What Happens When You Remove a Dam

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The US is deconstructing four dams along the Klamath River.
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@TheB1M
@TheB1M 11 ай бұрын
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@jjc2896
@jjc2896 11 ай бұрын
No! Bad B1M. Masterworks is a questionable sponsor.
@jgeur
@jgeur 11 ай бұрын
@@jjc2896 right up there with crypto, nft's, and tulips.
@mr.boomguy
@mr.boomguy 11 ай бұрын
@@jjc2896 I would like to hear your opinion on why. I'm just curious, not reprimanding
@fourutubez7294
@fourutubez7294 11 ай бұрын
Ponzi scheme in a pseudo intellectual wrapper
@jordannieland365
@jordannieland365 11 ай бұрын
You had this video in your folder for quite a while and realized now was the perfect time to play the algorithm, didn't you?
@klein648
@klein648 11 ай бұрын
3:03 "No dam project of this size has ever been torn down" - Well there was a massive dam project that has been torn down in record time just a few days ago. Rip Nova Kakhovka dam
@MrRorySteel
@MrRorySteel 11 ай бұрын
Rip Nord stream. America the antagonist as usual.
@mla2385
@mla2385 11 ай бұрын
not to think about what toxins are buried in these sedidemts over the decades which are now spilled over the fields. Don't think they can plant any crops there very soon
@seregiel9541
@seregiel9541 11 ай бұрын
​@@mla2385 Trust me, the decrease of fires and increase of salmon stock are worth far more. Plus lack of water hurts agg and in OR often hydrodams, fish, and farming are fighting over it. This removes one of the competitions to long term benefit of the farms.
@EddieBurke
@EddieBurke 11 ай бұрын
Inb4 orcs in the comments
@robertmusil1107
@robertmusil1107 11 ай бұрын
Good one
@alexandermallinckrodt2847
@alexandermallinckrodt2847 11 ай бұрын
I think Russia’s just conducted the world’s largest dam removal, actually.
@Madridista789
@Madridista789 11 ай бұрын
@@Zuluknob Ruzzia.
@michelbruns
@michelbruns 11 ай бұрын
@@Zuluknob yes, ukraine destroys its own infrastructure, risks the live of thousands of its own people only to make russia look even worse than it does already
@Wanderlauch
@Wanderlauch 11 ай бұрын
@@Zuluknob 🤡🤡🤡
@mancuniangamecat8288
@mancuniangamecat8288 11 ай бұрын
@ zuluknob don't be so gullible. 🤡
@SomeKidFromBritain
@SomeKidFromBritain 11 ай бұрын
Too soon
@GeekyMedia
@GeekyMedia 11 ай бұрын
This video has obviously been in development for a while (like most of the B1M vids I’d imagine). You can’t just create a video like this in a day. Also, last weeks video was on the creation of a dam/reservoir - this is like the other side of that. Either way, great work The B1M 👍
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray 11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile in Ukraine....a dam is removed overnight.
@RamonInNZ
@RamonInNZ 11 ай бұрын
@@Mrbfgray 😞
@Locutus
@Locutus 10 ай бұрын
Most professional KZfaq videos take about a week to produce. This video would have taken a week or two to produce, although little bits of it might have been produced months ago.
@Church_Of_Kloppism
@Church_Of_Kloppism 8 ай бұрын
​@@Locutustry months not weeks lol. Some of these take months to make
@Locutus
@Locutus 8 ай бұрын
@@Church_Of_Kloppism Lol, lol, lol, lol. Soooo sooo funny. Lol.
@MrLense
@MrLense 11 ай бұрын
Bro really timed releasing this video with this specific topic on top of current recent events
@mr.boomguy
@mr.boomguy 11 ай бұрын
My thought too. But I bet they've had planned this video for weeks beforehand. So I'm sure it's just unfortunate coincidence
@hoponlopo8690
@hoponlopo8690 11 ай бұрын
This is The World's SECOND Largest Dam Removal
@brunor832
@brunor832 11 ай бұрын
Dark humor at its finest, I dig it
@bigtxbullion
@bigtxbullion 11 ай бұрын
Spontaneous
@gomahklawm4446
@gomahklawm4446 11 ай бұрын
I don't get it. American meme?
@Pasta_Pirate
@Pasta_Pirate 11 ай бұрын
@@gomahklawm4446 no a Ukrainian & Russian meme.
@Knight_Kin
@Knight_Kin 11 ай бұрын
@@gomahklawm4446 Someone blew up a large damn along the Dniper river, it's unclear who did it.
@metjetfan23
@metjetfan23 11 ай бұрын
90,000 dams? In the US? Would never have guess that.
@thomashiggins9320
@thomashiggins9320 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. We spent decades in the late 19th and early 20th centuries building them. Some should always remain -- most of the Tennessee Valley Authority dams need to stay right where they are, as do the ones on the Colorado River. But others -- such as these along the Klamath River, have filled with sediment to such an extent that they have limited utility (and so shallow they cause the algae blooms), and we're a lot more aware of environmental concerns.
@Zantides
@Zantides 11 ай бұрын
It's all sorts of sizes though, from hoover dam to beaver dam. I don't know if they count beaver dams 😂
@jayspeidell
@jayspeidell 11 ай бұрын
The US used to have higher taxes and less military spending.
