What have I DONE? Gibson Les Paul Relic | The Hardware & Setup

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Crimson Custom Guitars

Crimson Custom Guitars

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Welcome to Crimson Guitars kzfaq.info... and Ben's home workshop. In this video, Ben is using various abrasives and acids to age the chrome hardware of this US Gibson Les Paul.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:28 Taking off the pick-ups
5:12 Will vinegar help age the pick-up covers? That would be a no!
6:28 Aging pick-ups No.2 - using mechanical means.
11:16 Using Ferrous Chloride
15:07 Putting it all back together
17:17 Fret crown and polish using Crimson's new crowning file duo: www.crimsonguitars.com/collec...
21:16 Crimson Fretboard Cleaner and Restorative clean the fretboard
21:50 Re-stringing
23:03 Crimson Yellow Stunning Stain ages the Scratchplate
26:50 Soundcheck
28:04 Conclusion
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@ROLEPLAYA64
@ROLEPLAYA64 Жыл бұрын
Surely for full authenticity you need to snap the headstock off? :)
@malcolmhouse9547
@malcolmhouse9547 Жыл бұрын
I just had a thought in years to come it gets sold a few times and someone re lacquers it and puts new chrome hardwear on it
@chrisggoodwin777
@chrisggoodwin777 Жыл бұрын
Ben: "you don't need to watch me standing at the buffing wheel" - next shot: *stands at buffing wheel* 😂
@tonymurphy2624
@tonymurphy2624 Жыл бұрын
Welp, this guitar has finally removed my ambivalence about relicking, and brought me down firmly on the side of really against.
@ericl6460
@ericl6460 Жыл бұрын
I like it on old single-color strats where you can see the wood underneath after the relic job. Les Pauls, not so much
@benburnett8109
@benburnett8109 Жыл бұрын
This was not relicing. This was cutting on a Gibson with a Razor Blade. There are other real relicing videos out there. This was very poorly done.
@tonymurphy2624
@tonymurphy2624 Жыл бұрын
@@benburnett8109 Meh. It wouldn't have been my approach, especially with the checking. Barn door over subtlety, but in Bun's defence, the subtle approach to checking is a) not brilliant for video and b) quite hit and miss without careful control. The closest to proper age-checking you can easily achieve is enforced cold-checking, and cold-checking tends to be linearly extended. In order get properly distributed checking reflecting seasonal micro-changes in dimension that results in age-checking, you need very controlled but disparate heat control, usually involving slowly warming the whole body and then cold-shocking the lacquer in very small regions, to keep the checking from extending as far as the cold-checking you get from loading out of a hot club into a cold transit van in the Alps in the middle of winter. It's part of why I feel like artificial aging is a bit daft, now I've had time to analyse it. Sure, the look of the thing, but just play your guitar shitloads and haul it around to gigs and it'll look like that. Building in wear never looks like wear, it looks like flummery. Call me old-fashioned, but a guitar is a tool. It's nice that it looks pretty, and there's an aesthetic to wear, but that's really in the history. I remember every scratch on my luthier-built main instrument. I know where each of them came from, and they do indeed tell the entire story of the instrument, but that's because it has a history of real wear in the real world. Have to say, I first encountered the notion of artificially aging a guitar on this very channel, and I was largely ambivalent. I wouldn't take a pall-peen hammer to my new shiny snap on toolkit. Why the hell would I do it to a precision instrument? Nope. I don't get it. This is just flummery, and really quite stupid. Build a guitar to look old, sure (I just built a P-bass to look like a church pew that's had thousands of arses across it). Dick around with a built guitar that really didn't need any dicking around? Nope, ya lost me. There's no good reason to do any of this other than poor thinking.
@graham6229
@graham6229 Жыл бұрын
As above, I don't get it at all.
@briw4647
@briw4647 Жыл бұрын
I'm all for genuine wear, I hate relic guitars
@robertfletcher4947
@robertfletcher4947 Жыл бұрын
If I win it, any chance of a full re-fin before it's sent to me?
