I'm a product manager in the fintech banking sector and and my job is just as hectic she Chloe has explained.

​@@tshidirusson5100 Fintech is brutal. A friend of mine had a fintech start-up and I helped him for a while and it was incredibly intense - much more so than Silicon Valley companies.

It's also a big company experience. Smaller companies are a bit more flexible and require other skills she didn't mention. I'm not trying to take away from Chloe at all, btw.

As a PM in biotech, I confirm! PM in biotech is much much MUCH more sales oriented. Hell, one of my individual KPI’s is $X million sales for a new product in its first year, this requires building a business plan that includes a sales strategy and marketing campaign all from scratch and done by PM. Sometimes lowkey unreasonable (but we love it)

I will also have to agree with this. Been in the industry at much larger organizations for 10 years and it definitely is dependent on the company and industry. Not taking away from Chloe, but there is definitely more into it than what's on the video

Haha I can only endure the pain so long tho 😅 don’t know how long this era of life will last but I’m glad to be documenting it!! Thank u for appreciating all the little editing details!! So many hours goes into those ❤❤

@@chloeshihYou’re absolutely correct. Many hours go into preparing this. Sometimes techies don’t understand that. When I worked as a business analyst, once upon a time a Delivery Manager told me it shouldn’t take long to update the text of a user story. But, I have to tell him that updating text may not take time, but arriving at the text is what needs time as we need to understand detailed requirements from the client, ask probing questions etc . I told him that techie guys will simply say that they are developing what’s been told, but I need to ensure I ask the right questions to arrive at complete set of requirements. Product management is an important role, the folks that ridicule it are not humble and must be ignored. They’ll retire one day from private sector jobs without pension. Will then see what they’ll do. Doing business needs humility, being a Product Manager is like running a mini-startup in a big Company. That needs humility, customer empathy. Arrogance will not help anyone becoming an entrepreneur. So, if those techies want to just work and retire and then do nothing, they can survive somehow but if they want to start their own business, they have to give up arrogance.

ah yeah or they look down on the job bc it's just a bunch of meaningless work. the amount of hate comments i get from salty tech people about how meaningless this role is is astounding!

@@chloeshihreally? Tech folks say meaningless stuff? Those must not be good techies, I mean they wouldn’t have humility and customer empathy. Such arrogant techies can make meaningless comments. I mean a question to them is what will they code for if there is no product and business case in first place? They can’t sit at home and just code on their machine. In the end, monetization matters, they need money to pay rent/mortgage and other expenses. So, if the company where they are working doesn’t pay, will they continue there? Now, for the company to pay, there needs to be a product or service from where they earn. I understand developers will say it’s not a big deal to think ideas but it’s tough to code and deploy. My question to them is: yeah, it’s not easy to code, but will you take responsibility for failure of a product or low sales etc? If the answer is “Yes”, then they can criticize but if the answer is “No”, clearly they can’t lead. Because, with leadership comes accountability. Developers sometime like to hide behind excuses, it seems. They need to understand that it’s a team work. TEAM stands for Together everyone achieves more. Business isn’t run by demonizing other functions, why aren’t so many developers able to set up their own business? That’s because they are still living in a world where it’s like: i did my piece and now I don’t care about the larger picture. Only people who care about larger picture can become entrepreneurs. I want to let developers know: You won’t get pension in private sector jobs, so if you want some additional income, you’ve to think Business and then use your skills accordingly. Yes, they can use their grip on programming or other technologies and make something, but remember one thing always: Only humble techies become entrepreneurs, and not every techie becomes that. So, it’s a large pool of people and not everyone can become an entrepreneur because it takes a lot to be one. It needs humility, which a lot of them don’t have. So, they give up. Moreover, if they start somehow, they’ll come in the same boat as a Product Manager because then they’ll have to get the work done by techies and just like they were arrogant, they can face arrogant techies in their startup also if they manage to start one. But, normally I’ve seen: Arrogant techies won’t be able to start any business. They’ll have to retire one day without pension, not sure what they’ll do then.

AWW VICTORIAA! 💕💕💕💕

Aww thank you! And haha yes it’s always a shit show and we’re just sifting thru it as gracefully as possible 😅 glad a lot of this resonated with you as a professional!

omg yeah! that first video was SOO different from how i shoot my videos now. thank you for sticking around from the beginning, hillsidess!!! always love seeing your comments!!

Aww wow from India!! I’m glad this has been helpful! It seems like the PM role is very popular in India too!

aww thank you!! comments like these help me keep going ~ making videos on top of doing a full time job is super challenging!!