@Tutkanator
@Tutkanator 11 ай бұрын
It's closer to 200,000. Only 30,000 are inventoried
@Knight_Kin
@Knight_Kin 11 ай бұрын
@@jayspeidell The US had no income tax during the period these dams were built. Don't make up stuff you clearly know nothing about.
@kevinbrown4892
@kevinbrown4892 11 ай бұрын
I do hope we are going to follow this story in the upcoming years.
@Nionix123
@Nionix123 11 ай бұрын
Look up the Elwha River Damn removal
@kevinbrown4892
@kevinbrown4892 11 ай бұрын
@@Nionix123 Most informative, thanks.
@lohengrin5082
@lohengrin5082 6 ай бұрын
It’s certainly a big damn problem
@jdsd_
@jdsd_ 2 ай бұрын
yeah, lets remove all dams because of the nature and then get huge floods and electricity shortage
@davidlrogers
@davidlrogers Ай бұрын
@@jdsd_ literally nobody said that we should, bozo
@LuigiMordelAlaume
@LuigiMordelAlaume 11 ай бұрын
This dam video showing all these dam projects is crazy. Might be time to go on a dam road trip and see these dam structures.
@kn377
@kn377 6 ай бұрын
We've been doing this in Washington state for some years now, really amazing to see after the dam is gone.
@FIGHTTHECABLE
@FIGHTTHECABLE 11 ай бұрын
So no dams, but grid stability? I don't see this working.
@nighthiker8872
@nighthiker8872 Ай бұрын
THIS IS THE NEW, NEW SCIENCE! THE ONE THAT SAYS "GOT YET" again !
@gregessex1851
@gregessex1851 11 ай бұрын
Ironic timing given the destruction of the dam in Ukraine 🇺🇦 today.
@bananan7
@bananan7 11 ай бұрын
yesterday though
@GeekyMedia
@GeekyMedia 11 ай бұрын
Probably been creating this video for weeks. Last weeks video was also on a dam / reservoir
@mr.boomguy
@mr.boomguy 11 ай бұрын
@@GeekyMedia I'm glad someone wrote basically the same thing I just did
@vadimveskreb8764
@vadimveskreb8764 11 ай бұрын
@@GeekyMedia maybe the b1m can predict future?? oh no
@jordannieland365
@jordannieland365 11 ай бұрын
Ironic? This video was probably released to play the algorithm.
@brandob9
@brandob9 11 ай бұрын
I first paddled the Klamath almost 20 years ago, and even at that time the uselessness of these four dams was plainly evident from water level.
@scottjohnston6768
@scottjohnston6768 10 ай бұрын
do you use electricity?
@brandob9
@brandob9 10 ай бұрын
@@scottjohnston6768 I do! But these dams are very easily replaced by a few wind turbines and solar panels. 18 MW of capacity is 4-6 wind turbines now.
@jimperdue6166
@jimperdue6166 10 ай бұрын
@@brandob9 I moved to this area 4 years ago, so I am learning the ins and outs of the issue of removing these 4 dams. Clean energy is a goal of not only CA, and the US, but around the globe. Removing the dams removes a source of clean energy. The reservoirs (water) are used for domestic use, farming and sometimes for firefighting. CA has seen the number of devastating fires grow, esp. over the last few years. My family was evacuated from our home last summer because of a wildfire. I know from personal experience the hardship created when our domestic well went dry, two years in a row. Water is a huge deal, not only in CA where I live, but in the southwestern states. Water storage and clean energy are being removed along with the dams. Plus, the property value loss to homeowners who live near the reservoirs, with no compensation from the government. This issue was put before voters and the result was 60-70% of voters want the dams to stay. Ignoring the voice of the voters is a violation of the constitution. What is going to happen to the Klamath River in an extended drought, and there are no reservoirs to release water to help the fish survive? So no, I don't think this is a great idea to remove the dams. And yes, the salmon and other species are important, esp. to the two native tribes who live here. There's got to be a better way.
@TheMasterofComment
@TheMasterofComment 10 ай бұрын
​@@jimperdue6166as the dams actually contributing much to electricity generation if they're below useable water levels most of the time?
@jimperdue6166
@jimperdue6166 10 ай бұрын
@@TheMasterofComment I don't know if that is true or not. Even if it were, CA and this area have water problems. Plus wildfires, the reservoirs can be used to help firefighters do their job.
@iztrix
@iztrix 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see you going back to this project for the water unleashing when the projects are ready for it. Would be a great followup video with some fun shots of loada of water 😊
@abrahambarr8736
@abrahambarr8736 10 ай бұрын
I grew up in Siskiyou County (where the dams are) and now live in Klamath Falls. I did some survey work for one of the restoration efforts as well. People have been arguing about this project since I was a kid so its pretty cool to see it get featured here!
@gaivscaesar
@gaivscaesar 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video buff architecture man
@sashakimknechtinruprecht
@sashakimknechtinruprecht 10 ай бұрын
In which way is the energy these dams produced replaced? How were they operated in terms of power production? More like peak hour supply or more on a base load pattern? I am not an electric power expert, but I know that in terms of wind- and sun-based power generation it will be important to have complementary possibilities to fill in gaps in windless times with lack of sunny weather.
@melvinice5727
@melvinice5727 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone who has common sense!👺
@robertball3578
@robertball3578 10 ай бұрын
With the push for electric vehicles of all sizes, and elimination of natural gas, it seems like a bad time to remove power generation until the replacement is in service. Don't fall the coal fired power plants already shut down.
