Cheers for the video Brian. Do you think at all that you really needed to start and go through your math degree program before you would truly understand what area you would enjoy most? Also, Was your interest in Math as degree from a place of general enjoyment of math, or the fact that you were good at math, or perhaps a bit of both? Thanks again.

Cathy O'Neill nails it when she speaks to the fact that math majors in most universities are not set up to allow students to develop the stupid skills of proofs simply because it is used as a weeding out mechanism. Indeed there is so much opportunity for more students to get into math and develop much needed new ideas in math. I like how some folks in the comments mentioned that some univ are developing more robust courses for freshman. It's really a wonderful field even with those abelians crawling around. :)

I'm very glad to hear math helped you out! Have a great day.

Did you have any intern experience coding because I am finding it difficult to even get an interview?

Pure math or applied? Or statistics?

Cameron Dudley Sorry I did not see your comment earlier. I hope you had more luck lately I got lucky after answering an ad for math majors and got a job as an "equation writer", believe it or not. My degree did help me to land jobs that required a degree in something. Remember you can't be lucky if you don't try.

115 Stig I was more on applied in college, but now wish I had known more about what pure math had to offer. Statistics did help me land one job, but it was more that I had a degree in something for jobs that required a degree.

I know I'm four years late (before I realized I would major in math), but I'd definitely rather write essays instead of memorizing ways to solve problems.

Compared to some higher level courses, you're right :)

Its easy to find this out after like sophmore year

@@alfredtovar6451 right

@@alfredtovar6451 Only if you're a Math major. Most other people remain blissfully ignorant. Hell, I've seen plenty who insist Calculus II must be the hardest Math course because it's a "weed out" class or something, and they justify it by claiming their friends thought Calc III and IV were easier. Maybe they were, but they're all pretty damn easy compared to Analysis and Abstract Algebra.

That's for a math major. If you are majoring in a non steem field then you won't even habe to take pre calculus.

It’s a whole new world once you get into the major. Thanks for watching and sharing. Have a great day!

I didn’t sign up for Real Analysis 1/2 and Abstract Algebra 1/2! I wanted easy computation math said every math major LOL Complex Analysis and Advanced Linear Algebra and officially a math major :D

@@dre8160 Interesting. Recent math graduate here and Real Analysis 1/2 & Abstract Algebra 1/2 are both required. It completely demolished me! I had nightmares on Ring Homomorphisms. With all this said, I am on the job hunt and it is not going so well.

Ronnie Sokha kinda jobs are you applying to and what city? I’m about to graduate and look for data analyst jobs in Chicago.! Hoping it goes well for me my brother seemed to get a fairly decent job with a finance degree, so I am hoping it goes better for me.

@@dre8160 I've applied to jobs such as Data Science, Data Analyst, Financial Analyst, etc. Mostly any analyst position that is available. I've also applied for many positions in the finance sector just to see if I would get any type of response. All of this to no avail, so far. I live in Seattle, WA so the tech industry is growing rapidly. With all this said, if you aren't offered a 6 figure salary in Seattle, you are most likely living at least an hour or so away, which comes with the crappy traffic/commute. In addition, I've also searched for jobs that are related to CS degrees but obviously, they would want you to know some form of programming. At the University of WA, you are only required to take intro courses to Java Programming; that is, basic syntax and intro to algorithms. Therefore, I also lack advanced programming skills needed for Software Developer positions. I must add, though, that I've been offered teaching positions at a couple of high schools in the area, but one cannot afford to live off of a high school teaching salary. With all this said, I've decided to just take it upon myself to get a better grasp on Java programming via KZfaq. I've just graduated early June so I just need to be patient! Congratulations on the graduation, by the way! Good luck.

Glad you thought so. Thanks for watching and have a great day!

Come to the dark side :)

BriTheMathGuy I’m tempted, convince me Math Darth Vader

@Atlantic Pacific I'm a BS double major in mathematics and psychology. I suggest you check these links out because you sound very uneducated... www.mathpsych.org/ www.journals.elsevier.com/journal-of-mathematical-psychology

I was a psych major once. I'm sending in my application for applied math in a couple weeks.

idktriple6 dang calm down it’s a joke

yep

My advice.. Stay away from Computer Science and Computer Engineering (Unstable career). If you like math? Bachelor in Math Education OR Mathematics Major: Probability and Statistics Emphasis. And try to get a second major, BS in Economics

Hey, what did you end up choosing for your major, if you've chosen yet?

@@orinthiamartin1189 physics! so far I’ve loved it :)

@@arantxapardue2375 That's really cool! :]

Did you enjoy it?

Absolutely! Thanks for watching!

*understanding how almost everything works.