@Jaryth14
@Jaryth14 Жыл бұрын
I think the main reason the checking looks wrong is because the finish is so glossy. Usually by the time that sort of checking happens, the lustre of the finish is a bit more dulled.
@rv6205
@rv6205 Жыл бұрын
like a VOS finish
@musicmnw1982
@musicmnw1982 Жыл бұрын
Today I woke up to this video. My mom passed away 16 years ago today. It's been tough but I'm getting by just fine. She was the one person early in my life that supported my love of making music. My love of Les Pauls came from that. Two years ago, I finally bought an Epiphone LP and everything but the neck and pickups lived up to my expectations. My eyes have turn toward Gibson in hopes the neck is more C and less D shaped. Thank you for giving me happy thoughts to go to work with today.
@m4d_mark_xtr3me79
@m4d_mark_xtr3me79 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, when I do scratch plates I use a scotch pad for the matte effect and when I go for the yellowing effect you can stain it, you can use coffee or you can just leave it in the sun/ uv. I also use heat as in a torch sometimes if I really want to age things like plastics or metals. Make sure you age the screws and where the strap button goes...
@svendiagraham
@svendiagraham Жыл бұрын
Coffee! Soak your scratch plates and other plastic accessories in some coffee for a couple hours, quick rinse, and a light wipe away will create a really nice subtle yellow and allow a gritty surface to scratch with a pick to create contours.
@svendiagraham
@svendiagraham Жыл бұрын
I think you guys have been spammed?
@THEItchybruddah
@THEItchybruddah Жыл бұрын
Learned a lot and the comments have some VERY useful tips.
@ernieb3626
@ernieb3626 Жыл бұрын
I really like it my friend. Thanks so much for being brave enough to let us watch your first attempt. I love it and hope to win it. Keep up the good work and chasing those dreams brother. Gods Blessing to you.
@howarddickson8727
@howarddickson8727 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Ben... I do think the scratch finish is just a tad too defined, but I get the finish you're after. I'd probably knock back the scratches a bit with car scratch remover, and then use a cloth dipped in cold tea to dull the reflected scratch edges. I'd also use cold tea to age the plastic, as I think yours looks a bit too yellow rather than an aged colour. Personal tastes, I know. Good effort though. I'd also add a bit of wear to the upper bout? Personally, I'd be trying all this out on a cheapo Squier or something, rather than a nice Les Paul, until I got my technique down. 😎👍🏻
@Lisa-rg4fp
@Lisa-rg4fp Жыл бұрын
Hmmmm.. think the type of tea would make a difference? Earl Grey.. Ceylon,.. Lapsang.. PGTips?? LOL!
@howarddickson8727
@howarddickson8727 Жыл бұрын
@@Lisa-rg4fp 🤔🤪
@rauschguitars
@rauschguitars Жыл бұрын
The comments are already heated enough to keep your workshop warm all winter! 🤣
@way2foxy69
@way2foxy69 Жыл бұрын
Practice makes perfect! I'd love to see this again.
@Lamster66
@Lamster66 Жыл бұрын
Intrestingly Ben I used to work at a place where we tested electronics for cleanliness of process. Part of this involved putting circuit boards into climatic chambers at 85C and 85% humidity and basically leaving the things in there for several weeks. When they came out they looked like they were decades old .All the Greases and Salts grow destroying plating and crack up any plastic. I'd imagine you could age a guitar in a couple of weeks like that. I would think that what comes out would look like something someone had left it in a damp garage for 20-30 years
@HardRockWorkshop
@HardRockWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Would some of that black coloured car wax dull the marks on the headstock and make it look more natural ? I used some red on a recent build and it worked a treat.
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician
@PerpetuallyTiredMusician Жыл бұрын
I don't know about how cold it is over there on the isles in the winter. Here in Scandinavia you just leave your guitar in its case in the boot one night in the winter months and bring it in into a warm kitchen in the morning and open the case and voilà insta nitrocellulose crackle. :) That's how I by accident "effed up" my fender highway one many years ago now. I have no idea if you could do the same with a cold storage room or something. Might be worth to experiment with (temp diffs and so on). Peace and ty as always.