@DanielKelentey
@DanielKelentey 10 ай бұрын
Hope they won't solve it in the German way!
@MTNGear
@MTNGear 10 ай бұрын
Oil and gas have been lobbying hard for the removal of hydro power
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 9 ай бұрын
Nope🙃 They just increased interstate imports natural gas and coal fired generation from the upper midwest.
@ElDJReturn
@ElDJReturn 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering my state! This is quite an impressive project!
@wileycoyote556
@wileycoyote556 11 ай бұрын
It's also an absolutely insane, irresponsible destruction of low-carbon energy infrastructure that we will regret for generations.
@Clove_Parma
@Clove_Parma 11 ай бұрын
@@wileycoyote556 There are methods of low carbon energy production that don't destroy fish populations and habitats. That said I reckon they should keep hydro in the mix until there's enough solar and wind power to justify removal without putting pollution targets backward
@wileycoyote556
@wileycoyote556 11 ай бұрын
Wind and solar don't replace load-following electricity capacity, they don't even provide base load capacity. You can build as much as you want and it won't replace these dams, ironically the best type of storage for wind and solar is hydro storage. Wind and solar also use a massive amount of land and have a detrimental effect on many species of animal for this reason (and others, for wind.)
@thomashiggins9320
@thomashiggins9320 11 ай бұрын
@@wileycoyote556 These dams are so full of sediment, after 100 years, they've nearly reached the end of the useful lives anyway.
@wileycoyote556
@wileycoyote556 11 ай бұрын
Throwing away infrastructure without replacing is not the answer to issues with extended maintenence. Multiple strategies exist to address sedimentation in dams, tearing it down is not necessary and no expert source that I've seen has stated that it is. Oregon won't replace this power with wind and solar, in fact the primary fuel source among east Oregon utilities is coal.
@jaymzgaetz2006
@jaymzgaetz2006 8 ай бұрын
It doesn't have to be expensive...mother nature will do it for free.
@user-gj5wr2qt7q
@user-gj5wr2qt7q 11 ай бұрын
DamNation 2014 - Great documentary about US dams and their removal.... A touch old but holds up.
@vanguard9067
@vanguard9067 11 ай бұрын
There are so many under-engineered and unsafe smaller dams, we should expect an increasing rate of dam removal during the following decades.
@deus_ex_machina_
@deus_ex_machina_ 11 ай бұрын
When it comes to safety weirs are considerably more dangerous, more numerous, and much cheaper and easier to remove.
@vanguard9067
@vanguard9067 11 ай бұрын
@@deus_ex_machina_ very good point. I don’t think,they are mutually exclusive projects. I would hope that governments and stakeholders prioritize all projects to achieve the most safety, economic, cultural, and environmental benefits .
@deus_ex_machina_
@deus_ex_machina_ 11 ай бұрын
@@vanguard9067 Indeed. I neglected to mention that weirs were more dangerous for those traversing the river, whether swimming or in a canoe/kayak, but they don't pose a flood risk for downstream communities like larger reservoirs do. It also depends on how much you care about ecological damage. A native tribe might come to a very different conclusion than a mining company, on that front. Engineering is a matter of balancing trade-offs, after all, and the US is in for a gargantuan effort repairing and replacing its crumbling infrastructure. The only way to take decisive action while also balancing stakeholders who have competing or even opposing demands is to price in the 'externalities', an example would be a carbon tax. The other option would be to let AI decide, but even that would merely perpetuate our biases in the weights given to the various trade-offs.
@vanguard9067
@vanguard9067 11 ай бұрын
@@deus_ex_machina_ I figured that’s what you meant about weirs. I pictured one in my head on the Potomac River used to ensure the necessary level to feed the Washington, DC water system. Seems every couple of years someone gets trapped (or worse) there. Yes, a gargantuan effort, one for which I am not sure the public understands the necessity. I hope the money spent will evaluate/incorporate e sustainability in project planning, design, construction, and maintenance. Think as long-term as feasible. Ah externalities, so often overlooked, ignored, hidden in unfettered capitalism. I am still shocked that most of the US environmental statutes and regulations were put in place during the Nixon administration, with strong support from both parties. It is hard to imagine that level of agreement now. As one portion of my career, I performed siting analyses and environmental impact assessments, finding that applying weighting on top of ranking of the analytical criteria, resulted in a false sense of accuracy and precision. AI would first need to learn that lesson to be at all useful, but in practice a single person or AI can’t deliver a good result. I prefer a mini-Delphi approach, during which the challenge is identifying the right people to participate. I learned so much from those people, as well has fun doing the work. Have a great day and a nice week.
@r.d.9399
@r.d.9399 11 ай бұрын
The more they remove the better. This is great news.
@richardmcleod1930
@richardmcleod1930 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the waterscould redirected toward Portland and flush out the filth now so prevalent in the City.
@David-rx5eo
@David-rx5eo 8 ай бұрын
They can do that with the Willamette and Columbia rivers.
@furripupau
@furripupau 11 ай бұрын
With predicted water shortages coming in the near future I do question if the fish are the more important consideration here.
@justinkraus1687
@justinkraus1687 8 ай бұрын
Going through a drought “let’s take the dams down” make sense to me
@hrimfaxi1
@hrimfaxi1 2 ай бұрын
Who came here to see dam removal ?