Unfortunately some apply this definition to physics

@@pianoforte17xx48 Mathematics is about every and any universe, physics is what happens when you specify it to a specific universe (ours or some other)

@@user-dr9gs6wh1k exactly math is the code and physics is the program

Sounds like that’s probably a better system where you’re from. I think part of the issue in the States is that many students start university not knowing what they want to major in. Regardless of major, the first 2 years include a lot of general education courses and let students sort of figure out what they want to do. Perhaps the curriculum would be different if this weren’t the case. Thanks for sharing!

In some places there is a lightweight "introduction to mathematics" course where you get an overview of some highlights in set theory, algebra (groups..), analysis/calculus - basically you get to know some fundamental mathematical concepts and work with them a bit at a low difficulty level. It's an opportunity for people to learn what mathetmatics is about if they're considering learning it. I took it a while back in the open university and enjoyed it very much.

I haven't looked into the math courses, but a lot of the science courses are divided. In my state, some of them are separated into two categories, "For Science Majors" and "For Non-Science Majors". Pretty self explanatory, the non-science majors are less in depth than the science major classes.

This exists in America (California).

I wouldnt say ALL American universities follow a strict guideline. My uni in New York gave MAT which was designed for pure math major. OR you could take AMS which were the courses for those majoring in applied math or required to take the courses.

I’m sure you will figure everything out. Best of luck and thanks for watching!

Hey Mikaela! How did it go?

Really appreciate it! Have a great day.

I believe that dedication, hard work, and the willingness to struggle are the requirements to be a math major. Natural talent helps, but work always beats talent. Moreover being definite in your purpose and plan is a huge advantage. If you know what you want and are willing to put in the time and effort, nothing can stop you. I wish you the best of luck.

This was the first thing I read waking up and it might sound lame but it made me tear up. I've been looking for motivation lately to continue. It's not the motivation I lack, but the self-doubt that keeps me back. I've been researching A LOT and I'm glad I stumbled onto your "what I wish I knew before becoming a math major" vid because I plan on getting more into the "rigorous" maths now at least to have an understanding of what I'm getting into. Even though I'm slightly older (28), I don't plan on letting anything get in my way of achieving this. Thank you so much.

@@daisyg509 you have what it takes to study Math or any other subjects. Wish you all the luck.

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't want to work

@Dayzee Gee, that's exactly my story 😭 I honestly love maths. It's just that am also a bit scared of how difficult it might be. I am happy there's someone who feels how I am feeling. Now I know that the feeling is mutual

I want to be a high school math teacher too and I’m going into my freshman year of college tomorrow. Any tips?

@@christinasoter7679 be ready to work hard. Know that it’s gonna get tough at times but that’s just part of the process. Remember, it’ll all be worth it in the end though. I wish you much luck!

@@mocubez7846 thank you!

@@christinasoter7679 get a secondary math education degree, you won’t take the same classes as math majors

Allison Gaster RIP i hated programming but im glad my school required programming for a math degree saved my life and opened my eyes to a whole new world

Thanks for this! I am a mathematics education major so I appreciate this comment I’ll take some programming classes.

Programming (and arguably math as well) is far FAR better learned on your own. Grab a good book, apply yourself, and you will be where you want in 6 months. Promise.

If you think you'll get a lot of money by working for someone, you are dead wrong.

@@Wabbelpaddel if you have a strong skill set you can surely make a lot of money, but of course there will always be a limit. Also with an average-above average salary one - if willing - can easily get into the investing world, work a little extra in terms of research, etc.. and make their money work for them. so apart from the technical skills, financial literacy plays a key role here :)

It's a different ride. I hope it went well for you!

Aww I appreciate. Honestly, your advice really helped me and opened my eye.

Many of the areas of math I’ve looked at did not feel natural for a very long time. Sticking with it is the key! Best of luck to you and thanks for watching!

It is :)

What happens if you theoretically travel faster than the speed of light

Hope you like writers cramp :-)

@@wojak6793 You theoretically get a speeding ticket from God

If you could travel faster than light then you would be able to see the past. Example: You travel out of space at a distance of 5M light years away in less than 1 second. Then you will see the earth( if you could) 5M years ago because the light from that time era.

@Nox Eath Geometry is an amazing way to start with proofs! But, it can get frustrating because algebra and calculus proofs sometimes are very different from geometry proofs.

Penske Logistics as a logistics engineer lots of operation research.

Financial analysts, actuarial roles

What job did you ended up getting?

Hello there. Thanks for watching :)

That poor homophobic country?

Me too haha

@@sarsenssarcasm3073 lol it's not homophobic, it's called straight thinking instead of deviating to shame.

Thanks very much for sharing and have a great day!

What major did you switch to

It's a wild ride :) Thanks very much for watching!

Congrats!!

Just curious , did y have a job since after?