@wiltshiredoug9959
@wiltshiredoug9959 Жыл бұрын
Same happened to my MiM Strat
@chipcrawford1342
@chipcrawford1342 Жыл бұрын
my guess is the people that pay top dollar for relics, buy jeans with holes in the knees, then never wear them.
@islanderwinder
@islanderwinder Жыл бұрын
I've give using the strong acids & now only use White Vinegar in conjunction with scuffing the parts to remove the plating off the edges & area of parts like you have done . i find Vinegar works better . i would remove that container of open acid solution from you shop if you don't want lovely tools to rust . good job overall Ben ... love you show 🙂🙂🙂
@gavinleyfield3195
@gavinleyfield3195 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you for having a go. The scalpel work was ok, if a little heavy. But to get the rest you really have to use nickel plated hardware, the chrome stuff just won’t age like an old burst. The plastics can be bought aged (so can pickup covers and hardware and it’s probably worth the money) I would have also rubbed down the body as it still looks too shiny against all the checking. But yeah, entertaining!
@tested211
@tested211 Жыл бұрын
You really need muriatic acid to age chrome properly but it's horrible stuff.
@chrislawson7106
@chrislawson7106 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t reliced a guitar but I’ve built a lot of furniture that people wanted to look old and reclaimed. One of my favorite things to do is thin out either black or brown stain and brush it all over and wipe it off immediately. It gets in the cracks and grain to give an aged dirty look. Doing that over the finish cracks you added might help bring them out a bit and make them look a little more aged. Or perhaps the yellow stain like you did on the pick guard might add a bit of subtle yellowing to the finish.
@peachmelba1000
@peachmelba1000 Жыл бұрын
Re: the pick guard, a brown tone stain works better to slightly darken the plastic. Further Iwould also say that you should have significantly dirtied up and then cleaned the entire instrument. It still looks new.
@JayKughan
@JayKughan Жыл бұрын
In line with accentuating the buckle rash and all on the back, I think you should also scratch up the pickguard a bit to mimmic pick scratches.
@williammccready7278
@williammccready7278 6 ай бұрын
Hello Ben, for whatever reason I've only recently came across your videos and channel, great stuff mate! So my question, I had thought about an attempt such as yours with relicing hardware on my Les Paul through abrasives such as sandpaper, wheels ect, but ultimately made a purchase, in which I believe caustics were used, but the parts were authentic Gibson or whatever preferred vendor that I chose and I was satisfied with their results. I'm doing the same thing to another identical LP Traditional, this time I also changed out the plastics as well. So back to the question, I'm going your route with abrasives on the chromed hardware and tuners, but this time I'm adding a Bigsby B7 and Vibramate, of which I'll need to relic as well. I could probably buy a new one that has been reliced, but it's easily within my level of aptitude to do myself. I'm probably going to go with a roller bridge as well as I'm not overly concerned about not using an ABR-1, and didn't expect any tuning issues if I had chosen to go that route, but I thought that I would go the fail safe mode with a Tone Pros System II roller bridge. Obviously much more surface area on my B7 and it's components, and after looking at dozens of examples in all of the lovely books containing period examples of naturally aged Bigsbys, I'm not sure what route to go, maybe a combination of both abrasives and caustics. The Bigsbys always have a grey haze to their aging patina that isn't on a tuning peg, bridge or tailpiece, obviously because of the metallurgy and actually being handled much more than the static components mounted to the body. What are your thoughts on the Bigsby B7 relicing, it should look pretty awesome when finished! Thanks Ben!
@Cadmonkey
@Cadmonkey Жыл бұрын
Age the pickup rings to match the scratch plate?
@hakancarlsson2881
@hakancarlsson2881 Жыл бұрын
👍 I'd really like an episode 3 on this. It's the small and less obvious things that would really sell it. Some ideas: Taking the shine off the top, getting "dirt" in the cracks/make them look less fresh cut, heavy wear on where the arm would be like you did on the back, bang up the headstock edges and heavier wear in places where the player touch the guitar a lot... Also some general random nicks and dings. A funny thing would be to make it look like it had a headstock repair... 😁
@MithatKonar
@MithatKonar Жыл бұрын
I've successfully yellowed overly white plastic pickup covers by exposing them to a few weeks of direct sunlight. Maybe not an option in England and at this time of year, but maybe a UV lamp would work (and be more controllable).