Awww yasss!! There’s definitely a LOT that goes into every decision. It sounds like you and your PM have a great working relationship!

aww thank you!! means a lot that this has the blessing of another PM

Satire, right?..

of course you say that, looking at your pic you are asian as well. Probably as unfunny and annoying as her. You two fit well together

aww thank you haila!! i'm really glad you like it! i'm slowly starting to find my storytellng voice through youtube~~

I’m glad you enjoyed!! I think my storytelling has improved a lot since my videos from last year haha

this is VERY true!! 💯💯

Aw thank you! Haha I rarely do dedicated PM videos these days so wanted to make sure this one was done well!

thank you nancy!

haha yasss road to 100k!!! IG is getting there closely, but ofc KZfaq may take longer. Also glad you and your husband are here haha!! love the duo viewing ~

xDDD 101% is the correct amount haha

Hm I’ll have to think about how to best explain this. It’s very collaborative for sure. This might have to be a collab video with an engineering manager or tech lead!

Perhaps by reviewing backlog items and prioritization 🎉

My favorite thing to do is to catch up with friends over drinks and fruits!! Vibe successfully captured! And oh boy I was hoping things would chill out at some point 😬😬

Agreed!!

For my parent coworkers, the fact that you have children forces you to ruthlessly prioritize far better than the ones without kids haha. I’m hopeful that it’ll work out well!!

haha o god i am not an organized person, but i can try! i gotta think about this!

@@chloeshih I'm also not an organized person, but my job is requires me to be🙃For someone who struggles to stay organized, it would great if you could share your tips and tricks!

THANKS SARAH!! :D I tried to keep it clean and minimalist ~~ didn't want too much going on!!

haha thanks! anything in particular you're hoping for? there's just not that many topics that i think people are interested in haha

Thank you Naomi!! 💕

aww i'm so glad to hear!! i hope you're doing okay though!! D:

@@chloeshih as okay as you can be while being a product manager 😂

haha thank you!!

Thank u 💕💕

thank u friend

Wooo new sub!! I also do regular vlogs of my adulting life ~~

haha yes i definitely think money is a huge factor in this all, which is very realistic. i have an adulting Q&A that I did 2 videos back about how I manage work life balance! that has the fuller explanation of how i operate. re: taking advantage of those spoils - WELLLL in my last video i'm doing so heavyyyy furniture shopping. it is a lil out of control🤣

Wow Chloe, you are so knowledgeable, kind and beautiful. Wish I could marry you. ❤

aw thank you!! also, i hope you're doing ok haha

Omg Philippines!! That’s dope!! Glad you found this video very relatable :) glad I got the right experience down!

gotcha - we go from the PRD to the project task management tool - whether that's jira or asana. we also link to the tickets, but the process has varied tremendously by team so i don't have anything standard to say haha

Do u really think that coding looks easier than PM? If that was the case, why do we have 1000s of youtube channels just for cracking coding interviews? Why we don’t have the same for PM roles ?

we actually do have the same for PM roles. PM interviews are gruelling and very challenging. there’s thousands of these videos, and even entire books on how to crack the interview. take a quick search and find out for yourself.

⁠@@MohanRaj-vp1zt Yes coding is easier than Product Management. As a developer I’ve shipped multiple products over 25 years for various companies including Microsoft. I served in an architectural role on the Azure product team participating in the launch of v1 of the platform in 2009. Today I’m a Principal Technical Product Manager at AWS. Where are the 1000’s of videos for Product Management? Dispersed among the thousands of videos for business strategy, systems design, statistical analysis, value proposition design, research techniques, UX design and usability, time management, productivity hacks, economics, graphic design, psychology and more. Often times I write code on the weekends to give my brain a break so it can focus on one logical thing. It’s like taking my brain for a walk or doing a crossword puzzle.

lmaoooo well UX designers don't have it easy either, but i do think in another world i would have chosen that path instead!

@@chloeshih True! But it's a grind I'm already accustomed to lol. It sounds like you do an awesome job as PM. Keep up the great work and thanks for the educational video!

for sure dom!! glad you enjoyed this vid!

Thank u CJ!! Super different from the first time I made this video!! Came a long way haha

consumer is definitely incredibly competitive and not chill x_x but it is super fulfilling and fun to know that your friends and family use your products!! sometimes i think to myself that i should just go to B2B to live a more chill life o_o

omg yeah we just gotta swallow our pride and deal with it. lmao at the getting out of the job! i mean i think it's possible to make it more balanced. it's just always a balancing act. i think this job suits my personality a lot (at least for now).