You are most welcome

I believe a math major is , forgive for my lack of politeness, useless alone. Unfortunately not many people grasp what is like to be a mathemathician and while I do believe that pure mathemathics is applicable to the workface not many people undersntand what skills you have. For that I recommend taking programming classes or a finance degree just to back up your resumé a little and try to minimize the fact that you are a mathemathician. Take my advice with a gram of salt though, I'm only starting collegue and for reasons beyond my control I could not study enter a math major but that's what I've found on my research in job opportunities for mathemathicians.

May I ask why you quit your PhD in pure math?

@@RedBar3D sure. I didn't gain any useful knowledge for industry. And by time I lost my interest in my research area and, for me, it felt like a waste of time. So I quitted to start a job in industry

I believe I’ve seen some of those videos! Thanks for watching and have a wonderful day!

Lol the reason of why I didn’t major in math, I love it, but I prefer application over the theory

Thanks very much for watching and sharing. I think taking such a proof based class will give you clarify on your preferences. Best of luck with everything!

Absolutely! Many different majors require the calculus courses so they are a very nice asset to have either way. (You might need a course in differential equations for physics) I don’t want to scare anyone from being a math major since it’s certainly attainable! I usually suggest talking to professors in the subjects you’re interested in for more ideas. Thanks very much for watching and best of luck!

@@BriTheMathGuy thank you and good luck with your masters if you haven't already obtained it. The world needs more math majors like you and hopefully I can get my bachelor's too, that's more than enough for me. But as you said, it'll get very difficult.

@@Primitive_Code How did things pan out for you, @ApplesAndOranges?

It depends on the context!

That's where it gets juicy

😆

Good luck!

@@BriTheMathGuy can statistician become a data analyst or data scientist

That sounds difficult, but good luck! Try talking to more people. Maybe think about the roots of your passion for each, and what you would like to actually do past university. Also, where would you feel contented and have no regrets. I'm an incoming freshman and I already passed in several universities with different programs but I don't really know what I would like to study and become. They were all science courses but know I'm also looking into the math field. Anyway, I hope it works out for you!! :)

Hi Tiera, How did it go? Did you end up going to medical school?

This was a very interesting comment, thank you for it. I cannot agree more that the typical path through math education is so deeply flawed as to be actively harmful to one's love and learning of the subject.

What sort of jobs were you able to get with your math degree? Were you happy doing them? I just finished my Bachelor's in mathematics, but I'm starting to have second thoughts on whether or not to do my master's in mathematics, precisely because it basically exclusively sets you up for academy, and I'm not sure that's what I want to pursue.

@@RedBar3D Just after I graduated in 1969 the computer industry started to take off. During most of my time up to the last year in university, a "computer" was to me a human who made calculations. I very soon found out there was a job called "programming" which I thought would be really cool. I also thought astrophysics would be cool. So I got some interviews for jobs in programming and I think one for Jodrell Bank. The people interviewing for the computer jobs were also beginners and gave everyone a test, which I realized later was to see how good you would be in assembler coding. This was never my strong point, although I eventually became quite good at debugging in machine code. For the Jodrell Bank job they quizzed me on what I had studied. I volunteered Maxwell's Equations and General Relativity since I thought they could be relevant. But I had not realized that after I had taken my finals, I had forgotten 95% of what I had learned. Needless to say, I didn't get any of these jobs. So I had to use my backup plan which was Insurance, specifically the pension business. Some colleagues had joined an Assurance company as trainee actuaries, and with a maths degree, you had credits for the first part of the exams. I joined them for what was then a high salary for a university leaver. My main job was to work out the return of contributions for people leaving a pension plan and, slightly more interestingly, some retirement benefits for a few who had reached that age. I was bored to death and after a two-year detour to the south coast of England, I converted to a career as a computer software engineer for embedded systems first in London and then in Switzerland, where I stayed. I specialized in data communication protocols, so my job was quite technical and satisfying. If you are not sure what exactly you want to do, there are some tests available to determine your suitability for certain jobs. As well as the obvious technical ability requirements, a computer software specialist needs the ability to concentrate for long periods and also welcomes the opportunity for that kind of job. So being slightly introverted, like myself, is ideal. Most computer software engineers have a built-in BS detector. Someone once remarked that managing Software engineers was like trying to herd cats. You will have a great deal of freedom, so if you like being told exactly what to do, like in the regular army, this career path is probably not for you. I think if you take a masters you will still have the same options as for a BSc with the added possibility of doing a PhD if you are good enough. But if you don't enter a Ph.D. program I am not sure if you would have more options. I would suggest you get more advice from your contemporaries. My first job experience is 50 years old, so I am sure there must be more opportunities for maths graduates these days. Good luck with your endeavors, whatever you decide.