@rocklover7437
@rocklover7437 Жыл бұрын
If the finish is cellulose you could dull the scalpel work down by first cleaning it with alcohol and then using a aerosol of blending thinners from a automotive paint spray supplier .It's used for blending and melting in a paint blend edge to the original finish . The harsh scalpel cuts would soften depending how wet you sprayed it . The aged damage on a guitar is down to cellulose not being UV light stable .We stopped using cellulose to paint cars because it was not UV stable .A silver clear coated finish eventually turned a very pale gold . Try simply using a UV lamp to age the finish .
@VERBANDTREM
@VERBANDTREM Жыл бұрын
Needs a historic truss rod cover and a few little dings around the edge of the headstock. maybe some dark contrasting material in the lacquer cracks. lovely work you did with the scalpel!
@noeltedd4298
@noeltedd4298 Жыл бұрын
id love to see this guitar again , in my house ,fingers crossed for the raffle
@jeffblackwell5493
@jeffblackwell5493 Жыл бұрын
What was that square box that was like a wrench used on the toggle switch?
@jefftucker201
@jefftucker201 Жыл бұрын
Great job Sir! the only thing I would have done extra would be to scuff up the sides and top of the headstock edges.
@zykotec
@zykotec Жыл бұрын
Ok, you asked for our opinions, and as much as I like what you have done so far, I have to say, I would make it look more worn myself. I have a 5 year old acoustic guitar with more wear on the fretboard (it's a cheap guitar, so probably not the most durable) , so some sanding here and there to make it not just look aged , but properly worn, like where your picking arm moves across the body, and on back of the neck. And add more scratches on the pickguard. As I have only watched the video I'm obviously not sure how the guitar feels, but my dad used to have an old semi-acoustic where the lacquer looked almost exactly like this guitar looks after you aged it, but you couldn't feel any of the cracks, like it had cracked from the inside out (I don't know much about guitar finishes or aging techniques tbh, but I do love putting fake patina and rust on plastic scale models).
@Pauld62
@Pauld62 Жыл бұрын
wow those files SOUNDED high quality. Ill be getting some of those for sureeeeeeeee
@harrisonandrew
@harrisonandrew Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that future generations will think it as crazy to relic a guitar was we do looking back at some of the horrendous mods inflicted on guitars in the 1970’s. Each to his own and it’s only an opinion.
@jukeboxheros7021
@jukeboxheros7021 Жыл бұрын
off topic, I purchased a 79 strat in Morocco Red color from a lady today. it belonged to her brother since new. when I opened the case it was laying on some bubble wrap and yes the bubble wrap pattern transformed onto the lacquer, bummer. is the repairable? or am I screwed!
@SweetTGuitars
@SweetTGuitars Жыл бұрын
Is that a Hakko Soldering station? I actually like the sound of unpotted pickups too but I wouldn't want to play a live gig with them! Especially if I was playing really loud through a big amp. In the studio though, all is well. Nice guitar Ben. I love the unstained or close to natural top! I wonder if wiping the pickup down with isopropyl alcohol or wax and grease remover before applying the Ferric chloride would help with the pooling? I'm just curious because of the buffing compound left on the wheel of the buffer. I really need to try this.
@scottmartinezguitarandbass
@scottmartinezguitarandbass Жыл бұрын
3:39 and this is why I love you Mr. Ben Crowe! You're a madman.
@stealthracer
@stealthracer Жыл бұрын
I need to do this the other way round! I have an Epi LP where someone has scratched the top with a scalpel, how do I get rid of it?
@johnyoung2828
@johnyoung2828 Жыл бұрын
The pickup ring on my main guitar has a spot that looks melted from my finger pivoting/resting on it
@davidtomsett
@davidtomsett Жыл бұрын
Ben, is there any form of accelerated ageing process that can be performed, instead of checking and the like?