@johnmilovich2195
@johnmilovich2195 11 ай бұрын
The Condit dam on the White Salmon river in OR was removed over a year without incident.
@justicedemocrat9357
@justicedemocrat9357 11 ай бұрын
I heard that since the condit dam was removed fifteen thousand ppl around the area mysteriously died of an unknown illness.
@NatureShy
@NatureShy 11 ай бұрын
That's in WA, not OR btw
@alibarron7558
@alibarron7558 9 ай бұрын
We still have no more fish and unfortunately no electricity, only taxes. White Salmon drains into the Columbia, which is the Boundary between Oregon & Washington. A lot of what affects people on one side, also affects the other.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 9 ай бұрын
And they're now missing 14.7 megawatts of clean electricity that has been replaced with expensive natural gas firing. 🙃
@Shinkajo
@Shinkajo 4 ай бұрын
​@@alibarron7558if you have no electricity, how are you on the internet then?
@garytrawinski1843
@garytrawinski1843 10 ай бұрын
I like the way you show a decaying salmon in the water like the dam cause it. The fish die after they spawn.
@Sennmut
@Sennmut 8 ай бұрын
Sshhh!!!!! No need to obscure things with facts!!!!!!
@haydenhatcher9314
@haydenhatcher9314 6 ай бұрын
As a local of these areas I love to see this topic get some discussion
@russellzauner
@russellzauner 11 ай бұрын
I live in Oregon and many people are hopeful that we can uncover Celilo Falls someday.
@uriahlevi8640
@uriahlevi8640 11 ай бұрын
Dams along the Grand Columbia will be harder to get rid off and the energy consequences are just too huge comparing to the Klamath Dams
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 9 ай бұрын
Do you propose to get your electricity from unicorn farts? 🦄 ☁️ ⚡ 💡
@rollinwithunclepete824
@rollinwithunclepete824 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Fred! Very interesting. Never would have guessed how much goes into getting rid of a dam.
@Lachgummei
@Lachgummei 10 ай бұрын
Okay to be fair i am a Civil Engineer so i have more indepth look on construction. But seriously, you never would have guessed? Infrastrucural Problems aside, Controlling thousands of tons of water never appeared to be a difficulty?
@mac_tire_aonair
@mac_tire_aonair 11 ай бұрын
Another dam great video, Fred ;-) Thanks mate!
@MadridWalker
@MadridWalker 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for sharing! Happy week to everyone! 😊😊
@lorizold349
@lorizold349 2 ай бұрын
I worked at Copco 2 when the equipment was overhauled in 2007/2008. It was a beautiful place even with the dam. I’d love to see it what it looks like now that it’s gone.
@Frenchylikeshikes
@Frenchylikeshikes 10 ай бұрын
Dams were build everywhere in the past. We are now in a time when many smaller, obsolete, dams are actually removed, and many smaller rivers are finally being restored.
@alessandrodamato5059
@alessandrodamato5059 9 ай бұрын
What kind of electrical source will it be replaced by?
@Shorkshire
@Shorkshire 11 ай бұрын
So where does the replacement electricity come from?
@apokalipsx25
@apokalipsx25 11 ай бұрын
Man. You found the best time to put a video about Dams on youtube )))
@vectorm4
@vectorm4 10 ай бұрын
What method/ source is replacing the power? What was hydro-electric, what is the new power source?
@AgiHammerthief
@AgiHammerthief 11 ай бұрын
been following the Elwah removal since I first heard about it. This sounds great.
@eschudy
@eschudy 11 ай бұрын
So, exactly how much money do the dam removals save? And over what time period? And does it take into account replacing the electricity for 70K homes with as much reliability?
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 11 ай бұрын
That's why they'll never dismantle the O'Shaughnessy Dam inside Yosemite National Park. It would cost way too much money and the loss of water storage and power generation will cause even more problems.
@Sumbutta
@Sumbutta 11 ай бұрын
Cost of maintenance over decades vs one time removal? Many dams have deferred maintenance that can no longer be ignored. Resevoirs behind dams fill up with sediment and greatly reduce their capacity to hold water, their primary function. The ecological impacts of dams are also devastating to river systems
@Sacto1654
@Sacto1654 11 ай бұрын
@@Sumbutta The O'Shaughnessy Dam is not a small dam. It would be enormously expensive to drain the lake, remove the dam, restore the land behind the dam, raise Don Pedro Dam 35 feet downstream, build new water aqueducts from Don Pedro Dam and build new hydroelectric power plants at Don Pedro Dam. The cost could be over US$25 billion, if they're lucky!
@Pasos1Two3
@Pasos1Two3 11 ай бұрын
They don't save money or help the people who live in the areas. Dams help with water storage, power creation, and flood control. Removing them isn't about prioritizing the environment as flooding can cause enormous environment, social and economic damage. So a better question is why are governments and organizations pushing this agenda?
@tbird81
@tbird81 11 ай бұрын
It's like Germany getting rid of its nuclear plants and replacing them with coal.
@pavelmyshov464
@pavelmyshov464 11 ай бұрын
Ok, I understand, the Salmon habitat. But with what kind of electricity sources these dams will be replaced? Hydro power is CO2 neutral, while US still doesn't have a lot of Nuclear or Solar power plants
@matthewmattchoo6621
@matthewmattchoo6621 11 ай бұрын
Next up will be everyone whining about the skyrocketing cost of power ( pacific power anyone?? ) blackouts / brownouts, and a new Nuclear Power plant being built...