@@ksmyth999 Thank you for sharing, Kevin. I've been asking my friends who have graduated with a masters and will continue to do so. Many are PhD students, but some work at for example banks as programmers and at pharmaceutical companies as statisticians. Others took a year of pedagogy and became teachers.

If you are thinking about leaving medical school do it now! I wish I had walked an ended up hatng my career. I too would have picked math... Good luck to you!

I am in a opposite situation....

CCBC math program is good. That in combination with JHU’s online math courses can give you the knowledge of a junior (in honors classes). This is what I plan to do because I share your same love of math

They are hard but they are fun. There you can see how much language damages logical perception. Do yourself a favour and learn formal mathematical logic.

I meant take a look at pure mathematics textbooks. You would probably want to take a look at intro books in real analysts, abstract algebra, or some linear algebra. Ideally you would look at some books in whichever area you are planning to focus on. Perhaps ask some of your math professors for some recommendations since they would be the ones teaching the courses. Many might even lend you a copy of a book if they see you’re interested. I hope that helps, best of luck!

Hey, of course one could start not being good at math as most people do begin with; even in different ages. One should always keep courage to ask why and not give up until their relentless search on the answer to that. Even if you end up hours on asking yourself about a theorem and why it works and don't come up with a justification, don't despair. Be glad for your detours on the way. The feeling of when you actually come up with something by yourself (and it will happen eventually) is quite addictive. Practicing also makes one to grow confident in engaging with such problems. It's funny how the confidence in mathematics doesn't bloom to be about you, but rather about arguments that hold true outside of you, in which if you simply hold on to, you WILL find the answer. I would suggest you to start with a little of Formal Logic, then Set Theory, and then Algebra. Before Algebra you could try Number Theory and Counting. Quite fun things. And of course after that comes analysis (the study of functions and relations and limits and integrals). I remember I started to ask the "why" in my 2nd year of high school. Before that I was a complete mess in all my studies. When I did not stop until I made sure this statement/equation MUST hold true and there's absolutely no other way it could..."exist" in, I started to be good in not only math, but the natural sciences as well. Now I'm hoping to be accepted in Pure Mathematics even if I still have a lot to learn. In fact, that's precisely why I'm aiming to learn it. Because if I was already good at it, it wouldn't have been so much fun learning😊 I hope this helps, at all

@@Heleyrine Such powerful words! I thank you😊

It really all depends on what you’d like to study and what you mean by deep concepts. If you mean knowing all the mechanics behind why things work and the underlying ideas, then you might want to look into pure mathematics. (Analysis, abstract algebra, topology are the main ones)

It isn’t introductory for most people on the planet, but if you’re doing a math major it’s definitely introductory. In fact I feel like it’s less than introductory… something like discrete math or analysis might be introductory

Dr Vivy Lol I go to UTM... in Canada.

Learn how to program. That's what I'm planning to do or take a finance course or some certification.

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How it turned out?

@@Candidato_Fuvest2024 Eventually I threw a coin and made a decision this way. It turned out to be math in the end as I thought originally😅 Are you thinking about your future career?

@@user-pj9uj8rm9p yes, I love studying math but my family is worried about “What will you do with a math major?”. I am trying to convince them that I will be a docent in an university after I graduate, but they answer: “everything can change in 4 years! Since the course is one of the most difficult things that mankind ever created “ .And to complete the picture my parents bring an example of a friend of them that is a physician major and can do nothing with his course besides giving classes online to small and not well known universities.Sorry for talking so much, I really don’t have a lot of people to talk to about this, glad you made your decision happen )

You know, everyone here tell me the same " aaa, what will you do with it?!..'' and blah bla.. In reallity I think these people don't know enough about what opportumities are there for people with the math major. For instance, you can get a master in cryptology, machine learning or mathematical modelling with differential equations. There are an enormous amount of options with this degree. I heard that it's a bit more complicated if you end up studying only pure math, but even then I know people who work as programmers or smth similar. I am gonna aim at applied math so I will see how it goes. But the trick is not to listen to people who don't really have a clear idea about what they are talking about😃 Just go for it if you like it :)

@@user-pj9uj8rm9p The problem is : I really like to code and I love studying math, more than coding to be honest, so my family wants me to take the easy way out : do computer science, I am a diligent student with enough knowledge to submit to highly evaluated courses like engineering and law in normal state universities, so I have 2 choices: apply to computer science in a normal state university or apply to “the best university in Latin America“ which I have the potential to ,if I choose math (because nobody likes it 💀). I never really thought about doing applied math, because I don’t really care about the applications of what I am studying, perhaps I am young and ingenious and I still don’t know what words like “abstraction” or “without application” really means. I am inclined to do computer science (so I will have the support of my family and won’t have to work or anything else while doing the course, just study), but I can’t stop thinking what if I do math…