@daytripper7879
@daytripper7879 Жыл бұрын
UV light on the scratch guard. Maybe a grey or black wax rub and buff to highlight the check marks to simulate dirt
@nalukeko
@nalukeko Жыл бұрын
19:43 despite the heavy play wear, the binding and nibs are still pretty square... I round those over pretty heavily with fine grit sanding paper. makes for an extremely comfortable worn feel.
@garethtravis1786
@garethtravis1786 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben what brand/size buffing wheel do you use for buffing frets ?
@JaimeCerrada
@JaimeCerrada Жыл бұрын
Thank you again for your videos Ben! In my humble opinion (I'm not a master luthier, even a luthier), by relicing a guitar is more than do some scratches here and there. It's an art. If you want to achieve a great relicing job I think you must study how to do ir properly first. How it would relict if it had been used for real, in which places and how, etc. Most of the 90% of the relicing jobs looks artificial, very artificial or no sense jobs... even the Murph's Lab Gibsons. To me, don't get me wrong please, this two videos are about how to scratch and ding a guitar not about how to propoerly relic a guitar (the ghost of the PRS relic video is knocking at my door). But hey this is fine too. This is your guitar and if you are happy with your relicing job, this is what it counts. Cheers!!
@adammono1839
@adammono1839 Жыл бұрын
Finishing crowning file? YESSSSSS!!!! I've been using my fret end dressing file so too much haha
@tho2ea
@tho2ea Жыл бұрын
Pretty reasonable relicing! It's looking well loved! It won't actually fool anybody but I truly don't see how it would offend ANYONE either if they're being perfectly honest. I like to see a little dishing out of the frets etc. Maybe you could put some of the hardware in a rock tumbler if that hasn't been considered. The coolness factor hasn't been harmed at all, everybody loves the old Pauls but there is a limited supply of old guitars naturally, I say do what you like to a new guitar, it's an homage as watch collectors are fond of saying and not a fake - it's important to remember you're not trying to pass it off to someone as old (therefore truly rare) and jacking the sale price or anything so who cares? No regrets! In fact the opposite. I just tend to leave some conspicuous dirt on them and call it good just my opinion but this is exceptionally tasteful, I like the description tasty!
@jimbecker5675
@jimbecker5675 Жыл бұрын
I'm fine with the color on the scratch plate...suggest you do the pickup surrounds to match.
@ianthomson9363
@ianthomson9363 Жыл бұрын
While being slightly more against than for artificial aging, I do like the look of the guitar- the pickups look just right to me. Just one criticism though- the finish on the wood looks too shiny and new- perhaps a little light treatment with a few grades of fine sandpaper? Or even fret rubbers- that might work!
@kennethdon3619
@kennethdon3619 Жыл бұрын
he did use fret rubbers in the first part, to dull the finish a bit, and work some dirt into the cracks, having white edges does make them a bit glaring
@HatchA_Makes...
@HatchA_Makes... Жыл бұрын
Did you de-grease the hardware before applying the ferric chloride?
@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.
@ghost.of.aleksz.salad. Жыл бұрын
FOR AGING METAL I SLAP IT WITH A NECKLACE CHAIN and other things to gouge it for realistic random extra details ( including a knife)
@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.
@ghost.of.aleksz.salad. Жыл бұрын
it actually dents the metal instead of scratch
@CrimsonCustomGuitars
@CrimsonCustomGuitars Жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is a good technique.
@vince8081
@vince8081 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to obtain a less bright finish ?
@ksharpe10
@ksharpe10 Жыл бұрын
And no one mentioned the Burn Marks on the headstock next to the Nut for that Clapton authenticity??
@ptrisonic
@ptrisonic Жыл бұрын
Is the finish on Les Paul Customs in "Ebony" the same as "'Bursts" (apart from the obvious)? It feels different to me... Best, Pete.