@pavelmyshov464
@pavelmyshov464 11 ай бұрын
@@matthewmattchoo6621 Nuclear power plants are great, we should definitely build more of them
@lolly166541
@lolly166541 10 ай бұрын
Being CO2 neutral doesn't equate to being environmentally good. Your EV, may be as a car itself relatively co2 neutral, but the production is everything but that, maintenance etc isn't either. Same way as Solar is also horrific for the environment, simply because it can't be recycled profitable, meaning it'll just rot and bring toxic shit in to the ground. What we have to focus on is becoming good for nature, that means rebuilding nature to its natural way AND bringing Civilization back to a more in touch way.
@simsreject5925
@simsreject5925 9 ай бұрын
​@@pavelmyshov464The West Coast is also removing its nuclear capacity. They're trying to replace the hydro with wind to mixed results. A lot of people want to move much of its hydro out to sea by transitioning tidal generators.
@pavelmyshov464
@pavelmyshov464 9 ай бұрын
@@simsreject5925 hydro cannot be replaced by wind, because hydro is a base generation, it produces electricity 24/7, while the wind is unpredictable and produces electricity at random. Nuclear can replace hydro, but we dont see much of it either. Overall, its pretty weird to reduce amount of energy produced by carbon free sources while we all try to fight climate change
@aikulovekitten6501
@aikulovekitten6501 11 ай бұрын
When they built the dam, the river was rerouted. Why not make a route for the fish....catch 2 fish with one hook 😮
@spooky.-
@spooky.- 10 ай бұрын
I don’t think removing renewable energy from the grid when we need more desperately is a smart idea.
@CraigGrant-sh3in
@CraigGrant-sh3in 3 ай бұрын
It's being replaced by much less environmentally damaging green energy
@sammythompson3694
@sammythompson3694 2 ай бұрын
Sure it is.
@mikkelkirketerp4884
@mikkelkirketerp4884 28 күн бұрын
It's a brilliant idea to finally see the havoc these dams wreak upon the natural habitats. Then we can always generate that power in a better way, like nuclear.
@sammythompson3694
@sammythompson3694 27 күн бұрын
We have a nuclear plant near us and pay 8.5¢ watt. Those near the Smokys with hydroelectric pay 5¢ watt. Say what you want about bird killing windmills or habitat stealing solar farms green energy won't be enough to electrify the country.
@mikkelkirketerp4884
@mikkelkirketerp4884 27 күн бұрын
@@sammythompson3694 thats still incredibly cheap! We usually pay 35-45US cents pr kWh here in Denmark.
@JanSanono
@JanSanono 11 ай бұрын
Interesting timing
@investmentmaker2887
@investmentmaker2887 11 ай бұрын
Dam! I'm here early.
@JohnDunkley
@JohnDunkley 2 ай бұрын
It's great to see. It would be nice to see a before and after video not just the proposal. You mentioned 65 dams removed. How are they doing? Is it having a positive effect on the wildlife?
@rd9102
@rd9102 11 ай бұрын
So what are they doing to replace the power lost from these 4 damns?
@eily_b
@eily_b 11 ай бұрын
Like they said in the video. Easily replaced by other dams
@rd9102
@rd9102 11 ай бұрын
@@eily_b Until the "other" dams are at max capacity and then what? Oh sorry we don't have power for you anymore...
@GazMoby
@GazMoby 11 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable as usual 👍
@bigfish222
@bigfish222 11 ай бұрын
Without removing the 2 dams immediately upstream of the JC Boyle Dam I don't see how this project will change conditions much.
@liamwinter4512
@liamwinter4512 11 ай бұрын
It makes their tummy's feel warm after they pay each other's backs.
@jfletch09
@jfletch09 11 ай бұрын
both Keno and link river dams contain fish ladders. Additionally, neither of these two dams were ever the main drivers of the toxic algae blooms that have devastated fish populations.
@bigfish222
@bigfish222 11 ай бұрын
@@jfletch09 Yeah the ladders should help some, but Upper Klamath Lake has routine blue green algae advisories where people shouldn't swim in the lake.
@stormelemental13
@stormelemental13 11 ай бұрын
@@bigfish222 That is true and primarily a result of fertilizer runoff. The dam removal should open up habitat in the stream below the Keno dam and potentially in the areas above Klamath Lake. Even when there are toxic algae blooms in the lake itself, the rivers that feed into it remain quite clean. Not sure whether this is all worth it, but it should allow fish access all the way up into the upper tributaries.
@NomadUniverse
@NomadUniverse 8 ай бұрын
The large flowing dams arent the issue. Its the ones that reduce water to a trickle or stop it that need to go. We had it with the Murray river here. Absolutely destroyed.
@breakingborders
@breakingborders 10 ай бұрын
I was just there! The river is beautiful.
@allenkramer2143
@allenkramer2143 11 ай бұрын
With all due respect to the commentary. I believe there is a misunderstanding. As stated in the beginning, these Dams no longer serve the purpose they were built for. No one is suggesting every Dam should be taken out.
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick 11 ай бұрын
the issue is fulfilling an "intended purpose" of course those dams are! it's the unintended consequences that are realized with time
@Robbie64
@Robbie64 8 ай бұрын
How the hell is it cheaper to tear down a dam than building a salmon ladder
@StallionFernando
@StallionFernando 3 ай бұрын
Would love a follow up on this. A part 2.
