your death, combined with the fact that none in his team is equipped to deal with her perma slow other than sej.

What is orb walking

@@nicholasschwing5292When an adc walks between autos. The user has to click between each auto so the character can kite better. Idk why its called orb walking

@@mattchooblink It's a term that originated from DotA i'm pretty sure

​@@nicholasschwing5292Dota had items like Orb of Venom and Orb of Frost that would slow players down when hit with an auto. So the slowing auto - kite - slowing auto became known as Orb Walking.

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He’s doing his best to math ok lmao

I think he was confusing the ap and cs per minute. 50 something ap per minute is not bad either.

It's a Zwag vid. He kinda ropes you in with silly clickbaitish titles and then you fall in love with his relaxed and calm entertaining games that somehow make even early laning interesting.

@@lotion5238 True he clickbaits nonstop, but I think this one was a genuine miscalculation. At one point he literally said he had 100 AP per minute in game.

I chalk it up to the elo. That's better overall gameplay than most silvers and golds. That tactic would've worked against most silver mids, which is probably why she did it. It'll get her hardstuck in plat at the highest, but vs crappy low elo noobers, it'll win you games.

@@Malicious2013 It was just weird to watch, totally could have been a player overestimating their ability but it almost felt like watching a bot play. And I can see that a lot of players would have gotten smashed by that playstyle mid, assuming it was a player they got unlucky with their opponent and didn't know how to adjust after.

@@nadtz Zwag can make high elo players look like shit, so the fact that this Ashe got his attention puts it so far beyond any bot that I've seen. I agree that the play style was a little odd, but bots are at least consistently odd. She'd have been good at dodging if she were a bot, I'd think. 🤣

@@Malicious2013 I'm not disagreeing, just the disparity between the mechanics and the game sense was really odd to me. Made for a funny video anyways.

I would not be surprised if she stopped caring after Trundle started flaming hard. A lot of the time, if someone flames a single death or missed skill shot, I stop trying to hit shit.

Yeah I liked that ashe, i was rooting for her

Yeah, but she gave Zwag a pretty good early challenge. If she weren't fighting a challenger smurf, she'd probably have mopped the entire game. That's the point. Her mechanics are really solid.

She also got camped pretty hard lol. Sej was mid a lot and trundle came like twice.

@@Ninguin true though but when enemy is inside of your turret why not get a free kill + Trundle can't gank zwag when he is inside his own

​@@Malicious2013that's just Ashe though, she's strong early. Continuously running it down is what makes them a bad player. Like when you get outplayed 4 times and keep doing the same thing, you are no longer a good player.

@Movienut1992 There are different aspects of players that can be good and bad. One can be bad at csing and very good mechanically. Ashe isn't the best player, but a net average of her abilities would seem to make her better than many, if not most. She made some mistakes vs a challenger smurf. Taking your logic to its extreme, would we say that anybody that Zwag steamrolls is a bad player? If Zwag loses to somebody and dies a lot, is he a bad player? Is there even a such thing as a good player? We go by overall metrics when determining these things. Ashe showed a lot of skill, even if there was questionable decision-making. Trundle may have also tilted him/her. It's not always as simple as "player die. Player bad" That would make 99% of players total shit because Zwag would stomp them.

Ioki is a Leona main so probably.

it means this guy is smurfing and anyone belonging to that actual rank would lose lane

this dude plays against bronze and silver players in the majority of his games what do u mean the best person to watch play lmao

I hope ur trolling xD

@@trinexx2600 It's sad people can't tell anymore.

@@twodeeblue well it’s hard to tell cuz u got no pfp, makes it seem like you’re a boomer or something… at least to me :v

exactly, the ashe was playing pretty well, she kind of pushed TOO aggresively, this costed her team the game, a fed veiger just mops basically everyone that isnt a tank

@@Elel765 i assume people who watch his vids are people who also play the game, so it was really for anyone to answer, hopefully maybe someone who tried it out before.

And it’s +50Ap/minute

How do you gank a veigar who is constantly under turret? He cages and gets out and potentially even kills one with turret aggro

@izjgxj4275 i dunno, communicate with ashe to back up so veigar is gankable. Use ashe ult. Wait till veigar uses stun. You're trundle, you can tank turret agro whill ashe right clicks him to death. You can dodge 3 of veigars 4 abilities and with the ms that trundle has it isnt even hard

@izjgxj4275 the problem here is that trundle didnt even try to help mid, he was late for a counter gank and got tilted

@@janderman1041 I mean we also can't see their team chat so we have no idea if he asked ashe to back off to set up a gank or not before she chain died like 4 times or so by being hyper aggressive without vision of the enemy jungler. Like she was pushed up to his tower every time she got back to lane after a gank.

@Robbie1okay yeah, the ashe didn't make it easy, and we don't know if trundle tried talking. There were a handful of windows while the wave was frozen before ashe started pushing where trundle could have come in from behind, but for the most part, veigar was under turret. Im not trying to defend the ashe here lol

I mean it's a champ diff, he could have killed her with enough time to scale sejuani just accelerated the process