@bukwok
@bukwok Жыл бұрын
i found out use old used sand paper, old like almost smooth, all the sand and grip almost gone, especially that sandpaper used on metal, then use those old sandpaper sand the finish, it make finish checking even better especially for razorblade moth, that make all the checking line randomly show in different angle, sorry for my poor english, not sure how to describe, very good relic finish checking, not supposed show all the checking line in one angle, i think is about the blade cutting angle,the blade how you hold and every cut in different angle, when the light hit on finish, because the refraction, that make the checking line show in difference angle , it make finish checking even better especially for razorblade moth finish checking, that make all the checking line random show in different angle, i think that little detail make whole thing even convince,again sorry for my poor english, english not my first language, so hard to describe in english.
@ernieb3626
@ernieb3626 Жыл бұрын
my friend you crack me up lol "its not plugged in is it" lol. Great video thanks for sharring this. I did want to know how and if the covers could be removed. very easy. Cheers from Michigan
@Drust49
@Drust49 Ай бұрын
to create micro scratches on my pieces I use a stone wash finish (this is used a lot in cutlery) and frankly the result is not bad after a little polishing
@THEDARKILLERS46
@THEDARKILLERS46 2 күн бұрын
The body contour wear looks like a burning city, great job as always !
@markb3434
@markb3434 Жыл бұрын
Ben , who's guitar would you like to work on to make it either look better or play better?
@thebones
@thebones Жыл бұрын
I like the finish of the work bench, that would look great on the guitar, is it oak?
@Beizeiten78
@Beizeiten78 Жыл бұрын
For nickel and chrome to work well with white vinegar, you have to break the plating first; I use a Dremel with a fine polishing wheel first, then vape in vinegar for a day or so. For plastics, I soak them for 30 mins in a mixture of hot water, coffee (slight amount) and turmeric.
@briandixon2700
@briandixon2700 Жыл бұрын
I think it looks fabulous. I would love to have seen you drop a cigarette end onto the body, the old cherry bomb! But I guess thats easy to say when it's not my guitar 😊
@mattomon1045
@mattomon1045 Жыл бұрын
the finish looks great
@joelemaster7306
@joelemaster7306 Жыл бұрын
does anyone know if the factory satin nitro finishes check with age?
@thahacksaw
@thahacksaw Жыл бұрын
Relic fan here. I'm loving all of this. Ignore the naysayers. I will admit, those scalpel lines are looking a little thick and deep. One thing I noticed while using the hair dryer and compressed air method was, the cracks sort of fill themselves back in when you go over it with the heat from the hair dryer. You might be able to run a little bit of heat along those scalpel lines to give them a little more of a natural look/feel. Also, now that you have long thick starting points, it might be worth using a can of compressed air to see if you can get some mild splitting of the finish between the lines you've already created. Just some food for thought.
@CorSmit
@CorSmit Жыл бұрын
Just my two cents, as an amateur guitar player and enthusiast - You mentioned everything that happens during the process “adds to the story of the guitar”. To me, that story reads as follows; “My owner didn’t want to put in the time naturally aging their instrument through years of honest, hard work”. Nevertheless, good effort. Not a fan of the checking, love the aged hardware!
@wazzap500
@wazzap500 Жыл бұрын
ye. such bullshit
@spikeafrican8797
@spikeafrican8797 Жыл бұрын
Rilicing guitars is an art in its own right... much like forging classic art. Those who are masters at the forgeries are rarely masters at the creation of them in the first place, and vice versa. When I see old vintage guitars and relics, I mostly just think about how I could restore them! Just the way my aging brain works. Great little series, thx.
@SenatorTacos
@SenatorTacos Жыл бұрын
I took 20 air duster cans to my Les paul. It is wicked. It came with VOS so, I just had to check it!
@EatYourOwnBacon
@EatYourOwnBacon Жыл бұрын
The only thing i would suggest is heating the lacquer and using a 6000 grit micromesh to take some of the luster away from the finish. the checking looks nice but on a nice shiny guitar it doesnt really fit. Also rub some nasty into the checking to accentuate them after its dulled...
@PG-ex3kl
@PG-ex3kl Жыл бұрын
Relicing is fine when it’s your own instrument or possession, other peoples opinions don’t matter but they are welcome to voice them. It doesn’t mean that they are right or that we have to listen to them. This works both ways. Enjoy yourself Ben!
@PG-ex3kl
@PG-ex3kl Жыл бұрын
Scammer?