@supermrmcandrewson
@supermrmcandrewson 11 ай бұрын
Well done on keeping a straight face during your dam pun. There better be a blooper reel for it!
@soly-dp-colo6388
@soly-dp-colo6388 6 ай бұрын
A lot of small are currently being removed in France and Spain too. It's not just in the United States.
@samuelchappell7280
@samuelchappell7280 9 ай бұрын
Much of the sediment behind the damns are rich in nutrients good for planting and/or raising crops. What if the sediment was "washed" of a good portion of the nutrients, and what sediment is left could be used as bedding for a number of animals? You would have "fertilizer" for crops, and bedding for farm animals. What's left of the physical damn could be recycled for other projects. In all, what was spent on taking out the damn could be made back through this technique.
@tillertechnical5537
@tillertechnical5537 6 ай бұрын
The documentary on the Elwah dam removal is really special and worth a watch to see the value of this work being done. Great vid b1m
@user-ek3em5km5r
@user-ek3em5km5r 4 ай бұрын
that was a dam that was no longer needed for what it was built for.
@michaelmontgomery5141
@michaelmontgomery5141 11 ай бұрын
Abalone fishing was greatly diminished after environmental laws were implemented in the 1960’s. This created an enormous turn around in Pacific Ocean ecosystem along the California Coast. As evidenced by increasing sea otter population et al. Salmon provides the same foundation for ecosystems all the way into Idaho. We are part of this ecosystem and I wish to play the role of gardener as opposed to conqueror (manifest destiny).
@ersp1
@ersp1 11 ай бұрын
Something that many people don't realize is that the spawning fish are an important nitrogen (fertilizer) source in the watershed. The animals catching the fish or scavenging their carcasses distribute the nitrogen embodied in the fish protein on land by both scattering scraps and urinating after eating.
@Luddite-vd2ts
@Luddite-vd2ts 11 ай бұрын
I can only pray that Ethiopian officialdom sees this and reconsiders its project to dam the Nile.
@leegoddard2618
@leegoddard2618 10 ай бұрын
The human has become a terra former rather than a gardener.
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 10 ай бұрын
@@Luddite-vd2tsThose people are desperate for ways to provide energy and assist them in developing their societies. Hydro electricity is usually considered a good way to reduce dependency on coal fired power stations if the local geography is suitable. I guess there are other options though so what are your thoughts as an alternative? I’m asking respectfully.
@philtucker1224
@philtucker1224 10 ай бұрын
Removing good hydro electric power sources seems a very bad idea?
@stvdagger8074
@stvdagger8074 11 ай бұрын
B1M - "you wouldn't believe how hard it is to tear one down" 617 Squadron RAF - "Hold my beer!"
@jimsouthlondon7061
@jimsouthlondon7061 11 ай бұрын
Vladimir Putin ,hold my beer
@louisvandenbroucke4491
@louisvandenbroucke4491 9 ай бұрын
videos like this should include literature and sources, then I can cite it in academic papers
@Naultarous
@Naultarous 11 ай бұрын
Masterworks, legitimizing what criminals have done for centuries.
@bagsmohess
@bagsmohess 11 ай бұрын
He doesn't care as long as he gets that sponsorship $$$
@Abiesbracteata
@Abiesbracteata 11 ай бұрын
The B1M: the best dam content on KZfaq!
@JonathonV
@JonathonV 11 ай бұрын
Wondering about where they’re going to be getting their energy from. If it’s from fossil fuels, that isn’t exactly an environmental improvement. Maybe they’ll just buy more from BC, who produces 93% of its electricity from hydroelectric dams.
@Gummmibaer
@Gummmibaer 11 ай бұрын
Thats a valid point, but I guess your assumption might be right: This area doesnt seem to have a shortage of hydropower. And the video even says these dams were not running at their maximum a lot of the time. The big advantage of hydro power is that (normally) its running constantly. These here seem to have major problems with so I guess they werent profitable or really efficient anyways.
@justicedemocrat9357
@justicedemocrat9357 11 ай бұрын
Elon will be providing lithium batteries.
@smallfgb
@smallfgb 11 ай бұрын
Yes - seems like a bad idea to remove dams when we can’t make our climate change goals. This is about as shortsighted as countries in the EU turning off their nuclear plants. Seems by their actions many environmentalists don’t believe climate change is real. Solar and wind will not replace the generation from this. Hydro and nuclear are the only carbon free means to balance those techs with reliable 24h production.
@smallfgb
@smallfgb 11 ай бұрын
@@Gummmibaerreally hydro can be run like a big battery - one that doesn’t require mining and replacement every 20 years. If you let water build when solar/wind are working and run water down the turbines as those energy sources are not present, this balances without requiring natural gas generation (which loses efficiency being turned on/off too). Not being 100% on doesn’t remove the value of this for a balanced carbon free grid. In fact some dams pump up off peak and allow rundown on peak to balance grids. Ironically, I think CA plans to build one like that soon.