@WagnerWarner
@WagnerWarner Жыл бұрын
@@PG-ex3kl yes
@wls64
@wls64 9 ай бұрын
Paper/cardboard is great for finishing an edge. I use Brown cardboard instead of a leather strop for finishing my knife edges
@paulmartin8100
@paulmartin8100 Жыл бұрын
I like the scalpel work. Do you think it would enhance it if you made the overall finish a bit more satin? I’m wondering if that would be more complimentary and enhance the overall reliced look. It looks a bit too glossy.
@peterschut63
@peterschut63 Жыл бұрын
Ben, I love your videos. You are a true craftsman. I never understood why you would make a guitar look old. It is old and it shows, or it is new. I like new. And when I buy a second hand one it should look new, when I sell a guitar I bought new it still looks new, or mint. Nevertheless there is a big market for fake old.
@lukeeeopoleable
@lukeeeopoleable Жыл бұрын
Put some shoe polish or dark briwax in the checking. Will make it look less obvious on the headstock but more aged on the body.
@macgibbon
@macgibbon Жыл бұрын
There were instances where N stood for new, but I think that was in 2013 or so, but if they still did that, Les Paul New Standard Plus (for plus top) maybe.
@ritualchaos7182
@ritualchaos7182 Жыл бұрын
A little splodge of washing up liquid in the ferric would break the surface tension. Don't know if it would bugger up the ferric.
@johnking3863
@johnking3863 Жыл бұрын
Relicing anything but especially Guitars puts me in mind of John and Sylvia, protagonists from Zen and the Art of Motorcycle maintenance. Robert Persig. Well worth a read.
@BBGuitars
@BBGuitars Жыл бұрын
Id say do a top wrap and aggressively agitate the strings behind the bridge than set it back up. A 59 would definitely had been top wrapped at some point of its life. Also using the wrong size screw driver to adjust the tailpiece posts for that chewed out look would be the go.
@Aelmal
@Aelmal Жыл бұрын
Ive used your vintage amber /brown spirit stains to age plastic to good effect
@thegodless2904
@thegodless2904 Жыл бұрын
You should absolutely rotate the neck pickup 180 degrees a la the Green/Moore/Hammet “Green Meanie” Les Paul.
@sjlefebvre
@sjlefebvre Жыл бұрын
If this will be one of the last to be auctioned off, what's the harm in the process taking more time?
@combiuk
@combiuk 4 ай бұрын
did you know heat can distroy the magnetic properties of the pickup magnets?
@markmilligan8773
@markmilligan8773 Жыл бұрын
I have loved this relic series but the faux cracking still looks like it's been scratched. Over time there would be dirt in there and it wouldn't be so rough. It needs a faux dirt wash and a light polish to un-square the cracks
@Bloosee
@Bloosee Жыл бұрын
My biggest issue with it, far to shiny. Old guitars seem to have a natural satin finish from years of wear. My guitar teacher had a 1964 strat he'd play during lessons, had all the checking and chunks of finish missing and it was super dull looking. There was also no finish left on the back of the neck, nothing but dirt and grime.