@slizzysluzzer
@slizzysluzzer 11 ай бұрын
These are all tiny little insignificant dams. Iron Gate in California only has an installed capacity of 18MW for example. Your average newly installed wind turbine has an installed capacity of 3MW for reference. So at most replacing Iron Gate in terms of capacity is six newly installed wind turbines. Of course installed capacity isn't actual power generation and both wind and water plus actual electrical grid demand can fluctuate, but the point is, these aren't massive energy sources no matter how you slice it. And note that wind turbines are getting bigger and more productive all the time - the largest offshore models these days get up to 15MW per unit so it's coming to a point where even a single wind turbine would supersede this dam. When you couple that with the downstream consequences of keeping these relatively insignificant, inefficient, old hydroelectric dams in place (algal blooms, erosion, water usage concerns etc etc) it becomes a far more cost-effective solution just to tear them down than to keep them maintained when other renewables are getting better by the year.
@radders261
@radders261 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant video as always!
@paulsmodels
@paulsmodels 9 ай бұрын
A dams main function is to store water in areas that are prone to regular drought, and in particular, areas with a large population with large water needs for drinking, cooking, bathing, and growing crops. There are certain by products if you will, from building large dams. Some are positive and some are negative. There has to be a sustainable balance between human needs, and the flora/fauna of the area that is impacted by the dam. In our society today, that balance is off because certain groups believe that their agenda is more important, and maintaining a balance is not important to them. It's tha same problem with our forests. Mega fires happen because the forest is "out of balance"thanks to certain groups that feel their cause is more important than everyone elses.
@David-rx5eo
@David-rx5eo 8 ай бұрын
Let's remove the humans and leave the dams...lol.
@ari-cowan
@ari-cowan 11 ай бұрын
Once again, superbly done. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
@JimmyN48
@JimmyN48 11 ай бұрын
Just think about what it would be like without even drinking water. I know you can just call Sparklets, Dasani or some other regional bottled water.
@Erik-rp1hi
@Erik-rp1hi 8 ай бұрын
A lot of dams where built for flood control. Unless they are silted up and the silt can't be removed then removing the dam is correct? But then flood control is lost?
@user-xt6bd4qm5g
@user-xt6bd4qm5g Ай бұрын
In Australia we build small dams all down rivers as it helps the eco system survive dry conditions. It works really well and creates oasis all down the river. Obviously these are just rock walls that the water fills and runs over.
@AltairTao
@AltairTao 11 ай бұрын
Great content B1M. Keep it up.
@dandandandandanJr
@dandandandandanJr 10 ай бұрын
While this is interesting, I notice he doesn't really go into the benefits of keeping the dams. Klamath has very short bursts of rain fall and some snow pack. Avoiding flooding is important in the area with the sandy soil, and spring the local agriculture industry throughout the long dry summers would be extremely difficult without the dams. That's not too mention the about of cheep power that the dams produce. Why is there no discussion of the benefits of keeping the dam?
@wildweasel3001
@wildweasel3001 11 ай бұрын
Actually looks simple, wish my work was that straightforward
@TommyOnTheRun
@TommyOnTheRun 11 ай бұрын
I think once you remove the dams nature will heal quite quickly.
@advladart
@advladart 11 ай бұрын
Damn
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been interested in dam removals for a while and it’s cool to see this subject getting more attention
@diavolo79
@diavolo79 9 ай бұрын
I pay for KZfaq premium to avoid assholes trying to sell something and this guy just plugs it in for them.
@mylifeintexas
@mylifeintexas 11 ай бұрын
It’s cool, we don’t need water, we can do without. The electricity produced can be replaced by cutting down large patches of forest and replacing them with solar and wind energy. Honestly if we want to save the planet we need to go back like it was in the year 1492 when everything was natural and everything was green.
@leonkernan
@leonkernan 11 ай бұрын
I was expecting a Ukraine video for some reason
@mr.boomguy
@mr.boomguy 11 ай бұрын
Me too for a sec. But that's Way too quick for content creators with this style
@snarkymoosesshack8793
@snarkymoosesshack8793 11 ай бұрын
@@mr.boomguy Yeah, ""creators"" like this need time to spin the narrative properly to rope in the NPC's.
@tocsa120ls
@tocsa120ls 11 ай бұрын
I'm googling rn how they plan to replace the power lost due to demolition. Will update when I find it.
@marzsit9833
@marzsit9833 11 ай бұрын
they assume that they can get unlimited power from the BPA...
@jfletch09
@jfletch09 11 ай бұрын
The klamath river hydroelectric project (the 4 dams being taken out) produces max 169 MW. As per the cal iso dashboard, California has the ability to call on 39,646 MW of available capacity. The power provided by these dams is a rounding error in the power portfolios of both California and Oregon. available capacity is more than able to compensate for the power generation being taken offline
@David-rx5eo
@David-rx5eo 8 ай бұрын
@@jfletch09 BS, Cali can't even keep the power on in the summer. We (yes, I live in Cali) already have rolling blackouts, and they want everyone to buy electric vehicles too. It is crazy in California.
@AhJodie
@AhJodie 6 ай бұрын
Yippie! Thank you!
@Zuschauerquaeler
@Zuschauerquaeler 11 ай бұрын
you all know that you can also build cascade stairs for fish?
@thomashiggins9320
@thomashiggins9320 11 ай бұрын
He specifically mentioned that in the video. The dams have reached the end of their useful lives, anyway. They're so full of sediment the water is shallow enough that it allows for toxic algae to bloom.
@Zuschauerquaeler
@Zuschauerquaeler 11 ай бұрын
@@thomashiggins9320 I didn't finish watching lol. But either way you can make these fish ladder quite safe, but I think the real issue is how dry the area is anyway and not that much of a height difference so it might not be worth it there compared to other places.
@bibekdas5595
@bibekdas5595 11 ай бұрын
The B1m is the my favourite you tube channel
@michaelg1827
@michaelg1827 11 ай бұрын
And lets all remember these are the same people that say fossil fuels are going to kill us and ruin the whole planet but lets get rid of our best renewable energy sources.
@simonh317
@simonh317 9 ай бұрын
Given the level of water this year, are the hydro plants running flat out?
@tackywhale5664
@tackywhale5664 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, these are the ONLY reasonable dam removals that should ever happen.
@harbl99
@harbl99 11 ай бұрын
"No dam project of this size has ever been torn down before..." * chuckles in 617 squadron RAF *
@NoobNoob1986
@NoobNoob1986 11 ай бұрын
Every time ive ever seen a dam i always thought about the fish. Its nice to see im not alone.
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent 11 ай бұрын
Since these are reservoirs. People are getting their drinking water from these reservoirs behind the dams. How are they going to replace this drinking water to the homes?
@BuzzSargent
@BuzzSargent 11 ай бұрын
@@johnperic6860 A reservoir this large will be difficult to replace for the homeowners. It's important to care for the people who live here.
@gong1616
@gong1616 10 ай бұрын
Times change and we have now applications on our phones unlike before. We got software that makes it possible to recycle electricity from active devices plugged in a wall socket.
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 9 ай бұрын
The government will just start rationing water. 🙃 A certain politial party loves artificially enforced energy and resource scarcity.
@David-rx5eo
@David-rx5eo 8 ай бұрын
@@gregorymalchuk272 everyone must buy electric cars that you won't be able to charge up!
@brachypelmasmith
@brachypelmasmith 8 ай бұрын
how are they replacing those 70 000 homes worth of electricity?
@rev.andyh.1082
@rev.andyh.1082 10 ай бұрын
This video answers all my dam questions.
@petterbirgersson4489
@petterbirgersson4489 10 ай бұрын
All damn questions.
@americanrambler4972
@americanrambler4972 11 ай бұрын
I wonder, was there any consideration to leaving limited portions of the dams with specific sized openings in them to provide some throttling of sudden high rate flows to limit down stream flooding and infrastructure damage to cominities the river passes through?
@LeTrashPanda
@LeTrashPanda 11 ай бұрын
They get plugged up with debris (like trees and limestone boulders) and stupid stuff that people push off into them (like washing machines) so good luck with that idea.
@simsreject5925
@simsreject5925 9 ай бұрын
Environmentalists tend to be single-minded in their solutions to a perceived problem. So I'm willing to bet almost no consideration was given to anything other than dam removal. But a floodgate system might be a good idea given how many problems CA has had in recent years with winter runoff wiping out areas downstream. The other problem is several of these dams were built to retain water for the arid summers in regions to the south. So now CA and OR are going to have more damaging flooding in the winter and spring and more damaging drought and wildfires in the summer.
@David-rx5eo
@David-rx5eo 8 ай бұрын
@@simsreject5925 this is the California way.
@CraigGrant-sh3in
@CraigGrant-sh3in 3 ай бұрын
Leaving openings doesn't allow the river to flow naturally.will hold back the sediment they need gone to return the river to its natural state . The big risk of damming up the river by debris getting caught in the opening and without costly maintenance on the remaining structure the concrete will crumble and cause problems when it collapses and also the chemical that leach from the concrete will affect the purity of the water which will affect the aquatic life in the river. Fish and other aquatic life may be able to live in contaminated water but it may not be able to successfully breed and sustain future generations. Plus, who wants to spoil nature with ugly concrete
@leegoddard2618
@leegoddard2618 10 ай бұрын
I'm all for the restoration of the environment. I went up to the Elwah, after that Dam was removed. My Only question is. How are we supplementing these losses. Now with all the EV and banning gas stoves and heating. Time to get a wood stove I guess. Set up my own little watermill for power. 🤷
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 9 ай бұрын
They didn't. They just increased coal burning in the upper midwest. 🙃 Anti human environmentalists are agaisnt ALL industrial civilization including nuclar and hydroelectricity, not just coal, gas, and oil.
@David-rx5eo
@David-rx5eo 8 ай бұрын
Wood stoves, and fireplaces are being banned.
@leegoddard2618
@leegoddard2618 8 ай бұрын
@@David-rx5eo They gotta catch me. I mean literally.
@hjvdb6829
@hjvdb6829 8 ай бұрын
Well done
@user-us5gt1ug8h
@user-us5gt1ug8h Ай бұрын
It requires consistent and phenomenal efforts by the stakeholders of the river to actually make the powers that be to give in to agree for such a colossal removal of these structures which actually are metaphors for their huge egos since these infrastructure projects are representative of their supposed legacies and consider them as their alteregos
@N911GT2
@N911GT2 11 ай бұрын
You can just call Russia they will do it cheaper and faster...
@snedzy1506
@snedzy1506 10 ай бұрын
Lol my first thought
@dom8286
@dom8286 9 ай бұрын
Our energy prices aren't high enough. Let's raise them higher!
@lennep1887
@lennep1887 2 ай бұрын
3:40 Interesting to see a clip of Hamburg there 😅
@user-md9yv7jx2c
@user-md9yv7jx2c 9 ай бұрын
Was it the Glenn Canyon Dam on the Colorado that they shut down recently?
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