@jeffmarshall9521
@jeffmarshall9521 Жыл бұрын
Looks great buddy
@jessieward2964
@jessieward2964 Жыл бұрын
I have entered a raffle for the first time in my life, your work is so inspiring!! I can't believe we have an opportunity to win this beauty. Thanks so much guys and good luck to all! 😁🤘🫱🫰
@pympin87
@pympin87 Жыл бұрын
i think i would just put the hardware in a bucket of bolts and screws and shook it around to get that random scratch pattern on them ... that and maybe buff down the finish a lil after cutting in the checking ... and maybe rub some oil and grease into the finish and try to clean it back off
@johnwalsh9507
@johnwalsh9507 Жыл бұрын
agree with the comments regarding shoe polish/ dark wax rubbed into the finish. buff that off and it should make the checking less harsh i have used some Monty's Montyspresso on an aged partscaster body to good effect
@johnwalsh9507
@johnwalsh9507 Жыл бұрын
regarding the scratch plate - chucking it is an option, never urt Gary Moore's tone? and grime up the underside of the knobs; and maybe mismatch them? there are some decent videos on the 8bomb YT channel regarding aging, etc kzfaq.info for those who dislike artificial aging, nothing wrong with an opinion either way. just remember - only the Sith deal in absolutes
@johnrau2265
@johnrau2265 Жыл бұрын
🎼🎵"Don't go out into the rain you're gonna melt, Sugar. . . "🎶 Yes, I sang that at the video. 😎
@wonicles
@wonicles Жыл бұрын
Plastics-I have had great success in darkening and aging with a mix of paste shoe polish, old English furniture oil, and heavy brewed coffee if you have the luxury of baking them in direct sunlight or a UV light after treatment, it works better. Caution, practice makes perfect with this one. For “post scalpel” or cracking of the finish, I have also used grease, and grime, with some shoe polish again, and an old t shirt. Just buff the heck out of it. It adds a touch of age, takes some of the gloss off too. Might work nice for you on the headstock. maybe a bit beyond what you were doing for here. I have found that nickel ages better with that vinegar method compared to the chrome, but I do like what you did there.
@malcolmhouse9547
@malcolmhouse9547 Жыл бұрын
Did you age the jack socket
@nalukeko
@nalukeko Жыл бұрын
5:45 yea it doesn't work on Chrome. It's great on Nickel though. I heat up the vinegar for more steam.
@danielegger6460
@danielegger6460 Жыл бұрын
Bring the scratch plate close to a heavy smoker and leave it under artificial sun for a few days to get an authentic "smoker yellow" tint and used look.
@benduncan1412
@benduncan1412 Жыл бұрын
I firmly believe that you should do whatever you want to your guitars. It's okay to take a hobby knife to your finish.
@CrimsonCustomGuitars
@CrimsonCustomGuitars Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben, I agree.. though watching a rig rundown with Joe Bonamassa and he had another musician dremel their name into his 50's strat.. that hurt :( I suppose there are levels?
@mattf9096
@mattf9096 Жыл бұрын
I think the checking looks pretty convincing overall considering how it was done and the pickup covers came out cool. My issue is really more with what you left out than what you did. There aren't any incidental marks that imply years of playing... Did you turn too quick and bang the headstock on something? Did you lean it up against the front of your amp and have it fall over? Did you miss the input jack a bunch over the years and scrape up the plate? Did someone do a repair on the fly and have to use a non-matching screw here and there? Did you rub off the gold paint on the switch plate over the years? etc. etc. IMO those little details really sell the idea that it was someone's workhorse for years.
@tested211
@tested211 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the checking tends to propagate from those weakened points, so it really helps to have them there to work from. I would also suggest rubbing some muck into the body whilst the checking is fresh (it should partially heal over time if the finish is nitro)
@tamarmolerick3814
@tamarmolerick3814 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. At the moment the guitar does not look like a coherent whole. Perhaps knocking back the shine would help tie it all together. How about faking a neck break repair?
@rayfabris2512
@rayfabris2512 Жыл бұрын
Cool to watch you do it because I'm not touching mine I do enough on accident or drinking then take a ambien while playing = oops it knocks you out without a warning I didn't break the headstock I got lucky lesson learned
@CrimsonCustomGuitars
@CrimsonCustomGuitars Жыл бұрын
real life relicing is just as cool!
@davidzemaitaitis9128
@davidzemaitaitis9128 Жыл бұрын
Ben when you want to age plastic parts that are a light or bright color soak them in good old fashioned coffee pick up rings knobs switch tips pick guards etc soak them in coffee for about 24 hours
@thenovello-pugh
@thenovello-pugh Жыл бұрын
Dulling down the lacquer would improve it. I have a heavily worn 1988 LP Custom and the lacquer has lost all its shine - even milky looking in places.
@jason8463
@jason8463 Жыл бұрын
Love your work thanks for the insight but sorry personly I am not into relicing I love a guitar that has been played and loved but to do the same look on purpose always looks fake to me and I always ask why the look of a guitar is no where near as important as how it plays and sounds P.S love that honer kingsway it is so junky I really love it's vibe
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